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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 8:51am On May 05, 2020
@freshboi88

There are just two forms of worship!

Worshipers of Satan believe in themselves so they feel they can choose any line of thought or fabricate their own! Matthew 7:13

Worshipers of God strongly believe in one single line of thought so they're always on the lookout to be sure they're on that single line of thought! Matthew 7:14 compare to Ephesians 5:17

So when we see someone who is not specific regarding how pure worship should be, we know he is either a lost sheep or a goat. Therefore we try to be sure by discussing with him/her to know if he is confused or just doesn't want any form of restraint, once we notice he is for the broad road (anyhow worship just attach the popular name of God you know) we will not waste the next minute talking to him! smiley
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 8:58am On May 05, 2020
Maximus69:
@freshboi88

There are just two forms of worship!

Worshipers of Satan believe in themselves so they feel they can choose any line of thought or fabricate their own! Matthew 7:13

Worshipers of God strongly believe in one single line of thought so they're always on the lookout to be sure they're on that single line of thought! Matthew 7:14 compare to Ephesians 5:17

So when we see someone who is not specific regarding how pure worship should be, we know he is either a lost sheep or a goat. Therefore we try to be sure by discussing with him/her to know if he is confused or just doesn't want any form of restraint, once we notice he is for the broad road (anyhow worship just attach the popular name of God you know) we will not waste the next minute talking to him! smiley
How can u claim to worship a God u don't know.Those that worship God worship him in spirit and in TRUTH.

You do not know the Truth about God...so Ur worship is null and void.

Do u worship Jesus Christ?
In your self acclaimed true way of worship
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 9:08am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
Guy no run...@CANTICLES is taking a pounding o. Will you not assist him?..... I mean Ur belief is under serious threat. It is hanging by the thread. Isn't there something u can do
Stop the noise , grin Do you agree with Revelation 7:9 that the Lamb is NOT OUR GOD ?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:09am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
Do u c why I said u r a robot. I asked u a question u went to copy Nd paste!!!!!.

In the same vein for me, when I c someone who teaches what is contrary to the bible I will engage in heated debate to prove the person wrong.

This I have done with u. Only me, I have decimated a full kingdom hall on this thread. Imagine all of u can't defeat me. Do you know why? Because I stand on the truth. Darkness cannot defeat Light. When Light comes darkness disappears.

Help @CANTICLES he said the holy spirit is a force.

I asked if the holy spirit is a force, does it mean all other spirits are force too?

@CANTICLES said no,


Then I asked him if other spirits are not force then y is God's spirit a force?
If you're certain that you've won but your opponents disagreed with your self proclamation as winner, why not go and fetch disciples for the truth elsewhere? cheesy

Must they agree with you?

I don't think Jesus or his disciples thought of winning arguments Sir, they are out to win souls! cheesy

As for the holy spirit it's God's active force NOT a separate entity!

Humans use our physical body parts to do things, angels (spirit beings) possess the body of other creatures to carry out their mission {Genesis 3:1 compare to Matthew 8:29} but God sents out his active force to do whatever he pleases, it's this force that God use in making extraordinary things happen! 1Kings 18:46

It was the fallen angels that were helping the magic practicing priests in Egypt to perform exactly the same thing that God's holy spirit was performing through Moses but when God sent out his ACTIVE FORCE against those demons, they ran away! Exodus 8:19 smiley
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:11am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
How can u claim to worship a God u don't know.Those that worship God worship him in spirit and in TRUTH.

You do not know the Truth about God...so Ur worship is null and void.

Do u worship Jesus Christ?
In your self acclaimed true way of worship
LOVE,JOY,PEACE,PATIENCE,GOODNESS KINDNESS,FAITH,MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL!

If you find these attributes in your form of worship, you're OK! Galatians 5:22-23
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 9:14am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
New Living Translation
Listen! It’s the voice of someone shouting, “Clear the way through the wilderness for the LORD! Make a straight highway through the wasteland for our God!

Our God!!!!...... Abeg who is a path been made for?. ..Ansa this one o...no dodge am....every1, pay attention to @CANTICLES ansa to this!!!

While u r at that!!!!
The bible can't contradict itself , it already told us the Lamb is not our God.

