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Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by MumuCountry: 9:11am On Apr 13, 2020
Nigeria’s budget can buy the whole of Ghana? How much is Nigeria’s annual budget? How much is Ghana’s annual budget? Some of you nigerians are just foolishly stvpid! nigeria is not even fit to polish Ghana’s shoes grin no wonder nigeria has become what it has become grin keep on deceiving yourselves grin I pity these deluded mudder fuggerz cool

9jayes:
And to think Nigeria budget can buy the whole of Ghana.

There should be at least two testing labs in every Local government
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by babytoun: 9:14am On Apr 13, 2020
Oyiboman69:

It is better than going on a Radom and reckless way of testing,there bye concluding that every ailments in the country is covid19.they will start trowing anyone who have high temperature, cough,malaria and other symptoms into a van and taking to the place with the real virus without proper ascertainment. This way is better

Guys lets stop defending incompetence ..it puts everyone at risk

Ghana annnounced airport closure on 21st of march and they quarantined everbody that flew in on 21st and 22nd from affected western counries .

They quarantined a total of 1030 people . After 14 days 105 of these people tested positive . Nigeria did not close airports until 8 days after Ghana did . If 1030 people flew into Ghana in 2 days then nigeria should be having 3 times that number in a day . We did not quarantine a single soul from the airpot .

If you see the crowd from Niger republic that attended Pmb kano campaign rally ..it will be clear that there is serious interaction between Kano and NIger .
How come Niger republic has recorded about 500 cases and kano has recorded just 1?

We are grossly undertesting and that might be our greatest undoing as a nation

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Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by Agboriotejoye(m): 9:24am On Apr 13, 2020
GermanMelania:


. Even if we do not test. Take a look at nursing homes in. The u.s. sometimes 30+ people died. That is a cluster. We should see that in nigeria. Without testing. It won't take 10 years. But weeks. Trump touted chloroquine based on his interests. Also they think it only works if taken in the early stages. Maybe we have some kind of immunity. I do not think som i honestly don't know what is going on. Other than we are not seeing cluster deaths.
Lets hear that 30 older meat men/women at 1 market all got sick and died. Then we have reasons to be very afraid. We haven't even had a bunch of old prominent people die. Remember we only have about 500 ventilators. Mostly in lagos abd even 1 in 2 people put on a ventilator will die. But cultures differ. Data out of china is different from italy that has an aging population and both are different from u.s data.
First we don't have nursing homes in Nigeria in the sense that they have it over there. Next, a lot of middle and lower class people won't report to an hospital for "common" fever, cough and sneezing. They'll simply go OTC or even herbal in the case of most elderly people.
So, it's hard to really hear what you're expecting because there's no cluster in the real sense in Nigeria save for maybe the markets.
This lockdown is our most effective weapon but our govt is bungling it just like they did for border closure. Imagine the index cases for Katsina and Niger came from Lagos. That of Kano from FCT. Two places on total lockdown!! If buhari was a serious president, both buratai and adamu should be out of office by now.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by emmadejust(m): 9:29am On Apr 13, 2020
When they are more concern about the cost of testing per person for 10,000 naira according to minister of health, they want to minimize their spending and compromise the spreads of covid-19 in Nigeria embarassed
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by Oyiboman69: 9:33am On Apr 13, 2020
babytoun:


Guys lets stop defending incompetence ..it puts everyone at risk

Ghana annnounced airport closure on 21st of march and they quarantined everbody that flew in on 21st and 22nd from affected western counries .

They quarantined a total of 1030 people . After 14 days 105 of these people tested positive . Nigeria did not close airports until 8 days after Ghana did . If 1030 people flew into Ghana in 2 days then nigeria should be having 3 times that number in a day . We did not quarantine a single soul from the airpot .

If you see the crowd from Niger republic that attended Pmb kano campaign rally ..it will be clear that there is serious interaction between Kano and NIger .
How come Niger republic has recorded about 500 cases and kano has recorded just 1?

We are grossly undertesting and that might be our greatest undoing as a nation
There is a fine line between incompetence and reality.
I'm not in anyway defending them.
I'm only asserting that their ineptitude will do more damage than good if they increase in reckless way of testing like they suggested going on door to door testing in Lagos state.
Do you know that they are using thermometer for testing for covid19 in delta state borders and companies?, what if they mistake other symptoms for covid19?.
We are both on the same page,and I still believe this is the best way.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by MumuCountry: 9:57am On Apr 13, 2020
GDP is not food,huh? Nigeria is a good example of an impoverished country with a big GDP. GDP does not necessarily make a country rich!

ivolt:




Use this lockdown period to learn how to read and understand.
Don't let the opportunity pass you by.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by MumuCountry: 10:08am On Apr 13, 2020
Congratulations. You spoke sense. What you wrote is 100% true.

