₦airaland Forum

MelesZenawi:
You said you are going to talk..

Who is holding you.....talk..or you no want talk again

" I don't want to start "....how do you understand this?
We never trouble trouble until trouble troubles us....

mildflame:
" I don't want to start "....how do you understand this? We never trouble trouble until trouble troubles us....

Story story story
If you don't have any make up story then shut it.

If una like, make una quarrel from now till next year, everyone in Nigeria knows that Calabar people and Akwa Ibom na the same thing. You can only confuse yourselves not the rest Nigerians.

MelesZenawi:
Story story story

If you don't have any make up story then shut it.

Go 4k urself toad

joecrack:
I meant majority in population in present day Cross River State.

Secondly, Akwaibomites cannot dominate Atams, unfortunately the Efiks will suffer for all this because of the language similarities and the fact that they share same affinity with y'all, so it is easy to claim origins from there but that in itself lies a problem because the Atams who actually control the state will at every opportunity deny the Efik man rights because he feels that man might be an Akwaibomite, safe for the real Efiks.

Make no mistake, if you think Ayade is returning power to the Efiks then you're dreaming, from what I've heard and the scheming going on, an Efik man won't become the next governor. The present crop of Politicians from the Atam axis are actually Machiavellians, don't worry, you'll see what will unfold.

On State creation, Ogoja State will have been but not for the political wranglings amongst their kin, that is a long story I won't want to dive in.

power is returning to the efiks, even if you give an akampa man, it's still like giving an Akwa ibomite my dear. So who will they give it to, biase? Bro relax, unless they want the state to burn then let them try anything funny with the zoning arrangements. If not for state creation where would the so called atam machavallians be? Mtchewww. Rest bro, like I said na turn by turn. Also it seems like you guys are more interested in sharing money and fighting Akwa ibomites and efiks than developing the state. I was born in calabar, I still live here, the state is a shadow of itself, after Donald left everything collapsed, ayade is just making things worse, although we're quarreling here i can never pass by an argument where CRS is being casted aand i dont answer such a person violently. Y'all should equally expend the same energy u use in fighting us to develop crs. Rn Akwa Ibom is far ahead of Cross river in many areas.

MelesZenawi:
Cross river landlocked?

Are you okay

Mumu I know you're looking for who to throw your tribal rant's at. I said central and nothern cross river is landlocked without the efiks. Go and get reading lenses

Mizwisdom:
What are you claiming? who will allow you foreigners to dominate CRS? lol since your
state was created you have been treated as outcast in CRS, even when you people through mischief claimed Efik and remained in civil service it was an Efik man that fished you out and most of you were sacked. Just like the recent Okada bann is an attempt to reduce Hausa population in Lagos same way alok alok was banned by anEfik man Donald Duke to reduce population of Akbmyts in Calabar, up till today. Who told you Efiks are fools? brother my foot! you're disliked by Efiks and NCRSn quit deceiving yourselves, if an Efik becomes governor you will see how life will be harder for you, thieves. You grab oil wells and still claim brotherhood odiogonofi

You didn't even reply the challenge, that's what you're good at, sharing money and position without doing anything tangible, like ayade like mizwisdom. Seems like it's an atam thing. You keep shouting Don did this and that, did he succeed? You have Akwa ibomites as commissioners, SAs and other government post currently in CRS so how successful have you been in caging us? Dumb ass , also given the fact that power has been with u guys for 16 year's you're still having headache over us. Mbom eti eti

pls dnt drag IGBO into this. we all know how you kill your self in the name of odin,korofu. you bnt be ordinary youth leader in south south without being a cultis mbuk ndi idu ndi mmwong

joecrack:
The events that played out between yesterday and today is indeed a shame and one which sadly I dare say I am disappointed that my state, known for it's peaceful and loving people have decided to toe the path of crass nepotism in blocking a woman who although is not a Crossiverien by birth, happens to be married to a Crossiverien, ironically her mother is a Crossiverien and she was born and had lived all her life in Cross River which typically would mean she's "a daughter of the soil".

