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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 1:37pm On May 15, 2020 |
Hello house I was just discussing with a friend, she told me that my country is better than UK. She said I should not border to come to UK, that the country is hard. I told her my wife is in UK, she advice I can be visiting her. Please house I need help o for those of you that live in the UK. What are the advantages and disadvantages. Those of you that left Nigeria to UK, is UK better than Nigeria? What were the experience, Am I better off in Nigeria than UK? I am working presently and earning up to 200k, with medical, leave allowance of 200k and 13th month. (Can I get all these benefits in the UK?) My wife also keep complaining that UK is difficult. I am confused. I was just contemplating telling her to come bk and get a health care job . I need advice please my bros and sisters on how you guys were able to make it in the UK. What are the advantages of me staying in the UK. I studied Germany language, what can I start to do to get a good job. How can u guys convince me that UK is better. Thank you |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 2:35pm On May 15, 2020 |
LuvlyIva: Did you say your wife doesn’t want you to join her? Or what’s her ongoing complaint about? Is it that UK is difficult because she’s the only one there and she needs you around to share the burden? Or is the complaint to discourage you from joining her? That said, individual circumstances are different, and what works for A may not necessarily work for B. Your decision should therefore be based on your personal circumstance, including but not limited to the answers to my questions above, your wife’s visa status, your family situation (kids, dependent parents/siblings, etc.), your wife’s employment status and earnings (can she support the whole family - including you - during your settling in/unemployment/underemployment period, which could last between 3-24 months), and so on. No one has to convince you that anywhere is better. It’s your life, your decision, but most importantly, what does your wife want, being the one you’d be joining? Is she excited about you making the move or she’d rather you stayed put? 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by mamacajah: 3:24pm On May 15, 2020 |
LuvlyIva: Did you say you studied German Language or that you speak German? Do you understand it fluently? If yes, then you can consider Germany for options. Right now, all countries are going through challenges because of the corona virus..however no one has declared recession yet, so I don't think it's that bad yet. It all depends on the individual's circumstances... even Americans have complained about their own countries and relocated to other places. That didn't change the fact that others are doing well there. Life is all about taking risks and addressing challenges as they come. No place is perfect. Talking of benefits here and there, you may not really know until you spend time there. Is our health system one to compare with UK or other developed nations? When Nigerian doctors and nurses are leaving in droves, you want her to come back and enter a system that is already ridden with problems and bureaucratic bottlenecks? Yes people pay a lot money for taxes but they also benefit from it. Just look at this corona issue and the countries are giving back to their people to help them in this period. IS Nigeria able to do likewise? Does your wife's visa allow for you to work there? If yes, then you can go do a trial run and see if you like the environment. If not, then I pray, that God would help you make the right decision. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 3:34pm On May 15, 2020 |
LuvlyIva: If you are comfortable in your country, you should stay put and visit whichever country you like. You wont get 13th Month salary in the UK and they don't share rice and veg oil at Christmas either, you might get plenty of chocolate at the office They don't speak German in the UK... Your wife is in a better position to tell you all the difficulties 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 5:42pm On May 15, 2020 |
profemebee: Your council tax will become more expensive though with more than 1 adults or you need the council tax bill for a specific reason |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 7:06pm On May 15, 2020 |
fatima04: You can't chop ur puff puff and still want it...... |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by profemebee(m): 9:42pm On May 15, 2020 |
I need the council flat to have my name cos i want to use it as one of the Utility bills documents to apply for uk spousal visa extension as it will have both our names.. Thought it is better to show docs with both names on it.. pls correct me if need be oo fatima04: |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by profemebee(m): 9:43pm On May 15, 2020 |
pls dont remind me of naija food oooo soft hot puff puff.. i miss it.. Lexusgs430: |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by profemebee(m): 9:46pm On May 15, 2020 |
Hello Bro. I just moved in October and i can say i have never been at peace in yearsssssssssssss.. i no longer wake 4.20am... no longer drive out like an armed robber at 4.50am just to avoid traffic... i no longer see traffic... that alone is a killer.. I no longer worry about putting on generator when the power goes.. my earnings and savings been improved immensely... i can provide more for my peeps in naija.. etccccccccccccccccccc LuvlyIva: 12 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 10:23pm On May 15, 2020 |
