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Pauladex:
May God forgives this guy for my sin. I laughed out so laud that people in church taught i was possessed. May God forgives u guy.

called2Bsaint:
20 Points We Can Glean from 1Corinthians 14 About Speaking in Tongues in the Church are listed below:

Point #1 (Verse 1) Prophesying is preferable because it is charitable, unlike speaking in tongues, which no man in the church understands.

Point #2 (Verse 2) By speaking in an unknown tongue you do not to speak to men, but unto God: because no man understands what you are speaking, even though you're speaking mysteries in the spirit.

Point #3 (Verses 3-4) Speaking in tongues in the church gathering is not useful to the church, because it only edifies the speaker; but the church cannot understand the words of the tongue or language. But prophesying edifies the church because through it we can speak unto men for their edification, exhortation, and comfort. The church gathering is not for speaking to God alone, but also for speaking to one another (Ephesians 5:19). Therefore, to speak to God alone and not to men in the gathering of saints shows lack of spiritual order. If when we come together in fellowship we turn our backs against ourselves to speak to God alone, we abuse the purpose of corporate worship. If we must speak alone to God, it should be in our private worship, as our Lord has taught us in Matthew 6:5 and 6.

Point #4 (Verse 5) Paul preferred that all the church would rather prophesy than to speak in unknown tongues, because speaking with tongues is less than prophesying, except it is accompanied by interpretation so that the church may receive edifying.

Point #5 (Verse 6) Speaking with tongues to men does not profit them, only speaking to them by revelation, knowledge, prophesying, or by doctrine that can edify them.

Point #6 (Verse 7) Even lifeless objects, such as pipe or harp, which produce sound are more useful or intelligible than speaking tongues that do not give a distinction in the sounds made to the ears of men.

Point #7 (Verse A degree of certainty and distinctiveness of meaning is required in every sound given in the church to build up, equip and perfect the saints for their spiritual life's battles.

Point #8 (Verse 9) You can utter by the tongue words easy to be understood; and except you do so you would be speaking into the air. Mark this term, "to speak into the air". It refers to the same exercise that is termed "to speak not unto men but to God", "to speak to yourself and to God". This is not a commendable exercise in the church gathering, where we come together to speak to one another, as well as to ourselves and God.

Point #9 (Verse 10) All the many kinds of tongues in the world are with signification or meanings. This is a clear evidence that Paul was not treating the voices or tongues of angels, as some would wish he was doing in this chapter.

Point #10 (Verse 11) Speaking in tongues to men who do not understand the tongues makes you a barbarian to them and them a barbarian to you.

Point #11 (Verse 12-13) The zeal for spiritual gifts is insufficient for the church gathering, except it seeks to excel in edifying the church. Therefore the person that speaks in an unknown tongue should pray that he may interpret.

Point #12 (Verse 14-17) When you pray in an unknown tongue in the church meeting, your spirit prays, but your understanding bears no fruit to the church; thus they will not be able to say "Amen" to what they do not understand, even though you do give thanks well in the language you employ. To solve this problem you have to make sure that your understanding bears fruit to the church while your spirit is praying to God.

Point #13 (Verse 18-19) Paul spoke with tongues more than all the Corinthians; thus it is clear that he was not rebuking them because he was unable to speak in tongues. Speaking in tongues more than them could either be quantitatively or qualitatively; whichever it was, Paul was discrete enough to rather speak five words that could be understood in the church, so that he might teach others also with his speech, than to employ ten thousand words in an unknown tongue that they would not understand.

Point #14 (Verse 20-22) Many Brethren are children in the understanding of this matter of tongues because they fail to understand that tongues are for a sign, not to believers, but to unbelievers; whereas, prophesying is not for the unbelievers, but for the believers. This point should shame those who push for tongues as a prayer language for believers.

Point #15 (Verse 23-25) If all the speakers in the church speak with tongues, and there are any unlearned persons, or unbelievers there, they will say that the congregation is full of mad men. But if every speaker prophesies or preaches the gospel by the power of the Holy Spirit, the unbeliever will be convicted and judged by all of them, through their preaching; and the secrets of the heart of the unsaved are thus made manifest by the plainness of the anointed preaching; so that he falls down on his face and worships God, and reports that God is in the church of a truth!

Point #16 (Verse 26) Every spiritual activity in the meetings of the saints should be done unto edifying of all.