But people who are not Crossiveriens will be shocked that this rivalry will get to this level seeing Cross River and Akwa Ibom use to be one State. As a Crossiverien who was not born nor grew up home, this surprise struck me when I went to school in Calabar during my University days, I was shocked at the staunch hatred between indigenes of both States and for the purpose of clarity I must confess that this enmity is in two folds; hatred by the Efiks in Cross River towards their supposed brothers from the Ibibio and Anang stock in Akwa Ibom, this of course is vice versa and also a strong disdain from Northern and Central Crossiveriens towards Akwaibomites and for the purpose of record is also a mutual feeling.

The Efiks are largely easy going folks some may say docile but one thing is sure, they take life very easy and tend towards enjoying themselves and being jolly, in contrast, a typical man from Akwa Ibom is a hustler, very indoustrous, boisterous and domineering. Their adventurous nature has seen them become popular in places like Calabar South LGA, in fact folks from Akwa Ibom make up 60% of population in Calabar South. There is this joke in Calabar that during the days of Donald Duke, he went to visit a village in the Akpabuyo LGA, he asked for the Chief of the community and surprisingly he was told that the Chief went to his Village in Akwa Ibom, how ironic that an "outsider" is royalty in another man's village. These adventurous attitude and of course coupled with land grabbing expeditions by folks from Akwa Ibom brewed wrangling between the Efiks and their brothers from Akwa Ibom. Asides this, because of the the language similarities, most people from Akwa Ibom became mischievous and used that to their advantage by forging local government origins so as to get employment, admission and other gratifications from Cross River, deep down in them, they claim allegiance to Akwa Ibom but will also claim one village in either Calabar South, Odukpani or Akpabuyo when looking for perks.

On the one hand you have Central and Northern Cross River, these are ethnicities which are quite different in languages and culture from the Efiks and Akwaibomites, they had been tagged derogatory name as the Atams (whatever that means) by the Efiks and their brothers from Akwa Ibom, they, though being in majority had suffered marginalisation from time immemorial when the both States were one. These people also have a disdain towards Akwaibomites basically as a fight back towards undue entitlement mentality from Akwaibomites of either jobs, admission and benefits that comes with government. Typically, the Atam man hates the Akwa Ibom man just as in the same vain the Akwa Ibom man hates the Atam man. The Atam man which also sees himself as also boisterous and even adventurous in equal measure feels they must do everything it takes to push the Akwa Ibom man out because left to the Efiks, Akwaibomites will overun the whole Calabar and that’s why unfortunately the biggest losers in all of these are the Efiks, because due to the control of political office by folks from the Central and Northern Cross River for over 12 years now, concentration of government perks either by appointment, infrastructure, jobs, admission etc is given to people more from Northern and Central Cross River because the notion is that, that Efik man you want to give an opportunity, how sure are you he’s not from Akwa Ibom? This disdain is further fuelled by the fact that Crossiveriens are hardly given opportunities in Akwa Ibom. In the civil service, admission, contracts even at the level of academics, our children can’t even contest for Class Rep positions not to talk of the SUG, in fact there was an incident of one Prof. Unoh who wanted to be VC of University of Uyo, he was threatened till he was even shot at, sadly his driver died just because his colleagues from Akwa Ibom did not want him to emerge.
A twist to this bickering is the lost of oil wells belonging to Cross River by a “smart” Godswill Akpabuyo, right under the nose of Crossiveriens, Godswill in a typical sense man style used the National Boundary Commission to cart away oil wells belonging to Cross River while the then Governor of Cross River State was monkeying away. This singular act further heitened the tension between the two states because Crossiveriens saw it as an act of wickedness from her sister state and supposed child to want to steal her birthright and plunging her into poverty more so when Akwa Ibom has hundreds of oil wells.
Today in terms of oil allocation, Akwa Ibom gets the largest in the Country, Cross River is left with none, buy yet you have thousands of Akwaibomites living in Cross River, these people have to also share infrastructure provided by the Cross River State government yet, she was robbed of her wealth by Akwa Ibom.

