isthatso:


Clearly Goodluck did not

https://www.thecable.ng/fg-awards-n206bn-contract-for-2nd-niger-bridge

https://punchng.com/fg-releases-n33bn-for-second-niger-bridge-project/

CHAI.

Awol1:
They are working so hard to gather points they'd consider enough to curry the Eastern votes in 2023.

But hey, I think I need to remind us that the Second Niger bridge was commissioned as Public Private Partnership Project.

What that means, as I remember president GEJ saying then, is that once the govt pays it's counterpart fund for the project, which Jonathan did, the project will go on irrespective of who is in power.

That's the truth they don't want us to remember.

No matter what you do for IPOB, they will find a way to belittle it and not show gratitude. They will forever keep lying to themselves all borne out of deep hate.

isthatso:


You are a complete MOR0N for saying that. I have never been a supporter of Saraki or PDP! there is nothing I have said to suggest so. your problem is you are indoctrinated by dogma, just like religious floowers, you are incapable of seperating fact from emotion. Once someo
ne is your person you dont see clearly.

You of course sound like the slowpoke for making silly claims without facts and knowledge, you are sitting here blabbing about Lagos Ibadan expressway and blaming Fashola, but clueless that other people like Saraki and the opposition slashed the budget and sabotaged the project.

All you do is lie and spew incorrect narratives.

Organs:



No matter what you do for IPOB, they will find a way to belittle it and not show gratitude. They will forever keep lying to themselves all borne out of deep hate.

When people are naturally sad, hateful, bitter and tribalistic, you can not please or satisfy them, they just remain hateful and bitter.

NGpatriot:



Why do you people lie to deceive, fool and miseducate yourselves?

Funding is 100% FG, no PPP funding andGEJ did no pay any counterpart nonsense.

Why not just tell us exactly how much Jonathan spent on the budget against the total cost and how much the so-called PPP partners paid?

Do you mind telling us why Jona promised to go on exile if he didn't complete the project by 2015 with all the PPP lies and counterpart funding they deserved you with for 16 years before PMB?

CHAI.

NGpatriot:


You of course sound like the slowpoke for making silly claims without facts and knowledge, you are sitting here blabbing about Lagos Ibadan expressway and blaming Fashola, but clueless that other people like Saraki and the opposition slashed the budget and sabotaged the project.

All you do is lie and spew incorrect narratives.

My friend , I hope you know you can shut me uop by just listing fasholas's accomplishments as a minister for 5 years. Every time i ask you to mention his acomplishments and each time you still have no shame still showing yourself with any list instead throwing insults. Ode! You are such a defender and yet you cant name any.

Let me explain something to you about governance. You achievements are based on what you conceived started or or what you completed.

You are either the brain behind something, you started it or you completed. Nobody remembers the man who did just a bit in the middle.

For instance Awo conceived OAU, but he wasnt the one who started or finished it.

What did fashola conceive start or and what did he complete? this matter is not hard. leave insults for motor park and deal in facts.

Amaechi

completed Abuja Kaduna,
Completed Itakpe Warri,
Completed Lagos -ibadan
Dredged River Niger
Completed A few federal airports


I have deliberately not mentioned the ones in conception stages, about to take off or ongoing because in Nigeria until a project has reached a deliverable stage it is not a project.

BTW how far with Fashola's metroline? what happenned to all the money, Mr i dont sign cheques?

I want you to know that Awo and everything you hear about the man and his accomplishments happennned in only 5 years!!! Amaechi has delivered in 5 years, it took him only 2 years to lay lagos ibadan tracks and that was even an overun. Golden boy, talk talk Super minister Fashola has been a minister for 5 years please list his accomplishments. thats all i ask!!! what did he start so someone else can finish, what did he conceive and lay the plans for, what did he complete

I am not a fan of Ambode but go to Epe and see what he did there in 4 years. Ordinary lekki express that Fashol executed every day they are making corrections, ozumba cannot rain, pothole will appear. Eko o ni baje my arse!!!

speaking English up and down the whole place "i dont sign cheques" yeye man!

Julius Berger are the only trust Nigeria company in times of construction.

isthatso:


Go to school for English lessons. I never said Lagos Ibadan rail has been delivered. Feel free to show me. What I said is that the rail has been completed, which is a remarkable feat considering this project was only started in 2017. The track is completed the trains are running, it is only the stations remaining. FAshola on the other hand inherited a project which was already approximately 50% complete when he became minister and their has been little progress. The other thing I said which you are free to prove me wrong is FAshola has not completed ANY meaningful project or come close to finishing any in his 5 years as minister. Furthermore he was a complete disaster as power minister...hence his removal.