Point #17 (Verse 27-28) Speaking in an unknown tongue in the church should be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, let the person who intends to speak in tongues KEEP SILENCE in the church; and speak to himself, and to God. Speaking to himself and to God in the church should not be to the hearing of men otherwise he would be disobeying the instruction to keep silence. This is a clear prohibition of speaking unknown tongues in the church without interpretation.

Point #18 (Verse 29) The prophets are to speak by two or three, just like the speakers of unknown tongues, and the other is to judge the prophecy. This includes the interpretation of tongues, which is placed on equal rank with prophesying.

Point #19 (Verse 30-33, 40) Orderliness should be maintained in Christian meetings.

Point #20 (Verse 39-40) We should covet or desire strongly for the gift of prophesying, and not forbid to speak with tongues, provided it obeys the conditions already given in this chapter, in order to maintain orderliness and decency in the church gatherings.

DavidEsq:
If tongues is a heavenly language as u claim, why does the Bible at 2 Corinthians 13:8-11 say that there would a time when tongues would cease? Wouldn't that mean that there would be no language in heaven again, when the time comes for tongues to cease?

Bigval5:
Oga nothing like that in 2 Corinthians 13:8-11

sekeyso:
You guys are mixing things up here...there's a different between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues. Speaking in tongues needs an interpreter while praying in tongues needs no interpretation. Speaking in tongues is a rare gift, What most Christians do is praying in tongues. Rom 8 :26 says we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in human words. When you one allows the Holy spirit to pray through them, the result is the seemingly "meaningless" words.

DavidEsq:
It's 1 Corinthians. Thanks. It's read am:
"Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with".
Pls kindly quote your own Bible version, let's reason and sharpen ourselves

sekeyso:
You guys are mixing things up here...there's a different between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues. Speaking in tongues needs an interpreter while praying in tongues needs no interpretation. Speaking in tongues is a rare gift, What most Christians do is praying in tongues. Rom 8 :26 says we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in human words. When you one allows the Holy spirit to pray through them, the result is the seemingly "meaningless" words.

Offpoint:
I remember that year I went to a Program and the invited guest speaker after preaching gave prayer points titled "Operation you must speak in tongues"

Those who can speak were asked to step backwards and those who can't forward.
That's when the whole church started prayers that lasted almost 3 hours, preacher said everyone must speaks in tongue.

After 2hrs everyone has spoken in tongues, whom I knew some fake it o...
I was the only one left o, that was how the entired church gathered around and starts bombarding me with prayers o.

30 minutes, no signs... preacher touch me, anoint me, push me, blow me breeze... no signs.
For my mind: God which can wahala be this? pity me now, even na just 5 seconds make I speak am... abi na so demons plenty for my body reach wey entire church gather for my head for over an hour and nothing show?
God abeg pity My life.

After over an hour the preacher man was like: The devil is liar, he must release you, I can see the spirit of tongues in you.
Me in my mind "You're right sir, I speak 7 languages"

After another 20 Minutes, preacher was like: See me after service.

Another questioning and prayers sessions after service o.


Tongues are mostly what Nigerians use to cover up when they ran out prayer points.

I've always question the logic of speaking a language nobody understands in church, a language not even you the speaker understands.... then what are you telling God when even you yourself don't understand?

I think the tongue of the Pentecostal Day was the only thing I found reasonable, what Nigerians are speaking is not tongues

I stopped taking them serious when I realized those who speaks in tongues, all of them individually all have one pattern they speak... you can't be telling God sake things since time immemorial.

Prayer for healing: oshe prapra robototo Mali kakobuyaya Toire

Prayer for protection: oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

Prayer for Devine blessings: oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

All prayer points:
oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

seriously?

Funny part some said they speak in tongues to confuse the devil
Devil who was once an heavenly citizen told them he doesn't understand heaven ly tongues

Jobabori:
So you were reading on nairaland when church service was going on.

IamgratefulLord:
See your mouth!! May God forgive you and open your eyes of understanding into spiritual Truth!!

luvinhubby:
That is not true. I speak in tongues and am not a fake minister.

lastchild:
you are a canal being

Offpoint:
Nobody has ever spoken in tongues before Jesus was born, nobody spoke in tongues when Jesus was on earth, this tongues of thing was after Jesus death... the purpose of tongues was to preach to foreigners in their own language.

wildlife9999:
this tongue of a this is African way of preaching. I always look at western world who brought this religion to Africa they don't practice the way we do

called2Bsaint:
20 Points We Can Glean from 1Corinthians 14 About Speaking in Tongues in the Church are listed below:

Point #1 (Verse 1) Prophesying is preferable because it is charitable, unlike speaking in tongues, which no man in the church understands.