So, these frictions have been going on and the event of the Chief Judge has further highlighted the rivalry between these States, but this is not to say there is no love, I will only say it’s a love-hate relationship because we are stucked with ourselves, there is intermarriage going on amongst us everyday, we interact at level of school and all that but the relationship has reached one where one looks at the other with suspicious eyes.
There are those who also believe that the decision not to allow Justice Ikpeme be the substantive Chief Judge is Political. Local Government Elections are just behind the corner, perhaps Gov Ayade does not want to take any chance and feels Ikpeme won’t play ball with him so he decided to push her away to give way for the next most senior Judge who happens to be from his senatorial district.
It should be worthy to note that the Speaker of the CRS House of Assembly (who gave a veto vote because voting proceedings to confirm Justice Ikpeme saw the election into a tie because 8 legislators were on the fence, 8 voted YES while another 8 voted NO, the Speaker’s vote voided the application) wife is from Akwa Ibom, infact about 4 members in the House Spouces are from Akwa Ibom.
In all, let love always lead and let us have the ability to tolerate ourselves. I’m this regard I doff my hat for the South West, they lead when it comes to tolerance, we all should learn from them.

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My brother u really know it well, when I came over to Unical to school from Lagos I was taken aback
In Lagos I lived in an environ where my Yoruba friends the Ajayi's and Vera cruz weren't able to speak their mother tongue (Yoruba) even chika, okonta preye same thing
I really was shocked to d bone what I saw inside a citadel of learning
Only Lagos in Nigeria is above board, whatever is playing out right now is politics. The judiciary arm is far better than the legislative and executive arms in Nigeria but now the politicians are trying to infiltrate it and the spiral effects is what we r witnessing
As for the oil wells given to Akwa Ibom, I wished Akwa Ibom had a better and sensitive governor then, how many wells were they compare to what you already had
I hope enlightenment and awareness continue to dawn each passing day on the youths of both States so as to avoid the steps of our politicians

Beachside:
A united and progressive Calabar (Akwacross) is preferred ,but for now I feel Akwa ibom can not be trusted. They think they have it all just due to baseless and unsustainable tangible development and 90 percent offshore oil which Uyo and Ikot ekepene have none of . They breed like rabbits and multiply poverty everywhere ,and they are not looking to unite,assimilate or accept Efik Calabarian methods as the standard and official.
I support denial of the Akwa ibom judge and the appointment of the judge as long as he is from Cross river. that's why there should be ID database to separate wheat from chaff.
On another thread, an akwa ibom individual was bragging that he was born and raised in calabar and ibibio will take over. His Allegiance is to Akwa ibom ,not cross river.
I am American born and raised and mixed race and I qualify to be Governor of Cross river than that guy . it's about roots ,not born and raised.
I don't care if an individual was born and lived ,school and worked all his life in Calabar, you are not from there and should be expelled if you do not pay allegiance to Calabar methods.
There will be no seaport at Akwa ibom within the next 30 years . The only seaport on plan within the next 4 years is the Calabar seaport at Akpabuyo which will serve the entire cross river and the Greater Calabar area including Akwa ibom.
Apart from English ,Efik is the standard and official language of the Cross river and Akwa ibom ,and is in the process of being registered by google.
If Akwa ibom does not agree with these methods, all akwa ibom people should be expelled from cross river and a border wall built., all other mthods will be implemented to punish Akwa ibom forever.

Do you know that over 70 of our ( CROSS RIVERIAN) oil wells were given to them ( AKWA-IBOMITE) by Jonathan?

simeotexy:
I didn't know cross riverians to be this dumb,,I always took an efik man to be our brother but u have showed me that efik people are the dumbest people on earth,spits

she's atam not efik

cenaman:
Do you know that over 70 of our ( CROSS RIVERIAN) oil wells were given to them ( AKWA-IBOMITE) by Jonathan?

Why are most dummies in Nigeria flame with crude oil?

Mikekan30:
I never knew that even in your most advanced methods and so call developed country, you still potray some sense of myopic foolishness. .
Are Cross riverians this DUMB

The dumbest people are those who thought certain peeps from Cross River are not dumb. There is one Florence Ita-Giwa.

justtoodark:
i was born in ph and i still dont give a f about biafra....

And you freaking think anybody does?

Duru1:
And you freaking think anybody does?

abegi,biafra is just another disaster....

justtoodark:
abegi,biafra is just another disaster....

Who gives a ratass about Biafra and disaster? I am strictly for the Crown Republic of Igbo land.

