Very Good Read. Ibenos , Obolos, Orons have long been marginalized by this Ibibio people now the silly OP is calling all of them Ibibio.
Imagine that ! and the thread came at a politically tense period .the former governor akpbio really divided the state . I guarantee you that if there was no sense of marginalization or disunity in the state ,this thread would have been peaceful . and even if the OP said the entire akwa cross is Oron,efik ,anang or ibibio,everyone would have peacefully accepted and laughed it off. but this thread came at a tense period . imagine marginalizing someone out of hatred and then turn around and say that they are one.even accuse the person you are hating and marginalizing as the hater .such audacity! and alot of the dolts on this thread lack insight to decipher why this thread is wrong in every way .
You are not getting the point. No one disputes the fact that we are indeed from the same lineage. We eat EXACTLY the same food, we have similar words and phrases in our dialects, etc. BUT we do not have an umbrella name like you Igbos. Calling all of us Ibibios or Efiks or Annangs is like calling all Igbos Arochukwus. How would you like that That's the point we are trying to drive into some skulls here.
These are all the heros of the thread .Why do we have to fight each other ? you know in your hearts that Oron is not ibibio and Ibibio is not Oron and anag is not efik and efik is not ibibio. You know that the right term to use is Dialects of Akwa cross ,not dialects of ibibio" So why do you make simpe things complicated ? You know in your hearts that Oron is marginalized and Oron is suppose to produce the governor .So why do you support evil? Just think about it .Oron is marginalized and at such a time of political tension you had the guts to create such an inciteful thread and expect that the Oronians would be quiet about such fallacy. If Akpabio had not divided the state in such callous manner,in fact everyone would agree that we are all ibeno and there'll be no problem at all . Oron has been marginalized and you are accusing Oron of the hatred when they are only reacting to the injustice. does that make any sense to you? Just think about it . the chaiment and commisioners have no money to do much . the big buck stops at the top and Oron is being prevented from having access to it . The Oron people themselves are simply their own worst enemies .instead of uniting and supporting each other they prefer to play second fiddle . Oron has always loved and helped ibibio and annang. For example otu Toyo was the one who gave akpabio the governorship ticket. Late senator Victor Akan sited the alscon company at ikot abasi. Senator Victor Akan supported Clement Isong instead of supporting his own brother "Ambe Bassey" instead of Oron people speaking out against the injustice ,many Oronians either support umana or udom or akpabio. It's a waste of my time even supporting Oron . I have to move on without looking back because if you try to help they'll be the one to sabotage or even kill you . It's clear that Oron people prefer to be slaves than masters .Oron people are the only ones that akwa ibom is one . others are doing things to further their own tribe ,only Oron slaves for others in the name of akwa cross unity. To all the Oronians ,I hereby wish you goodluck as you settle as second class citizens and second fiddles in a state and country you generate the highest revenue and have the greatest potential. stvpid people
hmm...una still wan carry this mata enta this new year? Nawaoo, all i know is that whether oron,efik or anang abi ibibio, all of una be the same just like igbos that have different types,is not what exactly u hear in abia that u gonna hear in anambra or enugu or imo or delta or rivers and so on...come on!
wtfCode: hmm...una still wan carry this mata enta this new year? Nawaoo, all i know is that whether oron,efik or anang abi ibibio, all of una be the same just like igbos that have different types,is not what exactly u hear in abia that u gonna hear in anambra or enugu or imo or delta or rivers and so on...come on!
I don't blame you but IBB and Calabar river.but know one thing, the worst insult to an Oronman is to call hin 'onwi ibibi' ie ibibioman. Even an ibibioman will be seriously ofended.
Most ibibios are cowards and gay and like taking diick up their asses while most Ibibio girls are cheap prostitutes . Ibibios are not as powerful and strong as Oronians ,both mentally and physically. twerp. an Anng man developed uyo. Akpabio killed ibibios like chicken and you still worship him as your God. aren't you ashamed? Ibibios are only good at multiplying like rabbits and doing house boy and house girl. Ibibios will remain slaves forever.
kk ur ugly short,cultish ,bleaching gals dat prostitutes everywhere,go to marina,nazarro all in oron even ibaka u oron people r just dispeakeable 2nd classers
Enough with the Insults! These differences has already been discussed & explained in a previous threads years ago. OP Fratermathy U should have researched here on Nairaland instead & would have gotten the accurate information to avoid this conflict. Some posters from either tribes have tried to explain the errors but not quite. IBIBIOs, EFIKS & ANNANG are not the same not just because of languages but each practice different cultures and tradition and have different cultural beliefs separate from each other and so they have never been ONE under the same umbrella. As someone who has lived in the 3 region I had explained & given examples in the previous threads. READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo
EzeUche__:
Mehn if people think the Igbo are divided, then they should look at the Ibibio speaking peoples.
Efik Ibibio Annang Oron Eket Ibeno
Yet they all view themselves as separate groups even though they speak the same language with minor dialect variations.
pleep: exactly! It's beyond silly. You may remember the recent conflict in akwa ibom between ibibios and annangs. We were killing each other over silly rat politicians and the ibbios said they would vote for their guy even in prison. And don't even get me started on the oron, who think they are some lost tribe from fvcking eygpt.
Ibibiogrl DO YOU SPEAK any of these languages you listed above? If not why are you confidently saying that they understand each other with just minor dialectical differences? Please don't compare your Ikwere/Igbo war to us , because it is not the same situation. Efik, Ibibio and Annang are just like Spanish, Italian and French, the are from the same language family but different. An Efik, Ibibio or Annang can understand parts of each others language, but not fully escept they have lived in the others region. Annang has 3 dialects in it language, also Ibibio has dialects example Eket/Ibeno is a dialect of Ibibio. Even though Eket language can not be fully understood by an Ibibio, they have never denied being Ibibio, they regard themselves as a subgroup of Ibibio, speak Ibibio as a second language and practice the same traditions as Ibibio. Oron regard themselves as a subgroup of Efik, they dress like and practice the same traditions as Efik, although their language can only be understood by themselves; which is why they speak Efik as a second language. They 3 main groups Annang, Efik and Ibibio ARE SEPARATE not just because of different languages but because they also practice different traditions and cultures.
