Monveronique:





I don't belief a shred of all these battered and misinterpreted scripture. Why don't you guys believe in the Holy Ghost. Why does the JW bible continue to water down the bible. You may be genuine but here's me hoping you find the truth before it's too late!

Monveronique:




Did you do logic in school?

two do you know how you came about?

three. Can you take that as far as possible and tell me what you come up with?

Maximus69:


So you're not as tough as you claim!

Sorry Sir, i'm not here to exchange words with you.

Just know that when it comes to real intelligence, Christianity will bury atheism! Isaiah 54:17

odinson1:

1.no i didn't study philosophy (logic)

2. Well,i was born and not created

And i dont understand your 3rd question

Monveronique:




You tell me?


Wrong! Africa was the cradle of civilisation long before Europeans exported Christianity. Long before Christ was born, Tombs of pharaohs were built with exact specification to the constellations of night sky in order to ease their passage to the heavens. The average man has a measure of God in him and that's the conscience, his spirit that basically sustains him. My God you're shallow.

Monveronique:
Which person's death are you blaming on God?

Maximus69:


Just two to three comments and your ignorance will become obvious!

Spirit ~ Unseen intelligent being, God is a spirit {John 4:24} and all heavenly Creatures (angels) with him! Luke 20:36

Ghost ~ The living dead, humans who formerly lived but at death became unseen beings walking around (this idea is from pagan origin because God's word says the dead don't know anything) Psalms 146:4 ; Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

So the text translated as "Holy Ghost" is wrong Sir. The correct interpretation of that text is "Holy Spirit"!

Further more what exactly do you expect of genuine Christians as you discard what Jesus himself said about how to identify his REAL followers?

Monveronique:



1. It's sufficiently evident.

2. You were born. Fine.


3. Number asks you to go backwards till the beginning of time

Plead:


You’re the dumbest individual I’ve encountered on nairaland.

odinson1:


3. not possible,but if it were,then it would be a good start to prove either the creation story or the big ban theory

Monveronique:




Apparently you are misinformed. People know what happens after death and it is called the afterlife! And the brain is still alive for minutes after death. Read about Near death experience and out of body experience to recondition your thinking. There's is life after death because the soul doesn't die. This plane of existence is only transient at our core, we are energy and energy cannot be destroyed, it only mutates.

whitelotus:



Is that what you think atheists do? Blame death of loved ones on God?

Monveronique:



Of course. You didn't do logic and you're an atheist? Pigs may fly.

odinson1:

By trying to add meaning and purpose to my existence...i dont need any God for that

whitelotus:



I'm replying 3 to 4 people at the same time. You cannot expect me to write so much for each person

1. I'm using your Abrahamic definition of God. Is your God not omnipotent? All powerful? With great power comes great responsiblity and characteristics

2. I pointed out that all those blood money stories are just stories. Where is the video evidence of body parts turning into money? There is never proof for the spiritual

4. Evangelism is a christian word. I do not go from door to door. I am just arguing on the internet and making people aware of my own ideology.

whitelotus:



No one knows what happens after death. Near death experience is not death. People hallucinate at times in such extreme situations. All the christian pastors who claim that they went to heaven and back are all liars because they all tell different stories. The same bible they use says that God is not a god of confusion....so why are pastors telling confused stories?

Energy is converted, yes. But the human body is converted to fertilizer for the soil. A different energy without consciousness.




No comments. If you only swallow your pride and read the many comments of people who has partially died, confirmed dead by doctors and their experience you woudnt be saying this. Let me tell as a survivor of a Near death Experience. When you die, your are aware, you drift upwards, there is consciousness.

There is nothing like the soul. Only your consciousness.

Monveronique:



Do you think the universe is an accident. Do you know that a few inches closer to the earth and the sun will kill off all life in the earth. Do you know that thst interplanetary forces are perfectly poised to support gravity, that microscopic differences will alter. There is no clear proof of a God but the universe is clearly designed. It's too perfect not to be. Do you know about statistical indeterminacy that you can't simultaneously determine the position and momentum of an electron?Do you know if all the empty space in an atom collapsed, all the universe will fit into a grain of sand? Scientists can not account for that they call it dark matter. It shouldn't be possible but it is. Do you think these things are coincidences?

odinson1:


you dont have to study logic in school for you to be an atheist
Everyone has common sense and therefore has the capability to do rational thinking and evaluation
which i did

whitelotus:



The universe is also poorly designed. If there is a creator, he or she must be somewhat reetarded. The universe is filled with vast amounts of empty space while the earth is 70% water. Just imagine that waste.

There is no proof of a god. even if there is a creator, he or she might just be some highly powered alien. See the engineers in the Alien/Prometheus movie franchise.

Monveronique:




Can you point out contradictions in the bible?

whitelotus:



The universe is also poorly designed. If there is a creator, he or she must be somewhat reetarded. The universe is filled with vast amounts of empty space while the earth is 70% water. Just imagine that waste.

There is no proof of a god. even if there is a creator, he or she might just be some highly powered alien. See the engineers in the Alien/Prometheus movie franchise.

whitelotus:



The universe is also poorly designed. If there is a creator, he or she must be somewhat reetarded. The universe is filled with vast amounts of empty space while the earth is 70% water. Just imagine that waste.

There is no proof of a god. even if there is a creator, he or she might just be some highly powered alien. See the engineers in the Alien/Prometheus movie franchise.

whitelotus:



Kindly explain your problem with secular humanism....

whitelotus:



An omniscient God that knows everything that will happen is somehow jealous in the bible.

A God that doesn't change moved from vengeance in the old testament to peace/salvation in the new testament.

A God that is so good but allowed slavery as an institution s

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Monveronique:




I'm sorry Whether you call it holy spirit that's just semantics. There's plenty of Holy Ghost citations in the KJV but that is not the point. Why do guys not believe in the Holy spirit and speaking in tongues, a literal hell?

Maximus69:


It's obvious you're just one of those misinformed churchgoers, so welcome my brothers and sisters coming to knock on your doors with their Bibles for discussion.

Malachi said that's what God's servants will be doing now {Malachi 3:16} and it's the only sign to know the true worshipers of God! Malachi 3:18

I'm not here to teach you, my brothers and sisters in your neighbourhood will do that, if you permit them!

Monveronique:




You don't live in belief? What are you even saying,??

lekbel09:
All the Christian's trying to advise OP are just wasting their time. I have been on this forum for close to 8 years and I have seen how this atheist people are so stubborn and unyielding .

The devil has truly captured the hearts of many people through nairaland.

However, 2timothy vs 2 vs 24-26 is my prayer to them all. Peace

Monveronique:




I actually want to dare you to teach me if you can,? I won't bite. I have to break it to you but those brothers and sisters are headed to doom as with you if you don't recant!