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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by MuttleyLaff: 12:01pm On May 23
Queenkofoworola:
1. how did you become an atheist?
2. If you can't believe in supernatural, how do you explain miracles like SS to AA, hands growing back, and even Juju.
3. If you die, where will you go?
4. How do you survive in the society?
I am Christian and please don't insult me while answering.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 12:02pm On May 23
Queenkofoworola:

1. how did you become an atheist?
2. If you can't believe in supernatural, how do you explain miracles like SS to AA, hands growing back, and even Juju.
3. If you die, where will you go?
4. How do you survive in the society?
I am Christian and please don't insult me while answering.


1. I became an atheist after leaving christianity and studying Islam. I left both religions because they were both complicit in the enslavement of africans. They also had contradictions in there holy books. They also lack any evidence for their God.

2. All miracles are staged magic tricks. No amputee has ever grown his or her limbs back in a church or shrine.

3. If I die, I do not know what happens next. My educated guess is that I will return to nothing. I assume it would be like before I was born.

4. I survive by keeping my beliefs personal. I survive by working hard. God will not just put money into your pocket.

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Lostz(m): 12:06pm On May 23
whitelotus:


I am an atheist and a humanist . I am not your science teacher.
I am done with you
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 12:07pm On May 23
incogni2o:


What premise made you come you your conclusions and beleifs.

Science, Freethinking, or someone's Philosophy?

I bet you the three can't be mutually exclusive .


Freerhinking and science.

Reading the bible and investigating religions. Seeing how humans work and live.

One can draw many facts from these things.

1. The abrahamic religions all support slavery

2. Secular societies grow faster in knowledge and freedom more than religious ones.

3. There exists no physical evidence for God.

4. Religion does not answer any questions about life and death with logic

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 12:08pm On May 23
whitelotus:


I am not defending my faith. I do not have a faith.

Instead, I am curing your lack of knowledge. If you believe that there is no reason for you to understand evolution and the root of common descent of all life, then I feel that there is no much I can do for you.

Science is not a religion. Neither is atheism a religion of science.


You have Faith in a whole lot of things my friend, Logic is not always evidence, indeed Logic can be used to twist beleif cos it doesn't always have all variables that apply to the real conclusions.

Three things you need before coming here to "cure" people.

Knowledge
Wisdom
Understanding

You seem to have a limited but relative greater knowledge so you think you can come here to make disciples, but you are very lacking in the other 2 I'm afraid.

Knowledge and application of that Knowlege 2 Life are two totally different things.

Even Insane men on the streets are sometimes way more knowledgeable.

Wisdom is the Principal thing, It cries in the streets and God is the ultimate giver of Wisdom.

Don't be a fool whitelotus, Only wisdom makes you make right decisions and come to right conclusions, You are currently on the wrong Path.

Stop ignorantly being a tool for the powers of Darkness.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 12:08pm On May 23
whitelotus:



You are mistaken, confused and making category errors. Humanism is not a system of government. It only calls for secularism and reason in creating government policies. Secular humanism is a philosophy.

We human beings will always have problems. There is no perfect system of government. The Covid19 virus showed us that, at least.

I never expressed any optimism. If you read my reply, none of my solutions are perfect. I did mention that it would be difficult to implement a solution within a democracy. Are Rwanda and Malaysia perfect countries?

Let's be honest with each other. Thanks

Well let me commend you for the effort with the humanism concept!

What if i introduce you to a concept that has yielded 100% success regarding PEACE amongst it's subscribers?

You may dislike the idea but it's achieving what no human ideology can ever achieve! smiley

There is a society as in organization formed by humans from all the different races on this planet, they've succeeded in making LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign in their midst to the extent that no matter where they find their members, it's like the person just got home!

I am one of them and i can assure you now that no matter the tribe you may come from, a member of our organization in your village will house me without even knowing me from anywhere, whereas within the same community people living there are scared of the neighbour living next to them! smiley
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Queenkofoworola: 12:09pm On May 23
whitelotus:



1. I became an atheist after leaving christianity and studying Islam. I left both religions because they were both complicit in the enslavement of africans. They also had contradictions in there holy books. They also lack any evidence for their God.

