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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by SpartanKing: 8:34am On Jan 30, 2020
Tetehjewels:


How can it be a reaction to Amotekun when the Eastern ports were being prepared for this from as far back as 4 years ago?

When did Amotekun spring up?
4 years ago; you said! Why sudden implementation? The North knows that the SW gets the bulk of its revenue from Lagos. There's always a build-up to any major occurrence. Don't be surprise to notice the major shipping companies not berthing in Lagos!
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by DuxofMen: 8:34am On Jan 30, 2020
majamajic:


Wetin concern ibos here , don't u know the difference between Niger Delta and SE ?

Or u think the Lagos importer that directed his goods to Lagos terminal don't have sense ?

Do u know he is going to move the containers back to Lagos again ?

If Onee was his best option he would have chosed Port Harcourt from country of departure

The importers in East do choose port in the first place , so this is Lagos consignment going down to Niger Delta only to move back to Lagos again. Niger Delta government will gain it not SE !!

Have you seen the sheer number of containers and trucks going out of Lagos on a daily basis? Yes, Lagos is a commercial centre but only a fraction of the imports are actually consumed here, the bulk are distributed round the country and even re-exported to other west African countries.

The implications of utilisation the other ports is simply that, importers will invest in warehouses in those regions, thereby generating more commercial activities. I agree the SS stands to benefit but the SE as well. Please tell me which is closer to Aba, a major commercial hub in the SE, is it Apapa or Onne? Have you considered the gains in terms of exports of made in Aba goods from those regions if this works out. Methinks our brothers from the SE should actually be excited about this policy and do all within their means to make it work rather than them expressing all manners of condemnation and skepticism about it.

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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Nobody: 8:35am On Jan 30, 2020
Most people commenting on this haven't been to any of the ports in their lives. Got to APM terminal in Apapa, the congestion is so severe that vessels that arrived since December haven't even berthed, talkless of discharge, Do you know how much this vessels pay each day their are in Nigerian Waters $1500 (usd)..... Tincan terminal itself is also congested most containers are stepped down at lighter terminals such as KLT and SCOA .... Do you know how much for demurrage on a container per day. All this unnecessary expenses + increased import duties and levies, force importers to increase price of wares which in return increases the price of the goods for the local consumer.

We have long advocated for ports and lighter terminals in other parts of the country to increase the ease of doing business but the government is imbibed in ethno-political sentiments ..and Nigerians are left to suffer.

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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Donaldoni: 8:36am On Jan 30, 2020
No more excuse for piggiiiddiiioottss to remain in Lagos grin

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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Nobody: 8:36am On Jan 30, 2020
SpartanKing:
4 years ago; you said! Why sudden implementation? The North knows that the SW gets the bulk of its revenue from Lagos. There's always a build-up to any major occurrence. Don't be surprise to notice the major shipping companies not berthing in Lagos!

It was not a sudden implementation oga.

Test runs were already done last year with some vessels redirected to Rivers and warri ports

So this is not about Amotekun
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Ustec: 8:36am On Jan 30, 2020
Tetehjewels:


I am sure the so called herdsmen this is also Political same way the Militants were
Those herdsmen are really having a free ride,though some are politically motivated,the issue of bandits and the likes,
Really becoming to serious,we have never had it like this for a very long time.
Buhari needs to go hard on them now that they want to see his true military colour.
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Nobody: 8:38am On Jan 30, 2020
Ustec:

Those herdsmen are really having a free ride,though some are politically motivated,the issue of bandits and the likes,
Really becoming to serious,we have never had it like this for a very long time.
Buhari needs to go hard on them now that they want to see his true military colour.

When he does the same people complaining will be the ones shouting RULE OF LAW everywhere especially if some political figures close to them are indited
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by MrBONE2(m): 8:40am On Jan 30, 2020
ThiagoKid:
To every one step forward, 10 step backward

And then finally 100 steps forward grin

My BaBu till 4023grin

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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Urhobokwaleboy(m): 8:42am On Jan 30, 2020
A nigga once said:if this is true, i say nice one from buhari. I pray say make him bring more better policy when go also help the citizens and not only themselfs.....

Obasanjo come and see something o. Mr letter writter..lol
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by AmTruth: 8:43am On Jan 30, 2020
The issue about port congestion have always been before the border closures. However you are right that this is just a mere way out, except a standard policy is put in place.
Because the question is what if the infrastructure in Lagos begin to accommodate the vessels will they go back to Lagos? If yes then this is a temporary measure.

