Saucyxo:


How is it false ?

Because of Boko Haram I call Muslims terrorists. Is this correct or false?

This was a comparable analogy. You are allowed to visit the queens house. The queen is a thief. If I called her that in her home amongst her followers, I promise you something will start and I will spend a night in prison. Common sense tells me that.

Again, saying the Queen is a thief is under free speech except the Queen is a dictator. A dictator will imprison you for speaking bad of them, a democratic leader will not except you're defaming his character which is an offence in law.

Understand an authoritarian/totalitarian leader and democratic leader.

That is exactly the kind of society Nigeria is. An oppressive society. You know this, I know this, He knew this. What did he think would happen?

So because the society is oppressive we should move along with it? Wait why do we have activist or human rights advocates?

His freedom of expression also allows him to wear army camouflage clothes. Again, I’m privileged to live in a society where there would be consequences for my actions. I am held accountable by my societal standards. The societal standards would make that unacceptable. There are lots of things the law doesn’t allow me to do that I’ll do and no one will care. In both the USA and most European countries, Jaywalking is actually against the law. In the USA I’m sure the police officers would give you a huge smile while you jaywalk not so much in Norway. Their societal standards finds jaywalking to be far more transgressing. Germany you can’t denounce the holocaust and love hitler it’s a crime. I’m sure you know Germany holds the virtue freedom of expression much higher than that of Nigeria. Many people have been arrested and imprisoned for denying the holocaust all over Europe. There are hate speech laws all over Europe. Even if there weren’t, Maybe it’s just me. It’s 100% complete common sense not to be around Muslims and call one of the most important figures a murderer. I wouldn’t even need to tell my 3 year old cousin that.

Hate speech is not a crime in a free society. Why are people imprison for denying the holocaust? If this is true then it's against free speech and human rights. No human rights advocates will agree to this. Infact I'm sure they're protesting against this.

Anyways, like I’ve said before and I will say again. I don’t agree with his arrest, however, I don’t believe this is peculiar to Islam and Muslims.

Ok, what does Islam says about blasphemy and apostasy?

I would slap you if you came to my house and called my sister a thief even if my sister has been caught stealing 200000000x and it was on FOX news. Especially if I know I could get away with it in Nigerian society.

So you know it's an offence you slap and you know you can use corruption to get away with it.

Like I said, retaliating with physical attack because of an insult doesn't carry same weight.

I see that you’re here to go back and forth and money haffi mekkkkkkkkkkkkk. There’s people in this world making money and I can’t imagine wasting that time being unproductive.

I have lots of atheist friends and I find that there are two types of people: people who respect your beliefs but ask to understand even if they don’t agree, and people who skim over information so they can have something to say to seem knowledgeable. You’re only talking to yourself. This is just a random forum online. You don’t make money, you can only gain knowledge. Good and bad knowledge. I completely understand why someone would be atheist. I see reason and logic in their actions. My friends completely understand why I’m Muslim. They see reason and logic in my actions. That’s that. When I see something about atheism that blows my mind, I read about it and ask them in order for me to understand and vice versa. I’m sure you can find something more productive to do with your time. If you want to ask a question please ask. However, I’m not going back and forth with you about your state of mind. Lol I’m not here to change your mind.

Ok.

tintingz:


Because of Boko Haram I call Muslims terrorists. Is this correct or false?

Again, saying the Queen is a thief is under free speech except the Queen is a dictator. A dictator will imprison you for speaking bad of them, a democratic leader will not except you're defaming his character which an offence in law.

Understand an authoritarian/totalitarian leader and democratic leader.

So because the society is oppressive we should move along with it? Wait why do we have activist or human rights protection?



Hate speech is not a crime in a free society. Why are people imprison for denying the holocaust? If this is true then it's again free speech and human rights. No human rights advocates will agree to this.

Ok, what does Islam says about blasphemy and apostasy?

So you know it's an offence you slap and you know you can use corruption to get away with it.

Like I said, retaliating with physical attack because of an insult doesn't carry same weight.



Ok.

Everything is perspective. They can say they are.


