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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by Afamed: 12:48am On Mar 09, 2020
Front0lane:


So you are no claiming effort of NigerDelta as Igbos now but when we talk about coup plotters they are no. Longer Igbos ba
That's kind of hypocrite they practice.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by Chairman50: 12:50am On Mar 09, 2020
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Afamed:

That's kind of hypocrite they practice.
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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by Afamed: 12:54am On Mar 09, 2020
DMerciful:
California actually want to secede.

Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by Chairman50: 12:55am On Mar 09, 2020
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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by NGpatriot: 12:58am On Mar 09, 2020
ChimaAdeoye:


Igbos fought for Nigeria's independence and won it
Igbos ceded power for a northern Prime Minister to keep the young nation united
Igbos developed Nigeria's educational curriculum as well as human capital development
Igbos helped Nigeria create a huge entrepreneurial base that is still cornerstone of the economy
Igboland is base to 75% of the country's main resource - OIL



.... I can give you more examples to your moronic question abokii!
In the end, Nigeria will collapse under the weight of its own injustice and unnecessary war against the Igbos
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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by CSTR2: 1:09am On Mar 09, 2020
ProWalker:


Les by Nzeogwu and Okafor, if they are SS people, that is your headache
Unfortunately, you have been cursed never to be stable.

I am sure if it was a case of oil, it would be called attache by force.

Some of your people are arguing that NOI is from the south south and not igbo.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by knowledgeable: 1:13am On Mar 09, 2020
johnmartus:
Name one thing that igbo has done to Nigeria. Only brainless and illiterate person can ask this question.

Fool, the question is morally justified. Fedral structure of government is a function of what socio-economic benefits each federating unit or group gain/contribute towards the structure, and if felt short changed, a unit can communicate that across through demonstrations, questions, debates etc, especially when you have dysfunctional/rubber stamped Senate. If your side haven't got the balls to question what's in there for them in any giving situation from time to time, don't block others to ask questions.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by MetaPhysical: 2:00am On Mar 09, 2020
Afamed:

Don't narrate this kind of upper Iweka /Ochanja news to your unborn Children, Biko nu!

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by Susu888(m): 2:22am On Mar 09, 2020
Because you said we should discuss intelligently let me give you one thing naija gave the igbos: grin

Naija gave the igbos the license to use and tarnish its name in countries all around the world by pushing drugs,selling contrabands, yahoo yahoo, robbery,cultism, human trafficking, kidnapping, Prostitution, baby factories and all kinds of heinous crimes you can think off.

How about that for intelligence?? tongue

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by NGpatriot: 2:34am On Mar 09, 2020
Susu888:
Because you said we should discuss intelligently let me give you one thing naija gave the igbos: grin

Naija gave the igbos the license to use and tarnish its name in countries all around the world by pushing drugs,selling contrabands, yahoo yahoo, robbery,cultism, human trafficking, kidnapping, Prostitution, baby factories and all kinds of heinous crimes you can think off.

How about that for intelligence?? tongue



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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by NGpatriot: 2:34am On Mar 09, 2020
Afamed:

Don't narrate this kind of upper Iweka /Ochanja news to your unborn Children, Biko nu!


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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by pazienza(m): 2:54am On Mar 09, 2020
RisenPhoenix


But without open borders within a single entity, Igbo traders would have been immigrants, and there would have bewn taxes and tariffs on all their goods and services. It is not only about roads.

We have Igbo traders all over the world and they pay going tax and tarrif rates of their host countries . They don't need Igboland to be attached to their host country to be solvent.




Again, most agricultural produce consumed in the Igbo regions is produced outside it. Without the presence of the Federation, Igbos would have had to import all their food.

What's this point suppose to mean, do the FG give us the food for free, or do we pay the going rates for them from the producers? If anything, the producers need us more than we need them.
Moreover, a Biafran government would be aggressive in its agricultural revolutions, and it would only be a matter of time before we produce our own foods.
And your assertion of most Agricultural food in Igboland being produced outside Igboland is a pure fallacy, especially when Nigeria as a whole import most of her food needs outside Nigeria.
Igboland produce most of her traditional staple food needs like Cassava, and Igbo soup condiments like Ugu leave, bitter leaf, and so fort. We don't import those from outside Igboland.