So to answer your question

Matthew 12:18

in order to fulfill what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, who said: Look! My Servant whom I chose

Jehovah sent his servant as a representative.

You can faint now

Palsm 37:39 The salvation of the righteous is from the Lord;
he is their stronghold in the time of trouble.

If u have any sense at all, How can someone be agent, a tool of salvation and yet salvation will belong to him?
This refer to Yahweh, the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob. YHWH the divine name appear here not Lord. U are still this ignorant to know your bible was tampered with ? Google tetragramatton Divine name. And the scales would fall off your eyes
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 9:18am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
If all Spirits are not force then Why should Gods Spirit be a force....is it not God that made other spirits.

Why are other spirits not a force and his a force?
Your voice is getting low , what went wrong grin grin , Did Jesus lied that ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS when there are TWO PERSONS that knows ?


Guy, you are making Jesus a lie with your tradition.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 9:20am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
Guy no run...@CANTICLES is taking a pounding o. Will you not assist him?..... I mean Ur belief is under serious threat. It is hanging by the thread. Isn't there something u can do
The same canticles that you are yet to define what it means to be begotten for ? grin grin grin

Revelation 7:9 is still there o , The lamb is not our God grin grin grin grin

So you were making noise all this while , see as a single verse expose una
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:21am On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
Your voice is getting low , what went wrong grin grin , Did Jesus lied that ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS when there are TWO PERSONS that knows ?

Guy, you are making Jesus a lie with your tradition.
I just pity the poor boy! embarassed

He is surely zealous for God but not in accordance with knowledge.

How can over 41,000 different religions be worshiping the same God yet there is no indication that they're actually worshipers of the same God? huh
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 9:27am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
[s]
Do u c why I said u r a robot. I asked u a question u went to copy Nd paste!!!!!.

In the same vein for me, when I c someone who teaches what is contrary to the bible I will engage in heated debate to prove the person wrong.

This I have done with u. Only me, I have decimated a full kingdom hall on this thread. Imagine all of u can't defeat me. Do you know why? Because I stand on the truth. Darkness cannot defeat Light. When Light comes darkness disappears.

Help @CANTICLES he said the holy spirit is a force.

I asked if the holy spirit is a force, does it mean all other spirits are force too?

@CANTICLES said no,


Then I asked him if other spirits are not force then y is God's spirit a force? [/s]
After the bible says The Lamb is not OUR GOD , u can still make this noise ? You need to be pitied


grin grin grin Since holy spirit is a person , tell us if Jesus lied ? That's all I needed from you.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 9:53am On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
After the bible says The Lamb is not OUR GOD , u can still make this noise ? You need to be pitied


grin grin grin Since holy spirit is a person , tell us if Jesus lied ? That's all I needed from you.
New Living Translation
Listen! It’s the voice of someone shouting, “Clear the way through the wilderness for the LORD! Make a straight highway through the wasteland for our God!

ODE!!!!.....USE YOUR BRAIN NAH.

Who is the "our God" in this passage?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:08am On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
After the bible says The Lamb is not OUR GOD , u can still make this noise ? You need to be pitied


grin grin grin Since holy spirit is a person , tell us if Jesus lied ? That's all I needed from you.
Thanks to Jehovah God and our now reigning King Jesus Christ, Satan's agents like freshboi88 will have carried weapons searching for true Christians to kill!

He wants to preach and teach but can't point to any single group that's practicing Christianity in the right sense.

"look for any Bible believing Church"

That's all he could say whereas there are 41,000 different religions claiming Christians and each of them claims to be a Bible believing Church with worshipers everywhere! cheesy

So how do you now identify the so called Bible believing Church when all of them are saying they belong to Christ? cheesy

His condition is just pathetic! smiley
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 11:35am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
New Living Translation
Listen! It’s the voice of someone shouting, “Clear the way through the wilderness for the LORD! Make a straight highway through the wasteland for our God!

ODE!!!!.....USE YOUR BRAIN NAH.

Who is the "our God" in this passage?
U are getting frustrated Eyah, sorry

Our God is not a servant , is he ?

The one sent was called a servant. ( Matt 12:18)

Jesus himself clarify " I am going to my Father and Your Father , to my God and YOUR GOD "

OUR GOD sent his servant.