Re: Mixed Tribes by ibibiogrl: 1 year & 8 months Aloy.Emeka:
No difference. Efiks and ibibios are the same. Both understand each others dialect, same language, similar culture and very tiny differences. Even the neighboring igbo don't know the difference. Efiks and ibibios are the least violent specie of Nigerians. Ibibiogrl There are many differences between Efik and Ibibio, difference in dressing Efik wear a gown and Elaborate hair dress etc. Ibibios tie 2 wrappers with a blouse, like most south easterners but without coral beads. Also difference in marriage traditions, Efiks coach the bride to be in fattening rooms and there are ceremonies before the actual marriage, ibibios don't. Efiks tradition is Rule byEkpe secret society, Ibibios don't have Ekpe, different traditional gods and different greetings. There are many other differences, the only similarity between Efik and Ibibio is the food and language; although most young Ibibios growing up in Akwa Ibom will only understand a little Efik in the future, since Efik language isn't used in Akwa Ibom. The most similar ethnic group in Akwa Ibom to Efik is Oron. Please refer to this websites for pictures; Efik http://esopefik.tripod.com/efiktradition.html and Efik http://www.namywedding.com/dream-weddings/22, Ibibio http://ekaandtommy.com/8/5-TRUE-5.htm & Ibibio https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/16
Like I said it's not the same as you who denied your selves just because of dialectical differences.
EzeUche__:
As this Ibibio girl has clearly shown, these people are more divided than the Ndigbo.
They even want a new state out of such a small state! grin
I luv Ibibio girls though.
And yes I am more Ibibio than her. grin
Ibibiogrl Itai state is old news, actualy 2 state was suppose to be created from Cross River state not one. Also it's not the same as ndi Igbo war, because you guys just have dialectical differences, but you pratice the same traditions.
Ibibiogrl Efiks really came from Cameroon because even in Cross River state Efiks share ancient cultures & tradition with Ejaghams, another ethnic group in Cross River ; whose land stretches from Cameroon to Cross River, so they located both in Nigeria and Cameroon. If they were separated from each other & were all Nigerian groups as U claim undecided Why are their traditional practices & beliefs so different? Why is Ekpe Alien to Ibibio & Annangs? Efiks have their own traditional gods & mermaid spirit, which is alien to Ibibio & Annangs. Annangs have their own taboo & traditional gods which are alien to Ibibios & Efiks. If they were from the same origin ancient traditional practices & beliefs would still remain the same, other groups in Nigeria who claim to be different still practice the same or similar tradition. EXAMPLE OF DIFFERENCES IN DANCE CULTURE
Will you be surprised if I find Annang people accusing Ibibio people of cannibalism? undecided
Ibibiogrl
That is Annang, if it was filmed abroad, then there might be Ibibio youths joining in the Dance but the dance is traditionaly Annang dance called Utah. This is Efik dance Ekombi
Annang cannot accused Ibibio of being cannibals because cannibalism was an ancient Annang tradition.
Ibibio & Efik May only understand the basic part of Annang that is similar to either of those languages, just like Native speaker of English would understand parts of German language that is similar to English & vice versa Example quoting from the Thread which was open by an Annang guy who wanted to know the differences.
pleep But I want to ask you what specific differences do the annang and ibibio have. Like words that don't have the same root or cultural practices that are very different?
ibibiogrl
Traditionally Annang have their own beliefs like dance/instrument(blowing the elephant horn and dance shaking their waste standing upright), masquerades and gods which is different and separate from Ibibio ones(Ibibio dance shaking their waste and buttocks mending waste downwards). Annang traditions has to do more with juju practice, also their juju is said to be 1 of the most if not the most powerful in Nigeria, that's 1 reason Ibibios don't mess with Annangs spiritualy. 2nd & most popular reason is cannibalism. Which is why others like Ibibios dont want to step foot in an Annang area. The cannibalism fear was worst during and after the colonial period. Annang and Ibibio were never truly one, your parent will know more about typical Annang traditions.
But having lived in Abak & Calabar for a while I can tell you the differences in language. Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke. Words can also be totaly different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.
Example of sentences- English:-1) My house is were we all are/We're all in my house. 2) This is my house Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie. 2)Ilung ida ade ami Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba. 2) Ufok mmi ado mi Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu. 2) Ebiet idung mmi edi emi.
Most Ibibios & Efiks Do Not Understand Annang escept the have lived in the Annang region, but yet still language is the most similar aspect of the 3 Groups as their traditions is Completely DIFFERENT!
We are not talking about oil here,we are talking about our true identity, we will be unites in the future, is just that wrong history has been passed fro. Generation, we are all Ibibio even the former obong of calabar confirm it when they was a fight between ikot Offiong and ITU, if you claim that your related to ejagham take note that your saying that the efik is part of atam which we will never agree to that. To whombit may concern Ibibio is a unique entity it is made up of efik, iron,annang,eket and andoni.part of Ibibio are in cameroun, listen and carefully Ibibio man had never been a slave to any body. Come on friends let be united and stop this discrimination is not helping us let go back in time we all know who we are stop discrimination. Anywhere it has been observe that true dons of efik don't engaged in this kind of discussion, am sure most of the people children whose mother is from other part of the country. We'll I don't care the level of discrimination all I knw we are one.i wish foreigners can educate those making noise here .education is what the need proper education is what they need.please our Igbo neighbour educate our Ibibio son and daughters from efik, iron and annang that they are ibibio quote author=effty post=39622268]You are d goat here. The oil in Mbo LGA dey ur papa farm?[/quote]
Good day house. I own a translation company and I am looking for English Ibibio/Efik translator. It is a paid job and on part time. Location is not a barrier as it is going to be through mail/online. 07037348181. ebony4pink@gmail.com
Are you sick? Since when did Oron people become Ibibio? And since when did Oro language or even Efik language become an Ibibio dialect?
