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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by meetme01: 11:31am On Apr 22, 2020 |
JetStar: Learning |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by VaselineCrew: 11:32am On Apr 22, 2020 |
mrphysics: When you say need a lot of batteries, hope you’re not referring to regular lead acid batteries? Technology is improving and the likes of Tesla now have utility scale batteries that have already been deployed. Below is a pic of a 100MW Tesla utility battery. Combined with solar, that can power soo many homes. Imagine if every state had one to start, that’s already 3,600MW of clean energy.
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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Supersymetry: 11:34am On Apr 22, 2020 |
Staphylococcus: So you mean, nuclear energy is the only form of energy that can develop a nation, chaii, close mindedness is dangerous. Don't you know that electricity(to mention a few) was invented before nuclear power. |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by kenshore: 11:34am On Apr 22, 2020 |
The challenge with Nuclear power in Africa is how to dispose off Spent nuclear fuel.. It’s highly challenging and expensive |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Asour: 11:36am On Apr 22, 2020 |
autofreak2020: High possibility for failure is not always a reason not to try , true. But before we embark on this project we should read up on the Chernobyl 1980 disaster & the Sacrifices made for the "clean up exercise". Till date Chernobyl hasn't recovered and I am not talking about the Financial costs involved, just social, economic and health impacts of the disaster to its host community nevermind the scare across Europe. God help us. 1 Like |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by IMASTEX: 11:38am On Apr 22, 2020 |
eruchboy:I wonder myself. Even if it is to be given as a gift will they dream of accepting it. |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Sydney1995(m): 11:38am On Apr 22, 2020 |
Africa should only consider nuc if we have an enabling and conducive environment. Which is something so many Africa countries have. Building an NPP takes a lot of time and more importantly involves lots and lots of cash inflow. This is why it's imperative for Africa to have the right financing options in place and public private paternership should be encouraged becauseits a tough ask for government only to bear the cost of constructing NPP which usually can take up to 10 15 years to build. The hinckley point C (HPC) which I am currently working on has cost the UK government and EDF over 25 billion pounds and the cost is set to keep on rising. If Africa is to move towards nuc then the future lies in SMR and AMR which stands for small modular reactors and adnavced modular reactors which are cost-effective and take way less time to construct and more importantly can be decommissioned rapidly than the NPP we are all used to. Finally, we should be ready to pay electricity tariffs at the set price cus no investors be it an IPP (independent power producers) or otherwise wants to make a loose on its investment especially when huge sums of money is involved. |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Jaqenhghar: 11:39am On Apr 22, 2020 |
mrphysics:The problem with y'all is you like to compare yourselves with these countries The energy needs of Nigeria and the energy needs of US are different. They are far more advanced technologically than you guys and therefore need more electricity. In fact a report shows that the amount of electricity the Dallas cowboys stadium uses is more than the electricity being used in the whole of Liberia .It's not about the population size alone. In Niggeria the lack of electricity is not because you dont have the means to generate the electricity. The maintinence culture is zero. I tell you even if you build a nuclear reactor in every state you still won't get 24 hours power in that country. So stick to the safest option instead of trying to form world power 2 Likes |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Win95: 11:44am On Apr 22, 2020 |
Jobia:2 Was about recommending the series to the poster. That is how one idiot will hijack it and kill us all. 1 Like |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Vulcan24(m): 11:46am On Apr 22, 2020 |
nuclear energy is not nuclear bomb .... this NL peeps hehn and the technology for nuclear power and armament is regulated Africa can look at the simple version if they wish but we know it will be 100% FDI if we can stop looting and monopolising national revenue anything is possible but the level of insecurity and corruption now is a Big NO NO!! 1 Like |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by omohayek: 11:47am On Apr 22, 2020 |
wirinet:Considering that Germany has been able to generate a lot more power from solar sources than Nigeria's entire power capacity, despite being located at a latitude where there is far less sunshine, there is simply no reason why Nigeria has to look beyond that to get well ahead of where it is today: the best thing about solar power is that it can even be done at a single-unit, local area or village level, without having to worry about a decrepit national grid that suffers from chronic under-investment and the usual woeful mismanagement of Nigerian parastatals. The thought of a nuclear power plant being built in Nigeria should fill one with dread: given how brazenly corrupt and poorly staffed all Nigerian public facilities end up being, an accident at a Nigerian nuclear plant could easily end up making the TV show "Chernobyl" look like a light comedy by comparison. This is a country which can't even keep its major federal roads in good working order! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by gevans(m): 11:48am On Apr 22, 2020 |
babyfaceafrica: When are we gonna be ready? The best time is now. It will interest you to know that nuclear power plant is 8,000 times more efficient that the conventional power we operate today. God bless Federal Republic of Nigeria |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Reference(m): 11:48am On Apr 22, 2020 |
