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Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by Oluwadare: 1:21pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
We don't actually need to go into secession before Nigeria can be a great country. Albeit, I always lean towards restructuring of some archaic ideas that are giving us problems presently. Such as quota system, half-back education yet such person is permitted by law to contest for critical position in our dear nation. Having said this, we only need strict laws that can deter anyone from going into corruption. Our major problem in this country is mere corruption, I mean corruption in all spheres of the country. Once we are able to cut out corruption, then we are on our way up as a nation. For instance, you steal this amount of money, you will be killed, you go against any government rules and regulations you will be certainly punished including all the government officials and the removal of unnecessary clauses in our existing laws, such as immunity being enjoyed by certain people in the government. We have much more to gain in our togetherness than go our separate ways. May God bless Nigeria and all Nigerians. 5 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 1:24pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
BSMS: It's not possible, except you won't be a member of UN. They are charters that protects the property of individuals in foreign land. The worst is to enact hostile policies, but then... It will affect you badly. First, if there's exodus of businesses, it will create unemployment and deep in revenues. 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by horsepower102: 1:26pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel: Very good points |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by helinues: 1:30pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Conner44: How many of the Nigeria businesses and companies are in SE region compared to Biafra Companies and businesses in the remaining 31 states.. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by horsepower102: 1:30pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel: Thank you for educating the ignorant minds. |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by Coldie(m): 1:32pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
tatatar:Do u know what it means to with confidence enter into a mans farm, with confidence destroy the crops, with confidence still challenge him after destroying his farm. I even read on the news where a Fulani herdsman attacked a farmer infront of the police. Not to talk of Fulani herdsman attacking a monarch of a community. Fake drugs can never be compared to these 5 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by Coldie(m): 1:33pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Oluwadare:Northerners would oppose it 3 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by tatatar: 1:34pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Coldie:Really You're downplaying causing people's death abi |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 1:36pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
tatatar: I don't know why you're trolling in a thread that concerns Biafrans, why not proffer solutions to your 80% poor population with the highest Illiteracy rate such that the world has never seen before?.... Hope you aren't strapped with some Kaboom!!! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by horsepower102: 1:38pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Oluwadare: I will cut through and just say to you that your thinking is not grounded on reality. Your response is based on aspirations and hope. Basically a fantasy. |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 1:40pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
tatatar: What's the work of NAFDAC? I don't need to argue with you, Fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram has killed Nigerians, more than the casualties they recorded during Nigeria /Biafra war. 3 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 1:42pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Coldie: Oppose what?... They're financing depleting daily, with more infrastructures ravaged by their Boko sons and daughters. |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by horsepower102: 1:43pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel: To add to your point, not all Fulani herdsmen killing even make it to the news. The ones we know are the only ones that made it to the news. There are killings that go unreported. So the situation might be 2 times worse than we are aware of. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by Coldie(m): 1:46pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
tatatar:Let's talk about the stats. What is the percentge of fake drug related deaths to Fulani killings? In Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by horsepower102: 1:46pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel pos t=87549698: They will oppose it. He is right but not from a position of strength since oil price and military has been devastated. Northerners are going to be in a tough situation in the coming years and they know it. That’s why Buhari rushed to fill every position with northerners. He is preparing for all eventualities. |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 1:46pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
horsepower102: Sure! It takes a fool only to play down the ills they've meted to Nigerian population. It's fearful now to obtain a loan to invest in Agriculture, because of some crippy blood sucking demons. 4 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by tatatar: 1:49pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel:Is there a law that says you can't do both "...the world has never seen before" -you got this "fact" from your Biafra encyclopaedia right? Who says I'm from the North anyways Hope you're not planning on murdering and robbing that your nephew that just returned with drug money from South Africa. Criminals!!! 1 Like |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 1:50pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
horsepower102: If they couldn't be better after years of marginalizating Igbos and minority tribes, they can't be again. Oil is loosing relevance, democracy has reduced they excesses with the internet exposing there madness, they can't do much again. 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 1:53pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
