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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by persius555(m): 9:11am On Apr 12, 2020
engrchykae:
it's because the Chinese knew the USA better than many USA asslickers.
When you use these apps of USA,be very sure your privacy isn't guaranteed a

How many Chinese apps do you have on your phone? There's nothing the Chinese are doing that other countries cannot do.
The Chinese are maximizing industrial slavery to the benefit of their sovereign state. Majority of Chinese citizens are still peasants despite the fact that they've been able to move a large number of their people up the economic ladder.
Thanks to greedy capitalist owners of western corporation, especially America.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nodogragra4me(m): 9:11am On Apr 12, 2020
DZTech:
my own is dt we should calculate our losses and bill dem.
simple.

Practical person. Nomtime for shift this and that ..those Guys fit release covid 2:0 while you Dey prepare your shifting cultivation
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by 9jaRealist: 9:14am On Apr 12, 2020
Jayjezey:
China will fall soon

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:18am On Apr 12, 2020
Isinweke:


OK, but to be truthful, Chinese are doing great now and is very powerful.


Japan discovered large rare earth material somewhere close to Japan but may international water.
The rare earth material is under the ocean and they don't have the technology to mine it now, same with Canada.

That Japan's rare earth material can serve the world for 500yrs.
No one will depend on China again.

Africa is vulnerable. Nigeria and Zimbabwe for one. I wish we'd learn from this and Fuck_ china up once and for all. Stupid people
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:20am On Apr 12, 2020
Isinweke:



God blessed China with rare earth material, that's the luck they have.

China is a strong country and won't be invaded easily as the West do to African countries to steal their natural resources.

Democratic Republic of the Congo supposed to be the richest country in the world because of their large natural resources but today they are one of the poorest in the world because other countries steal their natural resources, countries from the West, China and some African countries are involved in the stealing.

Rwanda is one of the thieves because they had soldiers occupying some part of DRC.
Rwanda used their stolen money well.
There is no special blessing there.
What is happening in china is
1. Child labour
2. Less than average minimum wage.
3. Less corporate tax.
4. Material outsourced mostly don't meet standard material requirements because of relaxed law.
The West especially USA know very well that China uses child labour but look the other way. In USA, a company has to follow labour law. U have a general minimum wages u pay to your employees especially unskilled labour. China, India, Nigeria don't do that. Factor that in and u will get cheaper products.
Corporate tax is low. Very low.
This is the number one thing that drove American companies to China. That's why trump gave them corporate bail out by reducing tax hugely( the only way to woo them back). This is actually the bane of china usa quarrel now.
Then it's very hard to get cheap goods in the West cos they make sure companies use the best material and follow set rules. In China, anything goes.

USA and the West have seen that it's not all about the money in the end.
Great lesson for all

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:24am On Apr 12, 2020
persius555:


How many Chinese apps do you have on your phone? There's nothing the Chinese are doing that other countries cannot do.
The Chinese are maximizing industrial slavery to the benefit of their sovereign state. Majority of Chinese citizens are still peasants despite the fact that they've been able to move a large number of their people up the economic ladder.
Thanks to greedy capitalist owners of western corporation, especially America.
Thank u.
We support China because we are the same.
Even our govt is guilty of this. How can u pay an average govt works 30k?
What will private companies pay?
Stipends of course!
In Nigeria, some graduates teachers in private schools still collect 20 to 25k. I don't even want to talk about this.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Wiseandtrue(f): 9:24am On Apr 12, 2020
WandaNara:
Dullardinhó
Lolzzzzz
His mate are making monumental giant stride but ordinarily palliatives, him no fit share without wahala
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Clarinett(m): 9:24am On Apr 12, 2020
timesup234:
Nothing to see here. The Japanese economy has been dead and buried for almost 30yrs no thanks for them for being a slave to the United States. In contrast the Chinese economy is $8 trillion bigger than the United States in purchasing power parity. Japan is a ant. The Chinese dont a fvck about them

Dont ever in your life speak on issues in relation to international economies.

