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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by phoenix90(m): 7:57pm On May 19, 2020
ThinkFreely:
how can you fuse a eight stranded RNA influenza genome and a plasmodium to get a single stranded RNA coronavirus?

Are you sure you are ok like this?

You shouldn’t resort to insults bro, plasmodium can actually be infected by a virus. A genetically engineered RNA virus can also be fused with potent symptoms capable of keeping the host weakened and introduced during a flu season to enhance propagation. Am not a scientist but my layman understanding of biology knows a thing or two about genetic engineering and gene cultures.
Take a peep... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31887217/
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Nairalandmonika: 7:58pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:



Keep fooling yourself even and be waiting for remsidivir that has has a 70 percent failure rate or a vaccine with a fatal margin of error of 15%. ..it's not someone like me you can fools with these misleading WHO jargons ..I know what Covid is , I know it's not a respiratory virus as we have been mislead to believe but a Virus that alters the viscosity of the blood and by now I understand what it's treatment protocol should look like ..
Below is Vietnam coronavirus stats, they don't use this so called Madagascar herbs.

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Dpharisee: 7:58pm On May 19, 2020
jumper524:
Who else feels there is too much pressure to demarket this herbal drink from Madagascar?

Abeg no get side effect so no harm in trying and hyper trying.

No overdose.

Even YouTube is deleting videos promoting the Madagascan mixture

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by tejpot(m): 7:58pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:
Even though its active ingredient Artemisinin is a known reputable cure for Malaria it is a also a potent and capable anti virus and anticoagulant which is why it is able to stop COVID just like Chloroquine but unlike Chloroquine it is a low toxicity drug with little or no known side effect...Dont allow the Globalist Satanists mislead you that there is no cure to COVID because of their sinister plots ...Infact I just finished having a cup of Artmesia Annual tea before seeing this

Nonsense, invitro model!
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by JBoss25(m): 7:59pm On May 19, 2020
Pleasant01:
as for me, I don't believe in this Madagascar herbal cure. If it is as effective as these people claim they shouldn't have any coronavirus patient left and their recovered patient should be more... only 119 out of 326 confirmed cases
mttchew

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by alezzy13: 7:59pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:



Keep fooling yourself even and be waiting for remsidivir that has has a 70 percent failure rate or a vaccine with a fatal margin of error of 15%. ..it's not someone like me you can fools with these misleading WHO jargons ..I know what Covid is , I know it's not a respiratory virus as we have been mislead to believe but a Virus that alters the viscosity of the blood and by now I understand what it's treatment protocol should look like ..

shocked shocked embarassed

Joke of the century. Such stellar, incandescently glowing ignorance and he's confidently brandishing it.

Chei! Like someone said, we are now battling two viruses: Sars-Cov2 and . . . . .

@all do well to be careful peeps online of claiming 'expert'. For instance all what he said bolded is absolute nonsensical trash.

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by knowhowk: 8:00pm On May 19, 2020
Uptill Now ,WHO ,No one is yet to Tell the World that at least one Person has Died after taking Madagascar Covid Organics .They said it's not safe right , If it's not safe it means it's dangerous and must have been Killing People or must have Damaged some People's Organs .Till now ,there is nothing like that .Conspiracy Everywhere .
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by nextstep(m): 8:02pm On May 19, 2020
Speculation is not useful. I'm not opposed to herbal solutions, but Madagascar needs to be scientific about its approach in order to be believable.

What we need are repeatable, peer-reviewed experiments showing that the Madagascan Herbal drink has a statistically significant effect on coronavirus. It's not a hard thing. Get 100 patients, give half the drink, the other half placebo, and monitor. Publish methodology and results, so others can repeat your tests. We learned this scientific method in JSS2.

