True. But in the end I’m still better off here than anywhere else in the world (for now).

So I’ll limit my whining

sassysure:

Somebody dey vex o.
It will not tally.
It's a necessary evil needed to make dollar stronger.
Capital flight is the worst enemy of any administrator.
Presidents can do anything to stop that.
When companies move, people are laid off, it will still affect the economy negatively.

Mtn did that in Nigeria. Govt was warned and see.
When it has plunged Nigeria into abyss, the now know they have to squash the useless tariff.
We may never recover in the next 20yrs.

DexterousOne:
You have spoken well

Thank you

cococandy:
Exactly. They keep giving them breaks with little to no regulations to make it worthwhile for the average citizens. This should be about us, shouldn’t it?

They should have a job quota that they are required to provide with each million or billion they get. What do they pay their employees to keep them living a decent lifestyle (I’m not talking minimum wage). What are their maternity and paternity leave requirements? Sick leave? Etc
Corporations are requiring their workers to do more and more with less and less even with all the money they are getting from govt. Workers are paying these exorbitant taxes to keep jobs in the country and also breaking their backs to maximize profit for the corporations without adequate staffing to make the job easy on the workers or the incentives that should come from the extra money they are getting in tax breaks.

For example, I work in a hospital. There’s a giant corporation buying up a lot of the hospitals in the country. They are giving this company so much monopoly it sickens me.
I moved from the west coast last year and encountered a different (actually worse ) system where I am now.

What would you know though, this company has bought its way all the way up from the west coast hospitals in its wake and is now here . They have bought the new hospital that I’m working at. Hello old friend! When one company holds that much power, it’s bound to be abused no questions asked

Effect of capitalism
Una be the number one capitalist nation of the world.
Others dey learn work where una dey na.

Monopoly is their watchword.
They swallow everything on their way to the top.

Make parliament change the system.
Almost all countries practice one form of capitalism or the other but US,.oh lala.

We have one among us, dangote .
He don't swallow but destroy.
It's even better he swallows.

That's why I don't take his billions serious

cococandy:


True. But in the end I’m still better off here than anywhere else in the world (for now).

So I’ll limit my whining

Of course,.of course.

I know.
Even here, u can never compare that with where u left.

Humans are insatiable so we gat to complain.

StrikeBack:
Na wah oo

But wait oo

As a Nigerian, What do we get as benefit of being a citizen of this country

Well, the green passport if I must say.

And the low key stereotype you get anywhere you present that passport outside of Africa.

linearity:


You don’t need all that money, you can still beat the system normally!

Immediately you miss your period, just file fo visitor’s visa if you qualify and nothing is showing on your tummy yet. If you are given the visa, just leave even if you are only a few weeks or days pregnant, at POE they will stamp you in with the usual 6 months visa, at the 4th month of your stay file form I539 to extend your stay for another 6 months.

After you give birth make sure to visit the Whitehouse and take a picture with your baby there as a poke to their collective ignorance.

I-539 extension is no longer as easy as you paint it to be here, things are changing drastically. And the stay period is now based on what you came for, the traditional 6months stamp on B1/B2 is being changed. I have a friend that was just given two weeks to attend a conference and head back to Nigeria. Trump administration is not playing around, they are hell bent on clamping down on both legal and illegal immigration!

genq:


Dude stop deceiving yourself

You call this scorching heat good weather?

Not feeling out of place? In this country where NOTHING works? I love how you conveniently ignored the constant feeling of frustration when trying to get anything done is this hell hole, oppression from SARS etc..

No racism? I guess you've never witnessed or experienced tribalism before.

Getting to see family? This is the most overrated sh!t! How many people actually enjoy the company of their nosy, dramatic extended family?

Look take me abroad, give me a chocolate goddess and 3 kids and il be the happiest man alive!

It really took 5 minutes to write this. I am not saying your wish is not possible, I am just saying overseas is not as easy as people claim to be. Some are doing well and some are living fake life. That is all I am saying travelling overseas will not turn everything easy. Enjoy what you have in Nigeria that all I am saying And inspire for better things. Work harder and smart, be honest , pray harder and leave everything in God hand.

sassysure:

But the truth is this, reduction or no reduction, they still pay higher than the rest yet they are the smallest %age


But, Canada is in trouble.

No eu country do birth tourism.
US don join.

I think Canada, Brazil, Australia etc.

Since Canada call US their big brother, will they sustain this for a long time?

That I do not know to be honest. Canada can sometimes be too laid back for it's own good. It has to reach an enormous proportion before Canada takes action. Just like the inflow of refugees crossing via Quebec. When the Haitians started crossing, the flow was considered not much and a bit insignificant, but the moment naija joined, that was when the government quickly had a put a stop to it.

