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Acehart:
I suffered. I suffer daily. But I earn about three million naira a year with incentives and I have a nice car and more. For many years I had nothing, zero. (At one point I taught in a nursery and primary school). But those things I have now don’t complete me. I don’t count another man’s money and I’ll advise you to do the same because the issue of looking at images is the strategy of Satan to take your gaze from godliness and contentment.

When you read the later verses of Romans 8, you would see that God never promised us an easy life of comfort, not even safety from our enemies or a hiding place from persecution. God has promised that whatever we face in life, we will overcome them by his meeting every need of ours. If we suffer, God gives us the ability to rejoice even when our needs takes time to come to fruition.

I am sure those GOs suffered to. You are only seeing their “today”. Have you seen their yesterdays? Whatever they are doing now which is not pleasing to you, is not for you to jump into conclusion; it is God that judges every man.

Happy Holidays

englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.

2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.

3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.

4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome

midnighter:
Lol oh gosh! Excuse me, did he mention the fact that we are being run by a bunch of numbskulls and imperialist puppets before he started wailing about churches and prayers?

He clearly said "If theres any God anywhere, Nigeria would have been a better country by now" which is apportioning the blame to God without mentioning anything related to our own responsibilities apart from prayer. na so we go dey sidon one side dey pray while our country goes even further into the abyss? Which better country? When people cant even stand in a straight line when waiting for an ATM machine mtchew dont make me laugh!

By the way what is religious about Nigeria? In the sense of active faith, organisation and infrastructure? God is a god of order and not open gutters, unkempt policemen and gluttonous politicians so I dont see where He is supposed to come into it when we are busy being stupid and incompetent.

He is even being kind to us right now; do you know the type of serious disasters we are supposed to have experienced by now if not for God? Hm! This thread is becoming very funny o!

ptkoncept:
[color=#990000][/color]you are dying gradually and you dont know....gbabe

englishmart:
I guess I'm beginning to wake up to that reality.

FrLukas:
So you too believe Hollywood? You must be a teenager. I remember as teenagers then, we'd watch Superman and believe he was real.

midnighter:
Lol the thing is sounding extremely funny o, Jesus just came down and told somebody to drive bullion van through the streets of Lagos lmao

janettee:
[s]Hey kiddo, it was a joke!!.

Now run along! .[/s]

Snowale:
Just like I said earlier, many Bible verses are ambiguous, coupled with some modifications, translation errors, many versions, different writters, and many languages. Some Bible version might clearly state the explanation of the ambiguity it want the followers to obey. Eg. By putting Holy spirit in bracket after the comforter.
You gave an explanation which Christains gives. I will say, Just like other prophets, they all said something about the prophet that will rise after them, Jesus never said he was the last, that's why he said the comforter would 'speak of him', meaning the comforter would be a man, All Jesus preaching to his disciples, are not for the disciples alone, but to man generally. It might be the disciples that listened to them, but it isn't for them alone, that's why it's written in the Bible. It's either Jesus doesn't know the exact time the comforter would come or the disciples are in sorrow because the world is about to loose a powerful prophet.

DAVE5:
Hmmnn, enjoyment at other people’s expense, some of those people barely have 3 square meals daily, well make I no speak further before I sin against my spirit


happy holidays

Derrinclay:
Don't get me wrong but,I truelly believe in God,not because i am a Christian but because of the wonders of this world,just imagine how perfect the earth is I.e perfect for life to florish ,if the earth was any closer we would fry, abit father we will freeze this is not even up to 1 percent of the conditions made perfect for life to thrieve ,I don't question the existence of God,my problem really is with "suffering" I have seen a lot of people suffer ,innocent lives perish and the wicked keep enjoying, I mean if God is so Good why does he allow us to suffer

englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.

2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.

3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.

4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome

Mustack:
Am sorry..

MJBOLT:

nobody knows who created or how life started

englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.

2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.

3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.

4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome
Nice to share with us your view on religious beliefs
First I am a religious follower. In this thread, I wish to seek for your favor, time and knowledge to be getting in touch with you so that I, personally can learn from you
It would be with gratitude if this request is been considered.
Regards

PrecisionFx:
I like ur answer.

And ur answer doesn't mean God does not exist.

midnighter:
You are still not getting the point. That the "Fall of the first humans" is seen as a metaphor by some people doesnt negate the fact that human beings are inherently evil. So what is your solution to that evil

How do we atone for the billions of sins that are being committed right now?

MJBOLT:

there are no evidences to support the existence of any god

midnighter:
So you dont believe wrongdoing should be punished?

midnighter:
You are still not getting the point. That the "Fall of the first humans" is seen as a metaphor by some people doesnt negate the fact that human beings are inherently evil. So what is your solution to that evil

How do we atone for the billions of sins that are being committed right now?

Atayis:
have you been baptized by the holy spirit? It is digusting that over the years, you have been honouring God with your mouth, not your heart.
Improve your spiritual life and you will have the encounter of God

Acehart:
Close your eyes against them. Look to Christ. Do you know what you can do to those whom you perceive to be false prophets? Read your Bible and resource from Reformed theologians like a mad man. When you come out like Jeremiah to write, the whole world will catch fire; and they will not know what hit them.

PrecisionFx:
I am not inherently evil.

Acehart:
You seem not to have read the Bible cover-to-cover. It is very glaring right from the first pages of the Bible that Children of God suffer. You should read Psalms 73 to see what we, the children of God, go through when we see the wicked enjoying while we suffer.

From what I insinuated earlier, you read the Christian scriptures sparingly but you sound like you know the word of God page to page (but it has disappointed you).

Suffering achieves two things for the children of God:

1. To expunge the love of sin in us. This is when suffering comes as judgement (discipline).

2. To bring out the nature God made us for. (This is what many call the Gethsemane experience. Gethsemane means Garden of pressing. (There was an oil press factory in that garden)).

The two points seem like the same except that point two makes the Child of God become helpless and makes his total hope to be on God. Our old, unreformed, nature is hostile to God. After becoming saved, that nature still lingers. God uses suffering to remove that nature and leaves us with the pure nature he made us in - the nature of Christ.

cooltola:
The parts that was broken to form earth? How these parts come to existence. Randoms dusts sticking to each other and become a part if I am guessing. And the dust, random protons and electron atoms become dust? Then I ask how to the protons came to existence.