I don’t know why the need for insults and how bigotry entered a debate about facts. I am Yoruba, if anything I suspect you are also Yoruba, this proving you are the bigot. As clearly you are more interested in defending tribe that facts.

Amaechi is a super achiever and the best minister Nigeria has had since 1999, FAshola has exposed himself as overrated...these are facts. FAshola has nothing on ground to show! Amaechi completed, Abuja Kaduna rail, has completed itakpe Warri rail, has commissioned airports, has more of less finished Lagos Ibadan and is already embarking on others, yet FAshola has yet to show a completed project.

Amaechi gets on with the job while FAshola is always giving one excuse or the other always blaming someone or the other. The truth is if you examine his performance level while governor of Lagos, his only major achievement was security and increasing IGR but what did he do with the IGR? You guess is as good as mine, a few token poor quality projects for a people used and content with mediocrity! . With the amount of money available to LASG, he was a monumental failure. He is now being exposed at the federal level.

Lagos -Ibadan expressway was not 50% as at May 2015, it was barely 10% completed. Where did you pull the 50% completion from. Don't argue with me, because my office was along the expressway, and i commute every fortnight from Ibadan to Lagos, and vice-versa. There are several housing projects completed within states. Fashola faced lots of pushback regarding the big works projects, because he tried prioritising projects based on geographical regions rather than states, and the National assembly in their typical foolishness wanted focus on states for projects that there were not even designed yet. Nigeria also witnessed terrible recession from 2016- part of 2018 that affected funds disbursement to budgeted projects. Don't turn situation on its head. I can bet there are lots of small wins made by Fashola in the power sector also.

NGpatriot:


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If you have any shame, then please dont quote me again in this thread unless you are listing fashola's achievements as minister

chinchum:


Lagos -Ibadan expressway was not 50% as at May 2015, it was barely 10% completed. Where did you pull the 50% completion from. Don't argue with me, because my office was along the expressway, and i commute every fortnight from Ibadan to Lagos, and vice-versa. There are several housing projects completed within states. Fashola faced lots of pushback regarding the big works projects, because he tried prioritising projects based on geographical regions rather than states, and the National assembly in their typical foolishness wanted focus on states for projects that there were not even designed yet. Nigeria also witnessed terrible recession from 2016- part of 2018 that affected funds disbursement to budgeted projects. Don't turn situation on its head. I can bet there are lots of small wins made by Fashola in the power sector also.

maybe my figure is random but the difference between that road in 2015 and today is not much. The work that was done pre 2015 is more than what has been done since

chinchum:


Lagos -Ibadan expressway was not 50% as at May 2015, it was barely 10% completed. Where did you pull the 50% completion from. Don't argue with me, because my office was along the expressway, and i commute every fortnight from Ibadan to Lagos, and vice-versa. There are several housing projects completed within states. Fashola faced lots of pushback regarding the big works projects, because he tried prioritising projects based on geographical regions rather than states, and the National assembly in their typical foolishness wanted focus on states for projects that there were not even designed yet. Nigeria also witnessed terrible recession from 2016- part of 2018 that affected funds disbursement to budgeted projects. Don't turn situation on its head. I can bet there are lots of small wins made by Fashola in the power sector also.

you are free to list them.


If people find it hard to list your achievements, it's probably because you dont have any. if you have to look for small wins, then ithat too is a sign your underperformed. You can give reasons, or excuses but underperformance is underperformance. Bottom line is there is nothing to show...There is no legacy, there is nothing that if he were to leave today he will be remmembered by!! This like it or not is a FACT!!

If you talk a good talk then you must walk a good walk.

You are only as good as your last achievements, ask Arsene Wenger or Mike Tyson. Even if you were once worth the hype, if you cannot bring that level of performance to today's task, you are past it as the very best.

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NGpatriot:


You of course sound like the slowpoke for making silly claims without facts and knowledge, you are sitting here blabbing about Lagos Ibadan expressway and blaming Fashola, but clueless that other people like Saraki and the opposition slashed the budget and sabotaged the project.

All you do is lie and spew incorrect narratives.

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NGpatriot:


When people are naturally sad, hateful, bitter and tribalistic, you can not please or satisfy them, they just remain hateful and bitter.