tatatar: Drugs crimes, aren't same as terrorism. Americans do drugs, EU does it, but terrorism is a no in any sane clan. Your craft of terrorism and Illiteracy is top-notch. No apologies we buy drugs, but your uneducated clans mop it up. They inhale even urine. BBC has aided you by running a documentary on drug use in the North, why not East? Ndi Ara. 5 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by horsepower102: 1:59pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel: Facts... nothing they do now can change their situation. But we will all suffer the consequences of the bad decisions of Northerners over the years as long as we remain one. Starvations and lack of opportunities will force a large horde of northerners to migrate south in the coming years and they will start looking to occupy territories by force while protected by the Nigerian military. Look at some parts of middle belt and how some settlers later became indigenes and took lands from the owners. This will happen one day in the rest of southern Nigeria as more northers are forced to migrate due to devastated economies and decades of bad northern leadership. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by horsepower102: 2:00pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel: I hope you know that they guy you are responding to wants to derail this conversation. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 2:06pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
horsepower102: I'm crazily mad with the rants of the half-baked terrorist fan. I couldn't hide my detest for his ignorance and tantrums. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by gidgiddy: 2:06pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
BSMS: Lets just assume what you said above is true. Lets just assume that there are 20 million Igbos who make their living in Nigeria, they are richer than those who live in Igbo land, and should referendum come, the 20 million would see to it that the referendum goes in favour of unity with Nigeria The question then remains, why is Nigeria scared of Biafra? If people like you already know that there are 20 million Igbos who will vote against Biafra in a referendum, why start this thread? Why this resentment against the Biafran agitation since there are already 20 million Igbos who love 'one Nigeria'? How come we have never seen not one of these 20 million Igbos hold one single rally for "one Nigeria" in Igbo land or elsewhere? Yet we have seen millions of IPOB hold rallies in Nigeria and beyond. Lets stop this foolishness. Let Igbos decide their destiny. No amount of wealth or money is worth freedom. Igbo have a every right to vote in referendum to decide for themselves their future, whether for better or worse. Those who are agitating for Biafra want the matter of Biafra decided through a democratic referendum. That is what matters, being given the power to choose your destiny is often more important than the choice that was made. So whether Igbos vote for Biafra or Nigeria is not even the main issue. The main issue is getting the right to even make a choice in the first place. Igbos are a very resilient people, the average Igbo man believes in himself. For the Igbo man, his success or faliure has nothing to do with being in Nigeria. The Igbo man believes he can make it anywhere in the world 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by tatatar: 2:09pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel:Tell that to South America where uncountable number of people have been murdered due to drug war As usual they are defending their criminal brothers.In a lot of countries,you will be executed for it,not the consumers but the traffickers- to tell you the amount of damage it does. Of course,you guys don't care as long as the money keeps flowing in.You haven't even talked about the amount of people you guys have killed with fake drugs. |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by horsepower102: 2:12pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
gidgiddy: Intelligent response. I saw through the agenda of the OP. I have seen many of his likes come and go. 3 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by Coldie(m): 2:13pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
tatatar:With this kind of thinking we are not surprised its the result of quote system. Give us stats on fake drug deaths to Nigeria to Fulani killings. Let's know which is an epidemic. Fake drugs kill we have nafdac. So do u accept we should have nafdac for fulani 4 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by tatatar: 2:15pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Coldie:Thank you for bringing that up.Perhaps you should be the one to tell us.The average Nigerian, including myself,knows someone who have died due to fake drugs. Not less than 100,000 deaths are caused in sub-saharan Africa (which Nigeria will have a huge chunk of)yearly from fake malaria drugs alone o. Easily you guys are worst bringers of death than Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen combined. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by gidgiddy: 2:18pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
horsepower102: The guy is funny. Someone who claims that there are 20 million Igbos who are all for "one Nigeria" opened a thread to still talk about secession 3 Likes |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by BSMS(f): 2:19pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Yes I concur.... Next question how do we save life's before the international community intervention horsepower102: |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by tatatar: 2:21pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
MasterKernel:Ogbeni will you keep quiet! Do you think you arguing with a usual dumb ipob. You saying BH/FH have killed 3 million people Deaths due to BH are around 50,000,FH the worst case scenario should be around that order too. What's the work of our security forces by the way? |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by MasterKernel: 2:24pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
horsepower102: No! I'm exact Bro. I had my childhood in the East, I'm very apprised with the terrine and doctrines of the Igbos. Hausas and Fulanis are not in good numbers in Anambra and Abia, because of their reprisal attributes, in fact... A good number of the Hausas sleep in Asaba, while coming to Onitsha for there daily itineraries. They fear the Igbos. I had my high school in Federal establishment, if there's a crisis in the North, and 30 Igbos are killed, Igbos in Abia will go to Gariki and killed more Northerners straight up. |
Re: Let's Debate On Secession. No Insults by Coldie(m): 2:28pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
tatatar:Give us stats. And origins stating south east. I can give u stats on Fulani killings |
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