2. All miracles are staged magic tricks. No amputee has ever grown his or her limbs back in a church or shrine.

3. If I die, I do not know what happens next. My educated guess is that I will return to nothing. I assume it would be like before I was born.

4. I survive by keeping my beliefs personal. I survive by working hard. God will not just put money into your pocket.
1. There are no Contradictions. If you really seek more knowledge you will see that there are no Contradictions.

2. But there are miracles that science can't explain.

3. Ok.

4. So if you were asked about your religion, what will you say?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 12:12pm On May 23
Lostz:


I am done with you

Thanks. Dont forget to come back when you have acquired honesty and read more about common descent.

You thought that you were going to wear me down with your never-ending repetive questions to somehow prove that only your god/religion knows how life came about. grin

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 12:17pm On May 23
Queenkofoworola:

1. There are no Contradictions. If you really seek more knowledge you will see that there are no Contradictions.

2. But there are miracles that science can't explain.

3. Ok.

4. So if you were asked about your religion, what will you say?

1. Let me give you a contradiction. If God is omniscient and knows the future, why does he get jealous? The bible says that God is a jealous god. He knows what will happen so why should be be emotional?


2. There are natural things that science cannot explain. Supernatural by definition does not exist.

3. Ok

4. I would say that I am non religious. I dont follow any religion

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 12:17pm On May 23
whitelotus:



Freerhinking and science.

Reading the bible and investigating religions. Seeing how humans work and live.

One can draw many facts from these things.

1. The abrahamic religions all support slavery

2. Secular societies grow faster in knowledge and freedom more than religious ones.

3. There exists no physical evidence for God.

4. Religion does not answer any questions about life and death with logic

1. Biblical slavery isn't wrong, you just put definition of slavery in a box. Go read the bible again, this time, read sincerely to study, not for argument sake.

2. Thats a lie, history doesnt seem to support your assertions, Morality is a very important factor to progress of a society, the societies you call secular, more often have backgrounds related to religion and high moral standards, freethinking and science doesnt have any authority in that aspect.

3. This isnt true either, science hasn't studied all plausible evidence my friend, Lot of studies are rather pointing to the existence of something right? Some call that thing whatever, but in the end. God is the source.

4. That's another fallacy, Living to please God isn't logical? What do you mean by logic then.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 12:18pm On May 23
Maximus69:


Well let me commend you for the effort with the humanism concept!

What if i introduce you to a concept that has yielded 100% success regarding PEACE amongst it's subscribers?

You may dislike the idea but it's achieving what no human ideology can ever achieve! smiley

There is a society as in organization formed by humans from all the different races on this planet, they've succeeded in making LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign in their midst to the extent that no matter where they find their members, it's like the person just got home!

I am one of them and i can assure you now that no matter the tribe you may come from, a member of our organization in your village will house me without even knowing me from anywhere, whereas within the same community people living there are scared of the neighbour living next to them! smiley


What is this organisation of peace? I am interested
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Queenkofoworola: 12:19pm On May 23
whitelotus:


1. Let me give you a contradiction. If God is omniscient and knows the future, why does he get jealous? The bible says that God is a jealous god. He knows what will happen so why should be be emotional?


2. There are natural things that science cannot explain. Supernatural by definition does not exist.

3. Ok

4. I would say that I am non religious. I dont follow any religion
thank you for your answers.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 12:21pm On May 23
Please, I will be back by 6pm to answer any question. I have to attention to some other things.


You can still ask and I will answer all at 6pm

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 12:22pm On May 23
whitelotus:


1. Let me give you a contradiction. If God is omniscient and knows the future, why does he get jealous? The bible says that God is a jealous god. He knows what will happen so why should be be emotional?


2. There are natural things that science cannot explain. Supernatural by definition does not exist.

3. Ok

4. I would say that I am non religious. I dont follow any religion

1. God's jealousy is a momentary(in the current moment) one, it doesn't have to do with the future. Imagine you saying a married Man shouldn't be jealous of his wife's loyalty since he knows the wife would later come back to apologize to him on his death bed.

