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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 6:58pm On May 23
Maximus69:
@ Whitelotus!

Well it's about the concept of a Supreme Being (God).

Though ATHEISTS claims that humans can achieve PEACE on their own without the idea of God or Gods, but the God of the Bible foretold something really strange!

He said during the time when he is about to judge evildoers on this planet, PEACE will be taken away from the earth, and there will be no human society or group that will unite peacefully without the use of force, weapons or records of casualties to scare them from revolting against their own constituted authorities.

God said that is the time he will prove his power by uniting faithful individuals from different races under one umbrella in his own name, they will settle all their racial differences and bury prejudice so that PEACE will reign amongst them!

None of them will carry weapons for no reason whatsoever because from one extremity of the earth to the other extremity of the earth they will view themselves as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

What really amazes me is what God said that this will be done when no human society is at PEACE! smiley

So he gave them a name that every nation of the earth will hear for a sign that there is no THEORY they can fabricate that will be able to achieve anything close to what they will see amongst his own people!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!



You are not serious!! Jehovah's Witness?

You guys are the worst type of christians to meet. Trust me, I have seen many ridiculous christian denominations but yours takes the cake, along with Mormons.

Please, tell me how you can be a Jehovah Witness with all the failures of your church? let me list the failures;

1. Failed prophecies from your church leaders since 1875. Not one failed prophecy but six failed prophecies!

2. Blood worship! How many times have governments around the world stepped in to save the lives of sick JW members who refused blood transfusions?

3. Cult-like behaviours- members cant fraternise with non-members. disallowing criticism and questioning of the church doctrine among members etc

4. Hypocrisy in joining the UN when the church doctrine does not allow taking part in government

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 7:00pm On May 23
whitelotus:




God cannot be a giver of wisdom. That would be impossible by your own beliefs.

1. You believe that your God is perfect and he is omniscient- he knows all things

2. We as human beings are not perfect and we do not know all things. We know less than 1% of the universe.

3. Therefore, if God were to give us his ultimate wisdom, we would not understand it. It would be too much for our limited brains.

4. Furthermore, even the concept of God is nonsensical to human logic. How can something exist without physical proof?

Welcome back , How was where you went, or what you were busy with. Hope it was successful.

You just choose what you want from my responses

you didn't reply my first statement.

I thought you'd comeback with good points but unfortunately, maybe where you went has taken a toll on your analytical ability for now, you can go through and reply me later. everything you replied shows you are stressed.

can you get wisdom from your earthly Father?

Do you exist? give me a proof.

Also, you assume everything has being searched by this statement but you also know everything hasn't being searched.

you don't know what you belief my friend.

how old are you if I may ask
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 7:03pm On May 23
whitelotus:


God cannot be a giver of wisdom. That would be impossible by your own beliefs.

1. You believe that your God is perfect and he is omniscient- he knows all things

2. We as human beings are not perfect and we do not know all things. We know less than 1% of the universe.

3. Therefore, if God were to give us his ultimate wisdom, we would not understand it. It would be too much for our limited brains.

4. Furthermore, even the concept of God is nonsensical to human logic. How can something exist without physical proof?

Welcome back , How was where you went, or what you were busy with. Hope it was successful.

You just choose what you want from my responses

you didn't reply my first statement.

I thought you'd comeback with good points but unfortunately, maybe where you went has taken a toll on your analytical ability for now, you can go through and reply me later. everything you replied shows you are stressed.

can you get wisdom from your earthly Father?

do aliens exist?

you assume everything has being searched by this statement but you also know everything hasn't being searched.
seems you don't know what you belief my friend.

how old are you if I may ask
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 7:14pm On May 23
Joshthefirst:
As an atheist, how do you make sense of a meaningless and purposeless existence?


Life is intrinsically meaningless. We are but a speck of dust compared to the total size of the universe. We live only to die. Every day we live is an other day closer to death. An asteroid could land on the earth and blow all of us to smithereens tomorrow.


Life lacks meaning. This does not mean that we cannot give our lives meaning. For example, there is a stone in my field- it is useless but i can choose to make it useful- I can choose to use it as a grinding stone or a weapon.

