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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 9:12am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:14am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Despite the fact I explained that statement when you ignorantly claimed it was Past Tense, you can still spew this thrash...Truly there's is a pride in ignorance. When it was shared with them, In what Nature do they exist? They are still human! Their Nature didn't change unless you can proof further that, that's what the verse say. Which Nature was shared with them ? They are still human their Nature didn't change! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:28am On May 07, 2020 |
Barristter07: I'm so happy that you brought up this verse This particular verse should open your eyes but I know it won't. "He too shares in their HUMANITY" this can simply mean something you borrow and not FULLY YOURS....HE DIDN'T EXIST AS HUMAN BEFORE! So to your question, Christ wasn't existed as human because he is not human in the first place and Phil 2 has told us the form He exists so He ONLY SHARES IN HUMANITY. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 9:35am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan:Emphasis on " Sharing is not existing in form " statement of yours Likewise those Christians dont Exist as DIvine natures before they shared it . Was Jesus FULLY HUMAN ON EARTH ? Does his sharing Make him Exist in that humanity form ? That's the bone of contention here. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 9:38am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: So they didn't share the DIVINE NATURE ? the verse was a LIE ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 9:45am On May 07, 2020 |
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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:45am On May 07, 2020 |
Barristter07: May statement is that you share a form doesn't mean you exist in that FORM.... We exist as HUMAN that's is our FORM. Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth because HE SHARES in humanity not that HE WAS HUMAN FROM BEGINNING. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 9:46am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: Isaiah 42:1 " Look! My servant , whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved " God would be lying to call him his servant if he wasn't at the point of writing that verse. Coming from someone who believe Jesus can co- exist with man nature and God nature Who is lying you or the bible ? It says clearly that they share Gods nature. So did scripture lied or what are you trying to prove? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 9:47am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: Do you read the bold ? He shares means existed as human . Apply same to those humans sharing Gods nature. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:50am On May 07, 2020 |
Barristter07: Share divine nature doesn't mean they change from being human because that's not what the verse is all about |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 9:53am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: Hahahahahaha Guy But when Jesus share humanity he was human. Mr , Was the verse LYING they share Gods nature ? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:57am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Isaiah 42 is a prophetic verse which means foreseeing what will happen in the future. Even the same thing happened in Malachi Does that mean John the Baptist has started existing with God that time? Olodo Coming from someone who believe Jesus can co- exist with man nature and God nature Olodo! Didn't that prove to you that Christ as God didn't change His nature which is my point here! Who is lying you or the bible ? It says clearly that they share Gods nature. So did scripture lied or what are you trying to prove? SHARE doesn't mean that is the FORM they exist. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 10:01am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: MY servant is not prophetic , it's a description of the chosen one.
So if you apply that it means those Christians didn't change their human nature yet are fully Of GODS NATURE ?
But Share in the case of Jesus means FORM he exist ? this tight corner wey u enter , na die. So was that verse LYING that they share GODS NATURE ? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 10:03am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: This is the point you still failed to grab! -He was not human from the beginning. -When He shared humanity it didn't stop being God, He's nature of God remains what it is. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 10:08am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: Forget beginning, because even this Christians dont possess Gods nature from beginning. What matters is once someone share in something, they became FULLY part of it. Jesus became Fully human when he shared in humanity, Do you agree this Christians are also FULLY GOD for sharing GODS NATURE ? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 10:13am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: So My Servant was the only statement that chapter Olodo.... Isaiah 42 is a prophetic statement and the fact that Present Perfect Tense was used which I've explained earlier proves you wrong. So if you apply that it means those Christians didn't change their human nature yet are fully Of GODS NATURE ? You keep exposing your ignorance! Whi says they are FULL OF GOD'S NATURE But Share in the case of Jesus means FORM he exist ? this tight corner wey u enter , na die. Where did I say "share in the case of Jesus means FORM he exists?" |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 10:16am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Ansa 1:New International Version Rev 22:9 But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!" The bible confirms that angels are essentially servants.....u can see the angel clearly rejecting been worshipped Ansa 2: By the divine nature he means not the substance of the Godhead, but the partaking of those qualities, by which the image of God is restored in us. In other words that we "may become partakers of the divine nature," not that we are now. To make it clearer to u. Even Jesus's human nature was a partaker of his Divine nature in that it was a resemblance or likeness of his Divine nature. In sense of imitating the virtue of his Divine nature. That's what that verse means. So a similar verse makes it clearer to us Hebrews 12:10; "That we might be partakers of his holiness." To sum it all To be partakers of the divine nature; does not imply essentially, or of the essence of God, so as to be deified, this is impossible, for the nature, perfections, and glory of God, are incommunicable to creatures. How much u go pay for this lecture...c as scales dey fall commot Ur eye |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 10:18am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: Rest man. U have no point What u already possess is called " MY "
Jesus was equal to humans by virtue of his sharing , Do you accept this Christians too are EQUAL to God by their sharing ? " Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth because HE SHARES in humanity " Emusan Do you accept Sharing in GODS NATURE make one FULLY GOD as well ? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 10:21am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Who is Mighty God in that verse...and Ur here shouting El Gibboa like a mad dog. Who is Mighty God in that verse...give me a name |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 10:24am On May 07, 2020 |
Copy and paste guy, una well done. freshboi88: They dont have servant nature BUT are servants . likewise Jesus . Nowhere are angels said to take on nature of servants.