Policies to sustain the Eastern Ports must be put in place and we look forward to that.

God bless Nigeria
Maxymilliano:
The move was borne out of necessity due to heavy congestion at the Port occasioned by the border closure, which compels most vessels designated for Lome or Cotonou en route Nigeria ab initio to redirect to Nigeria Ports.

This has caused sever backlogs, causing vessels to be held for several days.

Currently, it takes an average of 10 weeks for vessels to berth due to the congestions and additional 2 weeks for your containers to find its way out of the Port.

A good development, no doubt but I don't really see it as masterstroke, except you are probably still being spoonfed and have not really ventured into real business.

Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by jneutron4000: 8:43am On Jan 30, 2020
DaBullIT:
Please don't cause wahala this early morning


please, they will take it the wrong way and someone will link imaginary dots to claim Yoruba is perfecting the move to seceede with creation of Amoketun and decongestion of ports


It is what it is, actually it is the Federal government who are Fulanis that are acting fast. They need a total control and access to sea. They are desperately looking for ways to claim water ways of people's region. They were advancing into Yorubaland by silently killing Yorubas until we said enough is enough and all Yorubas both home and abroad supports Amotekun so with that, they know it over for them in Yorubaland. Britain are the thinking cap for fulanis and they told them that Yoruba land is a no go area and a battle they can never win, not in this life and the next so they have to strategise and look for other plan.
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by I888(m): 8:45am On Jan 30, 2020
Tetehjewels:
They say Buhari is incompetent but everyday he keeps doing things PDP never did and could never do in their entire 16yrs of failed leadership.

He is showing through action that he is competent.

For the first time in decades the Eastern ports are coming alive with vessels
yeah, for infrastructure, the man is trying.

Though I am not his fan due to state of the country but I have to admit that his Lagos Ibadan Railway project opened an indirect door of multimillions for me...
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by KakiP(m): 8:46am On Jan 30, 2020
chukel:
Very commendable. However I have my fears about the warri terminal. The youths will constitute themselves into greater nuisance

Any vessel going to the volatile Niger delta area usually have armed guards onboard
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by ALMUSTAQIM(m): 8:46am On Jan 30, 2020
helinues:
This is what we have all been clamouring for.. Decongest Lagos port and give opportunity to other ports in Nigeria.

SS governors should seized this opportunity to tighten the security of their region.. More job opportunities to your people while that will ease state government stress
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by ALMUSTAQIM(m): 8:47am On Jan 30, 2020
Tetehjewels:
They say Buhari is incompetent but everyday he keeps doing things PDP never did and could never do in their entire 16yrs of failed leadership.

He is showing through action that he is competent.

For the first time in decades the Eastern ports are coming alive with vessels
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by michoim(m): 8:48am On Jan 30, 2020
Tetehjewels:
They say Buhari is incompetent but everyday he keeps doing things PDP never did and could never do in their entire 16yrs of failed leadership.

He is showing through action that he is competent.

For the first time in decades the Eastern ports are coming alive with vessels
PMB enemies lack vision
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Tayeni(m): 8:48am On Jan 30, 2020
Daniel058:
But kwanu what if they offload ur goods where you intended to offload it? That one na favor Abi punishment? kiss

Well,we need Port here Biko....



Abakaliki_Port_on_my_mind
grin
Good question. Would people have to truck their goods back to their original destinations?

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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Agboriotejoye(m): 8:48am On Jan 30, 2020
efighter:
And for 16 years, PDP could not offload even hand paddled canoes outside Lagos. Yet, the useless clowns went to tell USA to help them with Nigeria election. USA whose election was rigged by school children in Russia. Please let APC continue rigging and ruling.
You zombies are totally irredeemable. How does creating a problem yourself looking for a solution yourself a "genius move"? Which govt in the history of Nigeria has ever closed the land borders for this long or are you unaware that most cargo meant for Nigeria actually berth at Benin, Cameroon and even Ghana ports?
Have you gone to those ports which were referred to as river ports by amaechi recently to be sure they have the capacity to handle the volume of vessels being redirected to them?

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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Nobody: 8:52am On Jan 30, 2020
I888:
yeah, for infrastructure, the man is trying.

Though I am not his fan due to state of the country but I have to admit that his Lagos Ibadan Railway project opened an indirect door of multimillions for me...