KingAzubuike: Have you seen the Niger Delta. Why are you still pumping oil there. 76 babies lost per 1,000 births due to pollution (not counting adults) in the Niger Delta while the peak radiation deaths in Chernobyl was 26 per 1,000. Perspective is often lost in things. It is similar to what you have in transport safety where few believe air travel is the safest mode simply because the unit death count and publicity is much higher. Today folks shout pandemic up and down amd the world is shut down because 150,000 have died while the humble mosquito is quietly doing its thing putting 400,000 people in caskets every year with alarming regularity. If you ask anyone what is the most dangerous animal out there, they will say it is the lion or snake which most will not encounter in thror lifetime. A typical nuclear power station will deliver between three to ten times the energy of a typical coal, oil or gas fired stations. That energy multiplier alone builds in significant safety benefits. The 5,000 megawatts we claim to generate can be provided by just one large nuclear plant or no more than 3 meduim sized ones. No silly pipelines to vandalise. You can then protect it with a whole division of soldiers if you wish. |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by wirinet(m): 11:49am On Apr 22, 2020 |
mrphysics: Germany must be a very small country, because Germany generates 9.1% of its electricity from solar and up to 24.8% by wind - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Germany Putting money in solar is the best investment Nigeria and Nigerians can embark upon now. 2 Likes |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Origin(f): 11:50am On Apr 22, 2020 |
We can if we want to. But personally sha, I don't approve. EVERYTHING has its pros and cons. Its negative and positive consequence. For me nuclear energy has too much negative impact on the environment. |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by PrinxArthur1(m): 11:50am On Apr 22, 2020 |
mrphysics:use google ignoramus 1 Like |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nobody: 11:52am On Apr 22, 2020 |
When we can't manage common hydropower yet. Who will take care of the wastes? Who will prevent nuclear material getting into the hands of terrorists? ABU Zaria had just a little Uranium for research and when threatened by terrorists, Nigeria ran to USA and China to help dispose of it. We are not ready yet |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nobody: 11:53am On Apr 22, 2020 |
mrphysics: Chief I like your answers on this thread. However, on Chernobyl, as this sauce puts it The Chernobyl accident in 1986 was the result of a flawed reactor design that was operated with inadequately trained personnel. There is even the allegation that the personnel were carrying out an 'unapproved experiment with the machinery' ie having fun by seeing how fast the reactor could go or something like that. 2 Likes |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Jaydchukwuemeka(m): 11:54am On Apr 22, 2020 |
This is total and absolutely thrash and unimaginable. Going nuclear? I took time to go through this writeup and I didn't see anywhere the writer made mention of nuclear waste and it's consequences. At least addressing the issues without pointing out it hazardous and side effects would be as disastrous and as devastating as the nuclear energy itself. You made mention of sustainable, clean and green energy. Africa � has a lot of potential when it comes to renewable energy and Renewable energy industry, I do believe Africa should go clean, renewable and sustainable via biomass, generate electricity, wealth and create employment by establishing biological energy transformation industries, were these industries would go, solicit and corporate with farmers, who would in turn supply them with wastes from farmlands for production of electricity and other energy resources. Africa is not in any way ready for any nuclear program of any kind. Africa is tender and still growing and I believe that if those of us (Chemical Engrs, Nuclear Engrs and other professionals) in the field should make people understand the dangers surrounding this wrong move. God bless the continent which in it lies the future of the world God bless Africa �. Engr Jude. 2 Likes |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Reference(m): 11:55am On Apr 22, 2020 |
wirinet: You need enormous industrial support to drive down prices and serious R&'D. Nigeria can get there but not tomorrow. No nation waits for optimum technology before developing indigenously. Let us adopt the technologies that are available. If we are going green then nuclear remains the best for now. Nuclear plants pay for themselves in about 5 years. By the time the nuclear fuel is spent in say 25 to 30 years, perhaps renewables will have become viable. |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Staphylococcus: 11:55am On Apr 22, 2020 |
Supersymetry: Read what you composing. You have failed to factor in what's demanded and the best and most efficient way to get reach it. Oh! We should go solar to generate 50k MW or go thermal that is about being faced out. Tell me more.. wind turbines or Hydro. Nuclear will get Nigeria the desired efficient and reliable capacity. We talking about powering up a Nation with large energy deficit and not lightening up a village. |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Sydney1995(m): 11:56am On Apr 22, 2020 |
