Go and watch...get the info by phyno and falze

Then come back let's debate

Coldie:

With this kind of thinking we are not surprised its the result of quote system.

Give us stats on fake drug deaths to Nigeria to Fulani killings. Let's know which is an epidemic.

Fake drugs kill we have nafdac. So do u accept we should have nafdac for fulani

stop justifying nonsense.. you've been making sense from page 1 till sentiment clouded your judgement

Well I support secession, make everyone go their way abeg.. I sha no say YORUBA no fit suffer.. we are weak BUT wise... when you are not strong, your only option is to be wise.... afromentalist.....
sometimes I go dey wonder why dem go dey build south west and leave their region to wallow in po**** ty.. is like leaving my papa house and start to dey build another's man land..

Coldie:

I repeat no be chest beating if half of the money that has been poured into the north is poured in Igbo land by now Igbo land would be the first fully developed region in Nigeria

Indeed we can see that in the federal allocation Abia Ebonyi collect monthly. How do they compare with Kaduna for a start or should I say Kano ?

christopher123:
Let me make it a bit easier for you...secession doesnt mean war...unless the black man is thinking that and also , freedom is the highest sacrifice what makes a nation is not the buildings or houses but capacity. The igbo have that capacity. Do you know that let us say about 10 million Igbo leave lagos for instance and these 10 million have about N1000 naira in their accounts....guess what, about 10 billion would leave lagos economy and it might crash. If you want to know this, wait till Dec 28 to jan 3rd and see how desolate lagos is

when igbo leave, trust me things would be affected

The travel industry will crash
The apapa port would dull because importers are gone
The entertainiment (Nollywood ) would crash for Biafrawood
Sports would dull becuase stakeholders are not around
Hospitality would dull...Igbo lodgers are leaving
Beverage industries would go because The north dont consume beers and the igbo would go and produce theirs trust them
Poverty would set in because majority of money has left the economy#real estate prices will crash becuase no occupants or low occupant.... lagos would be like ibadan
Skills would go

Guess what
Igboland would boost because the new biafra would have millions of people and this would create opportunities and opportunities create employment .
New embassies would spring up
Biafra hospitality, real estate and travel would boost
Aviation would be high and Lagos aviation would be dull
a new entertainment hib would be created
Igbo industriousness would be unleashed
It would be a win win for biafra ...looking at the economic angle a

as of the properties, do not worry...International laws protect that. When the jews left Europe to create isreal in 1945..they did not loose their properties and today look at isreal....

So do not worry about igbo let them worry about themselves....do not cry more than the bereaved

Visionary statement. Spot on. Thanks

christopher123:
However as well as emulating Israel’s benefits, Biafra may also have mimicked Israel’s problems. Igbos are often called “The Jews of Africa”. The title is not fanciful. Had Biafra succeeded, it would have had similar demographic and geographic challenges to the world’s only Jewish state. It would have been surrounded by hostile nations, while simultaneously facing an armed insurrection within its borders by its own citizens.

Biafra faced many challenges within; including a Game of Thrones style cocktail of conspiracies, internal rivalries, politics, and in-fighting. Not all eastern Nigerians approved of secession. The Efiks, Annangs, Ibibios, and Ijaws within Biafra were not enthusiastic about swapping a Nigerian passport under a Hausa-Fulani led government, with a Biafran passport where they would be led by an Igbo government. How would the ethnic groups on Biafra’s southern coast react to being minority citizens of a country where most of the wealth is obtained from their land, but where they did not have economic and political leadership? Probably in the way they reacted when the same circumstances arose in Nigeria; MEND, Niger Delta People’s Volunteer Force et al. The armed campaign of kidnapping and violence which Niger Delta militants waged against the Nigerian federal government would instead have been waged within Biafra’s borders – against the Biafran government. Isaac Idaka Boro’s short-lived Niger Delta Peoples Republic (and the fact that Boro fought for the Nigerian federal army against Biafra) was a demonstration that Niger Delta militants would have turned their guns on Biafra before long.

NOISY NEIGHBOURS

How would Biafra have related to its neighbours? To its northern border would have been one or two landlocked northern republics awash with trained combatant soldiers and guns. These landlocked countries would need would need deals with Biafra to gain access to the sea. If Biafra refused or negotiations got difficult, their demands for access to the sea may have turned violent. Would these northern republics quietly tolerate the noisy, rich, and successful little nation to their south without envy or rivalry? Unlikely.