Maybe I’m not explaining this properly. It’s not illegal to insult the queen. However it is a crime to cause distress by using insults. Distress is the only thing that will happen if I call the queen a thief in front of her followers in Buckingham. Even if I write it on Facebook, everyone saw it then I went to where her followers are. Not only is it a crime to cause such distress by my speech, it is also very stupid.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial Here you go my dear. I chose Wikipedia because it’ll give you an overview.

How do you think laws are made? I’m sure you know some divine entity didn’t analyse and survey societies and an algorithm was created that would ensure civility. Man make laws as necessary and remove them as necessary. Freedom of speech and expression like any principle is not absolute. There are restrictions. Look up the law yourself.

Lol so ? That’s Nigerian society lol. See I’m not saying you shouldn’t fight it. We have history books and the entire world here on our phones. Google how human rights activists fight. But let’s be serious here, he wasn’t there to create civil bridge building relationships, my guy wanted trouble and he got it. Is it fair ? No lol but that’s his fault. It’s so stupid.

Have a lovely day though!

Saucyxo:


Everything is perspective. They can say they are.

So it's correct to call all Muslims terrorists. Ok.

Maybe I’m not explaining this properly. It’s not illegal to insult the queen. However it is a crime to cause distress by using insults. Distress is the only thing that will happen if I call the queen a thief in front of her followers in Buckingham. Even if I write it on Facebook, everyone saw it then I went to where her followers are. Not only is it a crime to cause such distress by my speech, it is also very stupid.

So what if the Queen is a thief? Will I be giving chance to prove it or be imprisoned immediately?

A democratic leader won't imprison you just like that, you will have to prove your claim.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial Here you go my dear. I chose Wikipedia because it’ll give you an overview.

I'm not denying some countries don't criminalize holocaust denial, I'm staying it's again human rights and free speech.

Read this where human rights advocates are against such law.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

How do you think laws are made? I’m sure you know some divine entity didn’t analyse and survey societies and an algorithm was created that would ensure civility. Man make laws as necessary and remove them as necessary. Freedom of speech and expression like any principle is not absolute. There are restrictions. Look up the law yourself.

Free speech isn't absolute yes, reason you can't defame anyone.

Lol so ? That’s Nigerian society lol. See I’m not saying you shouldn’t fight it. We have history books and the entire world here on our phones. Google how human rights activists fight. But let’s be serious here, he wasn’t there to create civil bridge building relationships, my guy wanted trouble and he got it. Is it fair ? No lol but that’s his fault. It’s so stupid.

He's being oppressed, so he aired his opinions. Many people see Muhammad as a terrorists from what he did. Denying he did not is just like the holocaust denial.

Have a lovely day though!

And you too.

Saucyxo:


Great! I love MLK. MLK preached in church then got a backing and then preached in black areas. He had many white supporters. He made strategic and CRUCIAL alliances. He talked and created bridges. MLK didn’t understandably wake up, decide to go to white neighbourhoods and start calling them racist bigoted trash one day. Because he knew that was plain silly. It would get him arrested and put in jail and his mission wouldn’t be accomplished. If you look at MLK’s motives, it was often to reach an agreement. To have civil discussions and relay the frustrations of black Americans. Not to insult white people. In what world would that have worked? “Good” white people supported MLK because he wanted equality. If he was calling them vile creatures and saying they were trash I’m sure there would be no “good” white people.

Whooooo told you I don’t live in Nigeria? Anyways, it’s just reality. Nigeria doesn’t practice freedom of speech, it doesn’t make sense that you demand it to be practiced in the most sensitive way.

I asked a simple question.

WHAT DID THE ATHEIST SAY THAT WAS DISRESPECTFUL?


The atheist was speaking his own mind on his belief ON HIS OWN FACEBOOK PAGE. MLK on the other hand went on to the streets to protest. MLK didn't just complain in the media. Do you know that he was accused of slander despite his peaceful ways?