Think of life as a blank slate or chalkboard. It has no words or drawings on it. No meaning. It is our choice to either write on it or leave it blank.
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If you want to know how meaningless life is, just look at your Jesus. He really died for nothing. His torment at the cross did not even yield him followers among the Jews- his own people. Most Jews are not christian. Furthermore, almost 70% of people in the world are not christians. His message did not even move close to half of the world. And the numbers of christians are dwindling. Not only that, christianity has been so perverted today, that many even ask if Christians are truly like Christ.

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As an atheist and a humanist, I try to enjoy my life and make this world a better place because it is the only life I will have with my consciousness. I alone give my life the meaning or purpose that I want it to have.

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 7:20pm On May 23
Kay25:

can you prove that you dropped from no where without your parents?if you can then you are a free individual.until you can tell me you are from Mr nobody then you can exist on your own and proved to be your god yourself.Don get your life mixed up sir/ma whichever title applies to you if you need to know God exist I can ask for the light of it be shed on you if you really want to to know.the void in your life at the moment is the vacumost created by lack of the spirit .you are just as of an animal with a soul when you don't have a spirit.only the spirit can understand the spiritual things and thats the realm of God.God is a spirit.

I know that I am a product of reproduction of the male and female homo-sapien. This would remain true even if I was an orphan that never met my parents.

Spiritual things tend to be useless. There are many successful people who are not religious as well. What truly matters is developing oneself and loving thy neighbour

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 7:27pm On May 23
incogni2o:


Welcome back , How was where you went, or what you were busy with. Hope it was successful.

You just choose what you want from my responses

you didn't reply my first statement.

I thought you'd comeback with good points but unfortunately, maybe where you went has taken a toll on your analytical ability for now, you can go through and reply me later. everything you replied shows you are stressed.

can you get wisdom from your earthly Father?

Do you exist? give me a proof.

Also, you assume everything has being searched by this statement but you also know everything hasn't being searched.

you don't know what you belief my friend.

how old are you if I may ask


I'm old enough to get married. That is all you need to know.

You cannot expect me to address every single issue in your comment. That is a tall order that would see me writing epistles and long chapters.

Man can only learn from the wisdom from others and experience. You did not arrive at God yourself. You were born with a clean slate and your guardians or your friends indoctrinated you with religion.

Wisdom can only be arrived through logic and experience. God cannot give anyone wisdom. God was given to you. God is an abstract idea. An idea not based on any logic.

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 7:28pm On May 23
whitelotus:




You are not serious!! Jehovah's Witness?

You guys are the worst type of christians to meet. Trust me, I have seen many ridiculous christian denominations but yours takes the cake, along with Mormons.

Please, tell me how you can be a Jehovah Witness with all the failures of your church? let me list the failures;

1. Failed prophecies from your church leaders since 1875. Not one failed prophecy but six failed prophecies!

2. Blood worship! How many times have governments around the world stepped in to save the lives of sick JW members who refused blood transfusions?

3. Cult-like behaviours- members cant fraternise with non-members. disallowing criticism and questioning of the church doctrine among members etc

4. Hypocrisy in joining the UN when the church doctrine does not allow taking part in government

(1) Mankind in general has failed in their attempt to make peace, i don't think this is the time to revisit cases of failed prophecies but to resolve this i'll answer you.

Jehovah's Witnesses never at anytime made any prophecy Sir!
Most people can't distinguish between prophecies and interpretations, Jehovah's Witnesses studied Bible prophecies to find out it's timing, NOT prophesying anything new, so it's the timing of the prophecies they missed Sir! smiley
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 7:30pm On May 23
Kay25:

God exist beyond doubts beyond miracles he exist as a spirit that lives within you and around you.can you see the wind?but you know it blows?you can feel it?that's how God is but when you have him within you you can hear him speak as of a person though his holyspirit directly to you even you the atheist he longs to have a word with you I know your state now is even for him to have his way.take your time to listen to your inner voice not your consciousness or sub consciousness move from your head to your soul crave for the longing of the spirit let your spirit man come alive let it find its way down into the realms of God and his glory will overshadow you I am too sure He will speak to you and even you straight to your ears that he exist.My prayer is that in jesus mighty name whatever scales blocking you from accessing the spiritis of God is broken,devils hand taken off,veil tored begin to hear your maker thy husband.amen


There exist no single physical evidence for God. We cannot see him, touch him, taste him, smell him or even measure him. God is an abstract idea fostered on us by parents, family or friends. No one is born believing in God. If you were born in the bush, you would be worshipping either animals or trees or sun.