Yet you are not his fan... Yet he has indirectly or directly blessed you
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Nobody: 8:53am On Jan 30, 2020
Agboriotejoye:

You zombies are totally irredeemable. How does creating a problem yourself looking for a solution yourself a "genius move"? Which govt in the history of Nigeria has ever closed the land borders for this long or are you unaware that most cargo meant for Nigeria actually berth at Benin, Cameroon and even Ghana ports?
Have you gone to those ports which were referred to as river ports by amaechi recently to be sure they have the capacity to handle the volume of vessels being redirected to them?

Read and stop throwing spit everywhere abeg wailing zombie

https://www.nairaland.com/5655923/tolu-ogunlesis-tweets-revival-eastern
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by DuxofMen: 8:53am On Jan 30, 2020
Zooposki:


It was born out of necessity. He had no choice. Lagos was too overcrowded .


Hollow talk.

The need to decongest Lagos port has been there for years. This government is doing something concrete about it, not lip service or audio talk like nairalanders like to call it. See this report in this day? Yes it's a 2020 report, but you'd see planning as far back as 2018 by NPA for this policy. So let's give this government a break.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/01/03/transformation-of-eastern-ports/
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Sonnyboom: 8:54am On Jan 30, 2020
ThiagoKid:
To every one step forward, 10 step backward
that is all your bigoted soul saw about this noble policy ?!
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Ustec: 8:55am On Jan 30, 2020
Tetehjewels:


When he does the same people complaining will be the ones shouting RULE OF LAW everywhere especially if some political figures close to them are indited
I know,
Reason why he wants citizens to clamour on some critical issues before he takes drastic actions.
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Sonnyboom: 8:57am On Jan 30, 2020
Where I come from they say if you don't because of yam eat oil, you eat oil because of the yam either way it is a calculated move orchestrated only by Buhari n it is a goal that should be accorded to only him

All your other Epistle able being spoon fed shows your lack of insight n assimilation. If Buhari did not block border the revenue being lost to neighbouring ports can not be split among Nigeria's ports instead of Lome n Niger.

Maxymilliano:
The move was borne out of necessity due to heavy congestion at the Port occasioned by the border closure, which compels most vessels designated for Lome or Cotonou en route Nigeria ab initio to redirect to Nigeria Ports.

This has caused sever backlogs, causing vessels to be held for several days.

Currently, it takes an average of 10 weeks for vessels to berth due to the congestions and additional 2 weeks for your containers to find its way out of the Port.

A good development, no doubt but I don't really see it as masterstroke, except you are probably still being spoonfed and have not really ventured into real business.

So a man asking his wife what she does with vaginal cream is rude n the foolish woman response was to be given space... Lol. At times I feel NL breed fools to comment on topics such as this.


Gloriagee:
The message u sent is not something to worry about but her response abi her reaction na the one wey dey worry you. Dont worry you never start to see reaction, u hear.

Newton's third law is: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Your wife is really nice. She blocked u to keep herself from saying stuff she'll regret. U definitely can do better by being open minded n free from biases.

Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by IamTallest: 9:01am On Jan 30, 2020
The issue here is not a permanent one.they are only redirecting vessels which cannot berth at Lagos ports due to congestion as a result of border closure!!.....let that sink first.....
The real deal will come when vessels start going directly from europe,asia,America directly to the eastern ports without having to come to Lagos At All!!!.....
Are you aware that most of these vessels carrying goods at Lagos ports now are actually meant for importers residing in lagos....it will be difficult for them to go to Portharcourt or calabar to clear their goods.so its not a case to fully celebrate as its additional cost to the importers.

Let the government revive the eastern ports by declaring that any goods bound for the eastern region should be cleared at the eastern ports.dat is when we would roll out the drums and clap.dassol
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by pafisayo(m): 9:05am On Jan 30, 2020
omohayek:

You seem to be the only other person on here who understands why this move is far less sensible than it might appear. Everyone else commenting seems to think the importers who insist on using the congested Lagos ports have no idea about how the costs of waiting there weigh against the costs and risks of using Onne, Calabar and the rest, but surely those with huge sums of their own money on the line will be most thorough in doing the necessary due diligence.