THE MID-WEST

To Biafra’s western border would have been a diverse country of Edos, Esans, Isokos, Itsekiris, Urhobos, Ika-Igbos and others (modern day Delta and Edo States). Would Biafra have closed its borders to its Igbo brothers living in the state next door? Two options were open to Biafra. It could have encouraged the Igbos living to its west to migrate to Biafra by granting them automatic Biafran citizenship under an Israel style “law of return”. That of course would have presented its own problems by inferring that Biafra was an Igbo ethnic theocracy. It would also have fuelled fears among non-Igbo Biafrans that Biafra was an Igbo project.

The other option would have been to enlarge Biafra’s territory by extending its borders westward into Igbo speaking areas west of the River Niger such as Asaba. Non-Igbos living in such areas were unlikely to accept such territorial encroachment peacefully. Any Biafran attempt to annex territory west of the Niger would have been violently resisted. Even if successful, Biafran soldiers would have been viewed as an army of occupation in the manner of British soldiers in Northern Ireland and Israeli soldiers in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

If Biafra had succeeded in 1967, there would have been 4 countries in the area now called Nigeria.

Republic of Biafra
Republic of Benin
Oduduwa
Nigeria

Biafra would have been a country led by the iron fist of ojukwu family. Ojukwu would have developed a cult following in Igbo, Ibibio and Efik areas. That would mean that only ijaws and ogonis may be outsiders.

Republic of Benin would be almost a vassal state of Biafra which means ojukwu and family would have more power.

Nigeria would have found economic and political cooperation with Oduduwa which means that sea access for them will be via Lagos.

A strong border would have existed in nsukka to keep Nigerians away.

The politics in Biafra itself would be similar to politics in Libya or politics in Abacha era.... dictated by ojukwu family and military. Believe me asari dokubo would not last a year in such a country.

Check politics in Angola, Gabon and equitorial guinea

No, if lagos which is smallest state can contain over 20 million, biafra which is about 10 times the size of lagos can contain 100 million...do not worry about Igbo. I do not know why you guys do not worry about yourselves but Igbo...if you can devote one tenth of the energies worring about yourself, it would be good

Even if there is Biafra , there would be capital repartriation...when Igbo go for christmas dont the whole east contin them...make una dey reason naaa

why are you guys angered that Igbo dont want you...do not make the mistake of your fathers by begging and fighting Igbo to stay...you are the children, if you do that, in the next 20 yrs, Igbo would buy over lagos...so let them leave

sweetsell:
So what now happen when the 10 million enter Biafra ? Should the 10 million not turn Biafra into a mini Lagos atleast ? Why is that not the case ?

You Igbos make too much mouth. Other countries without Igbos are existing fine n many doing beta than Nigeria. Who know if the multitude of your fan yogo okirimi people leaves we might have a beta Lagos ?

Before your forefathers started coming to lagos it was already a prosperous land. You can ask the Benis, Portuguese n British, if all igbo leave this sec if Lagos misses you make I die suddenly.

Your forefathers fathers came to lagos without a dime looking for succor. A place where they will escape hardship sorrow n misery they were acquainted to in Biafra. The wealth you talked about the earned it slaving in Lagos n they are rightly entitled to it but when they leave more wealth will go round among Lagosians n newcomers into the state.

Whether Biafra boom economically or not is not my business. I can only wish you whatever it is you wish Lagos State after you leave.

Coldie:

Your opinion doesn't count we aint dealing with dimwits here

Only on NL will foolish soul that have been exposed for their foolishness branding those more intelligent than their father dimwit.

I dubt, if you know igbo very well, they are republican and never in hostory of igbo that anyone dictate, even kanu is been called to order...Igbo do not follow one man, they follow logics

selemempe:


If Biafra had succeeded in 1967, there would have been 4 countries in the area now called Nigeria.

Republic of Biafra
Republic of Benin
Oduduwa
Nigeria

Biafra would have been a country led by the iron fist of ojukwu family. Ojukwu would have developed a cult following in Igbo, Ibibio and Efik areas. That would mean that only ijaws and ogonis may be outsiders.

Republic of Benin would be almost a vassal state of Biafra which means ojukwu and family would have more power.

Nigeria would have found economic and political cooperation with Oduduwa which means that sea access for them will be via Lagos.

A strong border would have existed in nsukka to keep Nigerians away.

The politics in Biafra itself would be similar to politics in Libya or politics in Abacha era.... dictated by ojukwu family and military. Believe me asari dokubo would not last a year in such a country.