You say God is the inner voice. Well, there are many criminals who said that an inner voice told them to commit crimes. Is your God a god of madness?

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 7:35pm On May 23
Maximus69:


(1) Mankind in general has failed in their attempt to make peace, i don't think this is the time to revisit cases of failed prophecies but to resolve this i'll answer you.

Jehovah's Witnesses never at anytime made any prophecy Sir!
Most people can't distinguish between prophecies and interpretations, Jehovah's Witnesses studied Bible prophecies to find out it's timing, NOT prophesying anything new, so it's the timing of the prophecies they missed Sir! smiley



It is funny how little you are writing now that I'm putting your church under fire.

So now, you are admitting that your church continuously fails in interpreting bible prophecies?

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 7:40pm On May 23
whitelotus:




You are not serious!! Jehovah's Witness?

You guys are the worst type of christians to meet. Trust me, I have seen many ridiculous christian denominations but yours takes the cake, along with Mormons.

Please, tell me how you can be a Jehovah Witness with all the failures of your church? let me list the failures;

1. Failed prophecies from your church leaders since 1875. Not one failed prophecy but six failed prophecies!

2. Blood worship! How many times have governments around the world stepped in to save the lives of sick JW members who refused blood transfusions?

3. Cult-like behaviours- members cant fraternise with non-members. disallowing criticism and questioning of the church doctrine among members etc

4. Hypocrisy in joining the UN when the church doctrine does not allow taking part in government

(2)With all due respect Sir, i'm highly disappointed in you!

For your information, Blood transfusion is dead issue Sir! cheesy

You can make further research about blood transfusion, i'm telling you now that even medical experts themselves will never opt for blood transfusion because they now know better! cheesy

There are alternative treatments that's 100% safe Sir, don't die in ignorance go and ask medical experts now! cheesy

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Kay25(m): 7:43pm On May 23
whitelotus:



There exist no single physical evidence for God. We cannot see him, touch him, taste him, smell him or even measure him. God is an abstract idea fostered on us by parents, family or friends. No one is born believing in God. If you were born in the bush, you would be worshipping either animals or trees or sun.

