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| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:07am On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:U will spit out blood today.... But about the Son who says? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:08am On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:Dnt run away from Ur lies About the Son. Who says?..... |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 11:10am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Jesus years come to an end when he was killed , The writer wasn't reffering to Jesus . |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 11:11am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Verse 10 - 12 was not a reference to the Son. Must u be disgraced before u learn ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:13am On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard! But of the Son he says:. Who says and who is the Son bros? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:15am On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:Lair!!!....it was a reference to your grand father....ode!!!!!! But about the Son, he says: “God is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.* 9 You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you+ with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”+ 10 And: “At the beginning, O Lord, [b]you[/b]laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands. 11 They will perish, but you will remain; and just like a garment, they will all wear out, 12 and you will wrap them up just as a cloak, as a garment, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will never come to an end.”+ Nah ur ancestors be the Son abi |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 11:15am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Open your senses verse 8 and 9 are a reference to the Son, verse 9 says the Son has a God. The writer was reffering back to The GOD of Jesus Christ In verse 10-12. Jesus years once run out, he is not the one spoke of. Grow some brains |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:17am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:And so? ![]() Please what do you stand to gain with all these argument? ![]() Go and make disciples of the people of all the nations" that's Jesus' order! Matthew 28:19-20 All these arguments on social media make no sense! 1Timothy 6:4 Jesus said if someone disagree with you, move to the next person {Matthew 10:11-14} If you believe in TRINITY and someone insisted that he will not agree so far TRINITY is not written in the Bible, i don't think there is any further need for arguments! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 11:18am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Easy bro ... I understand u are frustrated . Just take a chill pill ![]() But about the Son, he says: “God is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.* 9 You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you+ with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”+ 10 And: “At the beginning, O Lord, you[/b]laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands. 11 They will perish, but you will remain; and just like a garment, they will all wear out, 12 and you will wrap them up just as a cloak, as a garment, and they will be changed. But you are the same, [b] and your years will never come to an end.”+There was a break , " AND " to tell you the writer has shifted focus. Psalm 102 would be a Lie if it was reffering to Jesus . Jesus years came to an end once . he tasted death , the one spoken of here will never taste death |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:28am On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:I think he's just pained that all what those so called Pastors and Daddy GO taught him holds no water! You'll soon see him shift to another Bible text only to start arguing once again! The last time i took him serious was when he vehemently demanded for a quotation to support the house to house and door to door ministry Jesus' disciples did in the first century, after i've given him the quotation that he couldn't refute he said "OK you WIN this" Then i grasped that he is not interested in the truth but just to win arguments, that's why he kept repeating LIAR LIAR each time he fails in an effort to establish his TRINITY God in the Bible! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:35am On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:So And is now a break. Has JW made u this dull. If u r an OLODO today Ur liberation has come And is a conjunction (used to connect grammatically coordinate words, phrases, or clauses) along or together with; as well as; in addition to; besides; also; moreover: AND does not connote a break but a continuation.....Olodo!!!!! But of the Son: Who says ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 11:36am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Did Jesus Years ever run out. ? Did he ever tasted death ? Frustrated man ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:38am On May 09, 2020 |
Maximus69:Jehovah says Jesus created the Heavens and the Earth with the works of his hands Really!!! All u have been taught is a lie..........so John 1:3 and 4 |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:40am On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:So ur And=break lie doesn't hold water anymore. Let's agree on one thing before jumping to another Do u agree that And is a conjunction and cannot be used as a break? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:40am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:OK go and preach to people who will agree with you! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 11:42am On May 09, 2020 |
