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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by toye440: 6:24pm On Dec 30, 2019
MJBOLT:
a fool says i run from village people yet the fool has no proof,this same fool thinks atheist believe in the devil and claims the devil exists with no evidence to back it up.


What a fool,dont be like this fool.

Woaw ur stupidity is legendary, u must be the best fool on NL.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 6:25pm On Dec 30, 2019
hollowpot15684:


Dear Englishmart,,
Sorry you are disappointed and unhappy because you have not really seen Gods hand in relative to how you expected to see it, God is not unjust and is not moved by any man's emotions and logic. He is a God of principle and one who considers his words first before his name.

Concerning your first reason please read Mathew 24:14 (And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come) to have a brief understanding of this.

On 2nd reason: my advice is to not give yourself to worldly doctrines. Alcohols of today is simply poisonous to the body, I do not think you need any Bible to decide if alcohol is good for you or not, your body and soul will be the judge.

On 3rd reason: God is not a slave you can summon to heal malaria or ulcer for you, there are drugs that do that, those drugs were discovered years ago through some thorough research and divine knowledge. I want you to know that God does not interfere in the affair of men, well maybe there are few exceptions, but that is what it is 'an exception'. God has put the affairs of men in the hands of men and he can't even interfere if he does not find any suitable for man to use. So, stop expecting Him to do what he does not promise you. And again, it is against the law of nature for you to get healed by ways mysterious to your body, most of the time you will need to swallow nutrients or drugs in order to heal up.

On the 4th reason: God built the earth, he placed man on it and gave man the authority to govern the earth. However, man disobeyed and gave some of his authority to Satan and now the devil has almost the same authority as man on earth, and this is why you see havoc been orchestrated by men co-helped by the devil. Even while Jesus Christ was among us, there were killings and there were suffering simply because there is some amount of authority withing the jurisdiction of Satan to have control over some certain things(we invited him anyways ). God is not a magician that will come down and stop war, however he gave his words that whoever believe in his son Jesus Christ will have eternal life, he also gave his word that whoever believe will walk through dangerous places and never get hurt.
- Then about secular people who live extravagantly, I want you to understand that a lot of believers also live extravagant life not because God gave money to them but because they obey the principles guiding money and wealth creation ( i will recommend you go get yourself a book by Pastor Sunday Adelaja title Money don't make you rich) to discover timely money principles that will turn your life around.

Dear Englishmart, i guess you are trying really hard to seek Gods face but let disappointed because you didn't see his face directly, i want you to know that He is there with you and he never leave you even when you stop seeking him (He is a gracious Lord) all he need from you is a continuous effort to seek him, like the one you are currently making. And i want you to also know that you thinking of becoming an atheist makes him to even love you more, do not listen to the distracting noise of this world, do not turn your back on your creator, all he want to see is your face and striving heart.

May God continue to Strengthen, Love you.
thank you very much

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by MJBOLT: 6:27pm On Dec 30, 2019
it's obvious you have exhausted your entire vocabulary,do NL a favour and crawl back to the gutter you came from.

toye440:

Woaw ur stupidity is legendary, u must be the best fool on NL.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by toye440: 6:29pm On Dec 30, 2019
MJBOLT:
a fool says i run from village people yet the fool has no proof,this same fool thinks atheist believe in the devil and claims the devil exists with no evidence to back it up.


What a fool,dont be like this fool.

u and I are gonna be mixing it together, I gat ur time fool
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by MJBOLT: 6:32pm On Dec 30, 2019
i dont mix with gutter rats but feel free to masturbate on my mentions.

mentally deranged asswipe

toye440:
u and I are gonna be mixing it together, I gat ur time fool

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by cooltola(m): 6:39pm On Dec 30, 2019
WebSurfer:


And who told you science have not ?

Science is still developing, there are many unknowns out there that science is catching up to. Carbon dating may not be as accurate as it's assumed , that is why there are constant changes or updates on your science books or scientific publications or journals e.g. carbon dating may not be accurate as once thought of. When the first man flew with the aid of machines, it was through countless trials and errors until someone finally figure it out and that is how science have came to light, through trials and errors or experiments, researches and so on . The physical laws are always constant e.g what goes up must come down which is the law of gravity. But behind those laws is the unknown in which science cannot possible explain. I really dislike how some people use science to dismiss the belief that there is no God and call everyone who do not agree with them stupid. Anyway everyone is entitled to his or her opinions or beliefs.

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 6:40pm On Dec 30, 2019
madridsta007:


Quickly become an Athiest and when you do, ensure you call out Islam and Christianity in equal measure.
And not just Christianity.
Otherwise we will conclude that you are an attention-seeking coward.
I'm calling no one out, mtf.. Who's this?

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by tayrebini: 6:42pm On Dec 30, 2019
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.



I remember when I submitted an application for First bank in 2006. Over eighty thousand people wrote the test. The number was streamlined to 3000 for the interview but just 550 people were eventually employed. Would you say the company did the wrong dropping over 79,450 people? I'm just trying to draw a parallel and I trust you can see that. There are essentially a number of religions in the world, but the foremost are Christianity and Islam in my opinion and that's why I'll focus on them in making my point.
Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God or essentially God manifesting in the flesh. He died to save humanity, resurrected and is coming back to save the church. Islam believes that Jesus is a prophet, believe that it's abominable to even think that God can have a child and don't believe in the redemptive work of Christ. These are contrasting views and one can infer that one of them is right or they are both wrong, but one thing is certain, they both can't be right. A teacher can't have two marking schemes to grade students. He uses just one. Since we're created in his image, we can assume that it's also in God's nature to have a correct answer to the question of "what/who is the way to heaven?". No need to be confused, believe in one and embrace it with everything. If you are wrong with your choice, be ready to go down with it. I believe in Jesus as my Lord and my savior. I believe he's coming back to take me home with him to heaven where there will be nothing that hurts and I am fully persuaded that I am right.


2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.


Understanding the bible is about context. I will say this and you have probably never heard it before from a christian. "The Bible is indeed a difficult book to read". The bible says "The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life". God is the one who inspired people(over 40 authors) to write it and he's the one that can explain the message to anyone who desires to understand it. It's like a student who hates a course or subject; he can't get the best from it no matter how hard they try. I'll also say that many people also abuse doctrines and it confuses a number of people and you happen to be in that group. Two people can say a story but they tell it differently but the message isn't lost. They may choose to different areas of emphasis possibly on people or place but the message will still be the same. Settle this in your mind. "God cannot be confused, therefore the bible cannot be a confusing book"


[b]3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family. [/b]

Of course, God answers prayers but praying does not absolve you of your responsibilities to God, yourself, your community, your family etc. As a matter, prayer, work and faith work together. Where one of these elements is missing, there is misery like the one you are feeling right now. Yes they need to thank God for healing them though they went through surgery. They could have died from the surgery, there could have been complications from the surgery but God preserved them through it. I'll say they are really smart to thank God. You should too cause you could have used those medications and not recover still.

4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome


It's amazing how we recognize the force of good(God) but somehow ignore that there is a force of evil who is the devil. We tell this stories in our movies but we can't seem to wrap our heads in the reality of it's existence. Satan is the god of this world(2 Corinthians 4:4, Matthew 4:8-10). We are just ambassadors. Jesus warned us of perilious times that will come, he warned us that we will suffer temptations and tribulations but he said be of good cheer, I have overcome the world. Satan hates our guts cause he hates God. He can't hurt God, so he attacks believers to get at God but we have the name of Jesus to overcome. However, not all terrible situations we experience are the devil, some are self-inflicted and ignorance. Christianity is not supposed to rob us of comfort and i have seen very good christians who are so rich as I have seen very poor christians who are so bad. God warned Israel but they rejected Jesus and his warnings. The devil raised a maniac(Hitler) to slaughter the jews but because of the covenant, he still saved a remnant. Today, less that 5% of Jews are Christians, they don't believe in Jesus as they didn't believe when he first showed up. they practice Judaism which is another form of religion.

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by toye440: 6:44pm On Dec 30, 2019
MJBOLT:
it's obvious you have exhausted your entire vocabulary,do NL a favour and crawl back to the gutter you came from.

Exhausted, waow sorry schmuck or is the word schnook, am just getting started prick. Someone better call this FOOLS mama cos am about to smoke him out.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Wane2: 6:46pm On Dec 30, 2019
WebSurfer:

This ignorance is how religion passed from our forefathers to us. And will continue that way anyway
I don't know if you're for me or against me, but we should learn to tolerate people's beliefs as long as it is not harmful to others or themselves physically, emotionally, psychologically or in any other way. So religions that practices killing and other forms of violence and discrimination should be stopped, sadly evil and misguided people under the guise of religion carryout despicable acts, making people see these religions as bad.