I have been to the East; only it was a long time ago to be honest. The problem is not with the Central government but with the regional government. Federal allocatiins are adequate and commensurate with what other states are receiving, but to be sincere, the level of mismanagement of funds though endemic nationwide; seems to be much higher in the Igbo regions. I am sincerely no tribalist, and if you were sincere, I am sure you would acknowledge this to be true.

You are not making any sense. No place in SW other than Lagos is more developed than any part of Igboland. We don't have best of leaders, but neither does any other part of Nigeria. We suffered a civil war, got our major cities of Aba, Owerri, Onitsha, Enugu, laid to ruins and had to start the rebuilding ourselves as the FG set aside no special rehabilitation or rebuilding fund for our ruined cities, instead all funds was channeled to Lagos, how much has FG so far budgeted for rehabilitation of NE that has suffered no real war, but just mere insurgency?

No you are not a tribalist,you just a normal Nigerian, who is Igbophobic by nature. How can water be wet?


Igbos are the ones who marginalize themselves. They are open about their hatred of every other tribe in Nigeria; sometimes they even hate each other when there is jo one else to diss. You will see Mbaise man talking about Abakaliki man, and Imo woman talking about Anambra woman. Self-pity and self-victimization are not endearing characteristics anywhere. Yet the Igbos still have a strong showing in all parts of the decision making process, from the Senate to the Judiciary and the Ministries.

You are not making any sense. Igbos are the ones that made the FG not to embark on rehabilitation of the region after the war? We are the ones that asked the FG to starve the region of all needed Federal presence? Igbos are the ones that recently made the FG to exclude the SE from benefitting from the new loan projects with no single project sited in the region?
So Ife and Modakeke people are no longer hating on each other, are they Igbos too? Osun Yoruba Muslims clashing with Yoruba Christians, are they Igbos too?
Even Olu falae couldn't step down for OBJ in 1999, are they Igbos too?
The Akintolas and Awolowos that sent the West on wild wild west and operation Wetie, are they Igbos as well?
It was Yorubas that betrayed Abiola to Abacha, you sold Awolowo to IBB who gave him the choice of either taking an exile, going to prison, or dying for his treason charges.
Yorubas were so much at each others throats, fighting local wrestling matches called Kiriji, that you all begged for the British to colonize you, if only to end the war. You couldn't live with each other. Your current unity was formed on altar of Igbophobia which Awolowo and Akintola worked on during the Yoruba Ronu speech. The moment Ndiigbo leave Nigeria, you will lose your unity factor, which is Igbophobia and might likely descend on each other throats again, as it was in precolonial and colonial Nigeria. This is why most of you dread Igbo secession.



But the national body as a whole does permit movement of all citizens within the Federation. The Igbos are the most prevalent of all the Nigerian tribes within other communities. Their region alone could not have supported all their population at this standard of living. In the avsence of the Federation, the Igbos would have been immigrants in Kano, Port Harcourt, Lagos or Abuja where most of the jobs are.

Igboland is more than Enough to accommodate Igbos all over the world. Lagos the smallest state in Nigeria contains millions of people.
Igbos left Igboland in mass after the war, because the region was starved of any special post war interventions and opportunities back home were limited. We didn't leave our homeland because we enjoyed being in midst of our murderers. After all we left all parts of Nigeria to our homeland to form a country called Biafra. We left Igboland to not just other parts of Nigeria but all over the world, because we needed economic empowerment which the FG deliberately starved our region of. We would gladly move back to Biafra if we get it today.



Ok. Now I understand the specific meaning. Initially, the op attached his question to the other more common question of Igbo autonomy. So I based my response on the issue of being part of the Federation.