From the data so far, it appears the fatality rate varies from 16% (Belgium and France) to around 6% in (US, Iran, Germany), which supports the theory that age and relative health play a bigger role in ability to survive.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by knowhowk: 8:03pm On May 19, 2020
Uptill Now ,WHO ,No one is yet to Tell the World that at least one Person has Died after taking Madagascar Covid Organics .They said it's not safe right , If it's not safe it means it's dangerous and must have been Killing People or must have Damaged some People's Organs .Till now ,there is nothing like that .Conspiracy Everywhere .This is Logical and Simple .Waiting for WHO Cohorts with Defence .
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by GamalNasser: 8:06pm On May 19, 2020
alezzy13:


shocked shocked embarassed

Joke of the century. Such stellar, incandescently glowing ignorance and he's confidently brandishing it.

Chei! Like someone said, we are now battling two viruses: Sars-Cov2 and . . . . .

@all do well to be careful peeps online of claiming 'expert'. For instance all what he said bolded is absolute nonsensical trash.


Take your low IQ out of here, some thing are beyond your brain grade
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Donwoosky: 8:08pm On May 19, 2020
Prodigee:
As long as it's effective, make we try am. But make our elite dem drink am first grin

This guy no get joy grin
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by OgogoroFreak(m): 8:11pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:



Keep fooling yourself even and be waiting for remsidivir that has has a 70 percent failure rate or a vaccine with a fatal margin of error of 15%. ..it's not someone like me you can fools with these misleading WHO jargons ..I know what Covid is , I know it's not a respiratory virus as we have been mislead to believe but a Virus that alters the viscosity of the blood and by now I understand what it's treatment protocol should look like ..
Do you have a personal lab you carry out your own test?

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by GamalNasser: 8:15pm On May 19, 2020
Nairalandmonika:

Below is Vietnam coronavirus stats, they don't use this so called Madagascar herbs.
I hope you know the origin of the use of Artemesia plant in treating malaria is Vietnam ? Artemisia forms the basis of most Vietnamese local herbal remedies ...You don't expect them to tell your everything

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Greenbirth: 8:17pm On May 19, 2020
greenhulk:


Trial and error has no place here. I'm not criticizing the drug, but clinical trial is essential before a drug can be certified for a while world to use. This is not a case of ur family member is sick and u want to try one agbo on him. We are talking about the whole country here and the whole world too. U can't just recommend something without a clinical trial for people to invest into their system, it doesn't work like that. It is not criticism, it's not the fact that it came from Africa (if it came from the US or China the same approach would be taken). Problem with us here is we just so much believe in miracles mixture. This is why an unknown woman would be Hawking some herbal mixtures and people will buy and gulp into their system without even asking or knowing what kind of mixture they just drank. Once they say it's agbo iba, agbo Jedi, opa eyin, guys will just swallow without even knowing what was mixed.

In case u don't know, US biotech firm Moderna have reported progress in finding a vaccine for the virus. They are currently in phase one of clinical test and results have been positive. But the drugs cannot be certified yet until they go through all necessary clinical tests phases. That is the way it works before u can certify a drug for the whole world to use. Now just imagine if that company is from Africa, after just the first phase of clinical trial yield positive results, u all would be shouting they should approve it that there is no harm in trying.
you tried but that wasn't enough! !! May be you are my brother in NL. Green- Green.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by bjtinz: 8:18pm On May 19, 2020
nextstep:
Speculation is not useful. I'm not opposed to herbal solutions, but Madagascar needs to be scientific about its approach in order to be believable.

What we need are repeatable, peer-reviewed experiments showing that the Madagascan Herbal drink has a statistically significant effect on coronavirus. It's not a hard thing. Get 100 patients, give half the drink, the other half placebo, and monitor. Publish methodology and results, so others can repeat your tests. We learned this scientific method in JSS2.

From the data so far, it appears the fatality rate varies from 16% (Belgium and France) to around 6% in (US, Iran, Germany), which supports the theory that age and relative health play a bigger role in ability to survive.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

Wish I could give this a 1000 likes. I really miss the days of intellectual posts.

Kudos to the other guys here doing their best educating posters.

