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freshboi88:
Actually, I have more sense than you. Isn't that evident?...


Should I still school u again....wht will u give me if I open ur eyes

you claimed Jesus saying I am in the Father means Jesus is same with the Father . then it means we too are same with Jesus and his Father.


U this liar


John 17:21
.that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. MAY THEY ALSO BE IN US so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

Does this mean we are The Father and Jesus ? That point expose your false reasoning.

freshboi88:
Guys I am dealing with @Janosky. E yansh dey pepper am now. E hi don tire for me say any akara analogy I carry comot freshboi go just use me do yeye.............

My brother nah because watch tower don deceive you nah. How u wan take win argument when u dey wrong

Am surprised you are still dragging this when you believe already that Jesus is a begotten son. What does it mean to be begotten son ?

freshboi88:
Romans 11:36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen

That's the verse, show me where it said The Father created someone through himself. Re u been delusional

Freshboi88 initially claimed that Romans11:36 referred to Jesus Christ, Bros na wa ooooo !!
Suddenly your "spiritual wisdom of heavenly things" done CHANGE Jesus Christ to Father

You dey read Romans 11:35-36 , yet you come dey argue blindly jumping from pillar to post..

Janosky:


Freshboi88 initially claimed that Romans11:36 referred to Jesus Christ, Bros na wa ooooo !!
Suddenly your "spiritual wisdom of heavenly things" done CHANGE Jesus Christ to Father

You dey read Romans 11:35-36 , yet you come dey argue blindly jumping from pillar to post..

Show me where that verse said the father created someone through himself

CANTICLES:
Am surprised you are still dragging this when you believe already that Jesus is a begotten son. What does it mean to be begotten son ?

Already explained that..can't keep repeating myself.go through d thread

Jozzy4:
you claimed Jesus saying I am in the Father means Jesus is same with the Father . then it means we too are same with Jesus and his Father.


U this liar


John 17:21
.that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. MAY THEY ALSO BE IN US so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

Does this mean we are The Father and Jesus ? That point expose your false reasoning.

I didn't claim Jesus is the same with the Father. Rather they are united, equal in essence, form and nature.

Christ United the church with himself. That's y the church is his body and he the head. That underlined reflects the unity that existing bw the fathwr, and the church through Christ.

freshboi88:
I didn't claim Jesus is the same with the Father. Rather they are united, equal in essence, form and nature.

Christ United the church with himself. That's y the church is his body and he the head. That underlined reflects the unity that existing bw the fathwr, and the church through Christ.

Remember i'm still in the house, though i allow you to continue arguing blindly!

Which Church is united with the Prince of Peace?
Is it the Catholic and Anglican or RCCG that's having serious internal issues that's united with Deeperlife or Synagogue or Christ Embassy or Celestial Church or C&S or Chosen? 1Corinthians 14:33

Let me tell you now that whatever makes you say all these Churches are united despite their glaring contradictions is a clear indication that you're deceiving yourself!

Because you have no reason to single out Jehovah's Witnesses for the purpose of saying they don't agree that Jesus is equal to/with the father!

For your information, trinitarians are confused amongst themselves about the identity of Jesus and his father.

So you've got nothing as in NOTHING to say against God's people!

Maximus69:
Remember i'm still in the house, though i allow you to continue arguing blindly!

Which Church is united with the Prince of Peace?
Is it the Catholic and Anglican or RCCG that's having serious internal issues that's united with Deeperlife or Synagogue or Christ Embassy or Celestial Church or C&S or Chosen? 1Corinthians 14:33

Let me tell you now that whatever makes you say all these Churches are united despite their glaring contradictions is a clear indication that you're deceiving yourself!

Because you have no reason to single out Jehovah's Witnesses for the purpose of saying they don't agree that Jesus is equal to/with the father!

For your information, trinitarians are confused amongst themselves about the identity of Jesus and his father.

So you've got nothing as in NOTHING to say against God's people!

Self proclaimed God's people. If u r God's people u wouldn't call others fake. It isn't in the nature of Children of God to do that.

God's people that keep giving fake predictions. Do u know that father of lies?..... Satan!....Satan must be the god u r talking about

freshboi88:
Self proclaimed God's people. If u r God's people u wouldn't call others fake. It isn't in the nature of Children of God to do that.

God's people that keep giving fake predictions. Do u know that father of lies?..... Satan!....Satan must be the god u r talking about

I'm not denying the fact that we and you are on opposite sides!

Jesus condemned false religions so if you can't condemn falsehood then you're not one of his followers!

But the point here is you're forming alliance with different religions against the one and only organization that stood out from all others!

So in a nutshell, to you all the religions claiming Christians are OK except the one who condemns your religion!