To answer your renewed premise, the projects you named in other regions are specific problems of those regions. For example, the Almajiri schools were primarily a response to the insecurity faced by the whole nation; not a specific favour to the North alone. The 13% derivation fund is as it states, derived from the resources in the South South and is necessary to address the resultant pollution and vocational loss. As for infrastructure projects in the Western regions, they are essential due to the greater presence of industry in those regions; and it is these industries that contribute to the nation's wealth making those projects economically profitable. Those are issues that directly affect the whole nation and not those specific regions. The Igbo regions have self inflicted issues that make them less attractive to investment; even the average Igbo man would rather invest in the West or the North; so they are not targets of viable FG infrastructure projects. Also, as is the case in all regions, allocations are made to the respective Igbo States for their internal development and very little has been done with these allocations. Are your State roads/schools/hospitals better than the Federal roads/schools/hospitals in yout region? The region's officials seem to be more interested in lining their pockets than uplifting their region, and instead of the Igbo people to hold them to task, they'd rather place the blame on 'Afonjas' or 'Abokis' as the source of their problems

You mean the whole nation faces the Almajiri problem? Are you for real? How exactly does Almajiri schools help an Igbo man in SE? You mean it was not necessary for the Nigerian government to budget large sum of money to rehabilitate the East after she destroyed her infrastructures after the war? Or let me guess, because it affects the Igbos, so it doesn't affect Nigeria?

How exactly is the infrastructure built in SW essential for an Igboman in SE? Do we lack lands for the infrastructures to be built in our own lands or wouldn't our SME industries in Aba , Onitsha and Nnewi have benefitted from such? You see the type of injustice some of you Yorubas wish for Igbos and promote as a norm, know for certain that it would backfire, Awolowo started this way too.

You mean average Igbo men like Innoson would prefer to invest in hostile Yorubaland where you lots carry Igbo hating banners and your Oba directing his ancestors to lagoon, over Igboland, or does the lopsided siting of major seaport and airport facilities by the FG in Lagos which made importation of raw materials easier from Lagos and therefore citing of industries cheaper in Lagos which has now spilled over to Ogun?

Are Yoruba states working better than Igbo ones? Which of your Yoruba capital cities outside FG built Lagos is better than their Igbo counterparts despite the Igbo having to rebuild with no FG special funds post civil war?
How exactly have you held your looting Yoruba elites to ransom? When the recession came in 2015, Yoruba states were the worst hit.






It is time for the Igbos to put away their carried over resentment from the now expired and historical civil war and work with others to move forward. Then they will have a viable case to present. Trust and friendship are not gained by force.

No same people make friends with people like you whose heart is full of evil, hate and wish for them to suffer injustice.
As far as Nigerians continue to justify injustice against the Igbo like you just did in your posts, the Igbo will continue to hold unto Biafra. And one day, the table will surely turn, one day the hunter will become the hunted, one day the sun will rise in the east, it would shine so bright that our enemies will be blinded by its intensity and melted from flesh to bone by its magnificence.

This is Nigeria post civil national policy against the Igbo that it has continued to uphold until today :

The war aim and (final) solution properly speaking of the entire problem, is to discriminate against the Igbos and in their own interest. Such discrimination would include above all the detachment of those oil-rich territories in the Eastern Region, in addition, the Igbos' freedom of movement would be restricted, to prevent their renewed penetration into other parts, leaving any access to the sea to the Igbos, is quite out of the question, "(Federal Nigerian Minister speaking to E. C. Schwarzenback, Swiss Review of Africa, February 1968).

But this affliction will only last for a while. Ndiigbo will find a way out.

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by stonemasonn: 3:09am On Mar 09, 2020
It's a valid question.

Nigeria gave the Igbos a conducive environment to create wealth for themselves.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by pazienza(m): 3:16am On Mar 09, 2020
stonemasonn:
It's a valid question.

Nigeria gave the Igbos a conducive environment to create wealth for themselves.

Ndiigbo already created a conducive environment called Biafra and left all parts of Nigeria to Biafra in 1967-1970.

You can't possibly know what is more conducive for Ndiigbo, than Ndiigbo. If Nigeria was conducive, we wouldn't have retreated to Biafra in numbers and chose to die in numbers to keep Biafra territorial integrity for complete three years.
Careless statements like the one above, is an insult to the memory of our millions of dead Biafran heroes who died to protect a conducive environment called Biafra.

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by stonemasonn: 3:21am On Mar 09, 2020
pazienza:


Ndiigbo already created a conducive environment called Biafra and left all parts of Nigeria to Biafra in 1967-1970.