Just consider the following facts:
1) Oro people speak oro language, they also generally understand Efik language but only because the bible was first translated into Efik, so the missionaries used Efik to spread the gospel. Even in the most rural parts of Oro, people can understand efik, but ibibio is some irritating sound that no one relates to.
2) Ibibio is a dialect of Efik, not the other way around. Efik is the main language, it is understood by everyone, Efiks, Oros, Ibibios, Anangs, etc. The Efik bible is what is used from Ikot Ekpene to Ikot Ansa, so I wonder whichin alternate universe you live in where Ibibio is a language and Efik is a dialect?
3) What are the characteristics of a language, as opposed to a dialect? Efik is studied in university, Efik has poetry and artistic music from Inyang Nta Henshaw to Peter Effiom, plays and playwrights, literary luminaries, Professors of Efik language such as E.N. Amaku, Efik alphabets and etymology. Jesus, what is ibibio? Ibibio is a barbaric dialect of the efik language.
Comparing Efik and Ibibio is like comparing Queens Engligh to Pidgin English, just because more idiots speak pidgin English doesn't make it the language, it is still the sub-language/dialect of proper English.
Maybe becuase you have started getting some oil money (which you don't even produce a drop of oil, oil is produced by Oros, Ibenos, and Obolos) and you are no longer houseboy and housegirl, you think you can come on nairaland and denigrate other people's culture and language? You better think again.
The Ibibios, up until recently, have been something of 2nd class citizens in that region. Because they live in the hinterland (despite being in a predominantly Riverine/coastal region) , they had the following misfortunes:
1) The Efiks and Oros are coastal people and their main commodity during the slave trade era were ibibios.
The main language of the Lower Cross River Basin is EFIK. The dialects of Efik include Ibibio and Anang. Some related languages to Efik are Oro and Ibeno.
You would have made your points without necessarily resorting to name calling and denigration of a people. What would have been a scholarly presentation has been blighted by rabid use of foul language from the tainted lenses of an ethnic jingoist. Education is supposed to purge you of these primordial proclivities.
To think that Fratermathy who isn't even from Crs or Aks has the audacity to misinform people all over the world is appalling and nauseating. You should modify your story because it's no small matter to alter by incompetent research and poor journalism the identities and history of so many ethnicities just to become relevant on nairaland. We're all close ethnic groups but distinctive in various ways as well. The nerve to categorize Efik as a subset of Ibibio-ever heard of Efik Eburutu?? Man you just missed the mark by a million miles,research again and modify please. Peace
Are you sick? Since when did Oron people become Ibibio? And since when did Oro language or even Efik language become an Ibibio dialect?
Just consider the following facts:
1) Oro people speak oro language, they also generally understand Efik language but only because the bible was first translated into Efik, so the missionaries used Efik to spread the gospel. Even in the most rural parts of Oro, people can understand efik, but ibibio is some irritating sound that no one relates to.
2) Ibibio is a dialect of Efik, not the other way around. Efik is the main language, it is understood by everyone, Efiks, Oros, Ibibios, Anangs, etc. The Efik bible is what is used from Ikot Ekpene to Ikot Ansa, so I wonder which alternate universe you live in where Ibibio is a language and Efik is a dialect?
3) What are the characteristics of a language, as opposed to a dialect? Efik is studied in university, Efik has poetry and artistic music from Inyang Nta Henshaw to Peter Effiom, plays and playwrights, literary luminaries, Professors of Efik language such as E.N. Amaku, Efik alphabets and etymology. Jesus, what is ibibio? Ibibio is a barbaric dialect of the efik language.
Comparing Efik and Ibibio is like comparing Queens Engligh to Pidgin English, just because more idiots speak pidgin English doesn't make it the language, it is still the sub-language/dialect of proper English.
Maybe becuase you have started getting some oil money (which you don't even produce a drop of oil, oil is produced by Oros, Ibenos, and Obolos) and you are no longer houseboy and housegirl, you think you can come on nairaland and denigrate other people's culture and language? You better think again.
The Ibibios, up until recently, have been something of 2nd class citizens in that region. Because they live in the hinterland (despite being in a predominantly Riverine/coastal region) , they had the following misfortunes:
1) The Efiks and Oros are coastal people and their main commodity during the slave trade era were ibibios. They sold ibibios to Europe slave traders and this led to the generally perception of the ibibios as inferior. Since they had no access to the coast and were mere commodity.
2) During the colonial and missionary era, the Europeans first settled in the coast - Lagos, Calabar, Oron etc. Because of this, Education and Administrative generally went to people from the coastal regions, hence the reason why you find the oldest schools in these areas - Hope Waddell Training Institute Calabar, Methodist Boys High School Oron, St. Patrick's College Calabar, Kings College Lagos, etc. Because of this, the ibibios had no access to Education until the late 20th century. This naturally placed them at a disadvantage to the Efiks and Oros, who are coastal people and had earlier interaction with Europeans, embraced western education early, etc.
Today, you see jokers come on the internet to proclaim a barbaric dialect as a language. Can you tell us even one seminal work done in the ibibio dialect? None. You think a sound is considered a language because it is chanted by numerous monkeys? What a joke. The main language of the Lower Cross River Basin is EFIK. The dialects of Efik include Ibibio and Anang. Some related languages to Efik are Oro and Ibeno.
Blackking98 & nsiba this was the most insulting post But you can Read from page 1 for more others. Also scroll up to read my response on page 16. So next time you accuse me of disrupting your unity campaigns, Remember this thread & replies like this
Blackking98 & nsiba this was the most insulting post But you can Read from page 1 for more others. Also scroll up to read my response on page 16. So next time you accuse me of disrupting your unity campaigns, Remember this thread & replies like this
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Unity is not an option but what has to been has to be done, but mind you I can only deal with Efiks, I don't have time for any abominable ORON bas-tard, he can remain in whatever shit-hole he finds himself in if he sees no need for unity
Unity is not an option but what has to be done has to be done, but mind you I can only deal with Efiks, I don't have time for any abominable ORON bas-tard, he can remain in whatever shit-hole he finds himself in
nsiba: . Unity is not an option but what has to been has to be done, but mind you I can only deal with Efiks, I don't have time for any abominable ORON bas-tard, he can remain in whatever shit-hole he finds himself in
But they are brothers like I've been saying & so you can't split them. Just like Eket and Ibibio. Also you should have noticed that Efiks were saying similar in this thread, ifnot then Read the other thread about Ini Edo to really see Efiks mindset about your unity campaigns.
