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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 2:50pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Emusan: " and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God." 1Corinthians 3:23 Christ is included in the all things created for the Father . But not the same for Jesus. By means of Jesus his own property, ALL Things Came from the Father , through the Father ( he needed no Jesus to create Jesus , made him through himself) and FOR HIM . Even Christ So the highlighted was your mistake. Learn again.
What is in the seas ? Job mention the birth of this water in the sea itself. , something not mentioned in Genesis creative days. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 2:54pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: You see the copy and paste you did didn't help you ... Does been one and only exclude Isaac from been born ? You are a liar. The truth is getting clear. Son of God title is for created beings. Father precede son 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 2:59pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Jozzy4: NO Jozzy TRINITY taught them the three are coeternal! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 3:05pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Emusan: If only you have sense to comprehend . you will have realize that the word " Through the Father " showed what came through the Father was done by himself. He himself was the agent for that creation and that Creation belong to him Recheck passed THROUGH the FATHER . the Father was the very agent for a certain creation If Jesus was the agent needed for all, The Father being an agent would be a LIE. For what creation was the Father an agent ? That's the bone of contention And if what came through the Father was responsible for other creations , then it means all came from the Father , through him and for him. Through him because that person he made was the agent that brought other creations.
God called gathering of water sea . not that he birth the waters of the sea . in Genesis the water already existed. But Job 38 says God brought the water of the sea to existence. This is where you are wrong. You claim Father dwell in eternity before heaven and earth. Show me where it says the Father dwell in eternity ? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by sonmvayina(m): 3:06pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: This is my point, you have no capacity or ability for independent thought..you just follow whatever you are told...we are all gods just having a human experience on Earth..we need everyone to be focused on moving humanity forward...I need you,you need me..we can not be dwelling on story book.they can't save us. .they are stories written by men like us to teach us..we are supposed to learn the messages in it..and move on..not worship the characters in it.. Imagine me worshipping super man because I read a comic..what will you call me? But I understand that there is a hero in all of us... |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 3:29pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
sonmvayina: You have no business being on this thread. Na wetin you find come here? Leave us alone who believe in Jesus Christ and his Father Jehovah God. You have no right to claim be making spurious claims here... |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by sonmvayina(m): 3:37pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Janosky: Me or you,who is making a claim.... |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 3:38pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: See y I said u will end up mumuing urself International Version So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, "After I am worn out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure? The writers and translators of the bible are not deluded and manipulators like u. Well except for Jehovah Witness Bible. They manipulated scripture to suit their lies.Thats y their translation is different The word in that verse is lord not Lord as u shamelessly said. Lord or LORD or God or GOD which is equal to Adonai or YHWH are titles ascribed to God. 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by sonmvayina(m): 3:39pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Janosky: The truth will first piss you off,before it will set you free .. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 3:41pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
sonmvayina: So why must i agree with your own idea? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 3:41pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Jozzy4: I doubt u read my post hence u called it copy and paste. If u cannot read, how will u understand. No wonder you lack understanding. Now this time, read it again and ask the Holy Spirit to guide u. He would take the scales off Ur eyes just as scales fell from the eyes of Paul formerly known as saul |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 3:43pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Jehovah Witnesses Una don see wetin pass Una today. Pepper go comot Una yansh today. I need to debate with ur elders so that they can be sweating in their underwear cos I will finish their lies and expose dem |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 3:43pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: I didn't read and I color some parts. .. You are dubious . your post admit the only begotten was applied to Isaac too, question is : Isaac is unique but does that mean Isaac wasn't born like other sons of Abraham ? Answer that sincerely |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 3:46pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: Please teach me how Sarah pronounce the title LORD / Lord/ lord, so that the inspired writers could distinguish through the way people of ancient times pronounces the title differently? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 3:48pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Of course Isaac was born, so is Isaac the only begotten son of God? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 3:53pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: Pepper go comot for our yansh because you and your cohorts have agreed on doctrines shey? My friend, before you can defeat a military force you need to build a bigger military that's solidly united in faith. Not when some of your fighters are heading south, some east, some north yet other are still not prepared for the battle! For your information Sir you people are scattered as in disorganized in your beliefs! Luke 11:23 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 3:56pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: U n I were not there when Sarah was proñouncing it. But through the inspiration and Guidance of the Holy Spirit, translator understood the context in which she called Abraham lord and appropriately differentiated it from Lord=God Look at your dictionary sef...Mayb if no believe bible u go believe dictionary Lord: A name for God or Christ U suppose pay me o. c as I dey school u. From bible to dictionary