Duru1:
Who gives a ratass about Biafra and disaster? I am strictly for the Crown Republic of Igbo land.

wtf is that....??
you dont even know where it starts and end....

people are already draggin borders with una....

Beachside:
A united and progressive Calabar (Akwacross) is preferred ,but for now I feel Akwa ibom can not be trusted. They think they have it all just due to baseless and unsustainable tangible development and 90 percent offshore oil which Uyo and Ikot ekepene have none of . They breed like rabbits and multiply poverty everywhere ,and they are not looking to unite,assimilate or accept Efik Calabarian methods as the standard and official.
I support denial of the Akwa ibom judge and the appointment of the judge as long as he is from Cross river. that's why there should be ID database to separate wheat from chaff.
On another thread, an akwa ibom individual was bragging that he was born and raised in calabar and ibibio will take over. His Allegiance is to Akwa ibom ,not cross river.
I am American born and raised and mixed race and I qualify to be Governor of Cross river than that guy . it's about roots ,not born and raised.
I don't care if an individual was born and lived ,school and worked all his life in Calabar, you are not from there and should be expelled if you do not pay allegiance to Calabar methods.
There will be no seaport at Akwa ibom within the next 30 years . The only seaport on plan within the next 4 years is the Calabar seaport at Akpabuyo which will serve the entire cross river and the Greater Calabar area including Akwa ibom.
Apart from English ,Efik is the standard and official language of the Cross river and Akwa ibom ,and is in the process of being registered by google.
If Akwa ibom does not agree with these methods, all akwa ibom people should be expelled from cross river and a border wall built., all other mthods will be implemented to punish Akwa ibom forever.

Dude, where's this hate and jealousy coming from??!

justtoodark:
wtf is that....??
you dont even know where it starts and end....

people are already draggin borders with una....

How the fvck would you know?

Duru1:
How the fvck would you know?

i know....

justtoodark:
wtf is that....??
you dont even know where it starts and end....

people are already draggin borders with una....

People like who exactly?
The biggest disaster is the rubbish I'm seeing in tho skewed thread and the awry in house decriminalisation but your senseless lots will bring Igbo that have no fukcing business here, won't you?

Beachside:
I support the denial of the akwa ibom judge , and I think all Akwa ibom people should be expelled from Cross river because of divisive Akwa ibom people like you and the others on the first and second page saying there's no such thing as Akwacross and that Efik ibibio,Oron anang are not one . All your posts on nairaland are concentrated on how ibibio is different from Efik and are not one .
All my post on all three accounts I've ever had has always been about unity ,but I've had enough now..
I think all the anger should be directed at you guys who think there's no such thing as Akwacross and they are not one . If they are not one , why are you salty about judge being denied ?
Cross river is 3 times larger than Akwa ibom. Cross river lost 79 oil wells to Akwa ibom. Akwa ibom receives $55 million dollars per month while Cross river receives $9 million dollars per month. There are thousands of Akwa ibom people living in Cross river ,but there's not up to 200 people from cross river living in Akwa ibom, yet Akwa ibom brags , and also rejects Akwacrosss unity. Think about that one .
Who said Efik and ibibio were recently coined terms? You do not read to understand, you read to find faults and criticize. I've carefully read and reasoned with every single thing you wrote ,but you haven't done the same. The problem lies in the fact that you think ibibio or Efik is a distinct ethnic group like Igbo or Yoruba, when in fact ibibio is a community and dialect just like Ngwa is community and dialect. Efik is community and dialect. ( Ibibio ,Efik,Oron,Annang) make up an ethnic group with no official umbrella term . Igbo is an umbrella term which was coined about 50 years ago for related communities and dialects like Ngwa,Onicha,Nsukka,etc.
(Efik ,Ibibio,Oron,Eket,Annang) are Calabarians or Akwacross or Efik/Ibibio . (Ngwa,Onicha,Nsukka,Ikwerre,Owerre,Abakiliki,Idemili,Aro ) are Igbos . The same is true for all ethnicity on earth.
Stop propagating baseless claims saying Ibibio is distinct ethnic group,Efik is distinct ethnic group ,Annang is distinct ethnic group, and vice versa.
All of that division makes the Efik/ibibio people weak and docile. Everyone is laughing at Efik/ibibio foolishness. 90 percent of those who liked your comments are enemies who wish to see a divided and conquered Akwacross people . Oil does not last forever .
I admit my first comment on this thread was mean, but that was in reaction to previous antagonistic comments from some Akwa ibom monikers.