profemebee: What she is talking about is a discount you get if it is said that only one adult lives in the property. I think its 25 percent discount for single person However if your wife and sister was on the bill then chances are the property was not on a single person discount so not applicable anyway. If you are doing spouse Visa extension then its essential you have evidence that you live together and a bill together is an evidence 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by dustydee: 11:15pm On May 15, 2020 |
LuvlyIva:It depends on your personal situation and preference. You or others may not necessarily agree with my position but I will speak only for myself. I had a very good job in Nigeria and decided to accept an offer here after my education. In the first 2 months I was enjoying my job and learning a lot. A few months later I started having regrets. I still sometimes wish I hadn't left and plan to go back if I can find something equivalent to what I had before I left. What I left was effective a job for life, excellent allowances and pension and many benefits which no employer in the UK I know offers. Someone talked about our health system not being comparable to the NHS, that is true but there are hospitals in Nigeria that are better than the NHS. I had access to some of those through my employer then but the "ordinary" person may not be able to afford it. For some, Nigeria is a hell hole and will do anything to leave, if you fall in that category then please move. As for me it was not my intention to remain here but made a decision to accept the offer. I am still not convinced I made the right decision but I have learned a great deal and overall I am better at my job (which I am tired of and thinking of a career change). The major downside for me will be security and poor infrastructure. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 3:53am On May 16, 2020 |
profemebee: I see, in that case your best bet is the tenancy and/or council tax bill |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by dafemnet: 9:55am On May 16, 2020 |
LuvlyIva:If you're on 200k monthly then UK is better if you can cope with the weather. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 11:12am On May 16, 2020 |
dafemnet: Thank you for your response but, our money is not the same. 200k in Nigeria is lot of Money. So how much can I be earning in the UK. And what is the minimum salary for one that doesn't have a certificate. What kind of job can I do as I come in UK. Thank you 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 11:18am On May 16, 2020 |
dustydee: Thank you. I appreciate your response. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 11:20am On May 16, 2020 |
profemebee: Lol! No more up NEPA!!! Thank you. Please give me more u are enjoying |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 11:24am On May 16, 2020 |
DisGuy: Thank you for your response. But do they pay leave allowance for all job? Are they other benefits one get why working that can cover the 13th month? |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 11:29am On May 16, 2020 |
mamacajah: Nigeria provided alot for its citizens during this Corona ooo! A lot of food items. Yes I studied Germany in the university but, not very good in speaking. My wife just got her permanent residence. Thank you for your previous response |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 11:31am On May 16, 2020 |
LuvlyIva: Why is the 13th month so important if i may ask, if you get paid well... Yes you get paid annual leave, 23-29 days Maternity leave 6-1 year Paid Paternity leave 2weeks or more depending on circumstances Study leave... All these are standard....as long as you dont work for DisGuy and sons ltd The koko is getting a job in a country that suits your personality or lifestyle 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 11:40am On May 16, 2020 |
icon8: Honestly she is discouraging me ever since I got this 200k monthly job. She keeps complaing all the time. UK is hard, will you be able to work longer hours. Will u be able to do care jobs, u can't further y studies here, the fees is very expensive but, a friend told me I can collect govt loan to further my studies when I get permanent stay. ( Pls how true is this?) these are all she keeps telling me since she got her permanent residence. She started advicing me to stay put, that she can be visiting for now. I am confused |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by dustydee: 11:43am On May 16, 2020 |
LuvlyIva: DisGuy: I do not know any company in the UK that pays leave allowance but some pay bonus, which is often discretionary. Study leave is not standard. Some employers grant study leave but some do not. For some they give you time off for study but nothing to say it is standard. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 11:44am On May 16, 2020 |
DisGuy:Ok. Thank you. Hmmm bros 13th month is big money for Nigeria. Enough for you and family to spend Xmas well. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 11:54am On May 16, 2020 |
dustydee: Actually thay part was my mistake. Was going to add depending on employer and sector public or private Leave allowance = paid annual leave, no? |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by dustydee: 12:24pm On May 16, 2020 |
DisGuy:No. Leave allowance is an amount you get paid annually for leave outside of your regular salary. It varies from employer to employer. Mine used to pay about 13% of annual salary then. So when you take your leave, you get paid your salary + 13% of your annual salary in that month. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 12:30pm On May 16, 2020 |