Careless statements like the one above, is an insult to the memory of our millions of dead Biafran heroes who died to protect a conducive environment called Biafra.
It's not a careless statement, Biafra wouldn't survive without the south-south and access to the sea.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by pazienza(m): 3:25am On Mar 09, 2020
Susu888:
Because you said we should discuss intelligently let me give you one thing naija gave the igbos: grin

Naija gave the igbos the license to use and tarnish its name in countries all around the world by pushing drugs,selling contrabands, yahoo yahoo, robbery,cultism, human trafficking, kidnapping, Prostitution, baby factories and all kinds of heinous crimes you can think off.

How about that for intelligence?? tongue

Those are normal crimes found around the world.
But do you know the worst crime? It's terrorism.

Boko Haram
Fulani herdsmen

Are ranked in top 5 deadliest terror organizations, and they have tarnished the image of the zoological republic more than anything else in the world.
And worst still, all the vices you named above are all found in large numbers in the North and committed By Northerners as well.

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by pazienza(m): 3:31am On Mar 09, 2020
stonemasonn:
It's not a careless statement, Biafra wouldn't survive without the south-south and access to the sea.

You mean, Ethiopia, Botswana, Rwanda, which are amongst the best progressive countries in Africa today, are not progressing because they have no access to Sea?

By the way, what exactly is South South? Is that a name of an ethnic group?
are Nzeogwu, Okocha, Okonjos of this world no longer Igbos and yet from this same SS?
Even if we hypothetically assume there are no Igbo speaking territories in the amorphous SS, SE on its own is not landlocked.
We have many access to the sea through Imo River and River Niger, and even if those didn't exist, we will still be great, because if Rwanda, Ethiopia, Botswana, can do it, so can we.

Your first post is careless and insulting to our dead Biafran Heroes.
Move on.

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by stonemasonn: 3:44am On Mar 09, 2020
pazienza:


You mean, Ethiopia, Botswana, Rwanda, which are amongst the best progressive countries in Africa today, are not progressing because they have no access to Sea?

By the way, what exactly is South South? Is that a name of an ethnic group?
are Nzeogwu, Okocha, Okonjos of this world no longer Igbos and yet from this same SS?
Even if we hypothetically assume there are no Igbo speaking territories in the amorphous SS, SE on its own is not landlocked.
We have many access to the sea through Imo River and River Niger, and even if those didn't exist, we will still be great, because if Rwanda, Ethiopia, Botswana, can do it, so can we.

Your first post is careless and insulting to our dead Biafran Heroes.
Move on.
As I said it is not a careless and insulting statement, you had free access to the large Nigeria market like everyone else and you took good advantage of it. It's not me to decide if Nzeogwu, Okonjo or Okocha are SS or Igbos.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by juman(m): 4:02am On Mar 09, 2020
Common!

What of the monthly allocation from federal to states.
South east states also get their allocation monthly.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by pazienza(m): 4:09am On Mar 09, 2020
stonemasonn:
As I said it is not a careless and insulting statement, you had free access to the large Nigeria market like everyone else and you took good advantage of it. It's not me to decide if Nzeogwu, Okonjo or Okocha are SS or Igbos.

We chose Biafra over the useless impoverished Nigerian market in 1966 when we all left all parts of Nigeria in mass to settle for Biafra.
So I ask again, are you saying you know what benefits Ndiigbo more than Igbos themselves?

So it's not for you to decide if they are Igbos or not, but you were already throwing SS around without deciding if Igbos have a stake in that modern day tower of babel with hundreds of distinct ethnic groups all pulling at different directions ?

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by ProWalker: 4:53am On Mar 09, 2020
CSTR2:

[s]Unfortunately, you have been cursed never to be stable.

I am sure if it was a case of oil, it would be called attache by force.

Some of your people are arguing that NOI is from the south south and not igbo[/s].

Very simple to deal with idiots like you
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by ProWalker: 4:53am On Mar 09, 2020
Cherez:

[s]I thought they said Igbos lack respect but obviously this is your value to have dragged my dad.[/s]
#AudioRespect

He is in a better position to teach you
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by 9japride(m): 5:00am On Mar 09, 2020
Those who hate Igbos, just give them power and watch how wicked they will be in their leadership style.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by President2031: 5:17am On Mar 09, 2020
Nigeria has given igbos Niger delta oil money since the discovery of crude oil in the Niger delta.

