Simran94:

Please can you help shed more light on the skills? I plan to apply for Cybersecurity in the UK for my masters

Good maths skills and algorithm design and analysis
Good use of c++ and python
ethical hacking and vulnerability testing
good use of wireshack for traffic
good use of linux and matlab
good use of latex
good use of fpga for prototype development
knowledge of quatum computing.
For your case start with strengthening your programming skills.

LagosismyHome:


Please can you share more insight into IT security jobs in the UK and relevant certification or tools skills

cissp and ceh is okay.

jesmond3945:
cissp and ceh is okay.

Thanks ... noted

Good morning people,
Please a quick one, for tier 2 dependant visa, does the dependants' 630 pounds also have to be in the account for three months or is it just the primary applicant's 945 pounds? Main applicant had been in the UK for 3 months now and wants to bring his family in. Thank you.

Simran94:
If certificate was enough to be a Cybersecurity expert, why do we still have shortage of skilled personnel in the field of security. These days graduates are after the certificates they can get but don’t bother working on the skills.

The CISSP is the Premier League of all security certs. Forget about what you read about so many people having the certs na lie; here is the link that shows the number cert holders worldwide. In UK, there are only 7500+ CISSPs, that is not enough for Borough of Kent alone not to talk of the whole of UK.

https://www.isc2.org/en/About/Member-Counts#

Passing the tough exam is not enough you need 5 years verifiable experience and a CISSP credential holder in good standing to endorse you.

Most people want to get into Security because it is in high demand and very lucrative. The analogy I give most of the time is assuming you are a physical security guard employed to guard a big mansion, how can you securely guard the mansion without knowing the rogue entry points? What I am saying in essence is, you need to know systems hardware and software configurations, IT networks, Operatings systems, most recently cloud infrastructures, IoTs, in short everything that could be exploited and then think like a malicious intruder. It is very hard but doable!

For example, Target stores in US had a data breach that affected about 60m people and cost them like $18m fine where credit card information were exposed. How did it happen? the attacker piggy backed on the vulnerable network of their vendors who maintain their refrigeration systems. You can adequately protect yourself/environment but you'll always have weak link. This just shows there are so many attack vectors and a security expert has to be thinking of how to plug all the holes.

Goodluck as you venture into it.

jesmond3945:

Good maths skills and algorithm design and analysis
Good use of c++ and python
ethical hacking and vulnerability testing
good use of wireshack for traffic
good use of linux and matlab
good use of latex
good use of fpga for prototype development
knowledge of quatum computing.
For your case start with strengthening your programming skills.

Thanks
cc Aphrodite007 , as you can see programming is involved.

wonlasewonimi:


The CISSP is the Premier League of all security certs. Forget about what you read about so many people having the certs na lie; here is the link that shows the number cert holders worldwide. In UK, there are only 7500+ CISSPs, that is not enough for Borough of Kent alone not to talk of the whole of UK.

https://www.isc2.org/en/About/Member-Counts#

Passing the tough exam is not enough you need 5 years verifiable experience and a CISSP credential holder in good standing to endorse you.

Most people want to get into Security because it is in high demand and very lucrative. The analogy I give most of the time is assuming you are a physical security guard employed to guard a big mansion, how can you securely guard the mansion without knowing the rogue entry points? What I am saying in essence is, you need to know systems hardware and software configurations, IT networks, Operatings systems, most recently cloud infrastructures, IoTs, in short everything that could be exploited and then think like a malicious intruder. It is very hard but doable!

For example, Target stores in US had a data breach that affected about 60m people and cost them like $18m fine where credit card information were exposed. How did it happen? the attacker piggy backed on the vulnerable network of their vendors who maintain their refrigeration systems. You can adequately protect yourself/environment but you'll always have weak link. This just shows there are so many attack vectors and a security expert has to be thinking of how to plug all the holes.

Goodluck as you venture into it.

damn!!! It is almost impossible to be 100% secured. these cyber guys are too smart, just look at where they came in from

Simran94:

damn!!! It is almost impossible to be 100% secured. these cyber guys are too smart

Helloooo, in the past year BA, Marriot hotels, Equifax and most recently Travelex have been breached. It is not a matter of if orgnisations are going to be breached, it is a matter of when! The main deterrent is they dont want to go to jail. These guys are motivated and have all the time in the world to wreak havoc, as a matter of fact security guys are miles behind them. Hence, the demand for the skill.