Well that's exactly how unbelievers teamed up to condemn Jesus and his followers in the first century for speaking against their mode of worship!

Maximus69:
I'm not denying the fact that we and you are on opposite sides!

Jesus condemned false religions so if you can't condemn falsehood then you're not one of his followers!

But the point here is you're forming alliance with different religions against the one and only organization that stood out from all others!

So in a nutshell, to you all the religions claiming Christians are OK except the one who condemns your religion!

Well that's exactly how unbelievers teamed up to condemn Jesus and his followers in the first century for speaking against their mode of worship!

And who made u judge to condemn others?

freshboi88:
And who made u judge to condemn others?

You're quick to condemn people instead of calmly reasoning to know what they're saying!

Jehovah's Witnesses don't condemn you or any other person. What we're saying is "your faith that's not working out fine qualities amongst you people is DEAD" James 2:18-26 compare to Matthew 7:15-20

Take for instance your daddy GO and his co~pastors under the same Organization, using charms against one another because of position, prominence and money.

What Jehovah's Witnesses are saying is
"if such is happening within them, then it's not the spirit of our God that's operating in their group" Galatians 5:19-21

Maximus69:
You're quick to condemn people instead of calmly reasoning to know what they're saying!

Jehovah's Witnesses don't condemn you or any other person. What we're saying is "your faith that's not working out fine qualities amongst you people is DEAD" James 2:18-26 compare to Matthew 7:15-20

Take for instance your daddy GO and his co~pastors under the same Organization, using charms against one another because of position, prominence and money.

What Jehovah's Witnesses are saying is
"if such is happening within them, then it's not the spirit of our God that's operating in their group" Galatians 5:19-21

Where is your proof tht RCCG pastors use charms on each other or do u just like to say this u cannot confirm

freshboi88:
Already explained that..can't keep repeating myself.go through d thread

Begotten means to bring into existence . So does your argument stand in the face if this ?

freshboi88:
Show me where that verse said the father created someone through himself

" THROUGH HIM " . Romans 11:35,36 . If all things was made through Jesus without anything through the Father. This verse is a lie

Clearly , someone came through the Father . who ?

Janosky:


Freshboi88 initially claimed that Romans11:36 referred to Jesus Christ, Bros na wa ooooo !!
Suddenly your "spiritual wisdom of heavenly things" done CHANGE Jesus Christ to Father

You dey read Romans 11:35-36 , yet you come dey argue blindly jumping from pillar to post..

Arguing blindly indeed . Good morning brother

freshboi88:
Where is your proof tht RCCG pastors use charms on each other or do u just like to say this u cannot confirm

Adeboye said his death can't come from his Pastors, are you saying they will send hired killers to kill him?

CANTICLES:
" THROUGH HIM " . Romans 11:35,36 . If all things was made through Jesus without anything through the Father. This verse is a lie

Clearly , someone came through the Father . who ?

Y r u fooling urself. How does it clearly show that someone came from the Father when it says All Things. When did all things change to someone or something?

So if this verse refers to the Father and the John 1:4 says All things were created through Christ....so how do u reconcile that?...

If Ur interpretation is not consistent with scripture then u r obviously wrong.

This verse is referring to Christ. Mirroring John 1:4 and col 1:16

Maximus69:
Adeboye said his death can't come from his Pastors, are you saying they will send hired killers to kill him?

I dnt know, so how did u now conclude that it's JuJu they would result to

CANTICLES:
Begotten means to bring into existence . So does your argument stand in the face if this ?

Using human wisdom to analyze the matters of God is utter foolishness

freshboi88:
I dnt know, so how did u now conclude that it's JuJu they would result to

You supposed to have learnt that from honourable daddy GO nah!

freshboi88:
Using human wisdom to analyze the matters of God is utter foolishness

Human wisdom is shouldn't be employed to analyze matters of God, yet you're furious that humans don't grasp it. Even Jesus used illustrations with familiar things to analyse sacred secrets!

freshboi88:
Y r u fooling urself. How does it clearly show that someone came from the Father when it says All Things. When did all things change to someone or something?

So if this verse refers to the Father and the John 1:4 says All things were created through Christ....so how do u reconcile that?...

If Ur interpretation is not consistent with scripture then u r obviously wrong.

This verse is referring to Christ. Mirroring John 1:4 and col 1:16

Its not Christ., you are making that claim because u know that verse would wound you.


Christ was given many things , let me point one from the same Colosians 1:19

King James 2000 Bible
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell;

The Father gave him all the fullness he has.


Romans 11:35,36 says the person has not been given anything.


More tears for you


" In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting for God, for whom and through whom all things exist, to make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering.
Heb 2:10

This also testify that All things CAme THROUGH the Father . the Father is not Jesus . definitely like Jozzy4 mentioned , Someone came through the Father , which means the Father made this one himself without any agent. This dismantle your John 1:3 claim that Jesus is needed for everything



At this junction , let us go back to the question : Who came THROUGH the Father ? Without Jesus .