Revelation 7:9 is clear enough. The Lamb is not OUR GOD.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Anstone: 11:43am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
Guy no run...@CANTICLES is taking a pounding o. Will you not assist him?..... I mean Ur belief is under serious threat. It is hanging by the thread. Isn't there something u can do
Mouth
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 1:45pm On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
U are getting frustrated Eyah, sorry

Our God is not a servant , is he ?

The one sent was called a servant. ( Matt 12:18)

Jesus himself clarify " I am going to my Father and Your Father , to my God and YOUR GOD "

OUR GOD sent his servant.


Revelation 7:9 is clear enough. The Lamb is not OUR GOD.
I SURE SAY NAH COCONUT DEY INSIDE THAT YOUR HEAD

New Living Translation
Listen! It’s the voice of someone shouting, “Clear the way through the wilderness for the LORD! Make a straight highway through the wasteland for our God![b]


New International Version
Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

@CANTICLES.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given. Will the child be called [b] Mighty God or Servant
....which one did the Isaiah call him?...

Mighty God or Servant ?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 1:48pm On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
I SURE SAY NAH COCONUT DEY INSIDE THAT YOUR HEAD

New Living Translation
Listen! It’s the voice of someone shouting, “Clear the way through the wilderness for the LORD! Make a straight highway through the wasteland for our God![b]


New International Version
Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

@CANTICLES.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given. Will the child be called [b] Mighty God or Servant
....which one did the Isaiah call him?...

Mighty God or Servant ?
Who is the servant at Matthew 12:18, Isaiah 42:1 ?

Jesus is not OUR GOD ( Rev 7:9)

U can faint now
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 1:53pm On May 05, 2020
Maximus69:
Thanks to Jehovah God and our now reigning King Jesus Christ, Satan's agents like freshboi88 will have carried weapons searching for true Christians to kill!

He wants to preach and teach but can't point to any single group that's practicing Christianity in the right sense.

"look for any Bible believing Church"

That's all he could say whereas there are 41,000 different religions claiming Christians and each of them claims to be a Bible believing Church with worshipers everywhere! cheesy

So how do you now identify the so called Bible believing Church when all of them are saying they belong to Christ? cheesy

His condition is just pathetic! smiley
Every gathering that has accepted Jesus as Lord and God. As him through whom is source our salvation is a bible believing church

On the other hand those who deny Jesus, Jesus will deny them before the Father. Shikena.

So my friend u need to go to a bible believing churvh not that cult u call a Christian.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 1:55pm On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
After the bible says The Lamb is not OUR GOD , u can still make this noise ? You need to be pitied


grin grin grin Since holy spirit is a person , tell us if Jesus lied ? That's all I needed from you.
Gee...no rush, we go enta Holy Spirit matter soon. But I first have to open your yansh first in this one. I know say nah wetin u dey avoid. Nor worry bros, one question way I ask dey wait u.

If u know say u get mind, give me the ansa as I ask u o
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 1:59pm On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
Gee...no rush, we go enta Holy Spirit matter soon. But I first have to open your yansh first in this one. I know say nah wetin u dey avoid. Nor worry bros, one question way I ask dey wait u.

If u know say u get mind, give me the ansa as I ask u o
U might cry soon .
grin grin Did Jesus lie only the Father knows when there are TWO PERSONS that know ?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 2:01pm On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
U are missing something " OUR GOD " not just God.

Revelation 7:10 again

" Salvation we owe to OUR GOD, who is seated on the throne , and to the Lamb "

The Lamb is not OUR GOD.
Think about this . freshboi88
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 2:02pm On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
The bible can't contradict itself , it already told us the Lamb is not our God.

So to answer your question

Matthew 12:18

in order to fulfill what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, who said: Look! My Servant whom I chose

Jehovah sent his servant as a representative.

You can faint now



This refer to Yahweh, the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob. YHWH the divine name appear here not Lord. U are still this ignorant to know your bible was tampered with ? Google tetragramatton Divine name. And the scales would fall off your eyes
So I should go to Google for truth in the bible. Is that where u get Ur truth. sorry, I get mine from the Bible, God's inspired word.


