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Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 5:59pm On May 10, 2020
ReubenE:
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Don't join priesthood to deceive yourself because you are not priest like, and may end up like the one we are reading about today.

@bold, you are calling out a woman's name in public forum because you "heard" an accusation about her sleeping with a priest in your compound.

When the priest was confronted, did he confess to committing the heinous crime you accuse the woman of?

You're not clever at all. What if they sue you for this comment? Will your defense be relied on hearing the accusation in your compound?
Someone tested you and you failed woefully like a dead wood.

Is this how you will hear confessions from your congregation as a priest, then go into town and start gossiping by calling names? I don't think you can keep that sacred order as a priest.

You even contradicted yourself by claiming you don't just talk from hearsay, whereas, everything you said is based on hearsay.

Was the woman caught or her husband or whatever accused her based on suspicion.

Assembly of God pastor settling marital dispute is not enough evidence for you to go on cyberspace to call names.

If the woman was caught sleeping with a priest, is it the function of Assembly of God pastor to settle it, or the Function of the Bishop to discipline the priest?

For an outsider (Assembly of God pastor) to intervene in a weighty accusation, it is an indication that the details are shaky.
You as an intending priest now relied on that to call out someone's mother on the Internet to back your lame argument.

I dey vex for you
There is what we called PASTORAL ETHICS
GO AND ASK YOUR PRIEST OR PASTOR TO EDUCATE YOU ON THAT. ONLY THEM CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT A PASTOR CALM THE ISSUE
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 6:00pm On May 10, 2020
ReubenE:
If 35 passed, and the required number is between 5 - 8, why do you think you are among those they cheated.

You can't automatically assume the position of being the cheated one because there are still more than 20 candidates that passed the examination without getting admission.

You can't make a good priest with this kind of mindset. You are too emotional to make rational judgement.
Learn to separate yourself from whatever and whoever you're criticising.

The only cogent thing you said is about they offering admission to a candidate that did not pass the test...that's all.

Imagine this scenario. 35 of you passed, twenty of you got recommendation from a bishop, 10 from parish priest, five from the vocation directors.
They offered admission to five candidates recommended by bishops, 1 from parish priest, and one from the directors.
Will you accuse them of cheating because you did not get what you wanted despite the fact that those that got it actually passed the test?

What I see from your write up is that, you have the average mentality of a Nigerian politician..'It must be me attitude'

My advise is that, if you truly desire priesthood, go back to the drawing board and learn the ropes. Study the trend, ask yourself what and what has been depriving you of this opportunity for the past three years.

If you discover that candidates with recommendation from Bishops stand a better chance after passing the test, go make friends with a Bishop or get recommendation from there, or better still, go a little above and get a recommendation from a Archbishop.

Your story is a classical case of 'passing the test is not enough'

Pls go and learn the ropes and know your onions
Go back and get my point. (read that particular place I said DO YOU THINK THEY WILL ACCEPT US BASE ON MERIT OR FAVORITISM)

Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by sowilli: 6:02pm On May 10, 2020
Ishilove:
I am surprised that this kind of nepotism exists in the seminary and by extension the Catholic Church. I would have thought they will be happy to even have your applications. Later later when the one who failed starts misbehaving people will start casting aspersions on the church of God, not knowing the dubious way the person got admitted in the first place.

God is the judge of all. You can still serve God in other capacities so don't be discouraged.
the Catholic Church is now a hustle ground for male and female alike. Many so called priest, Rev father and sisters have sexual partners all over. The Catholic Church is rich and these guys get loads of money. Many of them swear the poverty stuff but they use the money for worldly pleasures! Most of the time, their sexual partners are either married or people in committed relationships. The idea is to keep it very confidential. This set of people won’t want to loose their relationship or be caught in the web also.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Reference(m): 6:03pm On May 10, 2020
stevmatt15:
You want names, right?
Mrs Linda Chukwu. We heard this during the domestic violence with her husband at my compound. Even the priest was confronted, but an Assemblies of God church pastor intervened and the matter died.
My colleague in airport were I work as a security has caught a priest with a married woman making live love in his car, he bribed them, so as not to go to police station in Enugu Emene station
Do you actually thought I am Dastard. I say what happens not what they say they say and he said.
Ha. Once you are identified with all these revelations you are done as far as seeking priesthood is concerned. You may have a a truth and justice seeking chip on your shoulder. Very commendable, but like someone said you come across as a tad bit too emotional. How can you help those who have erred in the ways of God this way.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 6:05pm On May 10, 2020
Antichristus:
@the bolden and coloured text. The director of vocations probably saw through you. In a country with high rate of unemployment, many people have turned to the church ministry, becoming priests. They called themselves. The highlighted text shows you were exploring the priesthood to evade unemployment.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
See, what i meant was this. Now listen.