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by smileyoo: 6:47pm On Dec 30, 2019
WebSurfer:

In your own case, you sunk thinking Religion is real
mr man, i hate debating religion, but i must tell you, that the knowledge of God, is far different from religious knowledge. infact the easiest way to know a little about God, is in the study of nature. e.g can you explain to me how humans acquire conscience, even without any religious doctrine? infact most religions kills conscience of men, than aid it, through wrong indoctrinations, and this accounts for so much beastly characters of humans, these days because wrong religious indoctrination 've succeeded in subduing their conscience.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by toye440: 6:50pm On Dec 30, 2019
MJBOLT:
i dont mix with gutter rats but feel free to masturbate on my mentions.

mentally deranged asswipe

Lol hes feeling the heat, bro stop acting like a pussy and start acting like a dick. I need u Preek to stand up to me. Douche
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Ihedinobi3: 6:50pm On Dec 30, 2019
whitelotus:




The bible that every bible scholar knows that is incomplete and not exactly in chronological order?


You are a dangerous fundamentalist with this belief that the bible is 100 percent true.

If you were born in an isolated tribe in the amazon, you would never be a Christian.

If you were born in Nigeria in the 12th century, you would have been a pagan and would have never heard of christ.



Again I'm supposed to believe you when you say all these things, but something is wrong with my believing the Bible? Why are you a more reliable authority than the Bible?

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Blackicegold(m): 6:51pm On Dec 30, 2019
MJBOLT:
gradually people will wake up and realise religion is a scam and there is no god anywhere.









Bro. How would you say there is no God
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Blackicegold(m): 6:51pm On Dec 30, 2019
MJBOLT:
gradually people will wake up and realise religion is a scam and there is no god anywhere.









Bro. How would you say there is no God
I would love to know your reasons
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Beatswim: 6:57pm On Dec 30, 2019
MJBOLT:
gradually people will wake up and realise religion is a scam and there is no god anywhere.
apostasy..
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by oluwwasheun(m): 6:57pm On Dec 30, 2019
englishmart:
I'm not that jobless, man.

If you're truly seeking salvation ( I mean not deceiving youself with these clear contradictory biblical verses), learn about other religions too.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by am4truth(m): 7:01pm On Dec 30, 2019
englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.


2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.


3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.

4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome



I am a living witness that God is real, and He answers prayers. I can help you friend. Jesus remains the way, truth and life. Don't give up on God.
Send me a pm. I can provide answers to your questions.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Evangkatsoulis: 7:03pm On Dec 30, 2019
englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.


2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.


3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.

4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome


I am an atheist, but these are really stupid reasons for being an atheist.

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 7:05pm On Dec 30, 2019
MiltonFine:
You don't. You just live and let live. A very wise man once wrote "Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever."(Ecclesiastes 1:4)

You don't get it..there's nothing like live and let live here.

Wrongdoing must be punished if we know our God to be a just god.
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by philfearon(m): 7:09pm On Dec 30, 2019
MJBOLT:
gradually people will wake up and realise religion is a scam and there is no god anywhere.
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by whitelotus: 7:14pm On Dec 30, 2019
Ihedinobi3:

Again I'm supposed to believe you when you say all these things, but something is wrong with my believing the Bible? Why are you a more reliable authority than the Bible?

Did you grow up in a cult? You dont even know the history of the bible!



It is not my word against the bible; rather, it is bible scholars vs the bible. It is history vs the bible.

Educate yourself

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 7:23pm On Dec 30, 2019
Obi1kenobi:


There is not a single soul who does not know the pathologies of Nigerians, so these are digressions that are irrelevant to the point you responded to. You yourself are simply pointing out the futility of prayer. Blaming God is not the issue. The issue is that religion is a futile endeavor with no effect on our material circumstances.

Ah, employing a variant of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. To be religious has a clear definition and doesn't mean what you want it to mean. If I profess to be a believer in Christ, I'm a Christian. If I go to church every Sunday, I'm a Christian. It doesn't matter if I dump all my garbage in the gutter or commit every sin in the book - I'm still religious by any definition of being religious. Plenty of cultured people are not religious. Plenty of uncultured savages are religious. It's the way of the world. There is a strong correlation between religiosity and poverty, or religiosity and a comparative lack of education. So yes, those unkempt, dirty, disorderly people you talk of are more likely to be religious than other people.

You are totally unserious hahahaha cheesy that people know the pathologies of Nigeria does not mean that they acknowledge their own responsibility in the matter, which is what that person failed to mention and which is far from irrelevant.

