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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 6:50pm On Dec 30, 2019
For Jeremiah a Jewish prophet to write this down in Jeremiah 13 v 23;
23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

This clearly shows the Jews were not dark skinned as people are claiming them to be.


Jeremiah 13 v 23 speaks volumes!
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 6:51pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Simple question, the Turks, Iranians, Armenians, Syrians are also colored (olive skinned) or melanated when compared to Cacausians...

Does this mean these Semitic races are blacks too?

Darkskinned. The people you mention go red not black when faced with famine and deprivation. Only dark skin go black
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 6:54pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:
For Jeremiah a Jewish prophet to write this down in Jeremiah 13 v 23;
23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

This clearly shows the Jews were not dark skinned as people are claiming them to be.


Jeremiah 13 v 23 speaks volumes!

Same Jeremiah says

Jeremiah 14:2
Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are blackunto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

gates mean leaders
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 6:59pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


Darkskinned. The people you mention go red not black when faced with famine and deprivation. Only dark skin go black

Smh, you are inter playing between when one skin gets dark to mean black.


I have always repeated it here even with scientific and observable evidences that the
Semitic races occupying the Middle East are olive skinned. Olive skin tans when exposed to the sun, and pales and seems white when it is deprived of Sunlight.


You see the irony in claiming Semitic races like the Turks, Iranians, Syrians are not blacks but only the Jews are? Hmmm?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:04pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


Same Jeremiah says

Jeremiah 14:2
Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are blackunto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

gates mean leaders

Let us put your interpretation of Jeremiah 14 v 2 to the test, and see what gates truly mean;

Benson Commentary;
And the gates languish, they are black
— “They are in deep mourning:” so Blaney, who observes, “The gates of cities, being places of public resort, where the courts of justice were held, and other common business transacted, seem here to be put for the persons wont to meet there; in like manner as when we say, ‘The court is in mourning,’ we mean the persons that attend the court. So that by this passage we are to understand, that all the persons who appeared in public were dejected, and put on black, or mourning, on account of the national distress.


Pulpit Commentary
The gates thereof; i.e. the people assembled there. They are black unto the ground. "To be black," in Hebrew, is "to be dressed in mourning";
(so e.g., Psalm 35:14, "I bowed down in black" ). Here we must understand the same verb which is expressed in the psalm, "They bowed down in mourning attire to the ground." "Black," however, is not to be taken literally; it means rather "squalid, unwashed" (of garments).




1) MrPresident1, where does gates mean leaders in Hebrew? And how does people being dressed in black to mourn automatically mean they are black in complexion?

2) Are you also ready to provide me with evidence of Chaldea conquered by Assyria in Abraham's lifetime?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 8:03pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Smh, you are inter playing between when one skin gets dark to mean black.


I have always repeated it here even with scientific and observable evidences that the
Semitic races occupying the Middle East are olive skinned. Olive skin tans when exposed to the sun, and pales and seems white when it is deprived of Sunlight.


You see the irony in claiming Semitic races like the Turks, Iranians, Syrians are not blacks but only the Jews are? Hmmm?

They are not devolved. Only Egypt, Assyria, and Israel are devolved waiting to be resurrected. Read Ezekiel 31. It talks about how the Assyrian (including Israel) was put into the grave, and how Pharaoh and his multitude will go into the grave too.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 8:34pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Let us put your interpretation of Jeremiah 14 v 2 to the test, and see what gates truly mean;

Benson Commentary;
And the gates languish, they are black
— “They are in deep mourning:” so Blaney, who observes, “The gates of cities, being places of public resort, where the courts of justice were held, and other common business transacted, seem here to be put for the persons wont to meet there; in like manner as when we say, ‘The court is in mourning,’ we mean the persons that attend the court. So that by this passage we are to understand, that all the persons who appeared in public were dejected, and put on black, or mourning, on account of the national distress.


Pulpit Commentary
The gates thereof; i.e. the people assembled there. They are black unto the ground. "To be black," in Hebrew, is "to be dressed in mourning";
(so e.g., Psalm 35:14, "I bowed down in black" ). Here we must understand the same verb which is expressed in the psalm, "They bowed down in mourning attire to the ground." "Black," however, is not to be taken literally; it means rather "squalid, unwashed" (of garments).




1) MrPresident1, where does gates mean leaders in Hebrew? And how does people being dressed in black to mourn automatically mean they are black in complexion?

2) Are you also ready to provide me with evidence of Chaldea conquered by Assyria in Abraham's lifetime?

1. Gates mean leaders. What about their visage that looks like a coal? Visage is blacker than a coal
Lamentations 4:8
Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.


2. https://www.livescience.com/56659-assyrians-history.html
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:34pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


They are not devolved. Only Egypt, Assyria, and Israel are devolved waiting to be resurrected. Read Ezekiel 31. It talks about how the Assyrian (including Israel) was put into the grave, and how Pharaoh and his multitude will go into the grave too.