TO CONVINCE THE VOCATION DIRECTOR THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR JOB BUT TO SERVE GOD, because many want to join because of employment and money, but I said that if a priest was able to convince the vocation director that WE ARE NOT JOINING THE PRIESTHOOD FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY OR JOB BUT TO SERVE GOD.
Oh my goodness, you actually got me wrong bro
Geez!!huhhuh Goose bumps all over me. Please say something to calm me down, before people will believ u ooooo
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 6:06pm On May 10, 2020
Reference:
Ha. Once you are identified with all these revelations you are done as far as seeking priesthood is concerned. You may have a a truth and justice seeking chip on your shoulder. Very commendable, but like someone said you come across as a tad bit too emotional. How can you help those who have erred in the ways of God this way.
Really sorry, some days are like that.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by xtycool: 6:07pm On May 10, 2020
sowilli:
the Catholic Church is now a hustle ground for male and female alike. Many so called priest, Rev father and sisters have sexual partners all over. The Catholic Church is rich and these guys get loads of money. Many of them swear the poverty stuff but they use the money for worldly pleasures!
you got it 100%. fathers r not to be trusted
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 6:09pm On May 10, 2020
sowilli:
the Catholic Church is now a hustle ground for male and female alike. Many so called priest, Rev father and sisters have sexual partners all over. The Catholic Church is rich and these guys get loads of money. Many of them swear the poverty stuff but they use the money for worldly pleasures!
They knows what they are enjoying so they won't want anyhow person to join the seminary, they only want their relatives. In my community, only one person was admitted into the seminary school, but we are among those communities booming the Diocese.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Apination(m): 6:09pm On May 10, 2020
Ishilove:
If you know you cannot keep your vow of celibacy, don't become a Catholic priest or nun. It is better to marry than to burn in passion, thereby causing you to submit your members for all kinds of iniquity.

As for the woman in question, she got her just reward.

1 Tim 5 vs 24-


NLT
There are priests who are not celibate and can marry but our people no like am because we love to accept lies grin
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Neddyogu(m): 6:11pm On May 10, 2020
Ishilove:
I am surprised that this kind of nepotism exists in the seminary and by extension the Catholic Church. I would have thought they will be happy to even have your applications. Later later when the one who failed starts misbehaving people will start casting aspersions on the church of God, not knowing the dubious way the person got admitted in the first place.

God is the judge of all. You can still serve God in other capacities so don't be discouraged.
Na waa for u oo. Where d'yer think the term 'nepotism' originated from?
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 6:21pm On May 10, 2020
Organicist95:
Once again

Thank God someone as insulting as you wasn't admitted into the seminary

The Catholic Church doesn't need your bitter type as priest
When did he told you he wanted to join the seminary?
I WAS THE ONE WHO SAID I TRIED 3yrs. Do you even think or relax your mind before quoting?
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Kobicove(m): 6:22pm On May 10, 2020
stevmatt15:
Brother, I am a devout Catholic, I didn't say a priest didn't write any for me, but the one they requested must come from your parish priest, I mean your present parish priest, so we did by getting one from our parish priest, but what you don't understand is that, we were 75 that came to the exam to which 35 passed, now out of that 35, do you think they are going to choose on merit, NO, they won't. because they only need at least 5-8 persons to be admitted that year. they. So let's see it this way. If the Bishop, vicar General, assistant to the Bishop, treasural, secretary, or those lecturers in the seminary school gave a list of those they recommended or suggested or wished to join the seminary, do you think the Vocation directors will drop those candidate to choose we that only came with a recommendation letter from a priest we are not that acquainted to, remember that even the Vocation directors has his own cherish candidate including the people his friends wishes to include in the seminary. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENT THAT YOU ARE AN ALTAR SERVER IN A PARISH AND THAT YOU ARE A RELATIVE OF A PARISH PRIEST. I hope u definitely understand where I base my word? The same politics plays in recruiting soldiers, police, custom, etc is been played the worse in church. I believe you are a Nigerian, well, since none of your relatives has experience it, you may think I am lying. I still have the recommendation letters two priest gave to me here. Have you ever seen a poor and educated and intelligent man become the PRESIDENT OF THE CATHOLIC MEN ORGANISATION, or a poor woman become a Leader in the women organisation?
No, you must be rich and well connected, some women do sleep with priests to get that position, which is likely to be the reason the wife of this man died on bed with a priest. My brother, stop seeing those white garment men as Jesus. Many but not all are Jezebel's Husband AHAB. I REST MY CASE.
What's the big deal in becoming in priest sef?