LuvlyIva: I noticed that you ignored the rest of my questions, but here you go... If your missus doesn’t want you to join her, the best advice to you would be to stay put and develop your career in Nigeria, while you take turns to visit each other, maybe once every year. I say this for the sake of peace and your marriage. That said, let me share a short story with you. I know someone who was earning about 4 times your monthly salary in Nigeria before deciding to join his family in the UK mid last year. Today, that amount is what he sends to Nigeria as monthly Naira savings, after taking care of his UK bills and reasonable amount of savings in Pounds Sterling. Maybe he was just lucky, maybe not. It depends on a lot of factors. By the way, why are you so fixated on further studies? You can undergo series of trainings and certifications to get better and make yourself a lot more employable, without necessarily going back to “school” at a huge cost, which you certainly can’t afford at the moment. You’re even talking about government loan, for what? You don’t even need a University degree to get a good job and earn a decent living in the West. Long story short, you can make it anywhere, even more so in the UK, but you need the right support system, including that of your wife, who you’d be moving to join. If she doesn’t want you to join her, please don’t, lest you regret leaving everything behind and throwing away whatever you have right now. You’ll need her 100% support if you make the move, and if you have the slightest hunch she won’t be giving her 101%, stay happy in Naija and enjoy your peace of mind. 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by MamaEEE: 12:42pm On May 16, 2020 |
LuvlyIva: If she started telling to stay back bcs she recently got her PR, then something most be wrong. Just Maybe she no longer want you around BCS I see no reason for her to tell u to stay back y she comes visiting, for God sake you u guys r not dating. How does she expect the marriage to work that way. When single folks are trying to pull there partner over . Then as regards ur ? If u should move over or not BCS of 13th month pay. Life is not all abt money alone, think abt the future of your kids. Ask your self is Nigeria going to get better the answer is NO, were you moving to are there room for improvement YES... with the 200k u r recieving now with no security and basic infrastructure for u I need not mensure the rest... Now that you have the opportunity make use of it... except madam no want u around ooo . 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 1:46pm On May 16, 2020 |
icon8: Thank you for your response but, I did not ignore y questions. I summarised all the questions u asked. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LuvlyIva(m): 1:49pm On May 16, 2020 |
MamaEEE: Thank you for your response. I will keep persuading her. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 1:56pm On May 16, 2020 |
dustydee: Thanks for that. Leave must be taken at once? |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by dustydee: 2:25pm On May 16, 2020 |
DisGuy:No. In my organisation then, I know some people that request for theirs at the beginning of the year to take care of other commitments. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by mamacajah: 4:13pm On May 16, 2020 |
LuvlyIva: Oh really? Please enlighten me..which state did it or federal government handouts, apart from the northern states where they gave cash handouts initially and couldn't follow up..? mind you, food stuff is different from money.. in Lagos, for example, most of the food items were given by individuals and not fed. govt... I don't know of other states, so maybe you can enlighten me on that as well and you said 200k is plenty money here.. well, it depends on where you live in Nigeria... in Lagos, that money is not much..by the time you pay house rent sef for one room self contained, how much is left? if it is in other states apart from Lagos, Port Harcourt and Abuja.. maybe like Kogi, Ondo, etc where the cost of living is minimal, then yes, that amount is big... and nowadays which job and company is permanent and dependable.. even the oil sectors have been laying off staff in recent years because of fall in oil prices and banking sector too has suffered..the ripple effect extended to real estate sector, where people are unable to buy houses as much as they did in the past..even to get mortgage is now a problem.. the investment areas of stock market, mutual funds etc have all dropped in value with low interest.. so tell me how comparable both countries are? Talking of certificate, I thought you had a university degree, isn't that a certificate? I don't understand..I am a bit confused now with your responses.. do you teach? are you ready to learn? have you tried looking for other careers you could fit into that would help you when you join her there? Anyway congrats on your wife getting her papers, it makes things easier... like I said previously, you can go visit her and take time to understand the environment. What your wife has, is what a lot of people are working towads getting, so please utilise it wella... 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by missjekyll: 4:18pm On May 16, 2020 |
icon8: Anybody making 800k in Nigeria must be very highly skilled. I m not surprised he is making even more in the UK. Poster are you very highly skilled? I see you talking about working without certificate? and going to school at the same time. You must be married for 10 years to a citizen to become a citizen. only citizens can access loans. So,in effect and I stand to be corrected, you will come to the uk ,rent and grocery and transport and entertainment bills will increase, you will go to school putting even further stress on her salary. Please line up a job or have a plan before you leave Nigeria. Money stress can collapse marriages. |
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