I am ashamed of what you wrote up there.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Lordamazon: 9:26am On Apr 12, 2020
Na only Yahoo boys dey buy Facebook I only deal with Paypal,zelle,Cashapp,Gift cards,Bitcoin

polariss:

Do you buy facebook accounts?
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by pacespot(m): 9:31am On Apr 12, 2020
valarmorghulis:
I think that's the right step, imagine France and US fighting over face mask from China?
They can't even produce enough face mask in US/france they had to rely on China.
I don't blame China sha, why would u allowed ur companies(apple, Nokia, Microsoft, volvo etc) moved to China all because of cheap labour, relax ur immigration law, allow immigrant to come and work, pay tax to d govt.

The truth is USA does not even have the technical knowhow to run those companies you mentioned by themselves, all the major parts are sourced from their Chinese subsidiaries and partners in order to produce their products.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by MazLaha: 9:32am On Apr 12, 2020
Okay that's good
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Neoteny7: 9:32am On Apr 12, 2020
gimakon:


Chinese backlash you say!
Japan after WW2 belongs to the US, same with South Korea.
Taiwan is battling Independence, has never been part of Chinese communist country laws whatsoever.
Same with HK, I don't need to tell you how far, you watch news.
China borrows money from World Bank, where is the HQ of world bank, my map points to Washington DC.
So I ask you where is the backlash coming from? China is left with Africa and Macao to start again..
Hahahahahah grin
You don't even know what's going on.


Yawn

Perhaps you need to read up on why Trump stopped calling it the Chinese virus and cozied up to Xi, calling him his friend. The US government is not blaming China publicly for the pandemic because of their potential trade deal.

The US owes China trillions of dollars. The US needs China for the immediate future, radical shifts in supply lines established decades ago cannot be done overnight. Google what Steve Jobs said to Obama when the president asked why iPhones can't be made in America.

Stop looking backwards at inapplicable examples and read current affairs.

You, sir, know nothing.
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by valemtech(m): 9:32am On Apr 12, 2020
Saintp:


Imagine if Nigeria had the infrastructure to support manufacturing. More than half of foreign companies in China would have been rushing to establish base in Nigeria cos our labor is cheaper than China


yes and No light in naija
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by koyyess: 9:33am On Apr 12, 2020
Buhari and his cohorts do not have the balls to do that.

It's slavery all the way.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:34am On Apr 12, 2020
Neoteny7:



Yawn

Perhaps you need to read up on why Trump stopped calling it the Chinese virus and cozied up to Xi, calling him his friend. The US government is not blaming China publicly for the pandemic because of their potential trade deal.

The US owes China trillions of dollars. The US needs China for the immediate future, radical shifts in supply lines established decades ago cannot be done overnight. Google what Steve Jobs said to Obama when the president asked why iPhones can't be made in America.

Stop looking backwards at inapplicable examples and read current affairs.

You, sir, know nothing.

Lol. I laugh. No need to talk to you. You obviously don't know what is happening. Enjoy your easter.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Abagworo(m): 9:34am On Apr 12, 2020
The truth remains that China demystified technology. China made gadgets affordable for the whole world without discriminating.. It shall continue until we get to the stage of brand new cars selling for 3k Dollars and bevoming affordable for Africans
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:35am On Apr 12, 2020
Isinweke:


OK, but to be truthful, Chinese are doing great now and is very powerful.


Japan discovered large rare earth material somewhere close to Japan but may international water.
The rare earth material is under the ocean and they don't have the technology to mine it now, same with Canada.

That Japan's rare earth material can serve the world for 500yrs.
No one will depend on China again.

You are invited....

https://www.nairaland.com/5788677/naira-youth-revolutionary-party-nyrp
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:36am On Apr 12, 2020
valarmorghulis:

U r right but still better than relying on China, what if this pandemic incapacitated China more than this, those companies will have no choice but move back to their country and it requires time

You are invited.....

https://www.nairaland.com/5788677/naira-youth-revolutionary-party-nyrp
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:40am On Apr 12, 2020
Nuzo1:
And so therefore, it was never a biological weapon. It just happened.


I thought u were intelligent until I saw this..

Then I knew u r dumb... A virus killing thousands just happened... Just happened
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:44am On Apr 12, 2020
Neoteny7:



Yawn

Perhaps you need to read up on why Trump stopped calling it the Chinese virus and cozied up to Xi, calling him his friend. The US government is not blaming China publicly for the pandemic because of their potential trade deal.

The US owes China trillions of dollars. The US needs China for the immediate future, radical shifts in supply lines established decades ago cannot be done overnight. Google what Steve Jobs said to Obama when the president asked why iPhones can't be made in America.