Simran94:

Thanks
cc Aphrodite007 , as you can see programming is involved.

You don't need to know shiit about coding except you want to be a Pen Tester (whitehat hacker)

Simran94:
If certificate was enough to be a Cybersecurity expert, why do we still have shortage of skilled personnel in the field of security. These days graduates are after the certificates they can get but don’t bother working on the skills.

Shortage means there are more jobs than applicants in that area . ............ I know someone who was trying to build a team regarding IT security in the UK , he said the jobs they posted , there was no single applicant with relevant experience that applied . But some areas like admin or customer service you can have 100 qualified people apply for one job . That is what shortage of skills means

Not sure where you got the bold from , do people get IT certificate just for the fun of it. To even pass some of these certification , you need the skills to begin with or some experience

Haba Pasitor & Pasitors wife..........

Simran94:

Thanks
cc Aphrodite007 , as you can see programming is involved.

Baba I dey tell you, you won’t need to code in cyber security. Power shell, yes, MCSE, probably. You just need knowledge of cloud computing.

Normally as an technical person, they would expect you to have basic knowledge of programming. I’m not a coder but I have basic knowledge that can allow me brag at interviews. That’s all. If you get into the role and they now ask you to code, you watch YouTube and code. Simple.

90% of coding is reused anyway, so you’re allowed to google. Also, not all adverts know what they are asking for: IT and Med are complex fields to employ for.

LagosismyHome:


if you dont have relevant experience , having certification adds credibility to your profile

This is what I’ve been saying. If you’re a sharp person, you’ll learn on the job and they won’t even know that you don’t know. Just have the certificate to get your leg in.

I once had a QA that didn’t know shit. Guy was even earning more than me sef, can you imagine? And I was the one teaching him his job. Now if you see how good he is, it’s unbelievable.

wonlasewonimi:


You don't need to know shiit about coding except you want to be a Pen Tester (whitehat hacker)

Me I’m even tired of arguing. It’s ok, to each his own

Aphrodite007:


Baba I dey tell you, you won’t need to code in cyber security. Power shell, yes, MCSE, probably. You just need knowledge of cloud computing.

Normally as an technical person, they would expect you to have basic knowledge of programming. I’m not a coder but I have basic knowledge that can allow me brag at interviews. That’s all. If you get into the role and they now ask you to code, you watch YouTube and code. Simple.

90% of coding is reused anyway, so you’re allowed to google. Also, not all adverts know what they are asking for: IT and Med are complex fields to employ for.

Okay

Mimzyy:
Hi Folks. Your girl passed on the second attempt!!! I’m so happy. Thank you for your words of advice/encouragement. Means a lot.

Congratulations sis. Onto the main course. All the best

Lexusgs430:
Haba Pasitor & Pasitors wife..........

It's so sad and disheartening and the wife enabled him so much.

fatima04:


It's so sad and disheartening and the wife enabled him so much.

All in the name of binding and casting.........

Not new, remember Glory church Barking? Their MOG was sleeping with boys from his congregation......

Or is it Victory church? Too many to mention.........

Thanks a lot sis.

fatima04:


Congratulations sis. Onto the main course. All the best

I am a software developer and I have also dabbled in security. As a developer, if you don't have the basic security skills then you will never get anywhere. Most computer science programs in the UK teach you all the relevant skills and then it's up to you to focus on your specialty or what you want.

jesmond3945:
security is a specialized skill on its own. Not every software developer can do it. I am one so I am in a better stead to tell you.

One of my previous managers didn't have a college degree nor any certifications and he is currently Head of Engineering. It's all about skills and work experience. Almost every engineering position requires a technical assessment, so bluffing in your CV or interview will not help if you don't have the skills.

LagosismyHome:


I would say depending on what level you want to enter in ..... while industry knowledge is different from education knowledge and the higher seller is industry more than certificate , a certification in IT helps. For senior roles it's less of certification and more about relevant work experience .