Really The oil wells in Ibeno-Eket should have been for Cross River state Yet those are in Ibibioland So Igbo was coined in 1970 to represent all Igbo speaking groups, yet those groups have names with Igbo from centuries ago names begining and ending with Igbo. E.g. Igbokwe,IgboUkwu etc. I will leave Igbos to answer that.
U don't even understand the basic differences between Efik, Ibibios and Annang, simply because they speak a similar langauge, you think they split form each other I gave example of Spanish, French and Italian because thou those groups speak similar langauges, they're are not the same due to their different cultures. Do U know how the Efik name came about and the true meaning of that name If they were truly 1 with Ibibios Y
What U refused to READ to understand despite my giving u the link to a thread where someone asked this question to undesrstand Y?
Efik, Annang and Ibibio might be speaking a pigin language of a sort mixed with their orignal languages, which is why some words are completely different like the Feces example I gave. Unlike the Igbo groups & Yoruba groups who despite speaking different dialects they all practice same traditions and have same beliefs. Whereas Efiks and Oron have more in common with some Cameroun groups like Ejagham, which they have admited that they migrated from Cameroun. Annang including their name and some of their matriachal cultures migrated from Ghana.
These groups just migrated to live next to Ibibio or were hosted by a small group of Ibibio(uruan) and adopted a few Ibibio traditions like Uruan adopted lots from Efik. Now U believe they split from each other If U Read the thread I gave U, you would've understood all as the people from those grous came to expalin their cultures & traditions. WHAT IS MY BUISNESS WITH THE DENIAL OF THE AKS JUDGE

Blackking98:
power is returning to the efiks, even if you give an akampa man, it's still like giving an Akwa ibomite my dear. So who will they give it to, biase? Bro relax, unless they want the state to burn then let them try anything funny with the zoning arrangements. If not for state creation where would the so called atam machavallians be? Mtchewww. Rest bro, like I said na turn by turn. Also it seems like you guys are more interested in sharing money and fighting Akwa ibomites and efiks than developing the state. I was born in calabar, I still live here, the state is a shadow of itself, after Donald left everything collapsed, ayade is just making things worse, although we're quarreling here i can never pass by an argument where CRS is being casted aand i dont answer such a person violently. Y'all should equally expend the same energy u use in fighting us to develop crs. Rn Akwa Ibom is far ahead of Cross river in many areas.

Hundreds of thousands of Akwa Ibom people still live in Calabar and many lie to outsiders that they're Efiks but how many CR people live in your State? what is stopping people from migrating to AKB despite infrastructure put in place by Akpabio? your place isn't comparable to CRS in terms of livability and this includes way of life of indigenous people. You cant compare the hospitable nature of people from CRS to AKBmyts, it's incomparable, that's why despite our meagre allocation many of your tribes men and women run to CRS for safety because they fear their fellow AKBmyt wickedness. Another thing is IQ, many are used as domestic helpers here in CRS since poverty and illiteracy has been major problems bedeviling your state. it's hilarious how you are waiting anxiously for Efik to rule, Efik know better and they won't even disturb themselves because they understand that most of you want to mischievously use this as a means to get into CRS govt house . You people are too damn wicked, even after many oil wells stolen you still had to get 79 more belonging to CRS, by God's grace we shall see how you will succeed with your plan here. Go and install AKB in govt house na key board warrior.

cross riverians need to change their mindsets, they need to develop themselves, pride without education is nothing.

its high time they understood that akwaibomites own the state.

there was no qualifed cross riverian for that position.