As far as I'm concerned it makes you loose out on a lot of things undecided
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 6:25pm On May 10, 2020
Kobicove:
What's the big deal in becoming in priest sef?

As far as I'm concerned it makes you loose out on a lot of things undecided
It is just a passion that overtook me when doing my ND2 first semester.
I just got the vocation, then I gave it a try, even when my coursemate was completing their HND. they are now serving, while I am here.
I KEPT TRYING, BUT, THIS IS WHERE I FOUND MYSELF.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Bahamas95(m):
Though I'm a sex addict I will NEVER, I repeat I will NEVER sleep with someone's wife. The priest is a mumu man, nor be by force to be priest. He for respect himself quit and marry like that Naija Reverend sister.



I wonder wetin the woman go talk for dat side when dem ask her wetin kill her.

Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 6:40pm On May 10, 2020
stevmatt15:
When did he told you he wanted to join the seminary?
I WAS THE ONE WHO SAID I TRIED 3yrs. Do you even think or relax your mind before quoting?
Didn't check the moniker
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 6:41pm On May 10, 2020
Organicist95:
Once again

Thank God someone as insulting as you wasn't admitted into the seminary

The Catholic Church doesn't need your bitter type as priest
Read very well, am not the semenerian, look at ur head like okpa. You guys at that school know what you are hiding. That's why you are trying to prevent true Gods choosen. But you shall not succeed
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Hollysaint: 6:45pm On May 10, 2020
Please brother have you tried another diocese? Most diocese in the north lack priests unlike south east especially Anambra with excess priests.Also try out out missionary priests that is not diocesan priests.They are usually very fair don't give up your call from God brouse about very missionary priests and how you can join in Nigeria
stevmatt15:
I tried it for 3 years, (just gave up this year) but since me and my four friends no get top priests to speak to Vocations director on our behalf nor write a befitting or convincing recommendation to him, that we are not just here looking for work, we even left polytechnic to pursue this seminary admission, we passed their entrance examinations, but what happened then, they even gave admission to someone who failed the test. Nigerian Catholic Church Leaders. MAY GOD JUDGE US ALL. AMEN.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by tuborme: 6:46pm On May 10, 2020
stevmatt15:
Brother, I am a devout Catholic, I didn't say a priest didn't write any for me, but the one they requested must come from your parish priest, I mean your present parish priest, so we did by getting one from our parish priest, but what you don't understand is that, we were 75 that came to the exam to which 35 passed, now out of that 35, do you think they are going to choose on merit, NO, they won't. because they only need at least 5-8 persons to be admitted that year. they. So let's see it this way. If the Bishop, vicar General, assistant to the Bishop, treasural, secretary, or those lecturers in the seminary school gave a list of those they recommended or suggested or wished to join the seminary, do you think the Vocation directors will drop those candidate to choose we that only came with a recommendation letter from a priest we are not that acquainted to, remember that even the Vocation directors has his own cherish candidate including the people his friends wishes to include in the seminary. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENT THAT YOU ARE AN ALTAR SERVER IN A PARISH AND THAT YOU ARE A RELATIVE OF A PARISH PRIEST. I hope u definitely understand where I base my word? The same politics plays in recruiting soldiers, police, custom, etc is been played the worse in church. I believe you are a Nigerian, well, since none of your relatives has experience it, you may think I am lying. I still have the recommendation letters two priest gave to me here. Have you ever seen a poor and educated and intelligent man become the PRESIDENT OF THE CATHOLIC MEN ORGANISATION, or a poor woman become a Leader in the women organisation?
No, you must be rich and well connected, some women do sleep with priests to get that position, which is likely to be the reason the wife of this man died on bed with a priest. My brother, stop seeing those white garment men as Jesus. Many but not all are Jezebel's Husband AHAB. I REST MY CASE.
I was in the seminary also... becoming a priest is not a do or die affair. From the things you are writing ✍️ here, I have already seen the reason why you won’t make a good priest. Prejudice! You will never accept the will of God in your life. You can serve God from wherever you are. Talking about those who did not pass exams, go and read about John Vianey ! It’s the Holy Spirit that owns the vocation and He chooses the weak to shame the strong!
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Hollysaint: 6:48pm On May 10, 2020
Please never give up.God on your knees ask God if it is him that called you let him show you the path we wants you to follow to answer his call.
stevmatt15:
It is just a passion that overtook me when doing my ND2 first semester.
I just got the vocation, then I gave it a try, even when my coursemate was completing their HND. they are now serving, while I am here.
I KEPT TRYING, BUT, THIS IS WHERE I FOUND MYSELF.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by kabillionaire(m): 6:57pm On May 10, 2020
Old news! Nairaland should step up the game, read about this over a week ago.