Check politics in Angola, Gabon and equitorial guinea

...Secession will never happen in Nigeria not because Nigerians want to stay together but because of the aftermath of the event, any region that gain independent today would be brutally dealt with by the other region in their domain no amount of deal or discussion can stop this, and even if you divide the country into 6 country we will still be hostile to one another endless war along the boarder and i don't think the UN will approve this , people will be victimize and you can't denies the fact that there are more opportunities in some region than the other especially immediate opportunity , Musa will be treated like trash in Anambra, Kunle will have to change his name and religion to make it in Kano and Amaka will pay more than the reasonable tax in Ibadan, Ijaw man may be kill in Sokoto for going away with the oil revenue. Honestly the people you believe to be in-charge of this country feel irritated by been together with the other people! you might not believe but when you join the circle of command you will understand.

But that is the truth...it is econmics. traffic would crash in lagos and abuja airports, embassies would relcate, banks would feel the impacts...and there would be disruption in Nigerian economy...if you want to know how Nigeria would look like if igbo leave...look at lagos by Dec 29th to januray 3rd...iT WOULD GIVE YOU A CLEAR PICTURE...it is simple economics

horsepower102:


Visionary statement. Spot on. Thanks

The Igbos are a significant population in Nigeria and they have ruled Nigieria at different levels in the past (Igbos have been President, Head of State, Vice President, Senate President ,Speaker of House of Reps, Ministers of Finance, CBN Governors, PDP chairmen etc) why can't they address these complaints?

horsepower102:


Igbos staying in Nigeria is the only reason most other tribes are comfortable to stay. Igbos provide a shield for so many. That is why whenever igbos starts to seriously agitate, the rest also starts saying the will also leave if igbos leave.

But notice that they will never on their own push for secession. They are only waiting to react based on what igbos want to do.

The idea of igbos leaving Nigeria scares so many Nigerians and puts them in a panic mode. Unfortunately, most of them respond with hatred and anger towards the igbos instead of addressing the issues igbos have been complaining of for years that is leading to the agitation.

Nigeria is full of so many cowards. I have to say the bitter truth.

But you pathetic Igbos can't point a single evidence where any Yoruba n this include the foolish ones from PDP begged Igbos to stay in Nigeria with them.

For the records as a Yoruba whether of any significance or not Igbos can go tell hell for all I care. I wonder what more freedom can be greater than that.

christopher123:
No, if lagos which is smallest state can contain over 20 million, biafra which is about 10 times the size of lagos can contain 100 million...do not worry about Igbo. I do not know why you guys do not worry about yourselves but Igbo...if you can devote one tenth of the energies worring about yourself, it would be good

Even if there is Biafra , there would be capital repartriation...when Igbo go for christmas dont the whole east contin them...make una dey reason naaa

why are you guys angered that Igbo dont want you...do not make the mistake of your fathers by begging and fighting Igbo to stay...you are the children, if you do that, in the next 20 yrs, Igbo would buy over lagos...so let them leave

Trust me Nigerians many do not want to stay together, and do not say seccesion will not happen because if it can happen in France where Monoco left, Malaysia where Singapore Left, UK, where Ireland, wales etc left...Ethiopia where Eritrea left , USSR, you know the story, India where Pakistan,Bengal, Bangladesh left

Why do you think it can happen in Nigeria...If it can happen in Senegal where Gambia left... It will happen here

To avoid it, tell your leaders to be honest, be just and equity

gbengaeed:
...Secession will never happen in Nigeria not because Nigerians want to stay together but because of the aftermath of the event, any region that gain independent today would be brutally dealt with by the other region in their domain no amount of deal or discussion can stop this, and even if you divide the country into 6 country we will still be hostile to one another endless war along the boarder and i don't think the UN will approve this , people will be victimize and you can't denies the fact that there are more opportunities in some region than the other especially immediate opportunity , Musa will be treated like trash in Anambra, Kunle will have to change his name and religion to make it in Kano and Amaka will pay more than the reasonable tax in Ibadan, Ijaw man may be kill in Sokoto for going away with the oil revenue. Honestly the people you believe to be in-charge of this country feel irritated by been together with the other people! you might not believe but when you join the circle of command you will understand.

Easy stop been agitated..I do not know why this is paining you guys especially yoruba..look at your words

Well I have spoken the truth

sweetsell:
But you pathetic Ig O can't point a single evidence where any Yoruba n this in lude the foolish ones from PDP begged Igbos to stay in Nigeria with them.

For the records as a Yoruba whether of significance or not Igbos can go tell hell for all I care. I wonder what more freedom can be greater than that.

That is not the issue, the issue on stake is that...they want to leave..period

oyatz:
The Igbos are a significant population in Nigeria and they have ruled Nigieria at different levels in the past (Igbos have been President, Head of State, Vice President, Senate President ,Speaker of House of Reps, Ministers of Finance, CBN Governors, PDP chairmen etc) why can't they address these complaints?

selemempe:


If Biafra had succeeded in 1967, there would have been 4 countries in the area now called Nigeria.