Point #2 (Verse 2) By speaking in an unknown tongue you do not to speak to men, but unto God: because no man understands what you are speaking, even though you're speaking mysteries in the spirit.

Point #3 (Verses 3-4) Speaking in tongues in the church gathering is not useful to the church, because it only edifies the speaker; but the church cannot understand the words of the tongue or language. But prophesying edifies the church because through it we can speak unto men for their edification, exhortation, and comfort. The church gathering is not for speaking to God alone, but also for speaking to one another (Ephesians 5:19). Therefore, to speak to God alone and not to men in the gathering of saints shows lack of spiritual order. If when we come together in fellowship we turn our backs against ourselves to speak to God alone, we abuse the purpose of corporate worship. If we must speak alone to God, it should be in our private worship, as our Lord has taught us in Matthew 6:5 and 6.

Point #4 (Verse 5) Paul preferred that all the church would rather prophesy than to speak in unknown tongues, because speaking with tongues is less than prophesying, except it is accompanied by interpretation so that the church may receive edifying.

Point #5 (Verse 6) Speaking with tongues to men does not profit them, only speaking to them by revelation, knowledge, prophesying, or by doctrine that can edify them.

Point #6 (Verse 7) Even lifeless objects, such as pipe or harp, which produce sound are more useful or intelligible than speaking tongues that do not give a distinction in the sounds made to the ears of men.

Point #7 (Verse A degree of certainty and distinctiveness of meaning is required in every sound given in the church to build up, equip and perfect the saints for their spiritual life's battles.

Point #8 (Verse 9) You can utter by the tongue words easy to be understood; and except you do so you would be speaking into the air. Mark this term, "to speak into the air". It refers to the same exercise that is termed "to speak not unto men but to God", "to speak to yourself and to God". This is not a commendable exercise in the church gathering, where we come together to speak to one another, as well as to ourselves and God.

Point #9 (Verse 10) All the many kinds of tongues in the world are with signification or meanings. This is a clear evidence that Paul was not treating the voices or tongues of angels, as some would wish he was doing in this chapter.

Point #10 (Verse 11) Speaking in tongues to men who do not understand the tongues makes you a barbarian to them and them a barbarian to you.

Point #11 (Verse 12-13) The zeal for spiritual gifts is insufficient for the church gathering, except it seeks to excel in edifying the church. Therefore the person that speaks in an unknown tongue should pray that he may interpret.

Point #12 (Verse 14-17) When you pray in an unknown tongue in the church meeting, your spirit prays, but your understanding bears no fruit to the church; thus they will not be able to say "Amen" to what they do not understand, even though you do give thanks well in the language you employ. To solve this problem you have to make sure that your understanding bears fruit to the church while your spirit is praying to God.

Point #13 (Verse 18-19) Paul spoke with tongues more than all the Corinthians; thus it is clear that he was not rebuking them because he was unable to speak in tongues. Speaking in tongues more than them could either be quantitatively or qualitatively; whichever it was, Paul was discrete enough to rather speak five words that could be understood in the church, so that he might teach others also with his speech, than to employ ten thousand words in an unknown tongue that they would not understand.

Point #14 (Verse 20-22) Many Brethren are children in the understanding of this matter of tongues because they fail to understand that tongues are for a sign, not to believers, but to unbelievers; whereas, prophesying is not for the unbelievers, but for the believers. This point should shame those who push for tongues as a prayer language for believers.

Point #15 (Verse 23-25) If all the speakers in the church speak with tongues, and there are any unlearned persons, or unbelievers there, they will say that the congregation is full of mad men. But if every speaker prophesies or preaches the gospel by the power of the Holy Spirit, the unbeliever will be convicted and judged by all of them, through their preaching; and the secrets of the heart of the unsaved are thus made manifest by the plainness of the anointed preaching; so that he falls down on his face and worships God, and reports that God is in the church of a truth!

Point #16 (Verse 26) Every spiritual activity in the meetings of the saints should be done unto edifying of all.