Stop looking backwards at inapplicable examples and read current affairs.

You, sir, know nothing.

IPhone made in China?
OK read here

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-06-12/apple-s-iphones-are-already-made-in-u-s-not-china

The US owes China? OK read here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_China

You my friend, today is easter. I don't like when someone is talking without facts and figures. You like to sound insulting ,but today is a benefit of doubt as I Just came back from a ban. Be very careful. You may not like my behavior next time.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Gerrard59(m): 9:50am On Apr 12, 2020
Nuzo1:


Your statement is also laughable.

Economic leadership by regions is also in categories.

When it comes to hi-tech manufacturing and service, trust me, Singapore is one of the top leaders in that category.

Singapore is not looking forward to having low paying jobs and low and environmental degrading manufacturing back into their country. Lee Kuan Yew already got rid of such line of production from Singapore in the 70s.

Just like France, Japan USA etc,... Singapore outsources low and medium tech production. It's been hi-tech for over 3 decades now.

This is the problem when someone doesn't read properly to understand and does so to reply. Please re-read the poster I quoted and explain how your post correlates.
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nuzo1(m): 9:52am On Apr 12, 2020
ProfDview1:



I thought u were intelligent until I saw this..

Then I knew u r dumb... A virus killing thousands just happened... Just happened

Malaria killed millions about 100 years ago and it's still doing so till now. It happened, it has not been proven to have been intentionally manufactured. So is ebola, SARS, lasa, cancer etc.

My point is that convid19 was as a result of mutation. But even if it was manufactured, common sense should let anyone know it wasn't done for the purpose of trade war.

By the way, what was the insult supposed to achieve?

Cheers. grin

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by seunmsg(m): 9:55am On Apr 12, 2020
This kind of move is inevitable post CoronaVirus. The world simply over depended on China for manufacturing her needs. World leaders must change this once the virus is contained.

Africa and Nigeria in particular should be considered as a major manufacturing hub. We have a good weather, lots of natural resources, friendly labour laws, and very skilled and cheap population. Manufacturers all over the world willing to move their production away from China should consider coming to Nigeria. Government should also put in more effort to fix some basic infrastructure and stabilize the exchange rate.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:55am On Apr 12, 2020
Nuzo1:


Malaria killed millions about 100 years ago and it's still doing so till now. It happened, it has not been proven to have been intentionally manufactured. So is ebola, SARS, lasa, cancer etc.

My point is that convid19 was as a result of mutation. But even if it was manufactured, common sense should let anyone know it wasn't done for the purpose of trade war.

By the way, what was the insult supposed to achieve?

Cheers. grin


Malaria came from mosquitoes but this covid is a weapon produced by the Chinese.. There is no way u can hide the fact....


It was manufactured by the Chinese

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Ogaonos: 9:57am On Apr 12, 2020
Jayjezey:
China will fall soon
d effect of covid 19 on china.d Chinese govt Neva c anything.but right now d Chinese govt would love Nd betting on democrats to enta white house to ease things for them.because democrats might nt attack china because of racism stuff from trump.calling d virus Chinese virus.yhey be cool headed with china.so with democrats china will do damage control with it citizens Nd deal with Hong Kong which alot of dialogue for its fuckup. because Hong Kong will leave.but with trump on 2nd term china is a go.d heat will be too much on their economy.hong Kong will definitely go.nd tensions might erupt in d Chinese govt Nd it citizens which will force them to do alot of reforms.but in all d after effect on their economy Nd foreign relations will be negative.yhey no try at all imagine trying to create propaganda against Africans DT we might bring Nd spread d covid 19.they also did it on foreigners.nd u want to b a world leader they Neva c anything.make d pandemic go first

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nobody: 9:58am On Apr 12, 2020
Neoteny7:



Yawn

Perhaps you need to read up on why Trump stopped calling it the Chinese virus and cozied up to Xi, calling him his friend. The US government is not blaming China publicly for the pandemic because of their potential trade deal.

The US owes China trillions of dollars. The US needs China for the immediate future, radical shifts in supply lines established decades ago cannot be done overnight. Google what Steve Jobs said to Obama when the president asked why iPhones can't be made in America.

Stop looking backwards at inapplicable examples and read current affairs.