You say God is the inner voice. Well, there are many criminals who said that an inner voice told them to commit crimes. Is your God a god of madness?
your existence you is the proof of his physical existence.if you have any attribute as a person ascribe it to the creator .do u still have a parent or you came by a parent? Then from what you see you can tell of the God you can't see
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by odinson1(m): 7:44pm On May 23
let me drop this here
GOD'S MOST IMPORTANT JOB
Do you know what God's most important job was? It wasn't the creation of the universe or the creation of logic or the laws of physics. It wasn't the creation of Earth or even the creation of humans. There was something FAR more important than all these things.
Once God had created sentient beings his most important job was to save them from unnecessary suffering. Perhaps God shouldn't or couldn't save us from ALL suffering. After all, suffering helps us to learn and we may never truly appreciate joy if we never experience pain.
No, I am NOT thinking about the everyday suffering that is a part of living and dying. I am thinking about the unbearable and unending suffering that God imagined, designed and engineered for us to experience after our deaths. God's most important job is to save us from the eternal suffering of hell.
Honestly, that should not be a very demanding job, especially for a God who is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient. It should be a piece of cake. With my extremely limited intellect, I can work out what is required.
Everyone needs to:
1) Hear the story of Jesus.
2) Understand the consequences of not accepting Jesus as their saviour, and,
3) Be given sufficient evidence to be sure both (1) and (2) are true.
How did God go about his most important task? He revealed himself to the small and unsophisticated tribes of Israel. These were his chosen people. God revealed himself by selecting a handful of prophets and speaking to them. He made a deal with them. God would help these tribes if they would agree to follow his laws and worship him (and no other gods). The Israelites were the ONLY people God revealed
himself to.
The writings of the prophets together with the exploits of the Israelites were compiled into a book known are the Torah which was written in the obscure language of Hebrew (now often known as the Old Testament of the Bible). Oddly, no-one mentioned hell in the Torah. It was as if God hadn't thought of it at that time, or hadn't thought about how people could be saved from it.
A thousand years passed and no-one knew of God outside of a small area in the Middle East and no-one knew how to be saved. Finally, God impregnated a virgin who conceived a son. God's son became a preacher and was known as Jesus. Jesus was eventually executed, resurrected and rose to heaven.
The story of Jesus was written in Greek in a series of books by mostly unknown authors. The books were edited, redacted, expanded and changed in thousands of ways over many years. A lot of such books were discarded entirely. Those retained were compiled into a volume known as the New Testament.
Together, the Old and New Testaments formed the Bible.
Finally, the New Testament revealed that most important message--how to be saved from hell. But our problems were not over. The New Testament seemed to give contradictory advice on how to be saved.
So much so, that 2,000 years later there are some 38,000 denominations following the New Testament and one of the differences between denominations is exactly how to be saved.
The New Testament was translated into dozens of languages. This allowed the message to reach more people but also added to confusion as translations introduced their own inconsistencies.
The only evidence available to us that the Jesus story is true and we must be saved is found in the New Testament. The only evidence that God exists is found in the Bible. The Bible is filled with inconsistencies, fanciful stories and immorality so billions of people find it unconvincing as evidence for God. It is easy to read the Bible and see nothing to differentiate it from the scripture of many invented
religions.
So how well did God accomplish his most important job? There are seven billion people in the world.
Fewer than one third of them profess to be Christians. Since only Christians have any hope of being saved (according to the New Testament), at best, more than 70% of us alive today will be tortured for eternity. It could be much more than that, for we cannot be sure what proportion of Christians have done what is necessary to be saved. Perhaps, only say, 10% of Christians will be saved, leaving 97% of humanity to be tortured. No one knows.
Honestly, I could have done a better job than that given just a fraction of God's resources. Almost anyone could have. It is hard to explain God's dreadful and appalling performance at his most important job.
Either, he really WANTS to torture us or the whole story is pure fiction--there is no God and no eternal torture. What do you think?

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 7:47pm On May 23
whitelotus:



It is funny how little you are writing now that I'm putting your church under fire.

So now, you are admitting that your church continuously fails in interpreting bible prophecies?

My friend, what you're trying to do is answer questions.

You've failed woefully to provide a solution to the problem facing humanity.

Even when you spoke with optimism you denied it

Please explain this comment:-
"This is the only Solution"

That's what you said regarding the second option you suggested after you realized your first option is already a failure!

Yet you can't point to any society where your humanism concept have achieved success!

But now that i've presented an organization that has successfully achieved what your humanism concept failed to achieve, you're now looking for excuse to hide your face.

Well that's normal Sir! cheesy
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 7:58pm On May 23
Maximus69:


My friend, what you're trying to do is answer questions.

You've failed woefully to provide a solution to the problem facing humanity.

Even when you spoke with optimism you denied it

Please explain this comment:-
"This is the only Solution"

That's what you said regarding the second option you suggested after you realized your first option is already a failure!

Yet you can't point to any society where your humanism concept have achieved success!

But now that i've presented an organization that has successfully achieved what your humanism concept failed to achieve, you're now looking for excuse to hide your face.

Well that's normal Sir! cheesy


I gave 2 solutions to a difficult problem. The solutions are not perfect. Human beings are not perfect. The world is not perfect.

Humanism is not a system of government, and I have corrected you on it.


Your Jehovah's Witness has never achieved anything other than being recognized as a christian cult.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 8:07pm On May 23
whitelotus:




You are not serious!! Jehovah's Witness?

You guys are the worst type of christians to meet. Trust me, I have seen many ridiculous christian denominations but yours takes the cake, along with Mormons.