If daring pirates and paying extra road transportation costs were worth using non-Lagos ports, no one would hesitate to use them, just as Nigeria wouldn’t have needed to close its borders to force traffic from Lome to Apapa if Apapa were being properly managed in the first place. The reality is that Apapa doesn’t rank amongst the first 50 busiest ports worldwide, with any number of individual ports in Europe, North America and Asia handling many times the volume of Nigeria’s entire import/export volume in a safe and speedy manner. All this government’s efforts amount to are superficial attempts at plastering over a fundamental problem of woeful mismanagement, and the guaranteed result will be to raise prices for Nigerian consumers even higher than they already are.
Brilliant write up from both of you .
However you wrote ; move is far less sensible than it might appear.??
If we are not being economically with the truth , these moves ought to have been made some many many years Ago.
Sadly enough. Right from the start of our democratic dispensation none of our Brilliant minds at the helms of power “ - -thought about this or maybe they did .
— Tried to plan how to work decongesting the Lagos port so as to make all Region of the Federation benefit from it economically . maybe they did but it never came to fruition .
— maybe we did have a blueprint or drawings on paper maybe projects were paid for and commissioned .maybe .
Sadly enough our Supposed dullard of a President is making a ( move is far less sensible than it might appear. )??
As less sensible as the move is! It’s still a move that’s 20 years LATE” that our brilliant minds failed to achieve .
If they all had put in their best allowed transparencies and total commitment am sure by Now PMB won’t need to make this less sensible Move . And all the problems and disadvantages you mentioned would most likely have been dealt with or reduced to the barest minimum Only if this (move is far less sensible than it might appear ) was done some many years ago .
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by pacespot(m): 9:06am On Jan 30, 2020
Vortex369:
Time to go and build my warehouse.

Port traffic has forced the Kaduna Mafia to follow the voice of reasoning.

The beginning of economic revolution of defunct Biafra 1960-1963)

You people can't just do without making mention of Biafra, does this your mind tell you with all the economic opportunities that would be opened for Eastern people by this development? Can your Biafra stand alone if you are allowed to have self?
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Agboriotejoye(m): 9:11am On Jan 30, 2020
Tetehjewels:


Read and stop throwing spit everywhere abeg wailing zombie

https://www.nairaland.com/5655923/tolu-ogunlesis-tweets-revival-eastern
If you read the op you posted yourself, you will see it's written, "recent increase in congestion". It's there in the first line.
If you read further, you'll see they acknowledged that the eastern ports can't handle most of those vessels being redirected.
Read well and understand. This is not a planned decongestion as you've led yourself and other zombies to believe, this is an emergency solution to the increases in port congestion due to closure of the land borders.
Read what you posted yourself including the tolu tweets and another tweet underneath.
You don't need to claim what is not there.

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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by majamajic(m): 9:13am On Jan 30, 2020
DuxofMen:


Have you seen the sheer number of containers and trucks going out of Lagos on a daily basis? Yes, Lagos is a commercial centre but only a fraction of the imports are actually consumed here, the bulk are distributed round the country and even re-exported to other west African countries.


The SE importers know the port best to them , every importer knows the port best to him

Not about SE gaining here , do SE owns any of the port ?

The implications of utilisation the other ports is simply that, importers will invest in warehouses in those regions, thereby generating more commercial activities. I agree the SS stands to benefit but the SE as well. Please tell me which is closer to Aba, a major commercial hub in the SE, is it Apapa or Onne? Have you considered the gains in terms of exports of made in Aba goods from those regions if this works out. Methinks our brothers from the SE should actually be excited about this policy and do all within their means to make it work rather than them expressing all manners of condemnation and skepticism about it.
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by opray: 9:13am On Jan 30, 2020
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Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by CSTR2: 9:16am On Jan 30, 2020
Tetehjewels:


This also shows that there is now relative peace in the Niger Delta all thanks to the Osibanjo initiative
Initiative?

Can you tell me what that initiative was in the first place?
And also the position of the Niger delta before buhari came in with his divisiveness.

All these Yoruba clowns sef. Initiative grin
Re: NPA Begins Moving Commercial Vessels Out Of Lagos by Agboriotejoye(m): 9:17am On Jan 30, 2020
IamTallest:
The issue here is not a permanent one.they are only redirecting vessels which cannot berth at Lagos ports due to congestion as a result of border closure!!.....let that sink first.....
The real deal will come when vessels start going directly from europe,asia,America directly to the eastern ports without having to come to Lagos At All!!!.....
Are you aware that most of these vessels carrying goods at Lagos ports now are actually meant for importers residing in lagos....it will be difficult for them to go to Portharcourt or calabar to clear their goods.so its not a case to fully celebrate as its additional cost to the importers.

Let the government revive the eastern ports by declaring that any goods bound for the eastern region should be cleared at the eastern ports.dat is when we would roll out the drums and clap.dassol
See, they don't even need to declare anything. If those ports are working optimally as they need to, the rate of moving vessels to Lagos ports will reduce drastically.

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