Thinkfreely
Alezzy13
Nairalandmoniker
Etrange and others.

Una dey try. Am not sure I'll have the patience engaging these stubborn illiterates.

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by osazsky(m): 8:20pm On May 19, 2020
EyezofGod120:
Give them d money dem requested make we try the cure first
just listen to yourself...everyone has recovered cases...so because they have 2 deaths...119 recovered cases and 211 active cases from a total of less than 600 tested...even Nigeria has achieved this without thier herbs if u compare...any Africa country can release what they like .what I know is dat Madagascar is one of the poorest country in Africa and are in need of money..I see scam here..if they are sure of the efficacy let them treat 100 Nigerians with 100 bottles free if it works we can know give them d 76m dollars for all the consignment. This na old format na.guys they run am for ringroad self..it cures everything

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by osazsky(m): 8:23pm On May 19, 2020
nextstep:
Speculation is not useful. I'm not opposed to herbal solutions, but Madagascar needs to be scientific about its approach in order to be believable.

What we need are repeatable, peer-reviewed experiments showing that the Madagascan Herbal drink has a statistically significant effect on coronavirus. It's not a hard thing. Get 100 patients, give half the drink, the other half placebo, and monitor. Publish methodology and results, so others can repeat your tests. We learned this scientific method in JSS2.

From the data so far, it appears the fatality rate varies from 16% (Belgium and France) to around 6% in (US, Iran, Germany), which supports the theory that age and relative health play a bigger role in ability to survive.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
wow I love this but watch out for criticism from almajiris northerners and the conspiracy people they are coming for u...see them be like so WHO bribe Madagascar nor to release the drugs just watch
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by oyewale0001(m): 8:28pm On May 19, 2020
topstone4:


Typical of a yoruba Muslim to act as a slave his northern master. Do you even have any dignity left in your life? You keep on posting these everywhere like a slave desperate to please his master

Oga calm down we are not fighting. You don't even know who you are talking to from Adam. Lol. Remember this is a faceless forum and I believe even with the picture on my profile, if you meet me one on one, you can not utter those words.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by ThinkFreely: 8:29pm On May 19, 2020
phoenix90:


You shouldn’t resort to insults bro, plasmodium can actually be infected by a virus. A genetically engineered RNA virus can also be fused with potent symptoms capable of keeping the host weakened and introduced during a flu season to enhance propagation. Am not a scientist but my layman understanding of biology knows a thing or two about genetic engineering and gene cultures.
Take a peep... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31887217/
listen to yourself again.

So if plasmodium becomes infected by influenza it becomes sarscov 2. Dude that doesn’t make any sense in respect to the size of a plasmodium and a virus, it also doesn’t make sense in respect to the protein specificity and evolution of the influenza spike proteins.
I’m a Biochemist with interest in virology anyways. It’s okay if you ask how these things work before vehemently making a theory out of it.

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by ThinkFreely: 8:30pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:


Well I know how clinical trials work but this is an emergency and the clinical observation is clear ..Keep waiting for clinical trials while Madagascar is saving lives ok
Emergency or no emergency, WHO cannot endorse a drug that has not be proven to be beneficial. It’s not a “try and see” situation.

There’s no evidence Madagascar is saving lives
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Nairalandmonika: 8:31pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:

I hope you know the origin of the use of Artemesia plant in treating malaria is Vietnam ? Artemisia forms the basis of most Vietnamese local herbal remedies ...You don't expect them to tell your everything
They didn't go around shouting they have a cure.
Vietnam never claim they use the herbs in treating anyone. U are not their spoke person, u don't stay in Vietnam.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by 2loadedguy: 8:35pm On May 19, 2020
Sundaycomputer:
I have laptop for sale HP ,
How much and what's the condition
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Fragility6: 8:51pm On May 19, 2020
ThinkFreely:
The world is losing regard for trump.
As a matter of fact, WHO is far more respected than trump who is scientifically illiterate. Go on twitter U.S trends and see how they make fun of him everyday.
Twitter na reality? With d amount of noise PDP made on social media u would think buhari would not gain a second vote but las las who won...Social media no b life N if u are one of those deriving joy to see trump fail den ur joy will always b cut short. Man always proves his critics wrong. Dont worry he will still win d next election so u guys have more years to castigate him
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Ubongdemaga: 9:19pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:
Even though its active ingredient Artemisinin is a known reputable cure for Malaria it is a also a potent and capable anti virus and anticoagulant which is why it is able to stop COVID just like Chloroquine but unlike Chloroquine it is a low toxicity drug with little or no known side effect...Dont allow the Globalist Satanists mislead you that there is no cure to COVID because of their sinister plots ...Infact I just finished having a cup of Artmesia Annual tea before seeing this
wat is the Nigeria local name 4 this leaf . Either in igbo , yourba or calabar

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by pensacola: 9:26pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:
Even though its active ingredient Artemisinin is a known reputable cure for Malaria it is a also a potent and capable anti virus and anticoagulant which is why it is able to stop COVID just like Chloroquine but unlike Chloroquine it is a low toxicity drug with little or no known side effect...Dont allow the Globalist Satanists mislead you that there is no cure to COVID because of their sinister plots ...Infact I just finished having a cup of Artmesia Annual tea before seeing this
Bros, import am to Nigeria.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by toblosky(m): 9:47pm On May 19, 2020
Sundaycomputer:
I have laptop for sale HP ,
How much
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by AlphaT1(m): 10:43pm On May 19, 2020
knowhowk:
Uptill Now ,WHO ,No one is yet to Tell the World that at least one Person has Died after taking Madagascar Covid Organics .They said it's not safe right , If it's not safe it means it's dangerous and must have been Killing People or must have Damaged some People's Organs .Till now ,there is nothing like that .Conspiracy Everywhere .
Drug research is not as simple as you people erroneously paint it to be...it takes average of 10yrs to develop a drug, and still continue to follow up for any unusual reaction...when you talk about the SAFETY of a drug, it doesn't necessarily mean that it must kill someone immediately, there are adverse effects that could manifest several years later....then how about interactions? Can it be used with other medications without problems in the long run? Is it safe in someone with a comorbid condition (e.g high blood pressure plus diabetes)? Is it safe in an asthmatic patient? Is it safe in children? Is it safe in pregnant women? You sure do not want to have the indomethacin experience again. A pregnant woman for instance, may take it and recover, but then give birth to a defective child....this safety profiling takes time and money to come up with and it's not rushed like person wey Lion de pursue for dream.

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by CuteYvonne777: 10:47pm On May 19, 2020
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by witworth(m): 11:29pm On May 19, 2020
If you like say it's cholera or dysentry, Madagascar don do am, Dem don do am, to hell with W.H.O and NCDC, they never thought a good thing can come from Africa. They never thought a country like Madagascar can save the world.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by RuggedSniper: 11:38pm On May 19, 2020
aminulive:
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM

Many Nigerians have jocularly said that the Popular Madagascan organic herbal remedy known as 'COVID Organics' may soon feature on the menu list in restaurants in coming days. This speaks more of its acceptability, particularly by a wide range of people who have clamoured for a home-grown cure for the COVID-19 infection.

It is coming at a time when the country's tally of confirmed cases has exceeded 6,000. The surge does not appear to be stopping anytime soon. The World Health Organisation (WHO) and experts have also opined that it has come to stay.

However, there have been questions on what Africans and the rest of the world are doing to get a vaccine, a drug to properly treat the novel virus. This birthed solidarity trials to hasten the process.

Nothing had sufficed until Madagascar unveiled a herbal remedy recently.

The cure

Africa is home for Nigerians, hence the decision to embrace the Malagasy COVID Organics (CVO), an organic herbal beverage believed to be capable of preventing or curing the virus. The testimony of Madagascar, whether genuine or counterfeit, also contributed to the fuss that came with the launch of the anti-killer-disease cure.