Please, tell me how you can be a Jehovah Witness with all the failures of your church? let me list the failures;

1. Failed prophecies from your church leaders since 1875. Not one failed prophecy but six failed prophecies!

2. Blood worship! How many times have governments around the world stepped in to save the lives of sick JW members who refused blood transfusions?

3. Cult-like behaviours- members cant fraternise with non-members. disallowing criticism and questioning of the church doctrine among members etc

4. Hypocrisy in joining the UN when the church doctrine does not allow taking part in government

(3) Cult-like behaviours cheesy

We are discussing about how to solve the problems facing mankind, you can't point to any success with all the system of government ever attempted on this planet!

Now an organization did a perfect job in achieving success excellently.

And all you could say is

Cult-like behaviours cheesy

What is wrong if mankind could find the solution to our problem in Witchcraft? cheesy

I thought you claim to be an atheist, so ATHEISM now agreed with religionists on denying success due to flimsy excuses shey? cheesy

Well it's you atheists that doesn't have rules that all adherents must stick to Sir, we believe in a Supreme Being. So there is punishment for whoever feels he/she can't cope with the rules anymore!

We don't kill them, we don't lock them up in prisons, we don't report them to you people either, we only shun them so they can go back associating with people without strictly rules! cheesy
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 8:10pm On May 23
Maximus69:


(2)With all due respect Sir, i'm highly disappointed in you!

For your information, Blood transfusion is dead issue Sir! cheesy

You can make further research about blood transfusion, i'm telling you now that even medical experts themselves will never opt for blood transfusion because they now know better! cheesy

There are alternative treatments that's 100% safe Sir, don't die in ignorance go and ask medical experts now! cheesy


I know that you cannot be reasoned with on this blood transfusion issue. Even the bible verse you use to support your anti-blood transfusion stance does not actually support it.

I wonder how many lives have been lost due to your stubbornness on blood transfusions. Should i link to news articles?

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 8:10pm On May 23
whitelotus:


1. Your point makes no sense. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, he is not bound by time. He is the past, present and future. He has no momentary lapses- he cannot be jealous because he knows what will happen before it happens. He cannot be surprised because he can see it coming.

2. Stories are not facts. The stories of blood money are just stories. Why arent babalawos and witchdoctors ever rich? With all their knowledge of magic, you would think them to be powerful and rich.

4. I am not looking for disciples. I just want people to be aware. There is truth outside religion

1. it makes no sense cos you lack the comprehensive capacity to understand. God is a personality and the Bible state's we are made in his image. God has the capacity also to Love, Hate, Get Angry, show compasion and feel most of not all emotions we feel as Man.

2. I don't understand. There are no facts that people are being slaughtered in clod blood and dismembered for blood money?

3. what of my no 3 response.


4. Even if you think you aren't looking for disciples, indirectly, you are, and you are also passionate about it. You are an evangelist. And evangelist of what you seem to believe to be good news.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 8:16pm On May 23
Maximus69:


(3) Cult-like behaviours cheesy

We are discussing about how to solve the problems facing mankind, you can't point to any success with all the system of government ever attempted on this planet!

Now an organization did a perfect job in achieving success excellently.

And all you could say is

Cult-like behaviours cheesy

What is wrong if mankind could find the solution to our problem in Witchcraft? cheesy

I thought you claim to be an atheist, so ATHEISM now agreed with religionists on denying success due to flimsy excuses shey? cheesy

Well it's you atheists that doesn't have rules that all adherents must stick to Sir, we believe in a Supreme Being. So there is punishment for whoever feels he/she can't cope with the rules anymore!

We don't kill them, we don't lock them up in prisons, we don't report them to you people either, we only shun them so they can go back associating with people without strictly rules! cheesy


I am not understanding you again. Are you denying that JW is a christian cult?

Can I marry your member? No
Can I enter your kingdom hall and do some investigative journalism? No
Are members allowed to criticise the church? No
Are ex-members exiled from friends and family? Yes

If it walks like a cult and talks like a cult, it is a cult!