Most of the comments on nairaland, particularly as it relates to Ghana and the coronavirus is at best absurd, at worst very provocative and stvpid. Why should a nigerian attack Ghana and Ghanaians simply because Ghana has tested more people? Why should Ghana be blamed for nigeria not testing more people?

babytoun:


Guys lets stop defending incompetence ..it puts everyone at risk

Ghana annnounced airport closure on 21st of march and they quarantined everbody that flew in on 21st and 22nd from affected western counries .

They quarantined a total of 1030 people . After 14 days 105 of these people tested positive . Nigeria did not close airports until 8 days after Ghana did . If 1030 people flew into Ghana in 2 days then nigeria should be having 3 times that number in a day . We did not quarantine a single soul from the airpot .

If you see the crowd from Niger republic that attended Pmb kano campaign rally ..it will be clear that there is serious interaction between Kano and NIger .
How come Niger republic has recorded about 500 cases and kano has recorded just 1?

We are grossly undertesting and that might be our greatest undoing as a nation

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Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by Reference(m): 10:12am On Apr 13, 2020
Seun:
We've been told that it's difficult to do massive testing for the Coronavirus Disease in Nigeria. That we don't have the trained workers, technology, and money to do it like South Korea. This is why we've only conducted 5,000 tests in a country with a population of 195.9 million. This got me thinking about other African countries:

South Africa, with a population of 57.78 million, has conducted 80,085 tests.
Ghana, with a population of 29.77 million, has conducted 37,954 tests.
Egypt, with a population of 98.42 million, has conducted 25,000 tests.

Also, Nigeria, the most populous country in Africa, is 9th in the list of African countries which have conducted the most tests. We are also 26th in the list of African countries that have conducted the most tests relative to the size of their population. Should we be conducting way more tests?

These are the things the citizens of Nigeria should be grilling their government about, the things the citizens of other nations bother their government about most because they know it will determine how long the pandemic and the consequent lockdown will last. But Nigerians in their usual miserly, ignorant, beggarly state of mind rather bicker about food, money and handouts.

They should know this: It is obvious Nigeria will be the last country to overcome this pandemic, probably the last country to come out of this on the face of the earth. The goverment will have long run out of resources to feed Nigerians by then, Nigerians will have long broken the curfew and will be dying in numbers. A complete mess is brewing.

When I say we donot have the capacity to handle this pandemic, I am not looking only at our GDP, finaces or reserves viz otner nations. The totality of capabilities includes intellectual, organisational and structural/institutional competencies. The data on testing is just one index amongst many that we are just incompetent as a country. Good luck to us.

WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE ALLOWED THIS VIRUS TAKE HOLD IN NIGERIA KNOWING ALL THESE. THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS THAT ARE JUST IRRECOVERABLE. WE SHOULD HAVE SHUT OUR BORDERS FAR, FAR, FAR EARLIER.

I don't care if this line is a headache to those who love the status quo and love playing the ostfich. But these fact should be warehoused for future incidents. A nation cannot rise above the quality of its citizens who are ultimately the shareholders of their destiny.

P.S. I wil not even start on the topic of restructuring the country and how we have kicked the can for long enough to suffer the consequences today. Everything from citizen databases, to the total absence of goverment at the grassroots, to the fights over boundaries of authority, the so called concurrent lists, etc, show us in clearterms that Nigeria as a nation is just too weak tohandle the challenges faced by the modern, progressive society.

When we eventually surmount this, I do hope we wil have our thinking elevated and our emotions grounded by the sufferings we are about to encounter in the weeks and months ahead.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by babytoun: 10:22am On Apr 13, 2020
MumuCountry:
Congratulations. You spoke sense. What you wrote is 100% true.

Most of the comments on nairaland, particularly as it relates to Ghana and the coronavirus is at best absurd, at worst very provocative and stvpid. Why should a nigerian attack Ghana and Ghanaians simply because Ghana has tested more people? Why should Ghana be blamed for nigeria not testing more people?


Chairman ...this is not a nigeria vs ghana show ...we are talking human lives hence should be given all the seriousness it deserves ..