The country, as at the time of the launch, had not recorded any single death with an impressive recovery rate. The president of Madagascar had urged citizens to protect themselves from the novel coronavirus by drinking the organic herbal beverage.

"Let's drink this herbal tea to protect ourselves, to protect our family and our neighbours [...] and there will be no more deaths," Andry Rajoelina said in a speech last Sunday, according to a local daily, L'express de Madagascar.

The East African country also sent out this herbal cure to Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) countries and orders have since been dispatched to several other countries, including Equatorial Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Niger and Tanzania.

Although President Muhammadu Buhari had promised to validate the potency of the herbal cure, some have expressed high hopes that it is the cure the whole world is waiting for.

Nonetheless, when Matshidiso Moeti at the WHO Regional Office for Africa was asked during a press conference whether the WHO had any data or evidence of its efficacy, she said: “No, we do not.”

The composition

The unproven COVID-Organics drink developed by the Malagasy Institute of Applied Research is reportedly made from Artemisia annua (sweet wormwood) and herbs.

Artemisia annua extracts, according to experts, show very little toxicity and artemisinin-based drugs are widely used to treat malaria even in newborns. Nevertheless, scientists around the world are putting the herbal remedy to test.

Researchers at Germany’s Max Planck Institute of Colloids and Interfaces, in Potsdam, are partnering with a U.S. company, ArtemiLife, to test an extract from the plant Artemisia annua to determine its effectiveness in speeding up recovery from the virus.

“We are working with two independent laboratories to ensure the highest possible quality and exclude any bias in the results,” Peter Seeberger, lead researcher, told VOA in an email response.

Also, the World Health Organization (WHO) has said that a herbal drink promoted by the president of Madagascar as a cure for COVID-19 should be tested to see if it is effective.

Fears

Since the active agent in the herbal cure is the cornerstone of so-called artemisinin-based combination therapies, Kevin Marsh of the University of Oxford, who spent decades studying malaria in Kenya, feared that it might cause the malaria parasite to develop resistance.

According to him, the use of artemisinin alone can result in a reduction in the effectiveness of artemisinin for malaria treatment. "We totally depend on artemisinin for malaria in every country of the world, so we are very worried about resistance,” Marsh says—especially in Africa, where 90% of the world’s malaria deaths occur."

To prevent resistance taking hold, most artemisinin-based malaria treatments include a second antimalarial drug, so that if the parasite develops resistance to artemisinin, the other drug will still kill it.

The World Health Organization (WHO) strongly discourages countries from using artemisinin to treat malaria on its own as a “monotherapy,” because it could hasten the development of drug resistance.

SOURCE : https://politicsnigeria.com/analysis-is-the-madagascar-herbal-drink-a-cure-for-malaria-or-coronavirus/

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by MrPRevailer(m): 12:51am On May 20, 2020
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Slynation:
Lol... I don't even knw what to say about this virus anymore, but i don't know why there are too many fuss surrounding the Madagascar herbal drink, even BBC castigated it, there is something WHO ain't telling us...

Because the majority of people don't know BBC, CNN, ABCnews, WHO etc are controlled by global elites such as Bill gates.

Bill Gates is the largest funder of WHO (after America), and ABCnews, BBC are directly affliated to him.

If you want to know what's really going on, then watch the Corbettreport video. And please share with your colleagues and billions of victims of fake news and media censorships deserve to know the Truth.

Last week, Mad. President accused W.H.O of attempted to bribe him a sum of $20million. Nigerian government may have probably embraced that whopping bribe offer to discredit/stop herbal cure.
Bribery is how CHINA became so powerful despite it's total disregard for human rights. it now controls/influences the U.N and E.U.
Watch "China Uncensored" kiss video titled "China and the New World Order". sad To get full details. Sorry if you don't have data though.

Corbettreport. This is Reality in your face.
Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQSYdAX_9JY&t=1239s

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7A_cMpKm6w&t=6s

Part 3

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