Republic of Biafra
Republic of Benin
Oduduwa
Nigeria

Biafra would have been a country led by the iron fist of ojukwu family. Ojukwu would have developed a cult following in Igbo, Ibibio and Efik areas. That would mean that only ijaws and ogonis may be outsiders.

Republic of Benin would be almost a vassal state of Biafra which means ojukwu and family would have more power.

Nigeria would have found economic and political cooperation with Oduduwa which means that sea access for them will be via Lagos.

A strong border would have existed in nsukka to keep Nigerians away.

The politics in Biafra itself would be similar to politics in Libya or politics in Abacha era.... dictated by ojukwu family and military. Believe me asari dokubo would not last a year in such a country.

Check politics in Angola, Gabon and equitorial guinea

Sir with all due respect, stop your hypotheticals. You are using the emergency war powers to project what a Biafra civilian rule would be like.

If America didn’t win the revolutionary war against the British, some people will be saying that George Washington would’ve been a dictator if he had won.

That’s exactly what you are doing with Ojukwu. There is no way you can read the ahiara declaration and believe Ojukwu would have been a dictator.

Please stop it. I know you want one Nigeria.

christopher123:
No, if lagos which is smallest state can contain over 20 million, biafra which is about 10 times the size of lagos can contain 100 million...do not worry about Igbo. I do not know why you guys do not worry about yourselves but Igbo...if you can devote one tenth of the energies worring about yourself, it would be good

Even if there is Biafra , there would be capital repartriation...when Igbo go for christmas dont the whole east contin them...make una dey reason naaa

why are you guys angered that Igbo dont want you...do not make the mistake of your fathers by begging and fighting Igbo to stay...you are the children, if you do that, in the next 20 yrs, Igbo would buy over lagos...so let them leave

Beautiful. Well said.

First, filling positions with Northerners will not necessarily translate into development of the North.
It will only enrich few people while multitudes live in abject poverty.

Secondly, Nigeria will be forced to restructure itself over time.

horsepower102:


They will oppose it. He is right but not from a position of strength since oil price and military has been devastated.

Northerners are going to be in a tough situation in the coming years and they know it. That’s why Buhari rushed to fill every position with northerners.

He is preparing for all eventualities.

You know they think that there is no expanse of lands in Igbo,... if Igbo land can contain 80% of Igbo during xmas and new year, please there are enough lands from Enugu to Abikiliki,,,we have huge tons of land, From Okigew to Enugu huge Land, From Imo to Rivers Huge Lnad, From Ebonyi to Abia huge lands

There are lots of land in Igbo

horsepower102:


Beautiful. Well said.

gbam

oyatz:
First, filling positions with Northerners will not necessarily translate into development of the North.
It will only enrich few people while multitudes live in abject poverty.

Secondly, Nigeria will be forced to restructure itself over time.

christopher123:
Easy stop been agitated..I do not know why this is paining you guys especially yoruba..look at your words

Well I have spoken the truth

Honestly for people who always claim to have it all yet so scared of igbos leaving. They try so hard to pretend but they keep exposing their inner fears.

So spineless.

Are we talking war? why is it that most times you guys think wars ..many of this countries left without wars...Black man start thinking properly pls

let us be civil...it is not hypothesis it is reality

Biafra leaving would likely crash Nigerian economy and that is why they are begging them in a way to stay..they are tempting them with presidency and I think the IGBO are not hearing that

smell the coffee

horsepower102:


Sir with all due respect, stop your hypotheticals. You are using the emergency war powers to project what a Biafra civilian rule would be like.

If America didn’t win the revolutionary war against the British, some people will be saying that George Washington would’ve been a dictator if he had won.

That’s exactly what you are doing with Ojukwu. There is no way you can read the ahiara declaration and believe Ojukwu would have been a dictator.

Please stop it. I know you want one Nigeria.

The truth is that Igbo are their destiny makers... trust me

Malaysia told Singapore to leave they left but here in Nigeria, they get angered and hopeless when Biafra is mentioned, How can they depend on Igbo so much?

horsepower102:


Honestly for people who always claim to have it all yet so scared of igbos leaving. They try so hard to pretend but they keep exposing their inner fears.

So spineless.

