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| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Nobody: 3:24pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Some truth being said here. God bless the writer richly in Jesus' name. jiggaz: |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by pelepeleb: 3:37pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turns away from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does (sinners as mentioned by the first presenter), shall he live? All his righteousness that he has done shall not be remembered: in his trespass that he has trespassed, and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die. I hope every one will be able to answer the question by he or her self from above verse Ezekiel 18:24. No unclean ( not clean inning by water or oil or sand etc) shall enter heaven as we were told in Revelation 21:27 (And there shall in no wise enter into it (it here means heaven) any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.) so a believer that die in sin is not in Christ ( may God help us) and he that is not in Christ can not enter heaven and we have two places after this life, heaven and hell. Note: No prayer after death. either by the individual or those that are life prayed on behalf of the dead. the season of the one that is dead is over. sorry for the presenter is trying to dodge (not saying some fact). |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by colp2015: 4:00pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:The death of Jesus Christ put an end to the first human creation headed by Adam. Implications: The path is clear for anyone who believes in Christ to know, approach, and relate to God. Also, the believer can recognize, reject, and resist ungodliness which hitherto could not be resisted. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 5:12pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Ostrogoth:lf you believe in him, you commit yourself to live by his teachings. That is what it means to believe in him. Why do you call me lord, lord and not do what l say? |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(op): 5:15pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
gevnet:Amen... |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 5:15pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Ostrogoth:l have nothing against John 3v16, and there is nothing in john 3v16 that contradicts what l'm saying. Like you rightly said the gospel of the kingdom is included in John 3v16 but john 3v16 itself is not the summary of the gospel like many Christians believe today, rather you have to take all 4 gospels as a whole package. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 5:20pm On Dec 22, 2019*. Modified: 5:55pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Ostrogoth:The teachings of jesus are for those who want to be his disciples as well as all those who are hoping for the kingdom of God on earth, it wasn't just for those who were under the law. The ability to forgive your enemies is in every one who wants to, and the spirit of christ is the power behind the teachings of christ which are the universal laws of God inbuilt in every one and accessible to anyone who hungers and thirst after righteousness. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 5:22pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Ostrogoth:l agree. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Demzlent(m): 6:49pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Many people antagonizing the op does not understand his write up When you become born again by accepting Jesus, the nature of God that makes you righteous comes into you. But the flesh contends with this nature, Galatians 5:16 So the flesh must be subdued by walking in the Spirit |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Blackpearlous(f): 8:02pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:Because that's the foolish thing God did, spoke about his son coming and said that's his requirement nothing more believe in his son and you will have life, kinda silly when you think of it logically but since God said that's just what he wants that it's more than enough for him, fine by me |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 8:25pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Blackpearlous:Except that that's not just what God said he wants. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by wacuc0: 8:27pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
You people buying this idea should go and repent. If you are in Christ there is no room for any SIN whatsoever. If you do you are down going to HELL. No two ways to that. What the Bible and teaching of Christ is telling us is you should live the life HE lived. Do not in any way or any circumstance commit any : lie, cheat, fornicate, kill etc. unstoppable51: |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by wacuc0: 8:34pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Thanks for this. Let them be busy committing sin and say they are believers. HELL awaits for them all. No sinner shall enter the kingdom of GOD. pelepeleb: |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Blackpearlous(f): 8:44pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:what did he say he wants |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 8:51pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Blackpearlous:He said you should listen to his son. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Blackpearlous(f): 8:55pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:what did the son say that we should listen to |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 9:18pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Blackpearlous:1) That the kingdom of God is a reality on earth already in our midst and we must begin to live by its principles. 2) That he jesus has established this kingdom by his blood. And from that time on something has happened in the earth and this understanding must determine how we live our lives in this world. Because the so called crowns of gold which men fight for in this world in a game of thrones are nothing but perishable crown of thorns in the eyes of God because the only true leadership is in service. Mark 10v45 The son of man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many. This is true might and kingship in the eyes of God. 3)That the sermon on the mount in matthew 5 should be taken seriously if you want to build your house upon a rock and not sand. 4)That his parables about the kingdom of God are true. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by tunde4top(m): 9:33pm On Dec 22, 2019*. Modified: 11:24pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
wacuc0:What the op explained is the true definition of the Gospel of Jesus. Salvation and righteousness can only come after believing in the Gospel of Jesus. It will never come by works because no man has ever done it that way including Abraham and all the prophets. Who are you to earn righteousness by works? Romans 4: (King James Version) 1. What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2. For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. What did Abraham believe?. He believed a message that symbolises the message of the Gospel of Christ that we preach today. That is why we are called the sons of Abraham. The criteria used for Abraham to earn righteousness is what we enjoy in Christ today. Genesis 15: 5. And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6. And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Righteousness can never come by works. Galatian 2: [16] Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. [21] I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Romans 3: [21] But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets 22] Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 28] Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 10: [4] For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. ]6] But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above ![]() Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 4: [5] But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. [6] Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, [7] Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. [8] Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. Philippians 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: I pray that the eyes of your understanding will be enlightened and believe the true gospel of Jesus in the undiluted form. Jesus is lord...... Remain blessed!!!! |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Blackpearlous(f): 9:38pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:The principles of the kingdom yes we must live by it because we are of the kingdom first. To enter the kingdom you must be of faith in his son. Yes Yes by his blood Building on sand and not rock is believing in him. His parables of the kingdom is that the kingdom is valuable and you should listen to him.. I try |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 9:43pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Blackpearlous:lol nice one ![]() |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Nobody: 3:05am On Dec 23, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:That is a divine spiritual exercise that took place on Gods order, so you can't see it. Just believe by faith that its an automatic thing that has been programmed by the Hevenlies to occur at the death of Jesus or you want to search out how it works? This not science man. It is not like electric bulb where you can explain the science behind how light gets generated to the bulb to lit it up. This is totally the opposite of science and that is why scientists too are against or dont believe so many things about God, His existence and the things he created. Same ish you're having as you are coming at it with a scientific approach. Relax your mind and just believe. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Nobody: 3:19am On Dec 23, 2019 |
jiggaz:Im really blessed by this piece. A lot of Christians need to see this piece to change their mindset cos most are still living in bondage and have not started walking in the liberty where Christ has made us free. Imagin some Christians will say, (addressing fellow Christians) if you die while doing the wrong thing by mistake ah....youll not make heaven... And I begin to wonder if what Jesus did on the Cross of Calvary is not total or absolute which forced me to ask a pastor and Sunday school teacher, Sir, is salvation not absolute and they said it is. So I said, then what's all this talk about Christians not making heaven? And they were like... sister, errmm because of our time, "errrmm..its too deep, its not something we can discuss now. "its time for service.".... I just smiled.. Well I've always known the truth and it has made me free. Plus this article has further strengthened my belief. I pray that God opens our eyes of understanding to better serve and Worship him. Praise God. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(op): 7:19am On Dec 23, 2019 |
Jewessgratitude:Amen!! Thank you my dear... I am happy that you know the truth... |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 9:14am On Dec 23, 2019 |
Jewessgratitude:l don't think that's how it works, you can't just believe what you don't understand except you don't truly believe it. The reason l don't believe it is that l don't think that's the correct understanding of the bible. The bible does not say because jesus died therefore you automatically have the righteous nature and all you have to do is just believe this and accept this sacrifice. l understand you get this mostly from your reading of the epistles of paul, but l don't think even paul means this. The cross is an inspiration for us to take up our own cross and follow jesus to the father, l would give you a song that clearly brings out what the cross means in my view and in my understanding of the new testament. When I survey the wondrous cross On which the Prince of glory died, My richest gain I count but loss, And pour contempt on all my pride. O the Wonderful cross, bids me come and die, that l may find to truly live. See from His head, His hands, His feet, Sorrow and love flow mingled down! Did e’er such love and sorrow meet, Or thorns compose so rich a crown? Were the whole realm of nature mine, That were a present far too small; Love so amazing, so divine, Demands my soul, my life, my all. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Nobody: 10:02am On Dec 23, 2019 |
Hismasterpiece:i am still yet to understand how the death of Jesus can actually be called a sacrifice when he knew he was going to resurrect after three days. to my understanding sacrificing means doing away with something valuable often with no expectation of getting it back |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by lucky4west: 10:23am On Dec 23, 2019 |
what an interesting write up...reading thru the comments i have seen how justice has been done by others particularly Ochibuogu5(a master stroke ) in responding to your assertions....anybody who die in sin cannot inherit the kingdom of God take it or leave it...once saved always saved is not a true gospel....he that committed sin is of the devil...a lot of Christians are in hell today because of such half baked gospel, there is no repentance in the grave so if a believer die in sin where will they repent again to inherit the kingdom of God?...it is thoughts like this that gave birth to false doctrines like purgatory, no hell etc...please if you are reading this and sincerely want to make heaven endeavor to live a holy life confess and forsake all sins known and unknown, avoid willful sin and keep company of heavenly conscious friends...don't delude urself that there is a second chance after here, trust me once ur eyes are closed in death its the beginning of eternity either in heaven or hell...the choice is yours! |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Nobody: 10:59am On Dec 23, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:Who can search out the deep secret things of God? You can't understand the ways of God because he works in mysterious ways. If you try to search out the ways of God with your physical senses, youll get confused and lost. Yours is to believe, that is your part in the salvation process. Its based on your believe (whether you understand how it works or not) that you'll actually be saved otherwise you might just be operating outside Grace. Was the hymn written by Jesus? Was it not written by men? Prolly someone who has same perception as you. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Mryacks: 10:59am On Dec 23, 2019 |
jiggaz:God bless you.. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by DonXavi(m): 11:14am On Dec 23, 2019 |
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| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(op): 11:20am On Dec 23, 2019 |
Mryacks:Thanks bro... |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 11:50am On Dec 23, 2019 |
Jewessgratitude:so to you blind belief is the main thing? jesus did not teach blind belief. Faith is proven by actions not blind belief in doctrines. The cross is a call for us to take up our own cross and follow jesus, that is the faith jesus in the gospels requires from us. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Hismasterpiece(m): 6:17pm On Dec 23, 2019 |
Leonardemma1:You have a little understanding of His Sacrifice. Back then people sacrificed lambs and goats to be made right with God, for Him to forgive their sins. Those animals were mortal, and once they died their sacrifice only has power until the person sins again. They could only cover a specific number of people at a time. But Jesus, being God, was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. He is immortal, and so His Sacrifice covers more people and is everlasting unlike the former. So, because of Jesus's sacrifice, people are made right with God forever, forgiven of their sins continuously, and declared rrighteous and justified by Him. By Love God made all those things available, and it an be yours if you receive it by faith. |
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