But they are brothers like I've been saying & so you can't split them. Just like Eket and Ibibio.
. Am particular with only the oron man that is interested in unity those not interested can go 4k themselves Though the thread is old let me take my time and put every insultive words from any useless Efiks vagabonds that were kicked out from their original stock and ended up selling prawns along the estuaries of cross river and only fortunate to have met with the European merchants first
MisterSols: To think that Fratermathy who isn't even from Crs or Aks has the audacity to misinform people all over the world is appalling and nauseating. You should modify your story because it's no small matter to alter by incompetent research and poor journalism the identities and history of so many ethnicities just to become relevant on nairaland. We're all close ethnic groups but distinctive in various ways as well. The nerve to categorize Efik as a subset of Ibibio-ever heard of Efik Eburutu?? Man you just missed the mark by a million miles,research again and modify please. Peace
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Tell me d meaning of Efik Eburutu? Some say you got while in Burutu(ijaw) some say ututu( IBO land) where do you father say you got it from? Don't tell me any stupid oriental, Palestine, Jewish 4kin heritage I am Ibibio to the core and know my root Tell me d 4k where you father say u come from?
Blackking98 & nsiba this was the most insulting post But you can Read from page 1 for more others. Also scroll up to read my response on page 16. So next time you accuse me of disrupting your unity campaigns, Remember this thread & replies like this
lol. He is an attention seeker. Out of ten Akwa ibomites, seven are advocating for unity with efiks while three are against it, out of ten efiks seven are also for unity while three are against it. As usual the majority will have it's way, the low life you quoted there is just ranting rubbish, you've not seen anything yet, I live in calabar and I've come across efiks who despise Akwa ibomites (ibibios precisely) with passion, they even hate us more than some nothern and central Cross riverians do, but they are in a very little tiny insignificant number of Efik people, the majority of Efik and Oro people have no problem with us, there are some things you should just look and keep going, don't mind that clown, without ibibios central and northern cross Riverians would have pushed the efiks into the ocean by now and taken over the state but their only saving grace is the overwhelming numbers of ibibios in the state, let him keep ranting what he doesn't know.
Unity is not an option but what has to been has to be done, but mind you I can only deal with Efiks, I don't have time for any abominable ORON bas-tard, he can remain in whatever shit-hole he finds himself in
unity is a must. The efiks and oros are quite funny, some of them like castigating ibibios knowing fully well that without ibibios they have no political relevance and influence in Nigeria, the Annang have realized this and are greatly benefitting, the eket/ibeno people realized this when general Esuene was govenor of old Cross river, I live in calabar and slowly most efiks are realizing that for them to stand a chance against a United nothern and central Cross river they'll have to accept more Akwa ibomites as indigiene, Oro people are still being needlessly stubborn when they know they don't have the numbers to get what they want and aligning only with the already weakened efiks won't take them far.
You shouldn't masquerade your personal unsubstantiated research as facts and present it to the public. It will open you to scrutiny. Most of your assertions were glaringly wrong.
Nsibidi isn't an Ibibio concept. The origin of Nsibidi is from the Ekoi's and was widely used by the Ekpe members of the Efiks and Egbe/Mgbe members from the Ekoi's to secretly communicate using symbols.
Ibibio's don't have Ekpe or Obon fraternities, they use Ekpo
Hope Waddell Training Institution , Calabar and Methodist Boys High School Oron are not in Ibibioland, and doesn't support your premise.
Ibibio language can not be written, it has no set of grammatical rules, they are still trying to invent an Ibibio etymology- something that the British Missionaries abandoned due to the difficulties and complexities involved. Efik language is still being used in Churches throughout Akwa Ibom whenever the Bible is being read or hymns are being sung. This gave the Efik language a cultural superiority over Ibibio language, something similar to the spread of Russian language over the former Soviet Republics.
Obongship is a concept the Ibibio's borrowed from the Efiks recently. They never used to call their heads or rulers Obong as a title.
There are lots of second and third generation Ibibio's living in Calabar South, Akamkpa, Odukpani and Akpabuyo, but most of them have adopted Efik names or speak Efik as their main language as a result of cultural assimilation over the years.
The origin of the word Ibibio is from Efik. It means the SHORT PEOPLE. Ibio-ibio =Short short.
The origin of the word Efik is from Ibibio. It means the OPPRESSORS. Fik= Press. E-fik nyin= They oppressed us.