Point #17 (Verse 27-28) Speaking in an unknown tongue in the church should be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, let the person who intends to speak in tongues KEEP SILENCE in the church; and speak to himself, and to God. Speaking to himself and to God in the church should not be to the hearing of men otherwise he would be disobeying the instruction to keep silence. This is a clear prohibition of speaking unknown tongues in the church without interpretation.

Point #18 (Verse 29) The prophets are to speak by two or three, just like the speakers of unknown tongues, and the other is to judge the prophecy. This includes the interpretation of tongues, which is placed on equal rank with prophesying.

Point #19 (Verse 30-33, 40) Orderliness should be maintained in Christian meetings.

Point #20 (Verse 39-40) We should covet or desire strongly for the gift of prophesying, and not forbid to speak with tongues, provided it obeys the conditions already given in this chapter, in order to maintain orderliness and decency in the church gatherings.

luvinhubby:
Summary :

Speak in tongues more in your private devotion and speak or prophecy in understanding publicly in the church.

Offpoint:
Tongues are mostly speaking by the blacks, even in west is spoken mostly back blacks.

Neroiam:
Why did Jesus speak at the tomb of Lazarus when God can see his mind?

Voice out what you want to see

DropsMic:
Believe this or not.. But if he speaks in tongues, he is a fake pastor.... Also if you speak in tongues, you are only deceiving yourself..

That's just the absolute fact..
If you believe otherwise then you are lost..

In Nigeria People only speak in tongues for one reason only... So people see them as "highly spiritual"... Which here is all you need to scam gullible church goers.

If you think I'm lying monitor your pastors tongues. You go see pattern

blackjack21:
Wise man

Why speak at all when God can see what's in your mind.

Professorcplus:
What is the difference between the incantations of babalawo and speaking in tongues of Christian all in the name of talking to gods. Nothing. The difference is just packaging

Deepthoughts:
please those that spoke in tongues in the Bible,did they speak an existing n known language or incomprehensible jargons?.

kiyosaki1:
Lost soul sighted

Offpoint:
I remember that year I went to a Program and the invited guest speaker after preaching gave prayer points titled "Operation you must speak in tongues"

Those who can speak were asked to step backwards and those who can't forward.
That's when the whole church started prayers that lasted almost 3 hours, preacher said everyone must speaks in tongue.

After 2hrs everyone has spoken in tongues, whom I knew some fake it o...
I was the only one left o, that was how the entired church gathered around and starts bombarding me with prayers o.

30 minutes, no signs... preacher touch me, anoint me, push me, blow me breeze... no signs.
For my mind: God which can wahala be this? pity me now, even na just 5 seconds make I speak am... abi na so demons plenty for my body reach wey entire church gather for my head for over an hour and nothing show?
God abeg pity My life.

After over an hour the preacher man was like: The devil is liar, he must release you, I can see the spirit of tongues in you.
Me in my mind "You're right sir, I speak 7 languages"

After another 20 Minutes, preacher was like: See me after service.

Another questioning and prayers sessions after service o.


Tongues are mostly what Nigerians use to cover up when they ran out prayer points.

I've always question the logic of speaking a language nobody understands in church, a language not even you the speaker understands.... then what are you telling God when even you yourself don't understand?

I think the tongue of the Pentecostal Day was the only thing I found reasonable, what Nigerians are speaking is not tongues

I stopped taking them serious when I realized those who speaks in tongues, all of them individually all have one pattern they speak... you can't be telling God sake things since time immemorial.

Prayer for healing: oshe prapra robototo Mali kakobuyaya Toire

Prayer for protection: oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

Prayer for Devine blessings: oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

All prayer points:
oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

seriously?

Funny part some said they speak in tongues to confuse the devil
Devil who was once an heavenly citizen told them he doesn't understand heavenly tongues

called2Bsaint:
20 Points We Can Glean from 1Corinthians 14 About Speaking in Tongues in the Church are listed below:

Point #1 (Verse 1) Prophesying is preferable because it is charitable, unlike speaking in tongues, which no man in the church understands.

Point #2 (Verse 2) By speaking in an unknown tongue you do not to speak to men, but unto God: because no man understands what you are speaking, even though you're speaking mysteries in the spirit.