Kai, kudos to whatever you’re smoking mehn.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:37pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


1. Gates mean leaders. What about their visage that looks like a coal? Visage is blacker than a coal
Lamentations 4:8
Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.


2. https://www.livescience.com/56659-assyrians-history.html

You and your cherry picking antics. Why did you skip Lamentations 4 v 7 cheesy

Lamentations 4 v 7
7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:


Read Lamentations 4 v 7-8. That transformation can only be possible with a race that has an olive skinned complexion. They are not blacks!

Turks, Persians, Syrians, Armenians, Jews are not blacks! Just as you can see no one is claiming they’re whites either!
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 8:50pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


You and your cherry picking antics. Why did you skip Lamentations 4 v 7 cheesy

Lamentations 4 v 7
7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

Context. You have to be very careful here. White could mean leprosy, if you interprete this white in terms of complexion, you will go against the grain of the Bible (Number 12: 10 contrasted with Isaiah 1:18), therefore, we conclude that it is talking about their spiritual state.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 8:57pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Turks, Persians, Syrians, Armenians, Jews are not blacks! Just as you can see no one is claiming they’re whites either!

They are not devolved. Only Egypt, Assyria, and Israel are devolved.

Read Ezekiel 31
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 9:19pm On Dec 30, 2019
PrecisionFx:

"Henry Ford was a collection from his personally owned Newspaper publications""

This is a very daft submission, I didn't read beyond dis line.
Cure ur own ignorance wen u choose to.

Good day cheesy
The International Jew is a four-volume set of Anti-Semitic booklets or pamphlets published and distributed in the early 1920s by Henry Ford, the American industrialist and automobile manufacturer.
In spring 1920, Ford began using his personal newspaper, The Dearborn Independent , to chronicle what he considered the "Jewish menace". For 91 issues, the weekly paper announced a variety of Jewish-evil-influenced major stories in its headlines. The most popular and aggressive stories were then chosen to be reprinted into four volumes called The International Jew . source Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Jew
Please don't mention me again if you can't cure your own rudeness and ignorance.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 9:27pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


You and your cherry picking antics. Why did you skip Lamentations 4 v 7 cheesy

Lamentations 4 v 7
7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:


Read Lamentations 4 v 7-8. That transformation can only be possible with a race that has an olive skinned complexion. They are not blacks!

Turks, Persians, Syrians, Armenians, Jews are not blacks! Just as you can see no one is claiming they’re whites either!

That bolded phrase speaks about their covenant and not their skin color
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Dec 30, 2019
ZiriMane:

The International Jew is a four-volume set of Anti-Semitic booklets or pamphlets published and distributed in the early 1920s by Henry Ford, the American industrialist and automobile manufacturer.
In spring 1920, Ford began using his personal newspaper, The Dearborn Independent , to chronicle what he considered the "Jewish menace". For 91 issues, the weekly paper announced a variety of Jewish-evil-influenced major stories in its headlines. The most popular and aggressive stories were then chosen to be reprinted into four volumes called The International Jew . source Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Jew
Please don't mention me again if you can't cure your own rudeness and ignorance.










https://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=721935


Educate urself
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:40pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


Context. You have to be very careful here. White could mean leprosy, if you interprete this white in terms of complexion, you will go against the grain of the Bible (Number 12: 10 contrasted with Isaiah 1:18), therefore, we conclude that it is talking about their spiritual state.


Which dirty context?! I guess the Caucasian whites are leprous too! Smh cheesy


Lamentations 4 v 7 is talking about their spiritual state, but Lamentations 4 v 8 is suddenly talking about their skin colour abi? Guy, you are officially confused.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 9:42pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Cc: Zirimane, Scottallen
Okcornel, One problem with most people is the issue of inferiority complex. Everyone wants to be associated with good or a phenomenal landmark.
Have you ever seen anyone say Iranians, Palestinians or Iraqis were originally black skinned? No! , simply because of their dented public image even though geographically they are closer to Israel. However, since Israel is blessed by God why shouldn't our race be associated with them¿ why shouldn't we be the blessed race¿. Africa and the black skin is unique in its own way. Israel folks could have been red, white, olive or GREEN for all I care!
They wer'nt just Africans

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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:43pm On Dec 30, 2019
BlueAngel444:


That bolded phrase speaks about their covenant and not their skin color

Jesus is Lord. So Lamentations 4 v 7-8 is talking about the covenant and not their complexion? Ok ooo cheesy cheesy This is getting interesting cheesy
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:43pm On Dec 30, 2019
ZiriMane:

Okcornel, One problem with most people is the issue of inferiority complex. Everyone wants to be associated with good or a phenomenal landmark. Have you ever seen anyone say Iranians, Palestinians or Iraqis were originally black skinned? No!, simply because of their dented public image even though geographically they are closer to Israel. However, since Israel is blessed by God why shouldn't our race be associated with them¿ why shouldn't we be the blessed race¿. Africa and the black skin is unique in its own way. Israel folks could have been red, white, olive or GREEN for all I care!
They wer'nt just Africans


Gbam! Thank you my brother.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 9:51pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Which dirty context?! I guess the Caucasian whites are leprous too! Smh cheesy

Wetin small pikin sabi?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 9:51pm On Dec 30, 2019
PrecisionFx:


https://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=721935
Educate urself

How does this link help me understand that you are not easily swayed by any information that catches your fancy on the internet without authentic verification. The link does not help me with the synopsis of the book The international Jews by Henry Ford and does not disprove it's anti-Semitic properties.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:53pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


Wetin small pikin sabi?