Historical the Efik ship merchants used to raid the Ibibio hinterlands and catch Ibibio people for the Slave merchants while the rest were sent to the farm plantations in Akpabuyo as servants. It was this notoriety that made the Ibibio's to call them Ethinking
. What a Great fool you are, do you know history? I know you were born lazy and lacks independent thinking, go and see the records of slave exported out of calabar ports. If you r too daft too research you can use wikipedia it is also free You will see that Igbos were the main export while you lucky lazy ass ancestors expelled from their kindred were middle men for mainly the Arrochukwu slave dealers Why do u people claim to have heritage in Cuba, Jamaica and some carribean countries if not that you sold yourselves into slavery Have you heard of any Ibibio heritage in Jamaica, Cuba, Brazil or the carribean? Go get old photos of any of your numerous artificial kings, either Creek town, Duke town or whatever town cause we all know that every man then that was able to secure patronage from ordinary merchants from Liverpool, London, Bristol calls himself a king Check how tall they were? I have one in particular whose father called himself king yet he was a servant to a merchant in his ship, can the Oba of Benin tolerate such abomination back then? Ibibio means brief cause we never tolerated nonsense that was why ur vagabonds ancestors were kicked out and Never were we slaves to ur pricks we worked our way to where we are.. Your airport and Stadium is named after who? All d money ur ancestors made who dominates cross river south? Just like Arrochukwu that is cursed same is calabar because of your ancestors greed for cowries, matchboxes, mirrors, tobaccos from Europeans Be grateful to Ibibios you cursed slowpoke and let them heal your cursed land unlike how fellow Igbo's have made Arrochukwu a cursed ground
princesslucy83: Efik: Categorised as Riverain Ibibio. This dialect is spoken by the Efik people of Cross-River State. Although it is a dialect of Ibibio, Efik is recognised as a distinct ethnic nationality in Nigeria! This is why Ibibio people from Cross-River State are referred to as Efik/Ibibio or Ibibio-Efik people. This dialect is also studied at tertiary institutions in Cross Rivers State. Efik is spoken widely in Calabar, the Cross River State capital as a central language. The Efik dialect is mutually intelligible with Ibibio. In fact, inexperienced listeners and speakers will conclude that Efik and Ibibio are exactly the same. While they are intelligible, variations exist in the language that other the native speakers themselves can truly spot. The Efik King, the Obong of Calabar, is a first class ruler that is seen as the Efik most paramount monarch.
OP, Please do your research well. there is nothing like Riverian Ibibio knows as Efik. there is also nothing like Ibibio people from Cross River State. Good you mention that the EFIK KING IS A FIRST CLASS RULER what class is an Ibibio ruler?
. That was then your elders shameless fights from time immemorial over the obongship of calabar even going to courts have rendered it Useless Which local government in the entire federation has three Paramount rulers Obong of calabar is a clan head in Ibibio land
Keneeby: Ibibios begat the Efiks. Efiks emigrate from Uruan. Am proudly Uruan man and am happily Ibibio. Ibibio is the mother of all their dialects.
They never migrated but were kicked out from the rest of the folks and up till tomorrow you can still see the same squabbling spirit in most of the early family fighting, killing and running from one place to another creek town, duke town, henshaw, akpabuyo, Jamestown just see how they have ridiculed the obong office. Courts pronouncing who the obong should be, no wonder it was long downgraded Disputes upon disputes
Are you sick? Since when did Oron people become Ibibio? And since when did Oro language or even Efik language become an Ibibio dialect?
Just consider the following facts:
1) Oro people speak oro language, they also generally understand Efik language but only because the bible was first translated into Efik, so the missionaries used Efik to spread the gospel. Even in the most rural parts of Oro, people can understand efik, but ibibio is some irritating sound that no one relates to.
2) Ibibio is a dialect of Efik, not the other way around. Efik is the main language, it is understood by everyone, Efiks, Oros, Ibibios, Anangs, etc. The Efik bible is what is used from Ikot Ekpene to Ikot Ansa, so I wonder which alternate universe you live in where Ibibio is a language and Efik is a dialect?
3) What are the characteristics of a language, as opposed to a dialect? Efik is studied in university, Efik has poetry and artistic music from Inyang Nta Henshaw to Peter Effiom, plays and playwrights, literary luminaries, Professors of Efik language such as E.N. Amaku, Efik alphabets and etymology. Jesus, what is ibibio? Ibibio is a barbaric dialect of the efik language.
Comparing Efik and Ibibio is like comparing Queens Engligh to Pidgin English, just because more idiots speak pidgin English doesn't make it the language, it is still the sub-language/dialect of proper English.
Maybe becuase you have started getting some oil money (which you don't even produce a drop of oil, oil is produced by Oros, Ibenos, and Obolos) and you are no longer houseboy and housegirl, you think you can come on nairaland and denigrate other people's culture and language? You better think again.
The Ibibios, up until recently, have been something of 2nd class citizens in that region. Because they live in the hinterland (despite being in a predominantly Riverine/coastal region) , they had the following misfortunes:
1) The Efiks and Oros are coastal people and their main commodity during the slave trade era were ibibios. They sold ibibios to Europe slave traders and this led to the generally perception of the ibibios as inferior. Since they had no access to the coast and were mere commodity.
2) During the colonial and missionary era, the Europeans first settled in the coast - Lagos, Calabar, Oron etc. Because of this, Education and Administrative generally went to people from the coastal regions, hence the reason why you find the oldest schools in these areas - Hope Waddell Training Institute Calabar, Methodist Boys High School Oron, St. Patrick's College Calabar, Kings College Lagos, etc. Because of this, the ibibios had no access to Education until the late 20th century. This naturally placed them at a disadvantage to the Efiks and Oros, who are coastal people and had earlier interaction with Europeans, embraced western education early, etc.
Today, you see jokers come on the internet to proclaim a barbaric dialect as a language. Can you tell us even one seminal work done in the ibibio dialect? None. You think a sound is considered a language because it is chanted by numerous monkeys?
What a joke.
The main language of the Lower Cross River Basin is EFIK. The dialects of Efik include Ibibio and Anang. Some related languages to Efik are Oro and Ibeno.
let me start with saying you are a product of a hopeless wretched 60-year-old public drunk who rammed a notorious har-lot on the back of dump truck and many years later hear you are fulfilling your parent gene.
1. Oron is only muted by non-human beings, only animals from the bottom of the Atlantic ocean.
2. IBIBIO is GOD to Efik, Efik only used their early exposure cause they won by just a vote when it was decided by the council and considering the fact that that the bickering was seen as more of an ego thing between the two. oron was never considered cause it makes a sane being to puke whenever its uttered.
3. What do you expect from an animal who has never written jamb to say? you are busy hawking rat poison on the street of God knows where while the University of Uyo is churning out Graduate in BA B.Sc (Hon) EfikIbibio. When Christiana Essien was being revered in the whole of Africa your drunk of a father and harlot of a mother were busy squatting all of you in a crab hole.