New Living Translation
Listen! It’s the voice of someone shouting, “Clear the way through the wilderness for the LORD! Make a straight highway through the wasteland [b]for our God![b]

You are not smart at all.

Ansa the question way I ask u.

According to the verse Who is the path been made for?

God or God's Servant?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 2:05pm On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
U might cry soon .
grin grin Did Jesus lie only the Father knows when there are TWO PERSONS that know ?
@CANTICLES is a COWARD. You dey fear to ansa my question nii.


@CANTICLES.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given. Will the child be called Mighty God or Servant ....which one did the Isaiah call him?...

Mighty God or Mighty Servant ?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 2:07pm On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
Think about this . freshboi88
This one is running....u no dey go anywhere. I go chuck this truth inside ur yansh today ODE!!!!!


@CANTICLES.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given. Will the child be called Mighty God or Servant ....which one did the Isaiah call him?...

Mighty God or Mighty Servant ?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 2:08pm On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
@CANTICLES is a COWARD. You dey fear to ansa my question nii.


@CANTICLES.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given. Will the child be called Mighty God or Servant ....which one did the Isaiah call him?...

Mighty God or Mighty Servant ?
Isaiah called him SERVANT as well ( Isaiah 42:1 )


OUR GOD is not a servant.

Jesus said he is not our God ( John 20:17)
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 2:08pm On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
So I should go to Google for truth in the bible. Is that where u get Ur truth. sorry, I get mine from the Bible, God's inspired word.


New Living Translation
Listen! It’s the voice of someone shouting, “Clear the way through the wilderness for the LORD! Make a straight highway through the wasteland [b]for our God![b]

You are not smart at all.

Ansa the question way I ask u.

According to the verse Who is the path been made for?

God or God's Servant?
Fulfilled by Gods servant .
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 2:17pm On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
This one is running....u no dey go anywhere. I go chuck this truth inside ur yansh today ODE!!!!!


@CANTICLES.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given. Will the child be called Mighty God or Servant ....which one did the Isaiah call him?...

Mighty God or Mighty Servant ?
Servant too ..

Isaiah 42:1 grin grin grin grin

OUR GOD is not a servant.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 3:50pm On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
Servant too ..

Isaiah 42:1 grin grin grin grin

OUR GOD is not a servant.
I agree from the verse u quoted that Isaiah called him Servant. Did he also call him God....Yes or No?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 3:53pm On May 05, 2020
CANTICLES:
Isaiah called him SERVANT as well ( Isaiah 42:1 )


OUR GOD is not a servant.

Jesus said he is not our God ( John 20:17)
Did Isaiah call Jesus God.....Yes or No?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 4:25pm On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
Every gathering that has accepted Jesus as Lord and God. As him through whom is source our salvation is a bible believing church

On the other hand those who deny Jesus, Jesus will deny them before the Father. Shikena.

So my friend u need to go to a bible believing churvh not that cult u call a Christian.
@bolded is the most important!

Jehovah's Witnesses are denying Jesus yet they're producing the fruitage of God's holy spirit shey? cheesy

You sabi no be small Sir! cheesy
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 4:31pm On May 05, 2020
Maximus69:
@bolded is the most important!

Jehovah's Witnesses are denying Jesus yet they're producing the fruitage of God's holy spirit shey? cheesy

You sabi no be small Sir! cheesy
Keep deceiving urself, which fruitage of who?... A force?....does a force have fruitage...
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 4:32pm On May 05, 2020
@CANTICLES dnt run o,

Did Isaiah call Jesus God. Yes or No?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 4:36pm On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
I agree from the verse u quoted that Isaiah called him Servant. Did he also call him God....Yes or No?
Of course just like Moses, Jesus served as both God and Servant!

Moses served as God! Exodus 7:1

And as God's servant! Deuteronomy 34:5

Moses himself referred to Jesus as a servant of God to come and serve the same way he served! Deuteronomy 18:15-18
Peter confirmed that Jesus is the servant of God that Moses foretold will come in the same manner! Act 3:22-23

So Jesus served as a mighty God NOT the Almighty God, he is the small Lord that David was referring to in the Bible book of Psalms 110:1 wink
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