So calculate the monthly allocation of the south east state from when oil was discovered till date.

You guys are criminals
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by LZAA: 5:30am On Mar 09, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Shyyte...we liberated Ibos. Opened your uncivilized eyes. grin

Now you dey form king kong.

I can list ten, gaddem it! grin

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Afamed
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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by Nobody: 5:38am On Mar 09, 2020
pazienza:


But this affliction will only last for a while. Ndiigbo will find a way out.

The only statement worthy of notice in my opinion. You may find a way out of your rut eventually, but only when you learn to stop blaming others for your issues. That is the only point you kept harping on in your write up; how your problems were caused by everyone else except the Igbo themselves. It's as if everyone owes the Igbo some ephemereal debt to keep all our attention and focus on them. The solution is simple, genuinely join the collective narrative or remain irrelevant. And be thankful for the little you are getting already despite your lack of commitment and your region's historically meagre contribution to the national fund. Also, learn to hold your own leaders accountable for the effective use of those funds.

No more words are needed.

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by oyatz(m): 5:59am On Mar 09, 2020
Stop posting your propaganda as the Gospel truths on this Forum.


75% of the oil in Nigeria are NOT on any land let alone Igboland.

Most of the crued oil Nigeria has are actually offshore (Sometimes upto over 70 nautical miles away from the shores, deep into the Ocean).

Are you saying the Atlantic ocean is part of Igboland?



ChimaAdeoye:


Igbos fought for Nigeria's independence and won it
Igbos ceded power for a northern Prime Minister to keep the young nation united
Igbos developed Nigeria's educational curriculum as well as human capital development
Igbos helped Nigeria create a huge entrepreneurial base that is still cornerstone of the economy
Igboland is base to 75% of the country's main resource - OIL



.... I can give you more examples to your moronic question abokii!
In the end, Nigeria will collapse under the weight of its own injustice and unnecessary war against the Igbos
.

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Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by PicLtd: 6:09am On Mar 09, 2020
ProWalker:


A 3rd class pseudo Jew in black skin shouldn’t have an opinion

I don't have an emirate on my land and my people were not conquered by menstruating dahomey women like your people. grin
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by johntolu: 6:12am On Mar 09, 2020
ProWalker:


Go ask your father that question

ProWalker, I do not think there is any need bringing that guy's Dad into your squabble with him. I trust you will be 'Man' enough, to render him an apology. Peace.
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by oyatz(m): 6:16am On Mar 09, 2020
Every Region contribute to the economy of Nigeria. I am ashamed to see supposedly educated Nigerians that don't understand this fact.

1) If all other regions stop working and Nigeria rely only on the sale of crude oil, will the money be enough for the country to import;

All meat we need?
All Leathers we need?
All the yams (including Pando yams) we need?
All the vegetable oil, palm oil, animal feeds?

All the maize?

In fact ,the money won't be enough to import food and clothes for the country



2) For instance, in the S/West ,the production of Agricultural produce, poultry products, Fishes Timber and wood products , livestocks etc meet certain needs of Nigerians. If these aren't produced, then Nigerians will be forced to take her hard earned money to go and buy these products in the international market at exhorbitant prices.


3) If the Northerners don't produce beans, onions, beef, leather, milk, rice etc, we will have to be importing all these at exhorbitant International prices.

The currency of Nigeria would have become worse than that of Zimbabwe.


Cherez:

So what has other parts done to deserve all they are getting?
There was a war in Nigeria which was obviously from a good reason (progrom) and no rehabilitation after, now the NE brought BH on themselves and since 2011 there has been rehabilitation programs running into billions of dollars yearly.
Now to what the Igbos have done; the major revenue source for Nigeria is oil and Abia and Imo state contribute to this.
Aside the SS, can you explain what other regions contribute to Nigeria?
Re: Name One Thing Nigeria Has Done For The Igbos by Chairman50: 6:36am On Mar 09, 2020
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