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Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by rusher14: 3:36pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
geunik: Like Burundi and Comoros abi? Name 1 internationally recognizable person from these places. |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by suremanpatriot: 3:38pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Every body knows is fg incompetence tht caused them to import this wave makin foreign disease into naija.We would not hav been in lockdown inside ,if they had lockup intl airports in particular,the fastest acces into a country. They must start compensatin the low class for groundin our smal caused by their selfish indecision and action of negligence of over 200million ppl. 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by Excuzeme: 3:39pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Wallade: His knowledge of what is going on is so mundane and his writeup is more of a politcal propaganda, devoid of facts. Imagine, asking which coutry has quarrantine returnee-citizens! Nigeria is just beginning to climb its own "Mountain of infection", statistically speaking, other countries that are nearing or have "peaked", are evacuating their citizens out of Nigeria, (US, UK, Europe, etc) because they know that in about two weeks from now, Nigeria will be experiencing its own "peak of wahala" (God help us), judging by the rising numver of people testing positives and number of runaway contacts......and they dont want their citizens to be in the midst of such pandemic, in the Nigerian space where paid agents come online to write article about what the Govt wants to hear. 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by rusher14: 3:40pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
slowice: Ordinary close of border to goods people were complaining. Ordinary lockdown of Lagos, Ogun and Abuja and people are lamenting. 2 Likes |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by mrkia(m): 3:40pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
helinues:he won't. They don't always have nothing ups there. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by brtaiwo(m): 3:41pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Keep deceiving yourself that Nigeria has 139(151) confirmed cases. The truth is the current cases in Nigeria should be over 1000 cases. There are two reasons why they are not confirmed First lack of equipment for testing. Which leads to the second Very few have access to the test. The person who wrote the article must be an APC person. |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by Wallade(m): 3:41pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
PassingShot: Stoping the international flights and restricting movements at the border plus Covid 19 testing at the borders would have been less expensive, more effective and successful at curbing the spread of Covid 19 than the thrash your FG are doing currently. 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by hmohammed(m): 3:41pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Excuzeme: Then share your own facts. Do you realise we are a 200 million population? US with 350 million have thousands of cases and hundreds of death. What is your own yard stick 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by PassingShot(m): 3:41pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
donjancd19:Your wish. On the contrary, the FG is reacting in the right manner. Govt does not have money to give and it reduced petrol pump price by N20 periter. Multiply this by the millions of litre we consume daily or per head of what individual consumes in a month, you'd realize how much in billions this translate to on monthly basis. The FG gave Lagos N10bn and you say they haven't done anything? Let me leave you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by rusher14: 3:41pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
suremanpatriot: Most of the forex your country uses comes from oil and most of the expertise for this comes from outside our shores. Think deeply about a problem sometimes . |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by PointB: 3:41pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
PassingShot: 1. No you did not answer in it in the original post. You said our Covid-19 case was low compared to other nations. What you failed to mention was the number of test we have done versus other countries. When you do those number of tests, that will give you fairly good idea as per the rate of infection and related deaths. 2. As said earlier, it is only when you know the cause that you will know the effect. People die every now and then of pneumonia induce deaths. Pneumonia is not a strange disease, it's a very common one in these part of the world. Now the question is how many of these pneumonia deaths are related to Covid-19. There is only one way to tell - TEST for covid-19, during the illness or at death to determine the root cause of the death. As for quarantining, you start by closing your borders (early); anyone who come in after that is subject to quarantine. Ghana quarantined over a thousand travelers in this outbreak, and placed them in a 3 Star Hotels at government expenses. China is currently doing that, as is South Korea. I think they understand that Mandatory Quarantine is more cost effective than contact tracing that comes with symptomatic infections. Something that sounds like rocket science to FG planners, including the so-called Chief of Staff, and their sympathizers. 2 Likes |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by tunene66: 3:42pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
PassingShot: In comparing the way countries or nations reacted to this Coronavirus pandemic a lot needs to be considered. 1. It is glaring from empirical evidence that countries in cool to cold climates are more susceptible to the virus than those in warm and temperate countries 2. The virus was spread more through gatherings of people, who either initially travelled from China or were in contact with those who travelled from the emerging endemic area. So while China was the primary area, due to high flight connections between Europe/US and China when compared with Africa for instance, Europe/US became the next epicentre of the crisis 3. Most of the fatalities are people who are old and who had pre existing medical conditions. Again, considering that the ratio of old people to the population of Europe/US is higher than in places like Africa, then you will expect that fatalities in those area irrespective of their Govt response will be higher than in places like Nigeria So appreciation goes to NCDC, LASG, OGSG, FG and all our health workers at all levels I believe we should learn a lot from this crisis as it concerns the state of our health facilities and the structure of our economy. GOD bless us all. 2 Likes |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by joyandfaith: 3:42pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
rusher14: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2020/03/30/why-swedens-coronavirus-approach-is-so-different-from-others/ |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by dankoko200(m): 3:42pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
NA THAT ONE YOU STILL DE ASK? CERTAINLY IT WAS POORLY HANDLED PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THEIR INTEREST , THE BORDER AND AIR SHUTDOWN WAS LATELY DONE HIS THE AFTERMATH THAT THE GOVT WAS NOT ABLE TO HSNDLE.AM JUST PRAYING THAT GOD INTERVENE IN OUR CASE IF NOT........ 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by rusher14: 3:43pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
brtaiwo: Let us assume you are right. Now tell us if the numbers in UK or USA are accurate. |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by Angelfrost(m): 3:45pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
While y'all measure dicks and piss around, lemme quietly leave this one here... To those looking at Europe instead of inwards...