2. We have being living with stories of blood money, i give that to you as a project to debunk.

4. You are non religious but trying to make disciples or convince others to find Truth right? That's more of what most religions do
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 12:27pm On May 23
Xavfra:




Read your bible very well and you'll see it
....
Even the revelation you just quoted has it.

Why would he send me to hell because I refuse to worship him ....

Simple, because of your evil deeds, relevaltion again

“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Rev 21:8

What's wrong with these if in the world we live, evil people are imprisoned, sometimes killed.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 12:31pm On May 23
@ Whitelotus!
whitelotus:



What is this organisation of peace? I am interested

Well it's about the concept of a Supreme Being (God).

Though ATHEISTS claims that humans can achieve PEACE on their own without the idea of God or Gods, but the God of the Bible foretold something really strange!

He said during the time when he is about to judge evildoers on this planet, PEACE will be taken away from the earth, and there will be no human society or group that will unite peacefully without the use of force, weapons or records of casualties to scare them from revolting against their own constituted authorities.

God said that is the time he will prove his power by uniting faithful individuals from different races under one umbrella in his own name, they will settle all their racial differences and bury prejudice so that PEACE will reign amongst them!

None of them will carry weapons for no reason whatsoever because from one extremity of the earth to the other extremity of the earth they will view themselves as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

What really amazes me is what God said that this will be done when no human society is at PEACE! smiley

So he gave them a name that every nation of the earth will hear for a sign that there is no THEORY they can fabricate that will be able to achieve anything close to what they will see amongst his own people!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 12:34pm On May 23
Xavfra:



Why would they be wrong and a foreign god be right......


I mean the same God, the same human race right?

Why would thiers be right? Or do you think the gods owned adam(i mean the first man) then later shared the races?

Hmm! Asked myself also.

Thankfully you used right, the reason is cos all can't be true, one must be right cos at times most religions contradict each other
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Joshthefirst(m): 1:28pm On May 23
As an atheist, how do you make sense of a meaningless and purposeless existence?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Happycharles(m): 1:40pm On May 23
Waste of thread
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Bodydialect57: 1:52pm On May 23

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Kay25(m): 1:54pm On May 23
whitelotus:


Can you prove that your God exists?

I do not believe in the devil as well. I am a free individual, just like yourself.
can you prove that you dropped from no where without your parents?if you can then you are a free individual.until you can tell me you are from Mr nobody then you can exist on your own and proved to be your god yourself.Don get your life mixed up sir/ma whichever title applies to you if you need to know God exist I can ask for the light of it be shed on you if you really want to to know.the void in your life at the moment is the vacumost created by lack of the spirit .you are just as of an animal with a soul when you don't have a spirit.only the spirit can understand the spiritual things and thats the realm of God.God is a spirit.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Kay25(m): 2:00pm On May 23
whitelotus:


Can you prove that your God exists?

I do not believe in the devil as well. I am a free individual, just like yourself.
God exist beyond doubts beyond miracles he exist as a spirit that lives within you and around you.can you see the wind?but you know it blows?you can feel it?that's how God is but when you have him within you you can hear him speak as of a person though his holyspirit directly to you even you the atheist he longs to have a word with you I know your state now is even for him to have his way.take your time to listen to your inner voice not your consciousness or sub consciousness move from your head to your soul crave for the longing of the spirit let your spirit man come alive let it find its way down into the realms of God and his glory will overshadow you I am too sure He will speak to you and even you straight to your ears that he exist.My prayer is that in jesus mighty name whatever scales blocking you from accessing the spiritis of God is broken,devils hand taken off,veil tored begin to hear your maker thy husband.amen
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Xavfra(m): 4:06pm On May 23
incogni2o:


I mean the same God, the same human race right?

Why would thiers be right? Or do you think the gods owned adam(i mean the first man) then later shared the races?

Hmm! Asked myself also.

Thankfully you used right, the reason is cos all can't be true, one must be right cos at times most religions contradict each other



The Religion of my ancestors appears right
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Xavfra(m): 4:07pm On May 23
incogni2o:


Simple, because of your evil deeds, relevaltion again

“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Rev 21:8

What's wrong with these if in the world we live, evil people are imprisoned, sometimes killed.