This's a common trend with catholic priests, I once caught one red-handed banging a babe, 70% of roman catholic priests have children; who wan carry lasthuh
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by buikem2: 7:06pm On May 10, 2020
stevmatt15:
Brother, I am a devout Catholic, I didn't say a priest didn't write any for me, but the one they requested must come from your parish priest, I mean your present parish priest, so we did by getting one from our parish priest, but what you don't understand is that, we were 75 that came to the exam to which 35 passed, now out of that 35, do you think they are going to choose on merit, NO, they won't. because they only need at least 5-8 persons to be admitted that year. they. So let's see it this way. If the Bishop, vicar General, assistant to the Bishop, treasural, secretary, or those lecturers in the seminary school gave a list of those they recommended or suggested or wished to join the seminary, do you think the Vocation directors will drop those candidate to choose we that only came with a recommendation letter from a priest we are not that acquainted to, remember that even the Vocation directors has his own cherish candidate including the people his friends wishes to include in the seminary. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENT THAT YOU ARE AN ALTAR SERVER IN A PARISH AND THAT YOU ARE A RELATIVE OF A PARISH PRIEST. I hope u definitely understand where I base my word? The same politics plays in recruiting soldiers, police, custom, etc is been played the worse in church. I believe you are a Nigerian, well, since none of your relatives has experience it, you may think I am lying. I still have the recommendation letters two priest gave to me here. Have you ever seen a poor and educated and intelligent man become the PRESIDENT OF THE CATHOLIC MEN ORGANISATION, or a poor woman become a Leader in the women organisation?
No, you must be rich and well connected, some women do sleep with priests to get that position, which is likely to be the reason the wife of this man died on bed with a priest. My brother, stop seeing those white garment men as Jesus. Many but not all are Jezebel's Husband AHAB. I REST MY CASE.
They didn't admit you and you became this ugly and bitter in attitude.
Omo, thank God you were not admitted oh. This attitude would've made you a terrible priest
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by bejeria101(m): 7:14pm On May 10, 2020
Priest wey be knackist lol
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 7:23pm On May 10, 2020
buikem2:
They didn't admit you and you became this ugly and bitter in attitude.
Omo, thank God you were not admitted oh. This attitude would've made you a terrible priest
Sorry for that, I was only expressing my feeling
You will do the same, if you were in my shoes.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 7:24pm On May 10, 2020
tuborme:
I was in the seminary also... becoming a priest is not a do or die affair. From the things you are writing ✍️ here, I have already seen the reason why you won’t make a good priest. Prejudice! You will never accept the will of God in your life. You can serve God from wherever you are. Talking about those who did not pass exams, go and read about John Vianey ! It’s the Holy Spirit that owns the vocation and He chooses the weak to shame the strong!
OK, Bro, sorry for expressing my experience in such manner, it is just painful you know. Seeing your course mates graduate while you were trying to join the seminary, it hurt.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 7:29pm On May 10, 2020
Hollysaint:
Please brother have you tried another diocese? Most diocese in the north lack priests unlike south east especially Anambra with excess priests.Also try out out missionary priests that is not diocesan priests.They are usually very fair don't give up your call from God brouse about very missionary priests and how you can join in Nigeria
Do you think I didn't try that. I tried Jalingo Diocese, but the vocation director told me that I must spend at least one year before they can CONSIDER admitting me.