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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 4:00pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88:Isaac was born just like other sons of Abraham. Been called only begotten doesn't change this. Good , likewise Jesus was created too like other sons of God. The title" son of God " is only applied to someone that God created. E.g Adam |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 4:00pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: So there is no way to distinguish the pronunciation of FRESHBOI and freshboi shey? Case closed Sir! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 4:02pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: Must I school you in everything. You this guy..u be like robot nah as dem talk am for kingdom hall u go just dey swallow. Even Peter and Paul disagreed on certain things 11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. 12 When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision. 13 As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. Doctrine is causing division ryt from the apostle.so Ur theory of unity among Jwit is equal to balderdash |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 4:11pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Clap for yourself...u don make sense abi?... Shame don leave u dey catch me for u. First thing first, is God human?...is it wise to apply the analogy of humans to God? Secondly does this Ur quack theory confirm to other verses of scripture?... No!. If it does, how does it apply here? 16For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and for him. 17He is [b]before all things, and in him all things hold together Respond to how a created been applied to the bolded in the verse |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 4:12pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: Why don't u pronounce it for us let's differentiate.Shey i told u, u will mumu urself today |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 4:14pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: You are still dodging 6 Bible based questions i asked you.. If I come your Church to ask you that question, you go talk say I no get "spiritual wisdom of heavenly things", you see how dishonest and dodgy you are ! Col 1:15 Jesus Christ "the firstborn of EVERY CREATURE." You done komot am from your Bible? Is every Creature a CREATED being ? Capital YES ! Therefore, Jesus is a Creature, the Creation of God Almighty. Immutable Truth. No dey LIE and deceive yourself. Let's test Freshboi88 integrity and honesty once more.. The question is: Does monogenes exist Without a Father & child relationship ? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 4:14pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: Okay, at highlighted what does it mean to be a Son of God ? Revelation 2:18 Jesus called " Son of God " |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 4:16pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: So because Peter committed a blunder just as he used to even during the time his master was around {Matthew 14:23-31;26:34,75} that means Paul can't correct him shey? Well for your information Sir, Peter and Paul never had different doctrines, Peter only make a mistake and Paul openly rebuked him. Later Peter (who have high regards for Paul) told the early Christians to continue adhering to the teachings of Paul because they all had the same line of thought! 2Peter 3:16 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10 Ephesians 4:3; Philippians 2:2 Unlike your own confused religions that are totally different in standards, morals and doctrines! 1Corinthians 14:33 |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 4:25pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: My guy, there is no difference in the pronunciation of the same title, there is no difference between the pronunciation of President and PRESIDENT! That's why NWT accurately translated the word of God to the understanding of over 8.7 million individuals from different races and tongues so that they can come together to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Psalms 23:1 says "JEHOVAH is my SHEPHERD" Your preferred translation KJV says The LORD is my SHEPHERD Your mumulity was not revealed until Psalms 110:1 says JEHOVAH said to my Lord Your preferred translation said The LORD said to my Lord So David actually said that shey? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 4:27pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: How are we different in standards and morals? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 4:33pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: Haba my guy no fall my hand nah! I thought you're more than this! You promised to disgrace Jehovah's Witnesses now you want to disgrace yourself quickly like that? No i no go free leave you kíákíá like that! But if you still want to go ahead to see the differenceS in standards and morals in your midst, please ask each of your supporters to mention the name of either their Yahoo plus big boy (Pastor) or business center (Church) No be me go talk am, nah other followers go bigin talk how unah take different like rice, beans and corn. "Isu ata yánan yànan" "Yam pepper scatter scatter" |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 4:35pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: The LORD said unto thy Lord. -- Jehovah said unto my Adonai: David in spirit heard the solemn voice of Jehovah speaking to the Messiah from of old. The Father to The Son.......so how does this help Ur the son is created case?.... can't c it? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 4:41pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
freshboi88: No o, I no go gree! Why you wan com put Jehovah there nah? Abeg talk am as your preferred KJV put am make we see how person wey dey listen go fit understand wetin you dey read! Later come talk as the person wey you talk sey him be Jehovah com be the same Adonai wey hin dey follow yan! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 4:58pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: It's like you're not getting it Maximus! freshboi88 is saying the Father and son could still be the same person, so Jehovah and the Adonai could be the same person talking to himself! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
TATIME: Perfectly well bro. Let him and his cohorts come out and start mentioning the names of their Pastors or Church if everyone on this forum will not see the differences in their standards and morals. After all they've been arguing against Jehovah's Witnesses since, now is the time to expose their hypocrisy perhaps they are all having the same line of thought regarding Jesus! |
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