The minister for immigration actually visited the Canadian High Commission and the American embassy in Nigeria to have an idea of what was actually going on . The moment he returned to Canada, there was a rise in US visa rejection to Nigerians. Also those applying for asylum based on gay/genital mut. and Boko Haram started having applications rejected and were told to move to Lagos or Port Harcourt. I feel the Same might just happen for this birth tourism saga. The moment those that intended to travel to the states focus their attention on Canada, the government would quickly pass a legislation to stop the flow.

Although, there have been talks within government circles about Changing the rules that one of the parents have to be a permanent resident for the new born to qualify for a Canadian passport.

Their country their rules...just stay in your so called giant of Africa and give birth in darkness. Lol

Wow! Many actresses and female celebrities will not like this news!

rampantlover:
Their country their rules...just stay in your so called giant of Africa and give birth in darkness. Lol

Give birth in darkness ..... with high level of insecurity around the country, someone can enjoy his/her money in peace. Kidnapping,banditry,Boko haram mayhem on innocent souls e.t.c

AZeD1:

This rule doesn't affect the rich. With $500k you will get an investor visa.

Anyone with that much to burn on visa does not need an Anchor Baby...
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Jubal01:
This is a good development. Let everybody stay and develop his/her country. Enough of this shameful acts by the thieves we have call leaders.

You have a low sperm count....YOU SEF BE RACIST...

genq:
Dude stop deceiving yourself

You call this scorching heat good weather?

Not feeling out of place? In this country where NOTHING works? I love how you conveniently ignored the constant feeling of frustration when trying to get anything done is this hell hole, oppression from SARS etc..

No racism? I guess you've never witnessed or experienced tribalism before.

Getting to see family? This is the most overrated sh!t! How many people actually enjoy the company of their nosy, dramatic extended family?

Look take me abroad, give me a chocolate goddess and 3 kids and il be the happiest man alive!

Fix your country like they fixed theirs....
People create nations, not the other way around.
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I usually do not like the racist Dotard Trump...
BUT THIS RULE IS AN EXCELLENT DEVELOPMENT!

If we do not want our offspring born into this mess, we should work hard to fix it. My parents were born into that same US society that folks are rushing off to in a not so distant past (the 1960s) when black folk were still being lynched and hung in public squares in the South, separate bathrooms, water fountains, hotels, and even schools existed for whites and blacks (with the latter being of vastly inferior standards), and stores and lunch-counters routinely refused to serve black folk. In fact, NIGERIANS HAD VOTED IN ABOUT 3 NATIONAL ELECTIONS BEFORE US BLACKS WERE GUARANTEED THE RIGHT TO VOTE (pursuant to the 1965 Voting Rights Act).

About 20 odd years ago, Rwandans were busy slaughtering other Rwandans in an orgy of genocide. Yet today, less than a full generation later, Rwanda has long ago grown into one of Africa’s (and the Third World’s) leading lights. Nigerians should quit with this interminable Blame Game and Otherisms get on with the business of fixing Nigeria (if not for themselves, for their offspring they claim to care so much about), because ultimately Nigeria’s condition is the culmination of the acts of ALL Nigerians (either by commission or omission), and personally I am glad that the racist Dotard Trump is kicking Nigerians up the “shit-hole” to concentrate our collective minds.[
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Obijulius:
See another one!



This one is locked in that useless Nigeria

don't mind the haters. Do your thing. There's Canada and Australia

midnighter:
Perfect. People always brush over the difference between the working, middle and upper-classes in these threads and it makes the whole discussion meaningless.

What exactly are you "staying to develop" when your education, training and general expectation for life as an adult are drastically different from what you are experiencing in reality? Is a teacher or a nurse supposed to be struggling to eat?

So why wont they swarm the airport like locusts Thats what people dont understand. If you want the educated, middle class majority to stay and develop the place, you have to make sure that at the very least, their lives wont be a living hell.

"Work hard kids, study hard...be disciplined...one day you'll be a lawyer....a doctor...and...."

And you wont have running water, constant electricity, decent wages or be able to walk down street without some haggard, disgusting fellow appearing to call himself a "Police officer" (who, by the way, is supposed to be part of that trained middle class) harassing you for N20 and waving his loaded gun.

Does it make sense To anybody...?

Please who do you expect to do that for this educated, middle class?
Who does it for the educated middle class in the US?
Do you if this majority of educated, middle class Nigerians are volunteering time and donating money into the political process to ensure their own space is protected
This sense of entitlement without matching sense of responsibilities will worsen our country and make us perpetual underdogs even when we are in the US.