Define pain ?
Well, I can understand why you are foolish. It is hereditary so no surprises there.

christopher123:
Easy stop been agitated..I do not know why this is paining you guys especially yoruba..look at your words

Well I have spoken the truth

christopher123:
Are we talking war? why is it that most times you guys think wars ..many of this countries left without wars...Black man start thinking properly pls

let us be civil...it is not hypothesis it is reality

Biafra leaving would likely crash Nigerian economy and that is why they are begging them in a way to stay..they are tempting them with presidency and I think the IGBO are not hearing that

smell the coffee

Trust me Biafrans want a peaceful resolution to this fake union but you can desperately see that Nigerians want to draw blood. They are angry that igbos want to leave and they are threatening to inflict as much pain as possible including taking Innocent igbo lives.

BSMS:
(001)
DON'T TELL ME YOU DON'T HAVE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION

(1) How many Igbos live or work in Kano State?
(2) How many Igbos live or work in Abuja?
(3) How man Igbos live or work in Lagos?

(4) Is it true that more than 20 million Igbos live or work in other parts of Nigeria outside Igboland?
(5) Is it true that there are more Igbo owned businesses outside Igboland than those located in Igboland?
(6) If true, it means Igbos earn more than half their income from economic activities occurring in other parts of Nigeria outside Igboland.

If you don't have the above information, how can you honestly and realistically plan for secession or for Biafra?

If as a result of secession millions of Igbos are to relocate back to Igboland, what plans do you have to provide them employment and settle them in Igboland?

The funny thing about ipob is that they never think about these things. They just emote.

One thing they forgot was that by the time Ojujwu declared Biafra in 1967, all Igbos in Nigeria had been forced back to Igboland. If millions of Igbos were freely doing their business in Kano and Lagos, Ojukwu would not have attempted a secession.

You need to consider the 20 million Igbos scattered all over Nigeria outside Igboland. If you were them, would you abandon your successful businessrs in Kano and Lagos and return to Igboland to fight over land with your village people?

Those 20 million Igbos are richer than those in Igboland. When referendum comes, they will vote against break-up and they will use their influence to get their brothers at home to vote against it. So, I can predict with certainty that the referendum will fail woefully.

The Igbos are like eagles. They need a vast space to soar wide and far. Igbos don't need to be confined within a tight space. They are free spirits. For the Igbos, there should be no national boundaries. The Igbos need a borderless world, without national boundaries.

We just need to give them an enabling environment, a levelplaying field, a system where reward will be based on merit and hard work, justice and equity and fair play. What the Igbos want is a fair play, not a border. We are free people. The whole world bu nke anyi. Africa should have been like India or China - just one country.

Now, let's debate. No insults.

When did the number of people from a group seeking secession who live outside their territory determine if sovereignty should be granted? Must every Igbo person vacate their place of abode and return to Igbo land in order to achieve independence? The stream of thought of most Africans bags for human clarity. Sometimes it downs on me that Africa is created for unending backwardness.

When will there be peace, love, fairness and merit in Nigeria. Will marginalizing ever stop. What will you do if you are in their shoes?

Dedetwo:


When did the number of people from a group seeking secession who live outside their territory determine if sovereignty should be granted? Must every Igbo person vacate their place of abode and return to Igbo land in order to achieve independence? The stream of thought of most Africans bags for human clarity. Sometimes it downs on me that Africa is created for unending backwardness.

Honestly my brother I have given up.

I marvel at the mentality of the people I share this European created country with.

we don't need to look for it or avoid it, we only need to make sure the country work for everybody that way we would be happy, even in the new country we seek, the only thing we want there is peace, security and progress if we can find it while we were together it will be sweater, that is my believe. and by the way don't tell me to tell my leaders we should both be telling our leaders. thanks

christopher123:
Trust me Nigerians many do not want to stay together, and do not say seccesion will not happen because if it can happen in France where Monoco left, Malaysia where Singapore Left, UK, where Ireland, wales etc left...Ethiopia where Eritrea left , USSR, you know the story, India where Pakistan,Bengal, Bangladesh left

Why do you think it can happen in Nigeria...If it can happen in Senegal where Gambia left... It will happen here

To avoid it, tell your leaders to be honest, be just and equity

When will there be peace, love, fairness and merit in Nigeria. Will marginalizing ever stop. What will you do if you are in their shoes? What is your advice to the people of southeast in the middle of their quagmire

Coldie:
Buhari closed Nigerian borders. But go up north to a lot of border towns, nothing is happening goods are still going to and fro.

According to stats the border closure is only being effective in the south. Ask yourself that since they closed the borders how come in the south almost every time people are being caught by customs but how many people have been caught in the north.

This deceive and cheating in this Nigeria thats going on won't happen forever.

Only in the southern Nigeria. The northerners in the leadership position in Nigeria will never undertake any governmental policy that will hurt their brethren in Niger and Chad.