Lokoja Diocese, the priest, a resident priest at the university of Koji Idah told me that I will spend 2 years before applying. The application letter I submitted through POST OFFICE to Minna Diocese the vocation director said he did not receive any, He himself told me that there Exams is 1week time. Bro I tried my possible best for the 3yrs. I can't tell why it happened like this. I have to move on, maybe next year, depending, I can go and complete my HND with SHAME of leaving at first.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 7:34pm On May 10, 2020
tuborme:
I was in the seminary also... becoming a priest is not a do or die affair. From the things you are writing ✍️ here, I have already seen the reason why you won’t make a good priest. Prejudice! You will never accept the will of God in your life. You can serve God from wherever you are. Talking about those who did not pass exams, go and read about John Vianey ! It’s the Holy Spirit that owns the vocation and He chooses the weak to shame the strong!
But I hope u are not telling me to remain mute from saying the evil I see priests commitshuh
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 7:36pm On May 10, 2020
Bahamas95:
Though am a sex addict but I will NEVER, I repeat I will NEVER sleep with someone's wife. The priest is a mumu man, nor be by force to be priest. He for respect himself quit and marry like that Naija Reverend sister.



I wonder wetin the woman go talk for dat side when dem ask her wetin kill her.
She didn't believe there is heaven or earth.
She believed heaven and earth is here on earth. So she gonna enjoy it life and death. Leaving her family in perpetual shame.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by NwaEnugwuukwu(m): 7:37pm On May 10, 2020
stevmatt15:
Thanks.
My Paris priest told me to be careful about the congregations I applied to, because many of them do not have a strong seat in Rome, while many of them don't have valid authority from the Bishop, etc, such congregations can expel you in the theology level just to have fewer seminarians to ordain, because they were not that popular or rich in terms of ordaining priests or having parishes on their own, etc, just things like that.
About being a religious priest, Sir, I really tried my best. I applied to Somascan, Claratians, Dominican, Capuchin, Redemptorist (the Vocations director told me they are on recession because of financial status, etc so they have not been accepting application letter for two years) and for the rest, I went for the first encounter and second encounter, which I spent 3 days in the mission house. Only God knows why I was not admitted. I have to move on, IT IS NOT A DO OR DIE AFFAIR. if that is HIS WILL, then who am I to twist it.
And for joining the seminary after primary, that will only help if you have the connections needed. We know about 35 of the aspirants that attended the same minor seminary school that we wrote the entrance exam in, but, during the day of our interview, we didn't see many of them, they didn't even pass the simple examination but they attended the minor seminary school. When I met one of them who failed on my way to park, we discussed, but, but, but, he said he is only trying his best because he knows that he is going no where, even if he came out in flying colors, that they won't grant him admission. He was the one that told me to call all the priest I know to assist rather than me depending on my intelligence or education. He really said many things which I believed. So Bro/Sir. We are in the world of who knows who. No connection nothing for you. I just pray I succeed with the NIGERIAN POLICE FORCE. I have to make a living nah!!!
Hmmm.., From the things you have said, I can only conclude that God never wanted you to serve Him as a priest.

When I graduated from the University in 2016, many priests were disturbing me then to join priesthood which I wasn't interested due to issue of celibacy and chastity. At one time my friend, a Rev. Sr. from Chile was a kind of making it a must thing.

So from the little knowledge and experiences I had, it's not all that difficult the way you're painting it here. Though I know that most Dioceses who already have a lot of priests and also some top Congregations usually make the entry process tough just to control the number of people joining.

But as I said earlier, maybe God never wanted you to serve Him as a priest.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by Nobody: 7:39pm On May 10, 2020
NwaEnugwuukwu:
Hmmm.., From the things you have said, I can only conclude that God never wanted you to serve Him as a priest.

When I graduated from the University in 2016, many priests were disturbing me then to join priesthood which I wasn't interested due to issue of celibacy and chastity. At one time my friend, a Rev. Sr. from Chile was a kind of making it a must thing.

So from the little knowledge and experiences I had, it's not all that difficult the way you're painting it here. Though I know that most Dioceses who already have a lot of priests and also some top Congregations usually make the entry process tough just to control the number of people joining.

But as I said earlier, maybe God never wanted you to serve Him as a priest.
I painted it the way it is here in ENUGU DIOCESE.
ANYWAY, IT IS GODS WILL.
Re: Abel Mwelwa: Zambian Priest Suspended After Married Lover Died In His House by NwaEnugwuukwu(m): 7:54pm On May 10, 2020
stevmatt15:
You want names, right?
Mrs Linda Chukwu. We heard this during the domestic violence with her husband at my compound. Even the priest was confronted, but an Assemblies of God church pastor intervened and the matter died.
My colleague in airport were I work as a security has caught a priest with a married woman making live love in his car, he bribed them, so as not to go to police station in Enugu Emene station
Do you actually thought I am Dastard. I say what happens not what they say they say and he said.
I just went through all your comments here and the only thing I will advise you is to forget about becoming a priest. Just go and finish your HND program, get a job and serve God through other ways.
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