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TotoNaRubber:
ok

stop spreading ur virus

PaulSimon2020:
I-539 extension is no longer as easy as you paint it to be here, things are changing drastically. And the stay period is now based on what you came for, the traditional 6months stamp on B1/B2 is being changed. I have a friend that was just given two weeks to attend a conference and head back to Nigeria. Trump administration is not playing around, they are hell bent on clamping down on both legal and illegal immigration!

Different strokes different folks, I have friends that have been extending b1/b2 endlessly some eventually exchange it for f1 visa.....not all USCIS service offices are taking things as drastic as Trump wants.....many even opposes his stands on immigration.

Many of these visa extensions don’t have a fast rule on the books, they are at the discretion of the person adjudicating on your case.

chukzyfcbb:
Chaii this policy is not cool o,

If USA is blocked it can only mean one thing

Canada way gets piled up

Canada and UK is the next hop, best gift to give your child is a foreign PALI. That way they have better opportunites when they get older to study.

Secure that Pali by all means, if USA no gree, UK and Canada is there.

Comments here be smelling of jealousy yet they line up in the travel thread looking for escape route, F*""king Hypocrites

I think UK and Netherlands own is blocked too.
Remaining Canada ,Australia, Scandinavian RePuBlic and some other European countries

Obijulius:
See another one!

This one is locked in that useless Nigeria

And who made Nigeria useless if not the double jeopardy losers running away to America where the people have worked and continue working to fix their own place?

Hundreds of Methodists Seek to Discipline Jeff Sessions Over Family Separations

Hundreds of members of the United Methodist Church have filed claims of child abuse and racism against Attorney General Jeff Sessions under the church’s “Book of Discipline” after he enacted a “zero-tolerance” immigration policy that has led to the separation of thousands of parents and children at the U.S. border.

Some 640 clergy members and laypersons in the church have written an open letter to the leaders of the two congregations where Sessions, a longtime Methodist, attends church. They are calling on church leaders to reach out to Sessions and help him “step back from his harmful actions and work to repair the damage he is currently causing to immigrants, particularly children and families.”

The letter condemns Sessions, alleging he has misused his “tremendous social/political power” in his enforcement of the nation’s laws — especially the recent policy that has led U.S. Border Patrol agents to take more than 2,000 children from parents arrested at the border. The separations are the result of the Trump Administration’s policy of prosecuting everyone who is caught crossing the border illegally. They have caused an uproar, which have been fueled by the release of photos and videos of children in detention.

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DexterousOne:



The reason why Nigeria is underdeveloped is two fold


1) Glorification of Mediocrity over Merit

2) Lack of long term thinking by majority of the population, coupled with widespread ignorance, the uneducated, and the miseducated

How do you explain to your kids that more people fought for Naira Marley release than Sowore and Jalingo release?

How will you explain to yourkids that Buhari with no certificate, became president over a people who are deluded to thik that they are an educated and sophisticated people

How do you explainto your kids when they are grown, done with college and cannot get jobs because they no get "connection"
Or that he cannot aspire to be president because of no other reason than he was born a son of a man (myself) who comes from the "wrong" ethnic group (Igbo) ?

We the educated, exposed and skilled are tired and fed up
That is why we are leaving

Last last
It's the UAE resident permit I will go and get
Then connect a Caribbean country for a second passport

Let Nigeria be ruined and despoiled by the MC Oluomos and Buhari and Mercy and Tacha and Naira Marley etc

A countty that is not serious

Please dear. Dont take it to heart. We love igbos

grossintel:
Make good money and hide like a rat? Buy Gwagon and travel to your village with it without security and see if you'll come back in one piece.

abi. The ones with ordinary cars still riskit

Gerrard59:
From responses here, Nigeria's "lower class" are elated by this development and why should they not be? The contract worker in your bank's branch will never get to give birth or sponsor his wife to do same in the US; the dude doing his ND has resigned his fate about such privilege; the lass who struggles to fend for herself never imagine doing same and lots more in Watt Market, Ladipo, Gboko, Offa etc. They are happy with this development because even when the law was there, they never benefitted. So is it now it has been restricted that they would be worried? Ta! The persons who are worried about this are your upper middle class in Lekki, VI, Maitama, Ikoyi, Ikeja GRA, PH GRA etc. who believe their children lose out of a powerful passport which confer on them unfettered access to some of the world's best institutions at affordable rates and ease of entry at different POE stations globally. It is the middle class families who are in Yaba, Surulere, Ibadan, PH etc. who are worried that since they cannot afford $1M for investor's visa or even that of countries in the Caribbean region ($100K+) citizenship by investment, the citizenship by birth can afford their children (not them as parents) same opportunities as those in Lekki and Co.