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Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by Excuzeme: 3:45pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
hmohammed: Stop posting all these 'One-liners", Herdsman, debate and expose your lack of intelligence. I am sure l am not the only one who had noticed that "Mohammed the Cow" has been posting the same response to everyone. Go to that section where they are discussing about how to run Cow from Katsina to Osun state or how to burn Benue villages and rape their wives, that is where you can make a contribution. What we are discussing here is beyond your level of "Cow-intelligence". Damnborohbanza 2 Likes |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by Adakintroy2: 3:45pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Basher8583: There is no "we" anything this not french class. You and your northern pirates and the quasi intellectual INEC man contrived to removed him. Tribal fagots. Dagote is building refinery now in Lagos. he is a northern man. So now the northern man hold the highest to lowest commodity in the land..from hausa grandnut to petroleum oil. How you like it now. |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by rusher14: 3:45pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
joyandfaith: Please can you make your point? |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by SmartyPants(m): 3:46pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
PassingShot:Your argument is post hoc ergo propter hoc. Wrong! The timing of Nigeria's cases and their volume has little to do with any government policy. Let me explain. Nigeria does not have the number of China and Europe inflows the US has. That's not even arguable. But let's dissect this point. As we can agree that the virus came late to Nigeria, how do you trace it back to any act of the government? What government policy could be credited with this? Surely not the temperature checking? The late entrance can be traced down to the relatively low volume of incoming traffic from China - note how all our cases have come from Europe and the US. Since the cases ballooned in those countries, so have cases here and across Africa increased. That is because we have much higher traffic from there. So far, 99% of African index cases are from Europe. And Nigeria was among the first 6 African countries to register a case. So really you may say it was late when compared to the UK and Europe but there is no basis for such comparison. When compared with the rest of Africa, which is the appropriate comparison, the virus was relatively early to Nigeria. Also we can thank China for putting Wuhan on lock down aggressively enough. So really you can't cite the late observation of a case here as evidence of good management at the federal level. Literally and objectively, the federal government has done only three things: 1. Temperature screening 2. Equipping the NCDC 3. Shutting down the borders The first one has not successfully detected OR deterred any cases. The second is good enough but could be better. The third was done too late. Now we are on lock down after weeks of silence from the presidency. So what about the poor and unprepared? State governments are having to mobilize on their own with the help of the private sector. I challenge you to forget about the cases, forget about numbers. Just point to the particular policy that was implemented to manage this crisis. 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by Wallade(m): 3:47pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Ayoefa: Bastard American, wetin come concern you for 9ja case. You think say we send your dual citizenship on Nairaland. Na so you dey abuse your papa for house, Oloriburuku somebody. So many countries have declared border and international flights shutdown, citizens that must enter are subjected to Covid 19 tests and subsequent quarantine. Google is your friend. Iwo omoale jatijati 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by PassingShot(m): 3:47pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Wallade:How do you test COVID-19 at the border when it's not done through a hand-held machine and you don't get test results in minutes? The almighty USA and other countries don't even such testing equipment until recently. Even at that, the hurriedly developed testing kits give false results! Again, stopping international flights isn't a tea-party decision. If it was, all saner countries would do that before a single case got to them. |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by Luckymama: 3:47pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Excuzeme:And you believe you have shown that you have something upstairs? Resorting to ad hominems just shows that you have nothing to counter. Hate is corrosive. It destroys the person harboring it. |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by BreconHills(m): 3:48pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Gentlemen with these few points I hope you can see that there is nothing special the government of Buhari is doing to stem this crisis instead the the Buhari govt has contributed more to escalating it to where it is today in Nigeria with their reckless behaviour of late travel restrictions till their kids got back home and Federal govt aide even going as far as importing infections and spreading it within govt circle ...I must not fail to commend the stellar leadership in this crisis of the Lagos State govt because they set parameters and template for tackling this which other state Govts have quickly mirrored and which has greatly help but as for the Buhari govt I don't see a single special standout thing they did infact they where late to to the table and only came after Lagos had taken the initiative to bear the index case at it's own risk and initiative [/quote] You address the issue of low fatalities with unproven speculation while adding superflous charts in order to present a rational scientific explanation. The truth is Nigeria has done little wrong. It might perhaps have shut its airports a little earlier but I dare say they would be pilloried by the same people on the grounds that Nigerians are being locked out of their own country. You are also not well informed regarding the peculiar area of Nigerias strength ( nothing blacks do counts) which is contact tracing. The FGN has one of the most vigorous contact tracing systems in the world because the system has access to the call records and locations of the phones of all travellers and their contacts in real time. The contact team knows where the contact goes, where he sleeps, who he talks to and what they say. Each phone is monitored in real time. You might say this is draconian but if you look at the stats for israel which uses the same system, you will see that the death rate as a percentage of infections is low. We installed this capability during the Ebola period and it has been activated and fine tuned. When South Africa was spraying plane passengers, one legislator said Nigerias approach was inept. Now the data tells the story. There is a lot of room for improvement but let's not fail to give credit to our covid team and the front line health workers. 