You're just manipulating what the guy wrote to suit your purpose, which can never work. Can prayer be expected to unilaterally cover physical human phenomena or not Must Jesus physically come down and stop you from being a thief before prayers can be seen to work? Don't be insincere, my friend!

The rest of your post is just empty posturing.

A Christian knows what it means to be neat and orderly as part of his religious duty. If he doesn't take this seriously it's a failure on his part and not God's. A country with a stupid attitude towards organisation and working systems can only blame itself and not "unanswered prayer".

Religiosity and poverty is not the point, religiosity and comparative lack of education is not the point, you're totally off point! So the wealthy and well-educated ones, where are they
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Ihedinobi3: 7:24pm On Dec 30, 2019
whitelotus:


Did you grow up in a cult? You dont even know the history of the bible!



It is not my word against the bible; rather, it is bible scholars vs the bible. It is history vs the bible.

Educate yourself
You just keep doing this: making claim after claim after claim without letup. Yet, you think that we Christians shouldn't believe the Bible. How do you know what I know? Have you ever had a conversation with me before today? Have you met me? For your information, I do know the history of the Bible. It is part of my preparation for ministry as a pastor-teacher.

It has been your word all this time. It is still your claim that scholars say something about the Bible. I don't see your proof for this claim. I also wonder if you are claiming that all Bible scholars hold this view.

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Abid2020(m): 7:28pm On Dec 30, 2019
if I you wanna know truly there's God, Go and obtain or download translated Al Qur'an, then open Qur'an chapter 2 Al-Baqarah if you can't take your time to read that because it's very long, open chapter 67 Al-mulk. I'm very sure if you tried this you will believe there is God
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 7:30pm On Dec 30, 2019
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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Splendor27: 7:31pm On Dec 30, 2019
There is nothing lik hell,,,it reincanation...after death,
If u normally have flash back times but u can't figure it out,,.......DAT is means u have live on earth before
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by madridsta007(m): 7:36pm On Dec 30, 2019
englishmart:
I'm calling no one out, mtf.. Who's this?

Hehehe...
Go and read your initial post again.
Step into your Atheism quickly. Not sure why you want to announce it to the world. undecided
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Blakjewelry(m): 7:38pm On Dec 30, 2019
englishmart:
No pun intended, just that I don't find that fascinating as I don't intend to delve into further befuddlement
I am an atheist but I still read every book I can lay my hand after all no knowledge is a waste

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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by whitelotus: 7:39pm On Dec 30, 2019
Ihedinobi3:

You just keep doing this: making claim after claim after claim without letup. Yet, you think that we Christians shouldn't believe the Bible. How do you know what I know? Have you ever had a conversation with me before today? Have you met me? For your information, I do know the history of the Bible. It is part of my preparation for ministry as a pastor-teacher.

It has been your word all this time. It is still your claim that scholars say something about the Bible. I don't see your proof for this claim. I also wonder if you are claiming that all Bible scholars hold this view.


Either you are being dishonest or you are a fanatic.

How can you claim to know history of the bible and then date human existence based on Adam and Rve in the bible?

How can you not know that people live more than 5,000years before Christ?

How can you not know what scholars say about the bible?


For instance, no reputable scholar will defend the enslavement of jews in Egypt because it never happened. The exodus never happened.


You either are dishonest or ignorant
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Daejoyoung: 7:39pm On Dec 30, 2019
Abid2020:
if I you wanna know truly there's God, Go and obtain or download translated Al Qur'an, then open Qur'an chapter 2 Al-Baqarah if you can't take your time to read that because it's very long, open chapter 67 Al-mulk. I'm very sure if you tried this you will believe there is God
ok let's look at Surah 2, the first 7 verses at least.

Quran عe

chapter 2 sura

In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.

1. Alif, Lam, Meem.

2. This is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guide for the righteous.

3. Those who believe in the unseen, and perform the prayers, and give from what We have provided for them.

4. And those who believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you, and are certain of the Hereafter.

5. These are upon guidance from their Lord. These are the successful.

6. As for those who disbelieve—it is the same for them, whether you have warned them, or have not warned them—they do not believe.

7. God has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. They will have a severe torment.

lt doesn't seem to say much so far, it just asserts that those who believe in quran are successful, and for those who don't believe, God has placed a seal in their hearts and they would have a severe torment.
So the question is: Why did Allah place a seal in the heart of this people and yet still wants to punish them in severe torment?
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 7:42pm On Dec 30, 2019
WebSurfer:


If you continue like this, you might never get it right


Anyway, i was once like that. Christian and ignorant
So are you an atheist ?

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