However, these elites and upper middle class folks are in the minority or are basically infinitesimal in the scheme of things as the vast majority of Nigerians are poor. Those in the lower strata of the society won't feel concerned for the Ikoyi folks because these Maitama individuals didn't and don't feel concerned for the struggles of persons in my first sentence pass through. Which brings to the reality that Nigeria has to be developed and only the upper/middle class individuals can push for such development. But then, these Yaba, Ewet Housing, Ikoyi folks will simply move to Canada, Mexico, Brazil and other countries that offer citizenship by birth. After all, when the UK stopped post school visa, they moved to Germany and currently Canada.

In summary, the vast vast majority of Nigerians will be ecstatic with this news because it doesn't affect them in anyway let alone negatively. Call it schadenfreude, you won't be wrong.

Nicely said in bold.

DexterousOne:


After two close shaves with the brothers from the underworld

And how a misdiagnosis almost took me out

No thanks

That xenophobic backlash incident we had in Lagos open my eyes to a lot of things

Nigeria is not a good place to live
Regardless of how much you make
No one can convince me otherwise

After what I have seen

Come and see management pilfering, stealing and killing companies that people worked hard to build

Make I No talk too much abeg
Nigeria is rotten

Thank God I have some loose change to finance whatever move I'll be making next

Most Nigerians are not that fortunate

You are RiGht, but These Americans are very strong hearted o. I remember when uncle Paul stole ugly old rugged Peugeot 504. Ordinary one hail Mary and he could not sleep, his conscience was worrying him. These ones are freely stealing children in the name of Children services unend and freely doing their thing, flying with legal arms, no one is disturbing them.

DexterousOne:
The reason why Nigeria is underdeveloped is two fold

1) Glorification of Mediocrity over Merit

2) Lack of long term thinking by majority of the population, coupled with widespread ignorance, the uneducated, and the miseducated

How do you explain to your kids that more people fought for Naira Marley release than Sowore and Jalingo release?

How will you explain to your kids that Buhari with no certificate, became president over a people who are deluded to thik that they are an educated and sophisticated people

How do you explain to your kids when they are grown, done with college and cannot get jobs because they no get "connection"
Or that he cannot aspire to be president because of no other reason than he was born a son of a man (myself) who comes from the "wrong" ethnic group (Igbo) ?

We the educated, exposed and skilled are tired and fed up
That is why we are leaving

Last last
It's the UAE resident permit I will go and get
Then connect a Caribbean country for a second passport

Let Nigeria be ruined and despoiled by the MC Oluomos and Buhari and Mercy and Tacha and Naira Marley etc

A countty that is not serious

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Joshica:

Do you have $500k just asking

even bubble no get ham. I heard it's his cabal members that always take the money and use him as a cover, giving him earphones and all tha

Jubal01:
This is a good development. Let everybody stay and develop his/her country. Enough of this shameful acts by the thieves we have call leaders.

Lol you are just being shallow! Do you think it's only people from developing countries that travel to the States to give birth? Different people travel for birth tourism to give their kids options not primarily because their home is bad or underdeveloped.

This policy just targets people that need Visas to access the USA for child birth reasons. If the USA were actually so worried about birth tourism they should make it equally hard for everyone or better still scrap citizenship by birth rather than limiting access for persons from developing countries.

AZeD1:

This rule doesn't affect the rich. With $500k you will get an investor visa.

They've increased it to $900k mininum since last November.

magicminister:
The comments I read on this thread reenforces the reason why I hate poor people. You see, everyone that celebrated this new rule only did so NOT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME THEM, but because IT AFFECTS SOMEONE ELSE THAT THEY THEH PERCEIVE TO BE DOING BETTER THAN THEM!

They have given up on themselves so much that they do not see any hope that they’ll someday be in a position where they can afford great medical care and better life within and outside Nigeria.

Poverty kill you there!!

They do it here too. When one can't get into an ivy league school, they pick on the flaws. I just keep away from such gatherings as a StuDent.

DexterousOne:
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The Nigerian definition of that is to look poor and miserable like the rest around you.

You cannot enjoy what you worked hard to have in peaceagain

Not only that. As a lady, The Covering up aspect too

Chaleeee:


This Crab Mentality is why Nigeria will never develop in your life time.

Chaleee, I spot you again. No mind the haters.
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