4. Comparing Efik to Ibibio is like comparing British English to American English......Oron fit only for crayfish eating mother4kin sea animals
5. I can see why you are " quarter to die" but you aint seen shit yet! you miserable scoundrels that see no big deal in sleeping with your blood sisters, your uncles sleeping with your mom and sees no qualms prostituting the entire country and your men not just being houseboys but selling their crayfish for peanuts you have the audacity to talk.....4k you and your lowlife good for nothing culture
When Eyo Uyo was talking, when Justice Udo Udoma, when Clement Isong( CBN), When Nigeria's Army no.1 (NA1) Brig.Bassey Wellington, Gen.Phillip Effiong....where were your houseboys and crayfish fathers? Where has your fortune gotten you nonentities to You have always been a bunch of imbeciles
1. Ikot abasi, Urauans, Oku Ibokus, itu/ibino ibom have no access to the sea, when I say you are an animal say ' thank you sir'. Ibibios were sold as slaves yet you go to jamaica you hear of efik slaves, calabar this calabar that, go to Trinidad and Tobago, Cuba and many of the carriebeans what do yo hear is it ibibio or Efik/calabar heritage? Go and check up the majority of slaves that went through the calabar port who were they? Imagine the European passed oro nation and never consider berthing at any of your shore instead they went inner, your people are cursed animals
2. Where have your interactions gotten you imbeciles to, thousands of you still disgrace the states in prostitution even down to useless cameroon, and Gabon, up till now your houseboys mentality is still a shame to this state even your fishing business cannot be compared to those in uruan, itu with your beggar mentality to even ordinary Ghanaians offering you peanuts for your catch When the British Telecom mast was mounted in Itu first in Africa your ancestors were still breeding on canoes, see the schools you mentioned yet you are still as primitive as satans demons
Imbeciles, scattered brains, scallywags coming online to show that they are products of garbage truck sex, talking inanities from the bottom of the seafloor. 4K UR FATHER HIS FATHER HIS FATHERS FATHERS and all your bastards thinking you can stop A MOVING TRAIN
The IBIBIOS will burn you all to the ground if you think you can run us down, we dont bragg, we dont pick up fight but WE NEVER RUN AWAY FROM FIGHTS
I hope you WILL respond to me the world is on lockdown come let me tell you how USELESS YOUR ANCESTORS were......GOD PUNISH YOU INFINITELY
Blackking98: lol. He is an attention seeker. Out of ten Akwa ibomites, seven are advocating for unity with efiks while three are against it, out of ten efiks seven are also for unity while three are against it. As usual the majority will have it's way, the low life you quoted there is just ranting rubbish, you've not seen anything yet, I live in calabar and I've come across efiks who despise Akwa ibomites (ibibios precisely) with passion, they even hate us more than some nothern and central Cross riverians do, but they are in a very little tiny insignificant number of Efik people, the majority of Efik and Oro people have no problem with us, there are some things you should just look and keep going, don't mind that clown, without ibibios central and northern cross Riverians would have pushed the efiks into the ocean by now and taken over the state but their only saving grace is the overwhelming numbers of ibibios in the state, let him keep ranting what he doesn't know.
Who are these majority Efik Have you read through this thread How about the Ini Edo Speak for yourself Only! Note that there are many more of thread like this. Oron were never part of Ibibio and WORST now because they believe that they have been cheated out of governorship of AKS. I've got Oron family friends that I grew up together with. I know they will prefer to be back with Cross River State, if not for the water that divides their lands. They were lukewarm with Eket but have since turned against Eket for uniting and agreeing to be a subgroup of Ibibio. Nsiba has now turn to my male counterpart , I believe he is a true Ibibio son, that can not keep quiet to see his Ancestors insulted as this As I've been saying you are in between because you are half & mostly raise on your mother side. Therefore only speak for yourself Only. Here is an example from this very page;
These are all the heros of the thread .Why do we have to fight each other ? you know in your hearts that Oron is not ibibio and Ibibio is not Oron and anag is not efik and efik is not ibibio. You know that the right term to use is Dialects of Akwa cross ,not dialects of ibibio" So why do you make simpe things complicated ? You know in your hearts that Oron is marginalized and Oron is suppose to produce the governor .So why do you support evil? Just think about it .Oron is marginalized and at such a time of political tension you had the guts to create such an inciteful thread and expect that the Oronians would be quiet about such fallacy. If Akpabio had not divided the state in such callous manner,in fact everyone would agree that we are all ibeno and there'll be no problem at all . Oron has been marginalized and you are accusing Oron of the hatred when they are only reacting to the injustice. does that make any sense to you? Just think about it . the chaiment and commisioners have no money to do much . the big buck stops at the top and Oron is being prevented from having access to it . The Oron people themselves are simply their own worst enemies .instead of uniting and supporting each other they prefer to play second fiddle . Oron has always loved and helped ibibio and annang. For example otu Toyo was the one who gave akpabio the governorship ticket. Late senator Victor Akan sited the alscon company at ikot abasi. Senator Victor Akan supported Clement Isong instead of supporting his own brother "Ambe Bassey" instead of Oron people speaking out against the injustice ,many Oronians either support umana or udom or akpabio. It's a waste of my time even supporting Oron . I have to move on without looking back because if you try to help they'll be the one to sabotage or even kill you . It's clear that Oron people prefer to be slaves than masters .Oron people are the only ones that akwa ibom is one . others are doing things to further their own tribe ,only Oron slaves for others in the name of akwa cross unity. To all the Oronians ,I hereby wish you goodluck as you settle as second class citizens and second fiddles in a state and country you generate the highest revenue and have the greatest potential. stvpid people Signed , Propeller
Who are these majority Efik Have you read through this thread How about the Ini Edo Speak for yourself Only! Note that there are many more of thread like this. Oron were never part of Ibibio and WORST now because they believe that they have been cheated out of governorship of AKS. I've got Oron family friends that I grew up together with. I know they will prefer to be back with Cross River State, if not for the water that divides their lands. They were lukewarm with Eket but have since turned against Eket for uniting and agreeing to be a subgroup of Ibibio. Nsiba has now turn to my male counterpart , I believe he is a true Ibibio son, that can not keep quiet to see his Ancestors insulted as this As I've been saying you are in between because you are half & mostly raise on your mother side. Therefore only speak for yourself Only. Here is an example from this very page;