However at the bottom of the chain if you are wanting to enter and then climb up then certification helps to enhance the lack of experience. What most important after that certification is how you sell yourself on the CV , the interview and how it deliver and grow from there

Not sure how anyone can understand cloud infrastructure without some basic coding skills. From my experience, every technical position in the UK requires a technical test / assessment to ensure that you can do what you say you can do. Sometimes you can do it at home and other times they want you to do it in their office in front of a few people or as a peering exercise to see how you work with other people.

One thing I have also learned is to never lie or brag on your CV. Better to say you don't know something but willing to learn and focus on what your strengths.

Aphrodite007:


Baba I dey tell you, you won’t need to code in cyber security. Power shell, yes, MCSE, probably. You just need knowledge of cloud computing.

Normally as an technical person, they would expect you to have basic knowledge of programming. I’m not a coder but I have basic knowledge that can allow me brag at interviews. That’s all. If you get into the role and they now ask you to code, you watch YouTube and code. Simple.

90% of coding is reused anyway, so you’re allowed to google. Also, not all adverts know what they are asking for: IT and Med are complex fields to employ for.

teejay231:

I am a software developer and I have also dabbled in security. As a developer, if you don't have the basic security skills then you will never get anywhere. Most computer science programs in the UK teach you all the relevant skills and then it's up to you to focus on your specialty or what you want.

security is encompassing. people in mathematics are doing it, people in computer are doing it, people in engineering are doing it, people in mgt are doing i. That you are doing https and tls/ssl is not where security begins or ends

jesmond3945:
security is encompassing. people in mathematics are doing it, people in computer are doing it, people in engineering are doing it, people in mgt are doing i. That you are doing https and tls/ssl is not where security begins or ends

Not sure why you would be so condescending and assume that I don't know where security begins or ends. If you must know, my background and experience is vast. I am currently a dev as it was my passion and it doesn't feel like work.

teejay231:
One of my previous managers didn't have a college degree nor any certifications and he is currently Head of Engineering. It's all about skills and work experience. Almost every engineering position requires a technical assessment, so bluffing in your CV or interview will not help if you don't have the skills.

Many self... not just Engineering . I met many British people with no degree who are high up. Relevant work experience is everything

teejay231:


Not sure why you would be so condescending and assume that I don't know where security begins or ends. If you must know, my background and experience is vast. I am currently a dev as it was my passion and it doesn't feel like work.

i am sorry but i cast aspersion on your view that s3curity is not in demand, infact it is more in demand than sw dev.

Lexusgs430:
Haba Pasitor & Pasitors wife..........

He has been suspended from the register and would most likely not return to it.

claremont:


He has been suspended from the register and would most likely not return to it.

You're very polite.........

Thank you all for the information you have been putting out on this thread.

Kudos to Justwise, Lexus, Fatima and co.

I've learnt quite a lot.

I practically read from page 1-261, for over three days now, and I have learnt a whole lot!!!!.

But please, pardon me as I'd like to ask some questions; they might be too much, but as per JJC that I is, abeg help una boy o...

So I have started my personal search for jobs in the UK, through some of the job platforms mentioned earlier, and I am hoping for a positive outcome. My main questions are;

1. I'm thinking of paying an agent to help with the whole process, as I've never done anything related to Visa before, never travelled out of the country before either, so I feel maybe they'd help me get a job faster, and I can get a COS from a sponsor. Do you guys think it's okay, or I should continue with my personal search and keep hoping?

2. From all the discussions so far, it seems the Tier 2 Visa is what will work for me. I'm an Art Director, my basic skills set are Graphics design, Motion Graphics and Video Editing. I just want to confirm that the Tier 2 Visa is what will work for me, right?

3. From all the conversation on this thread, I've learnt that with the Tier 2 Visa, I can also apply for Tier 2 dependents, and have them relocate with me, once I can get a COS.

But most of the people I've seen here that applied for Tier 2 dependents were already married, and even with kids, so the whole family would just relocate.

The thing is, I am not yet married, but I have a girlfriend, and we quite have a very strong relationship. I want to know, when I eventually get a Tier 2 Visa, should I register her as a dependent, even though we're not married yet, and she's not relocating with me yet, as she's currently running her Masters,and won't be through till the end of this year.