Guy, you be proper clown o.

So Lamentations 4 v 7 was talking about the Jews’ spiritual state, but Lamentations 4 v 8 is suddenly talking about their skin colour ba? cheesy cheesy
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:59pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:



2. https://www.livescience.com/56659-assyrians-history.html

Please where exactly in this link can we see Assyria invading Syria or Chaldea prior to or when Abraham was alive?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 10:01pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Which dirty context?! I guess the Caucasian whites are leprous too! Smh cheesy


Lamentations 4 v 7 is talking about their spiritual state, but Lamentations 4 v 8 is suddenly talking about their skin colour abi? Guy, you are officially confused.

Numbers 12:10
And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.


Psalm 51:7
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.


You can see both verses above and the contrast

The Nazarites were spiritually purer and whiter than milk, but the famine made their visage to be blacker than a coal.

Nb

Don't seek company, get understanding for yourself, those people you are calling friends, brothers bla bla bla, they are not your friend or brother o, ehn
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 10:03pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


Numbers 12:10
And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.


Psalm 51:7
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.


You can see both verses above and the contrast

The Nazarites were spiritually purer and whiter than milk, but the famine made their visage to be blacker than a coal.

Nb

Don't seek company, get understanding for yourself, those people you are calling friends, brothers bla bla bla, they are not your friend or brother o, ehn


Oh my Lord, can you see how you are twisting yourself out of context.

Lamentations 4 v 7 was talking about spiritual state, but Lamentations 4 v 8 suddenly switches to their physical outlook? Greatest joke of the century cheesy cheesy

Lamentations 4 v 7-8
7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.




So when verse 7 says THEY WERE MORE RUDDY IN BODY AS RUBBIES. It was talking about their spiritual body abi? cheesy cheesy
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 10:05pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Please where exactly in this link can we see Assyria invading Syria or Chaldea prior to or when Abraham was alive?


Read the old Assyrian kingdom, when Hammurabi took over Shamsi-Adad's land
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 10:07pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:



Oh my Lord, can you see how you are twisting yourself out of context.

Lamentations 4 v 7 was talking about spiritual state, but Lamentations 4 v 8 suddenly switches to their physical outlook? Greatest joke of the century cheesy cheesy

Ignoramus
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 10:07pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


The Nazarites were spiritually purer and whiter than milk, but the famine made their visage to be blacker than a coal.

Nb

Don't seek company, get understanding for yourself, those people you are calling friends, brothers bla bla bla, they are not your friend or brother o, ehn
Word of the day FAMINE made the Israelites black...they were not actually black skinned until famine came. Rapture where are you?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 10:09pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:



Oh my Lord, can you see how you are twisting yourself out of context.

Lamentations 4 v 7 was talking about spiritual state, but Lamentations 4 v 8 suddenly switches to their physical outlook? Greatest joke of the century cheesy cheesy

Lamentations 4 v 7-8
7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.




So when verse 7 says THEY WERE MORE RUDDY IN BODY AS RUBBIES. It was talking about their spiritual body abi? cheesy cheesy

Their ruddyness is showing how healthy and healthful they are
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 10:09pm On Dec 30, 2019
OkCornel:


Jesus is Lord. So Lamentations 4 v 7-8 is talking about the covenant and not their complexion? Ok ooo cheesy cheesy This is getting interesting cheesy


Are you laughing at your silliness, because I did type in reference to *the bolded* undecided

Mehn whatever you choose to understand na your own
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 10:13pm On Dec 30, 2019
ZiriMane:

Word of the day FAMINE made the Israelites black...they were not actually black skinned until famine came. Rapture where are you?

Famine made their darkskin to become blackskin

You read the watcher's thread?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 10:15pm On Dec 30, 2019
MrPresident1:


Their ruddyness is showing how healthy and healthful they are

So rubbies don’t have a colour ba? grin

As ruddy as rubbies means rubbies are healthy? cheesy cheesy

Chai chai, basic understanding cheesy cheesy
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 10:17pm On Dec 30, 2019
BlueAngel444:


Are you laughing at your silliness, because I did type in reference to *the bolded* undecided

Mehn whatever you choose to understand na your own

Lol, so the following Semitic races (Turks, Persians, Syrians, Armenians etc) in the Middle East were not blacks, but only the Jews were blacks? cheesy cheesy cheesy


Kai, this amusement ehn...

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