Do you see how much of a liar you have become.just like Empiree to defend islam? You cannot even point out what is disrespectful about what the atheist said.

whitelotus:

Do you see how much of a liar you have become.just like Emp.iree to defend islam? You cannot even point out what is disrespectful about what the atheist said.

why you keep spamming my moniker now

Empiree:
why you keep spamming my moniker now

Because you spam fake news?

whitelotus:



Because you spam fake news?

you have a problem and you still have unanswered question. But I'm ignoring you for now.

Brayss:
what time and which station about the quiz programe

this was just posted few mins ago

Nailed It


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOkwRGpc_GQ&t=326s

Live Quiz


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXE8klWm3Rg

Culled from ex-Muslim reddit

Some funny

You need to watch this video. It is an hr and 22 mins long. But where i want to use it where a christian caller is cursing. Don't ever ever belief christians are peaceful their religion is peaceful. Watch the scenario from 1 hr 7 mins.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Co3Cj8Z4Y&t=4373s


You need to hear CHRISTIAN man named Segun and cursed Acadip by Ogun, sanpona, oya, go kill mallam, his studio, his companions etc Islam dey pain this people faa.

So these CHRISTIANs are so intolerant, wallah. They preach fake love, wallah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C79R7e1yU2k

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11468008_screenshot20200503152948twitter_jpeg8a1295f3a8c6b77a411af7b8d97d5e2b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYb-kEWO3pQ

Just moved to a new place and with this Coro issues, haven't been able to visit a mosque. SO after checking the qibla directions. I would like to ask, does someone just face up north ( the purple line ) OR bend and align to east ( red line )

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVcjvWC3FvY

Bala Mubarak 's fate is unknown

Police are keeping quiet on his case
http://saharareporters.com/2020/05/09/police-where-mubarak-bala-leo-igwe

FleppyDon:
Just moved to a new place and with this Coro issues, haven't been able to visit a mosque. SO after checking the qibla directions. I would like to ask, does someone just face up north ( the purple line ) OR bend and align to east ( red line )

Bend a little

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc62MppwN4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyYFBpY79-U

FleppyDon:
Just moved to a new place and with this Coro issues, haven't been able to visit a mosque. SO after checking the qibla directions. I would like to ask, does someone just face up north ( the purple line ) OR bend and align to east ( red line )

Last I checked the qibla was approx. N60E° in Nigeria.
You face east then bend just a little to the north

IMAliyu:

Last I checked the qibla was approx. N60E° in Nigeria.
You face east then bend just a little to the north

What about Qibla in outer space? There are muslim astronauts

whitelotus:



What about Qibla in outer space? There are muslim astronauts

I'm not sure if you're serious or just messing around.
But let me entertain the question either way.

It depends on what part of space they're at.
If to say they were at the International Space Station which is in low earth orbit.
Since it's in orbit constantly going round the earth, the ruling for praying while traveling applies here. That means they can face any direction for their qibla, but I'd imagine the direction of the earth(down) would be it in this case.
In the Ender's game scifi series, one of the characters which was suppose to be a Muslim, while aboard their space ship used the sun as his qibla in prayer.

Now let's assume they can and do land on a planet or moon and somehow have a colony there, since they are all off the earth, they are allowed to decide for themselves the direction, but I'd assume the chosen direction would be where they first landed on that planet/moon.

IMAliyu:


I'm not sure if you're serious or just messing around.
But let me entertain the question either way.

It depends on what part of space they're at.
If to say they were at the International Space Station which is in low earth orbit.
Since it's in orbit constantly going round the earth, the ruling for praying while traveling applies here. That means they can face any direction for their qibla, but I'd imagine the direction of the earth(down) would be it in this case.
In the Ender's game scifi series, one of the characters which was suppose to be a Muslim, while aboard their space ship used the sun as his qibla in prayer.

Now let's assume they can and do land on a planet or moon and somehow have a colony there, since they are all off the earth, they are allowed to decide for themselves the direction, but I'd assume the chosen direction would be where they first landed on that planet/moon.

Interesting. However, the moon is at different position from the earth. So, qibla changes at different moon cycles.

Empiree onijogbon bawo ni yin?

Saucyxo:
Empiree onijogbon bawo ni yin?

Egbon Empiree

whitelotus:



Egbon Empiree

That’s my uncle, abeg respect yourself.

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