your question is funny, it's like asking someone who stays in owerri how many igbos or which majority igbos he has met or asking someone who stays in ibadan how many Yorubas or which many Yorubas he has met. I live in calabar which is Efik land, my mother is Efik so that particular sentence you made is seriously dumb. I do see the insults from some pained efiks and oro people, u see only the insults online and I stay in Nigeria and I see the insults both online and offline more than you and I believe I'm in a better place to tell you the truth because I stay here currently compared to you isn't here and you're using your past experiences here to talk, I equally have parents from both sides so I can experience what both sides feel or think better compared to you. Like I said such Efik or Oro people who spew hate against us at any given time are in the minority, the majority have seen without the ibibios they're actually powerless and not influencial, even though some might dislike us they keep their mouths shut as they know they need us not withstanding. With time the Oro will realize that it is useless fighting we ibibios cus firstly they'll never win, secondly they should negotiate and play smart politics if they want to get the govenorship seat instead of being really annoying and starting fights they know they can't win. The Annang and eket have seen the benefits of aligning with us ibibios, I live in calabar which is Efik territory and my mother is Efik(before you ask me any silly questions again) and slowly they're realising they're better off siding with us than fighting against us, it's left with Oro If they want to join the winning team or keep being the black sheep. You don't need to reply every tom dick and Harry who claims to be Efik or Oro and starts insulting us, our competition should be with the kanuri,ijaw,tiv etc that's our class, not with a younger brother who will come to his/her senses sooner or later. I hope nsiba understands what I'm saying here
Blackking98: your question is funny, it's like asking someone who stays in owerri how many igbos or which majority igbos he has met or asking someone who stays in ibadan how many Yorubas or which many Yorubas he has met. I live in calabar which is Efik land, my mother is Efik so that particular sentence you made is seriously dumb. I do see the insults from some pained efiks and oro people, u see only the insults online and I stay in Nigeria and I see the insults both online and offline more than you and I believe I'm in a better place to tell you the truth because I stay here currently compared to you isn't here and you're using your past experiences here to talk, I equally have parents from both sides so I can experience what both sides feel or think better compared to you. Like I said such Efik or Oro people who spew hate against us at any given time are in the minority, the majority have seen without the ibibios they're actually powerless and not influencial, even though some might dislike us they keep their mouths shut as they know they need us not withstanding. With time the Oro will realize that it is useless fighting we ibibios cus firstly they'll never win, secondly they should negotiate and play smart politics if they want to get the govenorship seat instead of being really annoying and starting fights they know they can't win. The Annang and eket have seen the benefits of aligning with us ibibios, I live in calabar which is Efik territory and my mother is Efik(before you ask me any silly questions again) and slowly they're realising they're better off siding with us than fighting against us, it's left with Oro If they want to join the winning team or keep being the black sheep. You don't need to reply every tom dick and Harry who claims to be Efik or Oro and starts insulting us, our competition should be with the kanuri,ijaw,tiv etc that's our class, not with a younger brother who will come to his/her senses sooner or later. I hope nsiba understands what I'm saying here
Your mother is not Ejagham anymore So because I don't live in Nigeria, you think I don't know what's happening or like I don't have Efik family friends? Who told you Annangs have alingn with Ibibio?
This is Y U should've read this thread because I don't want to keep digging for my old Post. The guy Pleep who open that thread was campaigning for unity. He is 100% Annang & open the discussion because of what happened in the recent AKS election. His quote;
You may remember the recent conflict in akwa ibom between ibibios and annangs. We were killing each other over silly rat politicians and the ibbios said they would vote for their guy even in prison. And don't even get me started on the oron, who think they are some lost tribe from fvcking eygpt
Post where i said my mother was ejagham or shut it please, your memory is really wrapped. I said my father owns businesses in akampa which is ejagham territory and you're here yapping unnecessarily. Why do you enjoy portraying ibibios at odds with everyone of our sister tribes? Efik no, Oro no, Annang no, what is really wrong with your head? Why do you like using people's insignificant comments on nairaland to generalise hastily? How many Akwa ibomites in the rural areas know what nairaland is? Tell me that when you were in abak something happened or when you were in calabar something happened, tell me that the obong of Calabar threatened ibibios or a prominent Oro politician antagonized ibibios, stop digging up useless nairaland post to back up your wild claims, there are hundreds of positive post on this forum about good relationship of the ibibios with our sister tribes but you carefully ignore it and dig out the ones that are divisive, what is really your aim? Yes you don't live in Nigeria so you don't know what is happening, so because I have friends in the UK or Ukraine does that mean I will know better than someone is living there full-time? Please let your stay in America reflect in the way you reason and talk? I can't deal. According to you Efik,Annang and Oro don't like ibibios, are you happy now? By the way i notice 80% of this your wild claims is usually backed up with a quote from one insignificant scoundrel on nairaland, let me give you a simple advise, don't take what happens on nairaland to the generality that is how Nigerians interact with each other in real life, if in real life Nigerians were behaving like we do here on nairaland there would have been nothing like Nigeria. This is just a forum of about 3 million members,now let's just suppose the number of Akwa ibomites and efiks here are 500k(just random estimation), you're using the opinion of a few people to generalise on an issue concerning ethnic groups when combined are about atleast 15million in number. Do you think you're now making sense?
Your mother is not Ejagham anymore So because I don't live in Nigeria, you think I don't know what's happening or like I don't have Efik family friends? Who told you Annangs have alingn with Ibibio?