Copy and paste guy well done. One simple question: Was Jesus fully human when he partake of humanity ? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 10:25am On May 07, 2020 |
freshboi88: Kid , El Gibboa appeared in those verses humans are called same.. That ENGLISH translators choose to say it differently DOESNT change that Fact. Kid, you have a lot to learn 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 10:26am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: The point is the form that Christ existed from beginning didn't change when he shared in humanity. The statement "What matters is once someone share in something, they became FULLY part of it." was yours not mine! Your own is to prove to us that, that verse says THEY BECOME FULLY DIVINE NATURE Jesus became Fully human when he shared in humanity, Do you agree this Christians are also FULLY GOD for sharing GODS NATURE ? He became fully human while His original nature doesn't change which means the human nature was just like something borrowed I've said this before. In the case of the Christians now where you'll see that they become FULLY God for sharing God's nature which I even said that's not what the verse was saying in the first place! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 10:35am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: Mr , Your logic is working here big Tyme .... You admitted Jesus partaking of human nature make him FULLY HUMAN, Do you also accept Partaking GODS NATURE make the Christians FULLY GOD ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 10:35am On May 07, 2020 |
ublight: All based on MODE OF OPERATIONS. There are some ORGANIZATION the mode of operation is visible and clear for everyone to see and others INTERWOVEN and INTERTWINED but all ends in the SAME goal or OUTCOME. Our eyes sees WHAT we want it to SEE. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 10:44am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Then it means John the Baptist was already possessed then in heaven.... Is Isaiah 42 a prophetic statement or not? Jesus was equal to humans by virtue of his sharing , Do you accept this Christians too are EQUAL to God by their sharing? Jesus existed as GOD from beginning, that is His form! Share in humanity can mean like adding something which doesn't change the existing one. " Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth because HE SHARES in humanity " Emusan When I said Jesus was fully human on earth, did you know I said His original nature doesn't change? because you neglected that part. Sharing in God's nature doesn't make you FULLY GOD that's why Christ can't be said to be Human forever but Christ existed in form of God from beginning. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 10:49am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: It makes Him fully human while HIS ORIGINAL FORM OR NATURE DIDN'T change because you're trying to remove that from my statement. SHARING/PARTAKING doesn't change the existing form but to have PART which is the point both Heb 2:14 & 2peter 1 are making. Only God can cure your delusions! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 10:50am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: But sharing in Human nature Make Christ FULLY HUMAN ? Do u see how u are speaking from both sides of your mouth. Its a shame on you
So Christ is no longer human ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Jozzy4: 10:56am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: Calm down, we are saying the same thing. unless u mean Jesus was half human when she shared human nature . @ bold , Partaking in human nature makes Jesus FULLY Human, Do u accept partaking in Gods nature make the Christians FULLY GOD ?? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 11:09am On May 07, 2020 |
Emusan: Sharing in GODS NATURE make Christians FULLY GOD TOO!!! , Do you now accept they are equal to God ? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 11:10am On May 07, 2020 |
Jozzy4: The bolded made me shine teeth 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:21am On May 07, 2020 |
Barristter07: They thought being pigheaded is what Christianity entails. Instead of calmly learning from reasoning they want to argue their way forward. All these they will trash without any argument if it's their own Church mOrons that's discussing with them but against Jehovah's Witnesses they'll be like slam their empty skull on the wall angrily! I no go gree for Jehovah's Witnesses 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 1:40pm On May 07, 2020 |
Rozz: They distort scripture...a verse says Mighty God. When I asked him who that Mighty God is...he said mighty chief |
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