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by MrDebonair: 3:48pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Celebrating Mediocrity. Nigeria should increase testing capacity. Only then can you compare figures. |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by semuni: 3:49pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
As you only comparing your self with UK and US, what of countries like North Korea that had only one case and it ended in that one case up till today, are you not aware of that. O boy open your eye don't be deluded by self judgment. Once you have an open-minded the truth WL come to you, this is not a time to start playing with people's life doing the first thing last. PassingShot: |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by Excuzeme: 3:51pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
PointB: Three Gossa for you! Nicely put and very direct. That "self quarrantine policy" of this Govt is one of our greatest unding, including not enforcing closing of borders on time. South Africa actually turned a Resort into a quarrantine Centre for every citizen that came in, after its borders were closed. If you dont have the resources to do mandatory testing for every arrival, then you must be ready to do mandatory quarrantine for them but our President and his advisers prefer to be playing 'Koro-Game" with the lives of Nigerians. 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by semuni: 3:51pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Are you only comparing your self with UK and US, what of countries like North Korea that had only one case and it ended in that one case up till today, are you not aware of that. O boy open your eye don't be deluded by self judgment. Once you have an open-mind the truth will come to you, this is not a time to start playing with people's life doing the first thing last. 1 Like |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by daniddan1999: 3:52pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
You claim to have written your article in 2010 that means you know and can predict the future [/b]: As at the time of writing this article (01/04/2010 @12 noon Naija time), the UK has 25,150 confirmed cases and 1,789 deaths; the USA has 188,639 cases and 4,059 deaths; Iran has 47,593 cases and 3,036 deaths, Italy has 105,792 cases and 12,428 deaths while many other “saner countries” have similar gloomy numbers to show for their efforts. Nigeria on the other hand has recorded 139 |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by idealogical: 3:52pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Excuzeme: Going by stats and timeline, we have successfully peaked without crisis or devastation because we were prepared, because when Trump was playing gulf, calling the virus a hoax and calling the people talking about the virus instead of testing people and and pouting measures place to fight the virus, Nigeria was testing, successfully treating and discharging infected people. The fact that we still have 2 deaths and less than 200 infections mean we did something right and we are still doing great. The calamity you people are hoping and praying for did not happen and still won't happen. |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by johnmartus(m): 3:53pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Are you still blame Buhari for the failure of health workers to screen out the returnees in a proper way imhotep: |
Re: Has Buhari/FG Actually Mishandled COVID-19 Pandemic? by TheNewAgeFarmer(m): 3:53pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
This is simple. The west were caught unaware, hence the reasons they lost control of the virus. But we were hearing news of this virus in these countries, the best thing would have been for government to isolate these persons coming into Nigeria, before letting them into the society. The isolation would go these way. Foreigners will pay a fee, while nationals Will be cared for by the government. Self isolation is cant be 100% adhered to when you let these people into the society. Some individuals can’t even stay in a place for one hour. Government didn’t plan for mass testing when they heard the virus was all over the world. We are not even sure of the total number of tests carried out so far. In periods like this?. how can you not know those coming into your country. What were immigration officials doing?. Just to collect money from first time flyers by crook and beg the old timer flyers as if they are not been paid salaries. Bringing politics into issues like this is total rubbish. As we speak so many states don’t have isolation centers. Do you think Nigerians still care about party affiliations, most of us just want a working government or system. I have not seen government engaging our manufacturing sector to convert their factories into factories that can manufacture equipment that will help fight this pandemic. Innoson came out last time that he can help but no deal yet that is known to the public. For me and many Nigerians I don’t think we have faith in this government ability to manage this crises if it surges. We are not hoping for more cases but if it happens I don’t know what we will do. Some of you who are supporting this government and other governments don’t speak from reality. The country is hard for many individuals. The fact that during this lockdown you can provide all your basic needs, doesn’t mean your neighbors can. So before you say any government is doing well, check out the standard of living in such country. |
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