This is Y U should've read this thread because I don't want to keep digging for my old Post. The guy Pleep who open that thread was campaigning for unity. He is 100% Annang & open the discussion because of what happened in the recent AKS election. His quote;
Blackking98: Post where i said my mother was ejagham or shut it please, your memory is really wrapped. I said my father owns businesses in akampa which is ejagham territory and you're here yapping unnecessarily. Why do you enjoy portraying ibibios at odds with everyone of our sister tribes? Efik no, Oro no, Annang no, what is really wrong with your head? Why do you like using people's insignificant comments on nairaland to generalise hastily? How many Akwa ibomites in the rural areas know what nairaland is? Tell me that when you were in abak something happened or when you were in calabar something happened, tell me that the obong of Calabar threatened ibibios or a prominent Oro politician antagonized ibibios, stop digging up useless nairaland post to back up your wild claims, there are hundreds of positive post on this forum about good relationship of the ibibios with our sister tribes but you carefully ignore it and dig out the ones that are divisive, what is really your aim? Yes you don't live in Nigeria so you don't know what is happening, so because I have friends in the UK or Ukraine does that mean I will know better than someone is living there full-time? Please let your stay in America reflect in the way you reason and talk? I can't deal. According to you Efik,Annang and Oro don't like ibibios, are you happy now? By the way i notice 80% of this your wild claims is usually backed up with a quote from one insignificant scoundrel on nairaland, let me give you a simple advise, don't take what happens on nairaland to the generality that is how Nigerians interact with each other in real life, if in real life Nigerians were behaving like we do here on nairaland there would have been nothing like Nigeria. This is just a forum of about 3 million members,now let's just suppose the number of Akwa ibomites and efiks here are 500k(just random estimation), you're using the opinion of a few people to generalise on an issue concerning ethnic groups when combined are about atleast 15million in number. Do you think you're now making sense?
What is my business with Obong of Calabar or CRS? Again because I don't live in Nigeria, so you believe that I don't visit You keep accusing of me of researching on Wikipedia and online & now nairalandland How did I know about How AkwaCross name was coined? Do you know how many times I visit Nigeria each year If your mother is Efik, it explains everything completely U see the whole situation as your family in which U are caught in the middle. Again there are numerous threads here on nairaland that your Efik people come in to insult my people immediately, if the 2groups are address as 1. That's is Y I always reply with the differences because I can't allow such insult on my Ancestors. In doubt just search on my post profile to see the list through my replies. Again I don't care about your unity campaign, or who like us, as long as my people aren't insulted in the process. Just make sure you go about it as your opinion Only! Meaning State it clearly to ur Calabar people that U are not a full ibibio & didn't grew up in Ibibiolsnd. Again don't let my ancestors be insulted, because there are numerous ibibios here that will fight back with worst If you think my peaceful demarcation of each group in the middle of each tense thread fight, make things worst Then you might soon quit like the rest b4 U, e.g. pleep, Beachside etc.. I know no true Ibibio blood will keep quiet to receive insult, even if it is just an online forum. Since U don't believe that many of these posters started like nsiba b4 they face reality
I didn't say keep quiet, hell yes attack them back but not with hasty generalisation that you do. I do not see it as a family thing, you Know little or nothing about your ethnic group, after hausas and igbos, Akwa ibomites are the most spread out people in this country, infact for every one Akwa ibomite at home there are two outside the state, so if you feel those who have non ibibio mother's or those who grew up outside Akwa ibomites are not true ibibios then you need christ in your life, my point is majority of our sister tribes hold no grudge against us, so when addressing the few unfortunate ones just do it with that in mind, they will eventually fall back, I'll tell you a personal experience on why I'm saying so. About three years back there was a family I knew,there were from Central Cross river and there's this girl that stayed with them, I was shocked to find out she was Annang because she always joined her guardian's in insulting ibibios saying "ibibios are wicked" and other nasty things, we were all shocked in the family, fast forward something happened and her aunty told her the exact same words she used on other's on the girl meanwhile the girl was Annang sef, since that day she started tilting back to her roots, we started teaching her ibibio little by little and she finally came to her sensesand left them after realizing that blood is thicker than water, in Nigeria no one can differentiate who is ibibio or efik or annang or Oro, proof is in the experience I just narrated to you, we should put this internal squabbling aside and look at the bigger picture.
What is my business with Obong of Calabar or CRS? Again because I don't live in Nigeria, so you believe that I don't visit You keep accusing of me of researching on Wikipedia and online & now nairalandland How did I know about How AkwaCross name was coined? Do you know how many times I visit Nigeria each year If your mother is Efik, it explains everything completely U see the whole situation as your family in which U are caught in the middle. Again there are numerous threads here on nairaland that your Efik people come in to insult my people immediately, if the 2groups are address as 1. That's is Y I always reply with the differences because I can't allow such insult on my Ancestors. In doubt just search on my post profile to see the list through my replies. Again I don't care about your unity campaign, or who like us, as long as my people aren't insulted in the process. Just make sure you go about it as your opinion Only! Meaning State it clearly to ur Calabar people that U are not a full ibibio & didn't grew up in Ibibiolsnd. Again don't let my ancestors be insulted, because there are numerous ibibios here that will fight back with worst If you think my peaceful demarcation of each group in the middle of each tense thread fight, make things worst Then you might soon quit like the rest b4 U, e.g. pleep, Beachside etc.. I know no true Ibibio blood will keep quiet to receive insult, even if it is just an online forum. Since U don't believe that many of these posters started like nsiba b4 they face reality
These differences has already been discussed & explained in a previous threads years ago. OP Fratermathy U should have researched here on Nairaland instead & would have gotten the accurate information to avoid this conflict. Some posters from either tribes have tried to explain the errors but not quite. IBIBIOs, EFIKS & ANNANG are not the same not just because of languages but each practice different cultures and tradition and have different cultural beliefs separate from each other and so they have never been ONE under the same umbrella. As someone who has lived in the 3 region I had explained & given examples in the previous threads. READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo 
Have you read through this thread 
, I believe he is a true Ibibio son, that can not keep quiet to see his Ancestors insulted as this 
am proud to call you my brother 
U see the whole situation as your family in which U are caught in the middle.