You, sir, know nothing.

US owes China abi? OK lemme show you how US owes China pls read

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/02/china-sovereign-debt-bondholders-american

Wait I want you to read here too

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5-countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
And yes to end it, US blames china for the pandemic, before you say another crap here, pls read

Read Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/09/china-should-be-legally-liable-pandemic-damage-it-has-done

When I say you don't know anything. Pls accept empty barrels, make the loudest noise. Don't make me loose my temper. Happy easter.

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Neoteny7: 10:00am On Apr 12, 2020
gimakon:


IPhone made in China?
OK read here

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-06-12/apple-s-iphones-are-already-made-in-u-s-not-china

The US owes China? OK read here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_China

You my friend, today is easter. I don't like when someone is talking without facts and figures. You like to sound insulting ,but today is a benefit of doubt as I Just came back from a ban. Be very careful. You may not like my behavior next time.

Man you're obtuse

The article mainly talks about how Apple designs the phone and oversees component sourcing, while China's Foxconn builds the devices. This is ths same Foxconn that setup an iPad factory in 90 days.

And did you notice the disclaimer at the bottom of the article?

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.

It also says the author is a technology writer who pens for the opinion column of Bloomberg.


China's national debt is 5.2 trillion dollars.

The US national debt is 25 trillion dollars. Go figure.

I'm not impressed by your infantile threats, boy, because so far you've been doing nothing but sullying your reputation with misinformed and ignorant nonsense.

I'm waiting for you to make good your childish threat.
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Nuzo1(m): 10:00am On Apr 12, 2020
ProfDview1:



Malaria came from mosquitoes but this covid is a weapon produced by the Chinese.. There is no way u can hide the fact....


It was manufactured by the Chinese

For what purpose exactly?

Anyway, even though I'm very far from agreeing with you, your points are very clear and straight to the point without insult.
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Ogaonos: 10:02am On Apr 12, 2020
GamalNasser:
I predicted this two weeks ago , next America will move production to India and let's see what China is
DT true o

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Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by Ogaonos: 10:04am On Apr 12, 2020
grandstar:
Is this right or wrong? I can't yet say but my instinct says it's wrong. The Japanese government should not give handouts for companies to leave China.

China would appreciate any country that stands with it in this time of calamity. Japan seems to have blatantly done the opposite as though taking the gloves off when there was no need to wear them in the first place.

Yes, China's land grabs has soured relations with Japan but that's another issue altogether. The true belligerent is China's head of state who has a conservative no nensense alienate-your-neighbours attitude to things.

I suspect once he's gone, China will return to its peaceful-rise policy which the present head has thrown out through the window.
DT their president have to resign.china go sweat eh.india might benefit from it.
Re: Japan To Fund Firms To Shift Production Out Of China by mimilogs: 10:05am On Apr 12, 2020
China has gone far, and will remain a global economy powerhouse for long. China have around 1.2billion population, that population alone is enough market for their local industries to service.


Again, western countries cannot afford to move all their manufacturing firms away from China back to their countries unless they are ready to move them to West Africa where they can have access to cheaper labor and not bother about environmental pollution....but then, do West Africa have the technical know-how and intelligence the Chinese labor has NO!


I think the best approach is for the whole world to call Chinese authority to a round table meeting and caution them on their approach to life; their eating habit, their secrecy towards life-threatening issues like viral pandemic.....if they had informed the world earlier of the seriousness of this virus, world leaders would have taken a serious measure to contain it withing Wuhan city.



Japan urging their local industries in China to return back to Japan, do they have the manpower Japanese population is dwindling, mostly old people who cannot work....and their immigration policy is too tight which makes it difficult for immigrants from poor nations of Africa, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Philippines, etc to come to their country to work at affordable wage.


America that had a balanced labor force that helped to grow American economy and industrialization have started some cruel immigration laws that now forbid immigrants from low income nations coming into the US.....so if American companies in China relocate back to US, can US population provide them with the necessary affordable labor to remain in business when Chinese firms will continue to flood the world with cheaper and more efficient products

Will America's environment contain the environment pollution that will come with large industrialization from light industry activities that made them relocate the industries in the first place Will they also open their borders to immigrants through Diversity Visa Lottery Programme that brought in lots of cheap labor from around the world into the US


This is not going to be an easy task for the world

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