.I am using Ghana as a case study becuase in my view it is the nearest real reference to highlight what our authorities should be doing better .

President Akufo Ado has done considerably well in managing this and should be commended . I am not very impressed with the recovery rate from Ghana though ..but that is another discussion altogether .
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by babytoun: 10:26am On Apr 13, 2020
Oyiboman69:

There is a fine line between incompetence and reality.
I'm not in anyway defending them.
I'm only asserting that their ineptitude will do more damage than good if they increase in reckless way of testing like they suggested going on door to door testing in Lagos state.
Do you know that they are using thermometer for testing for covid19 in delta state borders and companies?, what if they mistake other symptoms for covid19?.
We are both on the same page,and I still believe this is the best way.

While wholesale door to door is not advisable but door to door is the right thing to do in certain areas especially if from test conducted so far there are indications that a large chunk of cases are coming from a particular area
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by MumuCountry: 10:55am On Apr 13, 2020
You obviously missed the point. Some of your fellow nigerians have made very derogatory comments about Ghana since it was posted that Ghana has done far more testing than nigeria. It is as if Ghaba has committed a crime by testing more people for coronavirus than nigeria. Clearly, most of those stvpid comments were made in ignorance. My comment on your post was to direct your fellow Nigerians to the fact that the comments you made in your post was factual.

Direct your comment on not making this whole thing about coronavirus a Ghana v nigeria debate to your fellow nigerians. Ghana is taking steps to protect its citizens. Why should any sane person see it a challenge or even “an affront” to Nigeria?

I don’t know what you mean by you are “impressed” with the recovery rate in a Ghana. How many people have died from coronavirus in Ghana so far?


babytoun:


Chairman ...this is not a nigeria vs ghana show ...we are talking human lives hence should be given all the seriousness it deserves ..

.I am using Ghana as a case study becuase in my view it is the nearest real reference to highlight what our authorities should be doing better .

President Akufo Ado has done considerably well in managing this and should be commended . I am not very impressed with the recovery rate from Ghana though ..but that is another discussion altogether .

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Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by codemaniacs: 11:03am On Apr 13, 2020
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Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by Amhappy(f): 11:14am On Apr 13, 2020
Despite all the calls by NMA and many Nigerians our government is yet to embark on aggressive testing. It's quite a pity. We are we going to have people who care about their country men and not their pockets.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by MumuCountry: 11:33am On Apr 13, 2020
You still don’t get it, right? Go the beginning of this thread. Is it an offense that Ghana is testing more people than nigeria? How is it Ghana’s business that Nigeria is not testing more people.

Go the beginning of this thread. Out of nowhere, some illiterate posted that Nigeria’s annual budget is enough to “buy” Ghana. That is a very stvpidly foolish thing to say. Nigeria’s 2020 budget is $28 billion, for a population of 201 million. Ghana’s budget is $16 billion, for a population of 27 million. Between Ghana and Nigeria, which country is better placed to buy the other?

codemaniacs:


leave babytoun alone... his taking care of his baby called toun.

you said "Why should any sane person see it a challenge or even “an affront” to Nigeria?"

many people on this website are paid to defend the government...

if you use derogatory words like impoverish then anyone will defend and see it as “an affront” to themselves.

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Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by DZTech: 11:36am On Apr 13, 2020
Karmaisme:

Nothing is coming by HIS grace. Prophet of doom.
lol someone in Italy, Spain or d US was likely called same. go argue with d WHO
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by luluman: 12:14pm On Apr 13, 2020
Seun:
We've been told that it's difficult to do massive testing for the Coronavirus Disease in Nigeria. That we don't have the trained workers, technology, and money to do it like South Korea. This is why we've only conducted 5,000 tests in a country with a population of 195.9 million. This got me thinking about other African countries:

South Africa, with a population of 57.78 million, has conducted 80,085 tests.
Ghana, with a population of 29.77 million, has conducted 37,954 tests.
Egypt, with a population of 98.42 million, has conducted 25,000 tests.

Also, Nigeria, the most populous country in Africa, is 9th in the list of African countries which have conducted the most tests. We are also 26th in the list of African countries that have conducted the most tests relative to the size of their population. Should we be conducting way more tests?
please show your source.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by GermanMelania: 12:51pm On Apr 13, 2020
Agboriotejoye:

First we don't have nursing homes in Nigeria in the sense that they have it over there. Next, a lot of middle and lower class people won't report to an hospital for "common" fever, cough and sneezing. They'll simply go OTC or even herbal in the case of most elderly people.
So, it's hard to really hear what you're expecting because there's no cluster in the real sense in Nigeria save for maybe the markets.
This lockdown is our most effective weapon but our govt is bungling it just like they did for border closure. Imagine the index cases for Katsina and Niger came from Lagos. That of Kano from FCT. Two places on total lockdown!! If buhari was a serious president, both buratai and adamu should be out of office by now.