Point #3 (Verses 3-4) Speaking in tongues in the church gathering is not useful to the church, because it only edifies the speaker; but the church cannot understand the words of the tongue or language. But prophesying edifies the church because through it we can speak unto men for their edification, exhortation, and comfort. The church gathering is not for speaking to God alone, but also for speaking to one another (Ephesians 5:19). Therefore, to speak to God alone and not to men in the gathering of saints shows lack of spiritual order. If when we come together in fellowship we turn our backs against ourselves to speak to God alone, we abuse the purpose of corporate worship. If we must speak alone to God, it should be in our private worship, as our Lord has taught us in Matthew 6:5 and 6.

Point #4 (Verse 5) Paul preferred that all the church would rather prophesy than to speak in unknown tongues, because speaking with tongues is less than prophesying, except it is accompanied by interpretation so that the church may receive edifying.

Point #5 (Verse 6) Speaking with tongues to men does not profit them, only speaking to them by revelation, knowledge, prophesying, or by doctrine that can edify them.

Point #6 (Verse 7) Even lifeless objects, such as pipe or harp, which produce sound are more useful or intelligible than speaking tongues that do not give a distinction in the sounds made to the ears of men.

Point #7 (Verse A degree of certainty and distinctiveness of meaning is required in every sound given in the church to build up, equip and perfect the saints for their spiritual life's battles.

Point #8 (Verse 9) You can utter by the tongue words easy to be understood; and except you do so you would be speaking into the air. Mark this term, "to speak into the air". It refers to the same exercise that is termed "to speak not unto men but to God", "to speak to yourself and to God". This is not a commendable exercise in the church gathering, where we come together to speak to one another, as well as to ourselves and God.

Point #9 (Verse 10) All the many kinds of tongues in the world are with signification or meanings. This is a clear evidence that Paul was not treating the voices or tongues of angels, as some would wish he was doing in this chapter.

Point #10 (Verse 11) Speaking in tongues to men who do not understand the tongues makes you a barbarian to them and them a barbarian to you.

Point #11 (Verse 12-13) The zeal for spiritual gifts is insufficient for the church gathering, except it seeks to excel in edifying the church. Therefore the person that speaks in an unknown tongue should pray that he may interpret.

Point #12 (Verse 14-17) When you pray in an unknown tongue in the church meeting, your spirit prays, but your understanding bears no fruit to the church; thus they will not be able to say "Amen" to what they do not understand, even though you do give thanks well in the language you employ. To solve this problem you have to make sure that your understanding bears fruit to the church while your spirit is praying to God.

Point #13 (Verse 18-19) Paul spoke with tongues more than all the Corinthians; thus it is clear that he was not rebuking them because he was unable to speak in tongues. Speaking in tongues more than them could either be quantitatively or qualitatively; whichever it was, Paul was discrete enough to rather speak five words that could be understood in the church, so that he might teach others also with his speech, than to employ ten thousand words in an unknown tongue that they would not understand.

Point #14 (Verse 20-22) Many Brethren are children in the understanding of this matter of tongues because they fail to understand that tongues are for a sign, not to believers, but to unbelievers; whereas, prophesying is not for the unbelievers, but for the believers. This point should shame those who push for tongues as a prayer language for believers.

Point #15 (Verse 23-25) If all the speakers in the church speak with tongues, and there are any unlearned persons, or unbelievers there, they will say that the congregation is full of mad men. But if every speaker prophesies or preaches the gospel by the power of the Holy Spirit, the unbeliever will be convicted and judged by all of them, through their preaching; and the secrets of the heart of the unsaved are thus made manifest by the plainness of the anointed preaching; so that he falls down on his face and worships God, and reports that God is in the church of a truth!

Point #16 (Verse 26) Every spiritual activity in the meetings of the saints should be done unto edifying of all.

Point #17 (Verse 27-28) Speaking in an unknown tongue in the church should be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, let the person who intends to speak in tongues KEEP SILENCE in the church; and speak to himself, and to God. Speaking to himself and to God in the church should not be to the hearing of men otherwise he would be disobeying the instruction to keep silence. This is a clear prohibition of speaking unknown tongues in the church without interpretation.

Point #18 (Verse 29) The prophets are to speak by two or three, just like the speakers of unknown tongues, and the other is to judge the prophecy. This includes the interpretation of tongues, which is placed on equal rank with prophesying.

Point #19 (Verse 30-33, 40) Orderliness should be maintained in Christian meetings.

Point #20 (Verse 39-40) We should covet or desire strongly for the gift of prophesying, and not forbid to speak with tongues, provided it obeys the conditions already given in this chapter, in order to maintain orderliness and decency in the church gatherings.