Would she still be able to come to the UK next year as a dependent, provided I can make available proof of funds, since the COS maintenance fee for dependents would have expired?

I'm thinking of going to the UK first, and work for at least 1year, to get financial stability and accommodation in place.

Then come back to Nigeria for the wedding, and then have her come back to the UK with me?

Will this be possible?

4. If this would be possible, and I've already registered her as a dependent, would she still be able to get a visiting visa without the Home of Office thinking that she won't leave the UK, since she's on my dependent list already?

Sorry for the long epistle, but as a JJC that I is, I just want to know all available options before everything puts in play.

Gundi:
Thank you all for the information you have been putting out on this thread.

Kudos to Justwise, Lexus, Fatima and co.

I've learnt quite a lot.

I practically read from page 1-261, for over three days now, and I have learnt a whole lot!!!!.

But please, pardon me as I'd like to ask some questions; they might be too much, but as per JJC that I is, abeg help una boy o...

So I have started my personal search for jobs in the UK, through some of the job platforms mentioned earlier, and I am hoping for a positive outcome. My main questions are;

1. I'm thinking of [b]paying an agent to help with the whole proces[/b]s, as I've never done anything related to Visa before, never travelled out of the country before either, so I feel maybe they'd help me get a job faster, and I can get a COS from a sponsor. Do you guys think it's okay, or I should continue with my personal search and keep hoping?

2. From all the discussions so far, it seems the Tier 2 Visa is what will work for me. I'm an Art Director, my basic skills set are Graphics design, Motion Graphics and Video Editing. I just want to confirm that the Tier 2 Visa is what will work for me, right?

3. From all the conversation on this thread, I've learnt that with the Tier 2 Visa, I can also apply for Tier 2 dependents, and have them relocate with me, once I can get a COS.

But most of the people I've seen here that applied for Tier 2 dependents were already married, and even with kids, so the whole family would just relocate.

The thing is, I am not yet married, but I have a girlfriend, and we quite have a very strong relationship. I want to know, when I eventually get a Tier 2 Visa, should I register her as a dependent, even though we're not married yet, and she's not relocating with me yet, as she's currently running her Masters,and won't be through till the end of this year.

Would she still be able to come to the UK next year as a dependent, provided I can make available proof of funds, since the COS maintenance fee for dependents would have expired?

I'm thinking of going to the UK first, and work for at least 1year, to get financial stability and accommodation in place.

Then come back to Nigeria for the wedding, and then have her come back to the UK with me?

Will this be possible?

4. If this would be possible, and I've already registered her as a dependent, would she still be able to get a visiting visa without the Home of Office thinking that she won't leave the UK, since she's on my dependent list already?

Sorry for the long epistle, but as a JJC that I is, I just want to know all available options before everything puts in play.

1. You read the whole thread and you still want to use agent?? OYO

2. check out the UK shortage of occupation list to see if your skills are in demand. T2 is the visa for those who get an employer that's willing to sponsor/endorse your visa ( I hate the word sponsor it deters a lot of employers)

3. You can get register her once you are married no need to rush. And if you are planning to work for a year before she joins you, you no longer need maintenance prove from the cos. You should have required funds in your account.

4. ...

umarwy:


1. You read the whole thread and you still want to use agent?? OYO

2. check out the UK shortage of occupation list to see if your skills are in demand. T2 is the visa for those who get an employer that's willing to sponsor/endorse your visa ( I hate the word sponsor it deters a lot of employers)

3. You can get register her once you are married no need to rush. And if you are planning to work for a year before she joins you, you no longer need maintenance prove from the cos. You should have required funds in your account.

4. ...

Lol, boss thanks for the reply, it's just desperation o, I've been getting feedbacks quite alright, and most of them have been saying *thank you for your application, we'll get back to you*, so I just thought maybe using an agent would make it faster, and more efficient. � But, I think I'll just keep applying and wait for a positive response.

And yes, I have checked, my skills fall under shortage occupation list.

He even described himself as an animal in this BBC video lol

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51064219

Lexusgs430:


You're very polite.........