Goodness. Yes i know we do not have nursing homes. However we have groups who hang out together. We are very interconnected. I do not agree that we can achieve a lockdown.
Like i stated earlier. There are markets. There are many densly packed living conditions. You keep saying cough and sneezing. I am talking about people dying
There are no clusters in nigeria? Lol. Okay. Im done here. We are nothing but clusters! Even folk loitering the streets.
Motorparks.
Face me i face you. /shared common area housing
Markets
Multi family housing apartment units
Churches
Mosques
Family compounds
Underbridge/ people of no fixed address.


We even have badly managed health and underlyinh conditions.
Just like ebola is identified through death. We will KNOW when clusters of folk die. I can't explain this any further.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:59pm On Apr 13, 2020
GermanMelania:



Goodness. Yes i know we do not have nursing homes. However we have groups who hang out together. We are very interconnected. I do not agree that we can achieve a lockdown.
Like i stated earlier. There are markets. There are many densly packed living conditions. You keep saying cough and sneezing. I am talking about people dying
There are no clusters in nigeria? Lol. Okay. Im done here. We are nothing but clusters! Even folk loitering the streets.
Motorparks.
Face me i face you. /shared common area housing
Markets
Multi family housing apartment units
Churches
Mosques
Family compounds
Underbridge/ people of no fixed address.


We even have badly managed health and underlyinh conditions.
Just like ebola is identified through death. We will KNOW when clusters of folk die. I can't explain this any further.

I get you now what you mean by clustering. In that context, if you wait for people to die before you KNOW, then i'm afraid the disease will be long gone by then. Don't forget a good number will fall sick and not require hospitalization. If you can't keep ur ears on the ground to identify those when it occurs and wait for deaths, then the situation will end up worse than other countries I assure you. The case in Niger state FMC I referenced earlier is good example. The woman came into the hospital coughing. The medical staff were afraid to go near her due to the coughing. By the time they were prepared to go near, she had died. I hope you realize the disease has gone really far in her system before the family decided to take her to the hospital maybe after trying some homemade medications for some days and seeing no improvements. That's what i'm talking about.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by ivolt: 1:26pm On Apr 13, 2020
MumuCountry:
GDP is not food,huh? Nigeria is a good example of an impoverished country with a big GDP. GDP does not necessarily make a country rich!

It is GDP per capita and not just GDP that tells a poor country apart from a rich one.

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Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by GermanMelania: 2:47pm On Apr 13, 2020
Agboriotejoye:


I get you now what you mean by clustering. In that context, if you wait for people to die before you KNOW, then i'm afraid the disease will be long gone by then. Don't forget a good number will fall sick and not require hospitalization. If you can't keep ur ears on the ground to identify those when it occurs and wait for deaths, then the situation will end up worse than other countries I assure you. The case in Niger state FMC I referenced earlier is good example. The woman came into the hospital coughing. The medical staff were afraid to go near her due to the coughing. By the time they were prepared to go near, she had died. I hope you realize the disease has gone really far in her system before the family decided to take her to the hospital maybe after trying some homemade medications for some days and seeing no improvements. That's what i'm talking about.

Isolation cant work for us. But cordoning off entire neighborhoods can. We need to take a look at local solutions. We can't use skin tanning lotions because it is fashionable in the west.

I hear you but we do not have the hospital capabilities for what you are suggesting.
If covid takes a hold people will die.
This is why i do not believe it is as rampant just yet. Ebola is more deadly but less virulent but it was tackled. Corona can be tackled as well.
We just cannot do the social isolation thing based on our cultural structure. There is no electricity to store food for 2 weeks. There is no money to buy food for 2 weeks.
If you want people to stay put you have to provide food.
My fear is same as how everyone was diagnosed with hiv and we expected mass deaths that never happened. So they decided there was another less deadly strain. The western blot was giving false positives and in order to get funding people were diagnosed with an illness they did not have. Recently some Caribbean university looked at blood samples and said 81% ( i honestly forget) or so did not have the malaria antibody in nigeria. Yet every illness people treat for malaria with no tests.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by AFONJACOW(m): 3:42pm On Apr 13, 2020
Jack500:


Yoruba is not the cause of ur failure and frustration. Get sense.
hunger Neva start in ur life ooo
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by AFONJACOW(m): 3:42pm On Apr 13, 2020
Jack500:


Yoruba is not the cause of ur failure and frustration. Get sense.
hunger Neva start in ur life ooo sai Barbar
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by AFONJACOW(m): 3:42pm On Apr 13, 2020
Jack500:


Get sense
truth is bitter embarassed
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:19pm On Apr 13, 2020
GermanMelania:


Isolation cant work for us. But cordoning off entire neighborhoods can. We need to take a look at local solutions. We can't use skin tanning lotions because it is fashionable in the west.

I hear you but we do not have the hospital capabilities for what you are suggesting.
If covid takes a hold people will die.
This is why i do not believe it is as rampant just yet. Ebola is more deadly but less virulent but it was tackled. Corona can be tackled as well.
We just cannot do the social isolation thing based on our cultural structure. There is no electricity to store food for 2 weeks. There is no money to buy food for 2 weeks.
If you want people to stay put you have to provide food.
My fear is same as how everyone was diagnosed with hiv and we expected mass deaths that never happened. So they decided there was another less deadly strain. The western blot was giving false positives and in order to get funding people were diagnosed with an illness they did not have. Recently some Caribbean university looked at blood samples and said 81% ( i honestly forget) or so did not have the malaria antibody in nigeria. Yet every illness people treat for malaria with no tests.

You're very correct!! But who will enforce the neighbourhood lockdown with the very corrupt and undisciplined security agencies we have?
It's obvious our leaders have no interest in what really happens in Nigeria and instead prefer to go by whatever foreign bodies tell them in a bid to get free dollars. Let's just hope that whatever is keeping covid at bay continues to do so for us long and till the end of the saga.

Look at the number of online beggars that have propped up since this lockdown started. The so-called palliatives still remain in audio stage.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by glowingflame7: 11:30pm On Apr 13, 2020
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by Ijaya123: 10:50am On Apr 14, 2020
glowingflame7:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/gulfnews.com/amp/uae/health/coronavirus-uae-ministry-of-health-conducts-over-40000-covid-19-tests-in-last-two-days-1.1586497777229

It's 2days. Wake up, Nigeria is sleeping as usual.

Your earlier claim stated that some countries conduct 40,000 test in a day which I countered by saying it is impossible. Now you're saying in 2 days.

glowingflame7:


We don't really want to do the tests. We want the money and relief from our supporters and pity team. Serious countries are testing 40,000 per day.

I insist, stop making false claim.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by glowingflame7: 11:12am On Apr 14, 2020
Ijaya123:


Your earlier claim stated that some countries conduct 40,000 test in a day which I countered by saying it is impossible. Now you're saying in 2 days.



I insist, stop making false claim.

Get serious and stop hiding behind your index finger making excuses for the government.

According to worldometers.info, Nigeria has shamelessly carried out just 5000 tests in total. That is an outrageous 24people per million. And you have no fear of God or conscience to defend this.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by Ijaya123: 7:29pm On Apr 14, 2020
glowingflame7:


Get serious and stop hiding behind your index finger making excuses for the government.

According to worldometers.info, Nigeria has shamelessly carried out just 5000 tests in total. That is an outrageous 24people per million. And you have no fear of God or conscience to defend this.

Stop shifting the goal post. you claimed some serious countries conduct 40,000 test in 24 hours. Name the countries.

Until you do, I insist you’re simply making false claim.
Re: COVID-19 Testing In South Africa & Other African Countries by glowingflame7: 8:53pm On Apr 14, 2020
Ijaya123:


Stop shifting the goal post. you claimed some serious countries conduct 40,000 test in 24 hours. Name the countries.

Until you do, I insist you’re simply making false claim.

You are deliberately missing the point most likely for pecuniary gains.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gulfnews.com/amp/uae/health/coronavirus-uae-ministry-of-health-conducts-over-40000-covid-19-tests-in-last-two-days-1.1586497777229

The link says 40,000 in 2days. I initially said 40000 in 1day, and I have since posted the link and corrected that. That's a serious country with an average of 20,000 tests per day. Nigeria has done a total of 5000 tests since the pandemic started. The US has carried out over 3million tests. Ghana has carried out over 44,000 tests. Indeed the nation deserves it's leaders.

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