Barristter07:Become SHARER not BECOME DIVINE NATURE As Heb says about Jesus.... So you're wrong once again! They dont . They have to empty their flesh and blood Nature. Even Jesus is no longer human like you said earlier . the point remains They will HAVE THE DIVINE NATURE.Tell us what happened to the divine nature Jesus emptied....from here to emptied the flesh and blood nature means to die. How did Jesus emptied His own divine nature? That's the question. Besides, you didn't get my earlier point, Jesus is still Human but won't remain human forever. That's what I said earlier. That's not the issue here . No diverting. Jesus empty the divine nature to took on human nature. Scripture is clearHow did Jesus emptied the divine nature? At least you agreed that they will emptied their flesh and blood which means to DIE It's an issue so you can't dodge it! Is scripture not clear in the NATURE THAT CHRIST EXSITS IN BEFORE? Hypocrite! Hehehehe when you realize Sharers doesnt mean Become doesnt work anymore , You ran to Greek text. Interestingly u mention meaning like " PARTNER" , Question is EQUAL PARTNERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE ?It's clear based on the scripture that both Heb 2 and 2 Peter aren't address the same point. As usual twisting scripture to say what it didn't say. Quote the scripture here and show us where this your statement was found there "It was used to explain that the person who shared BECOME SAME with others . EQUAL PARTNERS OF SOMETHING." Lie lie JWs! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 11:48am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:And is a conjunction and a reference to the God of Jesus mentioned in verse 9. I ask if it meant Jesus: Did Jesus ever tastes death ? Did his years ever run out ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:49am On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:But u earlier said it was a break: Why? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 11:50am On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:They can't agree on one thing because their lies will be exposed that's why they keep jumping from one point to another. Everyone knows this about them.... Notice his point asking if Jesus years ever run out or tasting death! When everyone knows that Heb 1:10 was about Jesus and it's a quote from psalm. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:57am On May 09, 2020 |
hmm,i have really read alot.You guys are so good with the bible |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:57am On May 09, 2020 |
Emusan:Dnt mind him I have exposed them with Hebrews. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 12:00pm On May 09, 2020 |
Emusan:Go back to the reference I gave you on how the Greek word at Peters was used to MEAN BECOMING SAME. Tell us what happened to the divine nature Jesus emptied....from here to emptied the flesh and blood nature means to die.You can tell me , What we know is he emptied it before coming to earth , that's why he could become a baby. Besides, you didn't get my earlier point, Jesus is still Human but won't remain human forever. That's what I said earlier. Flesh and blood cannot inherit Gods kingdom. U lied. How did Jesus emptied the divine nature?DIVINE NATURE Human Nature divine Nature. Both doesnt co - exist . or else Philippians will be a lie. It's clear based on the scripture that both Heb 2 and 2 Peter aren't address the same point.You ran to the Greek text isn't it ... I showed you now that greek word meant same . The reference again. To answer this Let us examine how the scripture use this same Greek word for partakers at 2 Corinthians 1:6,7 " YOU ENDURE THE SAME Suffering that we also suffer... You are Sharers ( Koinonos) of the sufferings " It was used to explain that the person who shared BECOME SAME with others . EQUAL PARTNERS OF SOMETHING. That same Greek word at 2Pet 1:4 Do.you now accept they BECOME EQUAL PARTNERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:00pm On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:Jesus years never ran out because in rev 22 12“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Jesus says he is the first and last, beginning and end....there is no break Why did u say it was a break earlier? Jehovah says Jesus created the heavens and the earth with the works of his hands.... Are u calling Jehovah a lair But of the Son he says I am using your own Jehovah Witness Translation so u have no excuse |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:04pm On May 09, 2020 |
Barristter07:This one is stale, I have quashed this arguement with Hebrews 12:10 But about the Son, he says: “God is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.* 9 You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you+ with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”+ 10 And: “At the beginning, O Lord, you[/b]laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands. 11 They will perish, but you will remain; and just like a garment, they will all wear out, 12 and you will wrap them up just as a cloak, as a garment, and they will be changed. But you are the same, [b] and your years will never come to an end.”+ Jehovah says Jesus created the heavens and the earth with the works of his hands. Jesu!!!!!! Even the Jehovah u claim to be witnessing has exposed u. What a shame!!!! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:05pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88: Jesus never died ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:07pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Jesus never died ? One single question dismantle your rants. Dont be ignorantly proud Na disgrace e dey give person. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:07pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Jesus never died ? One single question dismantle your rants. Dont be ignorantly proud Na disgrace e dey give person. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:09pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88: divine nature is not holiness , define nature ? Angels are holy, do u now accept they have divine nature ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:10pm On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:The great hider behind keyboard! I love this your line.... Then since we're FELLOWSHIP/COMMUNION WITH The Holy Spirit then it means we are EQUAL AND THE SAME WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT... Bravo! I know your tune will change now! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:13pm On May 09, 2020 |
Rozz:8 But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. 9 You love justice and hate evil. Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g] 10 He also says to the Son, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth and made the heavens with your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain forever. They will wear out like old clothing. 12 You will fold them up like a cloak and discard them like old clothing. But you are always the same; you will live forever.” 13 And God never said to any of the angels, “Sit in the place of honor at my right hand until I humble your enemies, making them a footstool under your feet.”[i] 14 Therefore, angels are only servants—spirits sent to care for people who will inherit salvation. Isn't it clear that these guys are liars. First they claim Jesus is angel Micheal. Verse 13 @ bolded demolishes that lie. Look at verse 10. Jehovah is clearly telling his son that creation of heaven and earth are the works of his hands. What other evidence is clear than this Juxtapose this with Col 1: 15The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Jehovah Witness Una too LIE Abeg |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by deolumike(m): 12:16pm On May 09, 2020 |
Hi pal! I appreciate the fact that you are taking your time to read this mail. Please I want you to take everything discussed in it seriously, because this is an issue that comes from the depth of my heart which I feel pressed to share with you. It’s about your life and the after-life, where you stand with God. There’s no question about the fact that every human on earth is born into a world of troubles caused by sin, and we continue in sin just as we met it, consequently this has continued to cause untold hardship and injustice in the world and has given the devil a hold on everyone. Fortunately, in spite of the fact that we all have gone astray from God, God still looked for a way to reconcile us to Himself. Atonement of blood was needed for this reconciliation because without the shedding of blood, there couldn’t be forgiveness of sins. That is why Jesus laid down his life by His death on the cross. You might want to ask “why Jesus?” it had to be Jesus because His blood was pure and without blemish. He was sinless. Only His blood could accomplish what the blood of rams and bulls could not do. Now that the work of salvation has been perfected by Jesus, all you need to do is repent, confess and forsake your sins, admit Jesus into your life and believe in Him. You then become a child of God and you have eternal life in you. It is written “as many that received Him, to them gave He the power to become the sons (daughters) of God, even to them that believe on His name” John 1:12. Another portion of scripture says all that believe in the Lord will never be ashamed. I ‘ld also want you to know that the scripture says it’s only through Jesus that we can reach the throne of God. John 14:6. You can look up the Bible for yourself. The Bible goes further to say that “he that believes in the Son (Jesus) has everlasting life, and he that does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him” John 3:36. So that you can escape the tribulation and destruction that shall come at the end of the world and the eternal damnation after this life. You need to surrender your life to Christ. No matter how wicked or bad you think your sins are, He said he will forgive you. I counsel you, my dear friend, to repent today so that you may have eternal life with Christ. If you have decided to give repent and give your life to Christ, please pray this short prayer. Oh God, i thank you for sending Jesus to die for my sins i repent from all my sins and ask for your forgiveness. Give me the grace to walk with you in holiness and grant me eternal life in Jesus name. Amen. . Welcome aboard. You are now a child of God. Please locate a bible-believing fellowship or church and worship there with other children of God. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:20pm On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:No not my rants scripture 8 But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. 9 You love justice and hate evil. Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g] 10 He also says to the Son, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth and made the heavens with your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain forever. They will wear out like old clothing. 12 You will fold them up like a cloak and discard them like old clothing. But you are always the same; you will live forever.”[h] Jehovah calls Jesus Lord and says he created the heavens and the earth!!!....OMG!!! Reconcile it |
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