Bro I agree with u about the financial aspect of nuclear. If we have to go down that nuc route then it's certainly gonna have to be a sort of public private partnership or some sort of financing options from say the World Bank. However, the part on nuc waste I fail to agree. For a starter, 90% of all nuc waste are low to intermediate level waste which are really not that harmful. If we put things in perspective, how many times in the last 40 years have they been a nuclear disaster? Not more than 3. More people die each year from GHG emsissions than from nuclear waste. The issue with waste disposal is mainly down to the media who has unfortunately influenced a negative view of nuc on the wider population. But what a lot of people from the outside fail to realise is that majority of nuc waste has a very short half life meaning they will decompose rapidly and therefore be of no harm to the wider community. The truth is waste disposal is getting better and better each day, frankly speaking the overreaction on nuclear is uncalled for. We should focus on the real killers out there The cost issue u highlighted at HPC is cus EDF have refused to listen they wanna do things their own way even when they are not expert. I know this cus I am currently working on HPC and Sizewell C as a nuclear and power consultant and I work very closely with the EDF team. meetme01: 1 Like |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Promise47(m): 11:57am On Apr 22, 2020 |
mujiboy:Nigeria has a long way to go not Africa 2 Likes |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nukilia: 11:57am On Apr 22, 2020 |
mzhazel: @mzhazel did you study engineering? If no, whats your discipline like? |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by TMKsouth: 11:57am On Apr 22, 2020 |
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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by ogalandlord: 11:59am On Apr 22, 2020 |
We should use renewable energy not nuclear energy |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by FLYFIRE(m): 11:59am On Apr 22, 2020 |
Fidelismaria:It only means it does not favour a section of the country. But soon they will be forced to be ready |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nukilia: 11:59am On Apr 22, 2020 |
Sydney1995: @Sydney1995 connect me to some nuclear jobs make your guy chop some small money |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by benji93: 12:00pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
At the moment, No. Nigeria especially. I am afraid, we are not capable of managing such a system especially the by/waste products. We cannot handle a potential nuclear fallout. At least not until we start caring genuinely about each other's welfare. If we embark on such an endeavor, Ithe first phase would involve the development of human resources. We may have to send students to study different aspects of Nuclear power, over a given period of time. Now, in the light of sending students, there has to be a team Nigerian expert on Nuclear energy, providing advisory functions on how to develop human resource with all important aspects of Nuclear energy in consideration. Following this, we would have to create an institution that would be equipped to train personnel to develop and manage our Nuclear power generation systems. At the moment I know of no single renowned Nigerian expert on Nuclear power generation. So if we would like to venture into nuclear energy generation 30/40 years from now, the federal government can specifically create a board that oversees the funding of students who would like to pursue postgraduate work in Nuclear Energy for a span of 15/20 years. However, given the cruelty of our leaders, creating such a board is an avenue for embezzlement. Our current crop of leaders is unapologetically corrupt. Let's hope we can phase them out, as we usher in a more moderately corrupt generation of leaders. The key phrase is generation of leaders not leader. Although it has to begin with that one leader, that will spearhead a revolution in which those potential leaders with some restraint will start considering getting into politics. At the moment, you cannot trust our leaders to effectively execute the first phase, which would require continuity. I wouldn't even bother mentioning the other phases. It's a waste of time for Now. By the way, I would think there are other safer alternatives like wind and solar energy we can consider, although the latter would be really expensive. But I suppose it's not something we would do in a month, perhaps we can spread it over 3/4 years. |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Sydney1995(m): 12:00pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Thanks for this. That's exactly the point I made. A lotta people here condemning nuc don't know that amongst all the clean energy techs nuc has the lowest GHG emissions. Moreover how many nuc disaster have they been in the last 40 years or so. More people are likely to die from carbon emissions than from nuc in the lifetime of a NPP Reference: |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by wirinet(m): 12:00pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Reference:The typical African is afraid of change, and continues to do things in the old inefficient ways. Another problem is that we allow other to do our thinking for us. I call that mental laziness. We allow Europeans, Americans and lately the Chinese to help us think about the solutions to our local problems, instead of putting our thinking cap on and drawing up our own home grown solutions. We fail to see that the mosquito is the most dangerous animal on the planet and so we fail to look for solutions to both the mosquito and the plasmodium parasite that kills hundreds of thousands of black Africans on a yearly basis. And yet, we are spending billions of dollars in fighting a coronavirus virus that is yet to kill 100 black Africans. Nuclear is the future of energy on the planet, and we have not even started embracing it. Our universities are only in name only, no actual research goes on in these institutions. They are only proficient in awarding degrees, and before I forget, training one to apply spiritual solutions to scientific problems |
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Kayouzka(m): 12:01pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
autofreak2020: You're right nothing governmental is working they should privatize the whole country. |
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