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isthatso:

maybe my figure is random but the difference between that road in 2015 and today is not much. The work that was done pre 2015 is more than what has been done since

Very incorrect. Up until i left my former work place late 2017. The most work done was in the year 2017. I don't know the current situation i must confess. But i was working along that expressway from 2012-2017. The rate of change in late 2016 to mid 2017 was massive. As at late 2017 the completion stage was like 50%. 2015, couldn't have been anything more than 10% completion factoring work done by Julius Berger and RCC.

chinchum:
Very incorrect. Up until i left my former work place late 2017. The most work done was in the year 2017. I don't know the current situation i must confess. But i was working along that expressway from 2012-2017. The rate of change in late 2016 to mid 2017 was massive. As at late 2017 the completion stage was like 50%. 2015, couldn't have been anything more than 10% completion factoring work done by Julius Berger and RCC.

I beg to differ! bottom line is Fashola who is always pontificating and telling others to think outside the box has no deliverables to show. I said it in 2015 in 2015 that the myth of fashola will be broken at the federal level and so it is proving. There are innovative ways to get funding for a road. After all where did Amaechi get money for his rail projects. But when you are more intrerested in "other benefits", sometimes you mind does not think clearly...i'll just leave it at that. Amaechi is a focused man, if one door closes he opens another, thats why he is delivering left right and center.

What happenned to Fashola's 4th mainland, Metroline, lekki express? why are they all failures? if you know you know!!

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NGpatriot:



Why do you people lie to deceive, fool and miseducate yourselves?

Funding is 100% FG, no PPP funding andGEJ did no pay any counterpart nonsense.

Why not just tell us exactly how much Jonathan spent on the budget against the total cost and how much the so-called PPP partners paid?

Do you mind telling us why Jona promised to go on exile if he didn't complete the project by 2015 with all the PPP lies and counterpart funding they deserved you with for 16 years before PMB?

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isthatso:


Like I said tell me what Fashola has completed after almost 5 years on the job. what did he achieve as minister of power. On going is ongoing, the country is full of ongoing projects some from 1970s. what has he completd, what are his achievements. I highlight fashola because he was the golden boy, remmember, he was the one everybody was touting. But i saw through it all and knew he would not perform because if you really examined and had inside knowledge of what really went on in lagos you will know Fashola was all hype.

Olodo go to fed min of work and housing twitter page, you'll see a lot of completed road and houses

isthatso:

true but the real difference is that at state level he will award a contract for 100m for 200m and they will add another 200m. you will get a shoddy 100m job that they billed the govt 400m for and you will be shouting eko o ni baje. If the monies that accrued to lagos were truly spent judiciously lagos will not be where it is today. Let's not forget just like that profilgate GEJ, Fashola also beenfited from High federal allocation and IGR.


PS; i am still waiting for you to name Fashola's achievements as minister both of power and of works. Just tell me this is the road Fashola completed., this is the amount of MW that was added to the grid under his administration. Everything else is just emotion. What has he done! i dont need excuses. Amaechi also faces the same senate!!

God bless you. I see no much difference between fashola and Jonathan. The both had the highest resources of any previous government but make so much noise for mediocre achievements.

isthatso:


you are free to list them.


If people find it hard to list your achievements, it's probably because you dont have any. if you have to look for small wins, then ithat too is a sign your underperformed. You can give reasons, or excuses but underperformance is underperformance. Bottom line is there is nothing to show...There is no legacy, there is nothing that if he were to leave today he will be remmembered by!! This like it or not is a FACT!!

If you talk a good talk then you must walk a good walk.

You are only as good as your last achievements, ask Arsene Wenger or Mike Tyson. Even if you were once worth the hype, if you cannot bring that level of performance to today's task, you are past it as the very best.

While this thread is more on the 2nd Niger Bridge, i follow the news to know that Major parts of the power sector has been privatised. However, i still see projects constructed and some commissioned in the power sector, He also developed a road map for the power sector. i know of the power projects across the Federal Universities in Nigeria to ensure they are self sufficient, some have been completed. I know of the Kaduna power plant, Gurara power projects have been completed. ,Zungeru dam projects, Mambilla power projects that are at different stages of completion, I know his effort to ensure that fixed charges are removed on Prepaid meters e.t.c Some projects will take time . He is a good planner, that i am certain of. The power ministry is no longer under his watch, but i hope the new Minister improves what he met on ground.

valarmorghulis:

Olodo go to fed min of work and housing twitter page, you'll see a lot of completed road and houses