Freshboi88 over to you

freshboi88:
Using human wisdom to analyze the matters of God is utter foolishness

Its not human wisdom , the same begotten was used for Isaac and we know it means brought into existence .

The same Greek word. Dont be an hypocrite . You are sounding like one already

Begotten means brought into existence. And for your information , the Father made him through himself . dismantling your op

CANTICLES:
Its not human wisdom , the same begotten was used for Isaac and we know it means brought into existence .

The same Greek word. Dont be an hypocrite . You are sounding like one already

Begotten means brought into existence. And for your information , the Father made him through himself . dismantling your op

So Isaac was called Abraham only begotten
son..if thts d meaning u r alluding to begotten then u r wrong. Shows u dnt know nything. Was Isaac the only son Abraham father?

CANTICLES:
Its not Christ., you are making that claim because u know that verse would wound you.


Christ was given many things , let me point one from the same Colosians 1:19

King James 2000 Bible
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell;

The Father gave him all the fullness he has.


Romans 11:35,36 says the person has not been given anything.


More tears for you


" In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting for God, for whom and through whom all things exist, to make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering.
Heb 2:10

This also testify that All things CAme THROUGH the Father . the Father is not Jesus . definitely like Jozzy4 mentioned , Someone came through the Father , which means the Father made this one himself without any agent. This dismantle your John 1:3 claim that Jesus is needed for everything



At this junction , let us go back to the question : Who came THROUGH the Father ? Without Jesus .

Freshboi88 over to you

To answer your question...All things came from the Father, The Source, Originator.

col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

So also... Christ created all things. Let me leave you to differentiate between both. When u are done let me know

freshboi88:
To answer your question...All things came from the Father, The Source, Originator.

col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

So also... Christ created all things. Let me leave you to differentiate between both. When u are done let me know

Who came through the Father ? Because its clear both are different. So how can the Bible says someone or something Came through the Father if all was made through Jesus ? Just name what came through the Father

freshboi88:
So Isaac was called Abraham only begotten
son..if thts d meaning u r alluding to begotten then u r wrong. Shows u dnt know nything. Was Isaac the only son Abraham father?

Yes only begotten son of Abraham and Sarah . the only son of that union, .. To give birth as human, a man and a woman must have sex and someone would be brought into existence. ISAAc is the only begotten son brought into existence in that marriage.

How does God brought into existence his son ?

CANTICLES:
Yes only begotten son of Abraham and Sarah . the only son of that union, .. To give birth as human, a man and a woman must have sex and someone would be brought into existence. ISAAc is the only begotten son brought into existence in that marriage.

How does God brought into existence his son ?

Re other children not Abraham's children?. The verse did not say Abraham and Sarahs only begotten son.......u just added that....dude sense is far from u

If u say Isaac is Sarah only begotten son...u would make sense, not Abraham, he had other sons period!..e no get how u wan twist am.

Now the question is why was Isaac called only begotten when Abraham had other children?....lemme leave u to answer that, when u have the answer come back

freshboi88:
Re other children not Abraham's children?. The verse did not say Abraham and Sarahs only begotten son.......u just added that....dude sense is far from u

If u say Isaac is Sarah only begotten son...u would make sense, not Abraham, he had other sons period!..e no get how u wan twist am.

Now the question is why was Isaac called only begotten when Abraham had other children?....lemme leave u to answer that, when u have the answer come back

Isaac was called Abraham's only begotten son when he had already gotten Ismael!

So the only begotten issue has to do with Sarah, because she's Abraham's legal wife the time God first made the promise to him!

Janosky:
Oturugbeke !
God said to the Earth: Let us make man in our image"
Bros, Your Earth Na spirit ?

What is man?

Maximus69:
America (today's world power) has declared FREEDOM of expression, speech and worship!

So you're not in the position to tell anyone what to do about speech, expression or worship!

It is detrimental to our development..don't you get it?

freshboi88:
Re other children not Abraham's children?. The verse did not say Abraham and Sarahs only begotten son.......u just added that....dude sense is far from u

If u say Isaac is Sarah only begotten son...u would make sense, not Abraham, he had other sons period!..e no get how u wan twist am.

Now the question is why was Isaac called only begotten when Abraham had other children?....lemme leave u to answer that, when u have the answer come back

You would have made sense but you lose it when you didn't realize . ABRAHAM CANNOT BEGET A CHILD ALONE.The point still stands . Begotten means brought into existence. And Isaac is the only one he got by promise to Sarah .


Now God has how many wives or how does God beget and brought into existence his own sons ?