Furthermore, atheism is just a theological position on God. It has nothing to do with morality. It is amoral

Humanism on the other hand, has its own ideology on moral framework based on naturalism. Humanism does not promise a perfect world or solution to humanity's problems. It only suggests a logical approach.

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 8:17pm On May 23
whitelotus:



I'm old enough to get married. That is all you need to know.

You cannot expect me to address every single issue in your comment. That is a tall order that would see me writing epistles and long chapters.

Man can only learn from the wisdom from others and experience. You did not arrive at God yourself. You were born with a clean slate and your guardians or your friends indoctrinated you with religion.

Wisdom can only be arrived through logic and experience. God cannot give anyone wisdom. God was given to you. God is an abstract idea. An idea not based on any logic.


You haven't responded to my statement that Logic is relative, what you have to explain God through logic is limited, Scientists still haven't studied higher dimensions and parallel universes and how plausible they are not to talk of the whole universe.

You jumping to that conclusion is a fallacy because you assume you've studied all their is to prove logically that God exists.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 8:18pm On May 23
whitelotus:



I gave 2 solutions to a difficult problem. The solutions are not perfect. Human beings are not perfect. The world is not perfect.

Humanism is not a system of government, and I have corrected you on it.


Your Jehovah's Witness has never achieved anything other than being recognized as a CHRISTIAN CULT.

Helloooooooo! cheesy

LOVE
JOY
PEACE
PATIENCE
GOODNESS
KINDNESS
FAITH
MILDNESS and
SELF-CONTROL

Permeates this organization Sir!

So if your humanism concept isn't working out, i think there is no crime in trying something else, even if it's Satanism as long as it's yielding results Sir! wink
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 8:20pm On May 23
incogni2o:


1. it makes no sense cos you lack the comprehensive capacity to understand. God is a personality and the Bible state's we are made in his image. God has the capacity also to Love, Hate, Get Angry, show compasion and feel most of not all emotions we feel as Man.

2. I don't understand. There are no facts that people are being slaughtered in clod blood and dismembered for blood money?

3. what of my no 3 response.


4. Even if you think you aren't looking for disciples, indirectly, you are, and you are also passionate about it. You are an evangelist. And evangelist of what you seem to believe to be good news.


1. It is you who misunderstands the idea of God. God is an alien. A powerful alien. He would never process emotions the same way humans do. Just as you wouldnt expect a baboon to have the same range of emotions as a human.

2. People can be dismember but there is no magic that turns blood or human parts into money. If they are selling the parts for medical reasons or for a fetish collection, then that is simple trade.

4. Every organisation markets their goods and services. Christians just go the extra mile to call theirs evangelism

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Plead(m): 8:26pm On May 23
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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 8:33pm On May 23
whitelotus:



1. It is you who misunderstands the idea of God. God is an alien. A powerful alien. He would never process emotions the same way humans do. Just as you wouldnt expect a baboon to have the same range of emotions as a human.

2. People can be dismember but there is no magic that turns blood or human parts into money. If they are selling the parts for medical reasons or for a fetish collection, then that is simple trade.

4. Every organisation markets their goods and services. Christians just go the extra mile to call theirs evangelism

1. You now define to me a God you don't know. that's a dead end I wouldn't follow you through.

2. You sent the obvious, so you tell me Human Parts are very good for medical concusions.

4. Thats my point, you are marketing your "goods and service" same way I am a Java evangelist, something I see as good news.

what I notice is that you have some blizzar responses as the basis of your arguments.

My first two points are examples of your wrong conclusions
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 8:36pm On May 23
whitelotus:



I am not understanding you again. Are you denying that JW is a christian cult?

Can I marry your member? No
Can I enter your kingdom hall and do some investigative journalism? No
Are members allowed to criticise the church? No
Are ex-members exiled from friends and family? Yes

If it walks like a cult and talks like a cult, it is a cult!


Furthermore, atheism is just a theological position on God. It has nothing to do with morality. It is amoral

Humanism on the other hand, has its own ideology on moral framework based on naturalism. Humanism does not promise a perfect world or solution to humanity's problems. It only suggests a logical approach.

This is not about PERFECT solution Sir, you had no solution at all! cheesy

So you don't have anything to offer with your so called logical approach Sir!

Forget about the criticism ATHEISM infused in your brains against the concept of God, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have achieved so much with our God and your faculty can never come close to it! cheesy
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 8:42pm On May 23
incogni2o:


1. You now define to me a God you don't know. that's a dead end I wouldn't follow you through.

2. You sent the obvious, so you tell me Human Parts are very good for medical concusions.

4. Thats my point, you are marketing your "goods and service" same way I am a Java evangelist, something I see as good news.

what I notice is that you have some blizzar responses as the basis of your arguments.

My first two points are examples of your wrong conclusions


I'm replying 3 to 4 people at the same time. You cannot expect me to write so much for each person

1. I'm using your Abrahamic definition of God. Is your God not omnipotent? All powerful? With great power comes great responsiblity and characteristics

2. I pointed out that all those blood money stories are just stories. Where is the video evidence of body parts turning into money? There is never proof for the spiritual

4. Evangelism is a christian word. I do not go from door to door. I am just arguing on the internet and making people aware of my own ideology.

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 8:44pm On May 23
Maximus69:


This is not about PERFECT solution Sir, you had no solution at all! cheesy

So you don't have anything to offer with your so called logical approach Sir!

Forget about the criticism ATHEISM infused in your brains against the concept of God, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have achieved so much with our God and your faculty can never come close to it! cheesy


Your cult remains a cult.

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Ghostrye(m): 8:45pm On May 23
Maximus69:


This is not about PERFECT solution Sir, you had no solution at all! cheesy

So you don't have anything to offer with your so called logical approach Sir!

Forget about the criticism ATHEISM infused in your brains against the concept of God, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have achieved so much with our God and your faculty can never come close to it! cheesy
I've been following this topic and sir you are just trying real hard to be stupid, at least you act the part well. The Bros gave you two countries with them working and you are still saying he didn't give you a working solution.
Being religious does not mean you have to hang your brain at the door na, stop making all Christians look stupid

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 8:46pm On May 23
Maximus69:


Helloooooooo! cheesy

LOVE
JOY
PEACE
PATIENCE
GOODNESS
KINDNESS
FAITH
MILDNESS and
SELF-CONTROL

Permeates this organization Sir!

So if your humanism concept isn't working out, i think there is no crime in trying something else, even if it's Satanism as long as it's yielding results Sir! wink


Your organisation that is notorious for abuse, brainwashing and cultish behaviours?

See this Jehovah's Witness. My birthday is coming soon, but I cant invite you grin grin

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 8:49pm On May 23
whitelotus:



Your cult remains a cult.


Cult is not the issue now Sir! cheesy

It's how well the job your humanism concept did, and so far there is none! cheesy
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 8:55pm On May 23
Ghostrye:

I've been following this topic and sir you are just trying real hard to be stupid, at least you act the part well. The Bros gave you two countries with them working and you are still saying he didn't give you a working solution.
Being religious does not mean you have to hang your brain at the door na, stop making all Christians look stupid

Atheists as usual! cheesy

Two countries WORKING on what a group has already achieved 100% success with a different approach! cheesy

My friend, go and sit down.

Your hypocrisy is incurable! cheesy
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 8:58pm On May 23
whitelotus:



Your organisation that is notorious for abuse, brainwashing and cultish behaviours?

See this Jehovah's Witness. My birthday is coming soon, but I cant invite you grin grin

So you're not as tough as you claim! cheesy

Sorry Sir, i'm not here to exchange words with you.

Just know that when it comes to real intelligence, Christianity will bury atheism! Isaiah 54:17
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Ghostrye(m): 9:03pm On May 23
Maximus69:


Atheists as usual! cheesy

Two countries WORKING on what a group has already achieved 100% success with a different approach! cheesy

My friend, go and sit down.

Your hypocrisy is incurable! cheesy
I'm not the OP so I don't want to take away his shine, but if I put up a soapbox and start, you will just have to use your super faith card to back yourself up. But just on hindsight, Google is not that far away from you and it has a better mood than me, so please use it

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