I guess i deserve to be called an olodo. I can see there is a lot of work in progress all over the country. I guess Nigeria does not end in the SW where I am because as far as i was concerned i couldnt see anything he is doing. The only Federal road that affects my life Is lagos ibadan and the thing is a mess and Electricity under his reign was a mess. But having visited the FMW twitter page I will concede and eat humble pie, and acknowledge that he is actually working.

but he can always do better!!

isthatso:

I beg to differ! bottom line is Fashola who is always pontificating and telling others to think outside the box has no deliverables to show. I said it in 2015 in 2015 that the myth of fashola will be broken at the federal level and so it is proving. There are innovative ways to get funding for a road. After all where did Amaechi get money for his rail projects. But when you are more intrerested in "other benefits", sometimes you mind does not think clearly...i'll just leave it at that. Amaechi is a focused man, if one door closes he opens another, thats why he is delivering left right and center.

What happenned to Fashola's 4th mainland, Metroline, lekki express? why are they all failures? if you know you know!!

I don't know what axe you have to grind with Fashola as a person, You have failed to tell me how you arrived at the 50% completion before he came on board as works minister.
Fashola has shown lots of innovative ways to get funding for road projects as some roads . PPP arrangement with Dangote for tax waiver to construct Federal roads is one example, a federal executive order was signed to that effect.. I think you have failed to realise this because you have your personal issues with him.

valarmorghulis:

Olodo go to fed min of work and housing twitter page, you'll see a lot of completed road and houses

I have also been to the FMW website and clearly there are a lot of ongoing Federal projects, 7000km in totalthe problem i guess is that I think only 1 is completed. and very few are at an advanced stage of completion

nonetheless, I am pleasantly surprised

list of ongoing

https://worksandhousing.gov.ng/management/uploads_images/1562351340.pdf

chinchum:
I don't know what axe you have to grind with Fashola as a person, You have failed to tell me how you arrived at the 50% completion before he came on board as works minister.
Fashola has shown lots of innovative ways to get funding for road projects as some roads . PPP arrangement with Dangote for tax waiver to construct Federal roads is one example, a federal executive order was signed to that effect.. I think you have failed to realise this because you have your personal issues with him.

I never liked him as governor, overhyped, i beleive a lot of leakages happenned and a lot of the moneies that were meant for Public projects went into private hands, many of the project vastly inflated and of poor quality. For that I never bought into the hype. However, having visted the FMW webpage and twitter site and educated myself I think I can say without a shadow of doubt he is doing a good job at least as regards roads. It may not seem that way because he has not commisioned anything but there are clearly a lot of ongoing road projects. over 7000km, thats nothing to sniff at, if they get completed.

BTW completion of Lagos-ibadan is approx 45% even today according to the official figures from FMW

wirinet:


Nobody said Jonathan paid nothing for the bridge.
What you said is;


We are asking you to show evidence that Jonathan did pay FG's counterpart funds for the project, and so the projects would go on irrespective of who is in power, and you now changing tone by now taking about paying nothing.

I am not the person on your quote, @ least you admit he paid something. Like I said Government is a continuum, in the end it's neither Jonathan nor Buhari paying for the bridge, no be their papa money. you and I would directly and indirectly bear the cost through taxation and tolls.

isthatso:


I have also been to the FMW website and clearly there are a lot of ongoing Federal projects, 7000km in totalthe problem i guess is that I think only 1 is completed. and very few are at an advanced stage of completion

nonetheless, I am pleasantly surprised

list of ongoing

https://worksandhousing.gov.ng/management/uploads_images/1562351340.pdf

What about jebba makwa Road, oga forget about ur hatred for fashola and visit ministry of works twitter page(media) you'll see a lot of works going on, how many railway is amechi constructing? Fashola is constructing more than 100 roads across Nigeria with limited funds compared to amechi that already have d money he needed.
Just say u hate fashola

valarmorghulis:

What about jebba makwa Road, oga forget about ur hatred for fashola and visit ministry of works twitter page(media) you'll see a lot of works going on, how many railway is amechi constructing? Fashola is constructing more than 100 roads across Nigeria with limited funds compared to amechi that already have d money he needed.
Just say u hate fashola

What is this one saying, did your parents not warn you not to poke your nose when your elders are talking....can you not read?

isthatso:


What is this one saying, did your parents not warn you not to poke your nose when your elders are talking....can you not read?

U r not serious

Ojiofor:


Jonathan is better forgotten when it comes to projects in Eastern Nigeria during his administration.

Igbos still admire him.,

Blackeuropean:
This bridge no dey finish?

Na 100 years project oh