What is wrong is that your Christian God is a beast of murder and should be avoided like a plague
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 4:09pm On May 23
Xavfra:



What is wrong is that your Christian God is a beast of murder and should be avoided like a plague

I stop at this point of your unreasonable response.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by incogni2o: 4:10pm On May 23
Xavfra:




The Religion of my ancestors appears right

In terms of absolute, thats what i mean, not what appears right.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Xavfra(m): 4:16pm On May 23
incogni2o:


In terms of absolute, thats what i mean, not what appears right.


I cannot conclude on the Religion of my ancestors because I haven't been able to study it very well....
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by mekaprime: 6:03pm On May 23
Lolz, you've got quite a handful, I'd rather grab my popcorn & sit this one out.

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by DriggityDre: 6:16pm On May 23
mekaprime:
Lolz, you've got quite a handful, I'd rather grab my popcorn & sit this one out.
Aswear.

Some questions here got me weakened already grin
That is, if I am imagining myself in whitelotus' shoes.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Maximus69: 6:34pm On May 23
@ whitelotus undecided
Maximus69:


Well it's about the concept of a Supreme Being (God).

Though ATHEISTS claims that humans can achieve PEACE on their own without the idea of God or Gods, but the God of the Bible foretold something really strange!

He said during the time when he is about to judge evildoers on this planet, PEACE will be taken away from the earth, and there will be no human society or group that will unite peacefully without the use of force, weapons or records of casualties to scare them from revolting against their own constituted authorities.

God said that is the time he will prove his power by uniting faithful individuals from different races under one umbrella in his own name, they will settle all their racial differences and bury prejudice so that PEACE will reign amongst them!

None of them will carry weapons for no reason whatsoever because from one extremity of the earth to the other extremity of the earth they will view themselves as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

What really amazes me is what God said that this will be done when no human society is at PEACE! smiley

So he gave them a name that every nation of the earth will hear for a sign that there is no THEORY they can fabricate that will be able to achieve anything close to what they will see amongst his own people!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 6:44pm On May 23
incogni2o:


You have Faith in a whole lot of things my friend, Logic is not always evidence, indeed Logic can be used to twist beleif cos it doesn't always have all variables that apply to the real conclusions.

Three things you need before coming here to "cure" people.

Knowledge
Wisdom
Understanding

You seem to have a limited but relative greater knowledge so you think you can come here to make disciples, but you are very lacking in the other 2 I'm afraid.

Knowledge and application of that Knowlege 2 Life are two totally different things.

Even Insane men on the streets are sometimes way more knowledgeable.

Wisdom is the Principal thing, It cries in the streets and God is the ultimate giver of Wisdom.

Don't be a fool whitelotus, Only wisdom makes you make right decisions and come to right conclusions, You are currently on the wrong Path.

Stop ignorantly being a tool for the powers of Darkness.



God cannot be a giver of wisdom. That would be impossible by your own beliefs.

1. You believe that your God is perfect and he is omniscient- he knows all things

2. We as human beings are not perfect and we do not know all things. We know less than 1% of the universe.

3. Therefore, if God were to give us his ultimate wisdom, we would not understand it. It would be too much for our limited brains.

4. Furthermore, even the concept of God is nonsensical to human logic. How can something exist without physical proof?

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Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 6:49pm On May 23
incogni2o:


1. God's jealousy is a momentary(in the current moment) one, it doesn't have to do with the future. Imagine you saying a married Man shouldn't be jealous of his wife's loyalty since he knows the wife would later come back to apologize to him on his death bed.

2. We have being living with stories of blood money, i give that to you as a project to debunk.

4. You are non religious but trying to make disciples or convince others to find Truth right? That's more of what most religions do



1. Your point makes no sense. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, he is not bound by time. He is the past, present and future. He has no momentary lapses- he cannot be jealous because he knows what will happen before it happens. He cannot be surprised because he can see it coming.

2. Stories are not facts. The stories of blood money are just stories. Why arent babalawos and witchdoctors ever rich? With all their knowledge of magic, you would think them to be powerful and rich.

4. I am not looking for disciples. I just want people to be aware. There is truth outside religion

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