ibibiogrl:
Really The oil wells in Ibeno-Eket should have been for Cross River state Yet those are in Ibibioland So Igbo was coined in 1970 to represent all Igbo speaking groups, yet those groups have names with Igbo from centuries ago names begining and ending with Igbo. E.g. Igbokwe,IgboUkwu etc. I will leave Igbos to answer that.
U don't even understand the basic differences between Efik, Ibibios and Annang, simply because they speak a similar langauge, you think they split form each other I gave example of Spanish, French and Italian because thou those groups speak similar langauges, they're are not the same due to their different cultures. Do U know how the Efik name came about and the true meaning of that name If they were truly 1 with Ibibios Y
What U refused to READ to understand despite my giving u the link to a thread where someone asked this question to undesrstand Y?
Efik, Annang and Ibibio might be speaking a pigin language of a sort mixed with their orignal languages, which is why some words are completely different like the Feces example I gave. Unlike the Igbo groups & Yoruba groups who despite speaking different dialects they all practice same traditions and have same beliefs. Whereas Efiks and Oron have more in common with some Cameroun groups like Ejagham, which they have admited that they migrated from Cameroun. Annang including their name and some of their matriachal cultures migrated from Ghana.
These groups just migrated to live next to Ibibio or were hosted by a small group of Ibibio(uruan) and adopted a few Ibibio traditions like Uruan adopted lots from Efik. Now U believe they split from each other If U Read the thread I gave U, you would've understood all as the people from those grous came to expalin uttheir cultures & traditions. WHAT IS MY BUISNESS WITH THE DENIAL OF THE AKS JUDGE

with respect to both of your the dialects are not entirely similar, there are differences in them.

also the cultures of the people involved are different, cross river may have a larger land mass, but akwaibom has the greater population, they re daring, industrious and travel out to other states, cross riverians are conservative on the other hand, thats why they lose their slots to akwaibomites even at the federal level.

MarvelousMe:
Dude, where's this hate and jealousy coming from??!

Am telling these atam people are filled with hatred,sebi ayade na governor now what has he done for his peoples compare to what rule did for those louzy poor ogojas

quentin06:
with respect to both of your the dialects are not entirely similar, there are differences in them.

also the cultures of the people involved are different, cross river may have a larger land mass, but akwaibom has the greater population, they re daring, industrious and travel out to other states, cross riverians are conservative on the other hand, thats why they lose their slots to akwaibomites even at the federal level.

The ogoja's are always too jealous of the efik/ibibio

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Tomorrow we will blame Buhari for being tribalistic meanwhile we are all like Buhari

Abegi do not make excuses for Bubu's primitive tribalism because some other people are just as primordial...smh
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simeotexy:
I didn't know cross riverians to be this dumb,,I always took an efik man to be our brother but u have showed me that efik people are the dumbest people on earth,spits

No o,the lousy dude is ogoja not efik oohhh

otuekong1:
The ogoja's are always too jealous of the efik/ibibio

Why do you guys the yourselves in that state

simeotexy:
me am from aks ND I thought so but this crs surprised me

Its an ogoja coined dirty politics played by ayade the 1 trillion naira budget governor (scammers)

densiks:
There are some points raised in the mixed write ups that are inconsistent with facts and accurate historical records.

My intention is not to argue but to deepen the conversation if necessary on nairaland or other platforms.

I have a relative who is married to someone from eastern obolo,so when I write about their culture,I speak from first hand knowledge and I understand that culture includes but is not limited to marital rites,food and socio-economic practices hence the emphasis on similarly of culture.

I have previously sought expert information from established linguists who studied ibibio/Efik language and it is established that a wider reference of the groupings havevthe same root language but dialectical differences.

I am ibibio by grouping and I appreciate some of the points captured in the posts you put up but I must point out that some of the information there are either inaccurate or written by people with a limited knowledge of the original history and evolving practices amongst the various groupings.

It is heartwarming to know you love your people and you like to identify with their rich history and culture.

Kudos eyeneka.

Do you know that Obolo is split into 2parts? Half is in Rivers state and the other half is in Akwa Ibom state;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obolo_people
I had previously stated that I grew up in Calabar and Abak, my maternal grandfather grew up from childhood in Efikland. So my mom was partly raised in Efik culture, do you know that there are typical Efik names from their market days? So I am not just speaking without investigation or arguing for arguement sake. How did you think I learned how to speak both Efik and Annang languages besides my native Ibibio fluently
If U Read the thread I gave you, u will see that many natives Annangs and Efiks had confirmed and also given their input.
If you truly want to learn about all these groups in details U better READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo