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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Top1gun: 3:47am On May 26, 2020
You are not making sense.
Skales might not have blown but Banky should come out n tell us Skales never made enough sales n show for him to recoup his investment.

The same video you complimented Jude about is the one that I discovered he was a wolf in sheep clothing. Here is why, Cynthia Morgan n her manager begged you for a contract, you claimed was produced by her manager. Good, everyone signed you have Cynthia cars n other incentives, while is also had lots of hit for you to recoup your money though with her excesses.

MayD got no contract even after the hit with Akon n you blindly chose to ignore the fact that MayD was raking in millions in sales only for Jude to then come up with a contract. Now, is that a fair deal ? Who earn all the money from the colabo with Akon was there not suppose to be a deal outlining that in place ? Does that not expose the fraudulent intent of Jude to milk his artist n then possibly enslave them ?

MayD was smart enough to ask for incentives after a colabo that was topping the chat with Akon n our uncle Jude found that condescending after already using him na wa O.

Did Barca test Messi before investing in his health talkless of gifting him a contract with all his health challenges ?! Your Jude exposed himself as a cunning n selfish businessman who isn't ready to gamble on an act unless he the act is already raking in millions into his pocket.

The question now is if that is a good thing n even by my own flawed judgement I will say no but demonizing the act n painting himself 'Jude' a saint is not acceptable. How do we ascertain Cynthia didn't sell enough for Jude to rake his investment ? We all know how many years she was the queen of the dance hall n she reigned for close to 3 years or more.

How much did Jude invest on her that her record sales n airplay alone couldn't foot his investment. Also why blame Cynthia Morgan for being foolish in regards to the contract with Jude n still blame MayD for being smart regarding same contract.

This only exposed your sentiment, I put it to you that you are Igbo n only supporting Jude based on that reason. If this incident occurred with an Igbo at the receiving end like Cynthia Morgan your sentiment will be completely different.


jaxxy:


If u watched Jude’s video, he total opposite of what I thought, maybe cos of his harsh looks people misread him, complete gentleman and good guy. Infact I’m became a jude fan.

He was basically doing and did Father Christmas for MayD and Cynthia.


The problem is artists these days are spoilt rats who don’t understand the business. Even Michael Jackson wasn’t earning money till his record label recouped their investment sadly by then the artist is usually and mosttimes bigger than the record label interns of image and name bt he’s not seeing the money yet cos the label is still seeing almost everything. Then the artist with a bigger image than his record label who now look like a bondage to him fights back to have his freedom and make his money. This is always the case. Since Jackson five and michael Jackson days. Lol

I think the contracts shud be written differently to accommodate the quick development of the artist and spread the recouping of the investment over a longer period and not immediately while the artist waits penniless and still broke. This is what Davido does. He makes his artists happy and recoups his money over a longer time contract agreement depending on how the artist blows.

Mind u sm artist don’t blow and dats a bad investment. The label has to admit its failure and move on. Like banky w and skales that refused to blow. He eventually had to let him go. Do sm + and - tho.



Lawyer.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Vulcan24(m): 4:01am On May 26, 2020
oga everything u wrote there .... does it make sense to you?

so record label pays radio station to play music and push on download sites and u call that a contract ?

if that is what you do in Nigeria, I see why artiste male artiste last for 3months and their female end up servicing oza areas

my brother wat u wrote there is complete vague and illogical business contract.

but am sure that is what is done in Nigeria

record label produce,protect and market your work through channels that are verifiable and that can be measured in terms of return and output, while they sell your album, they handle your personal finances related to your work, not lifestyle or living with them or becoming their stooge.

royalties from your work are stated in the contract and the tenure.

u can be with a record label and still be living poor untill your work produces the right output that will elevate your lifestyle.

what you do here in Nigeria is slave trade and fraud....Yahoo record label. they spend imaginary money on you and claim everything you own is their making.....what does that mean? na bride price?


pls whoever asked u to defend the made artiste slaving upcoming ones is wasting his energy ....we are not all ignorant.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Hangulsaram: 4:23am On May 26, 2020
dominique:
I agree to an extent. The labels have a bit of part to play in an artist's downward spiral

Those record labels spend millions to package an artist and want to recoup their investments in multifolds shortchanging the artists in the process. The artists seeing how much is being made off them will want to break free and make money on their own. It's only after they go solo that they realize that performing and promoting are different ball games. After some time, they start to decline. If only the record labels can make these contract more lucrative, maybe the artists won't have to quit on them before their contract expires
You finally agreed with op naa,
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Carlmax(m): 4:45am On May 26, 2020
Chance the Rapper made it without a music label... Just wanted y'all to know that.
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by azpekuliar: 4:47am On May 26, 2020
ugbanante:
Nice piece. If u can not keep with the terms of contract in showbusiness, just sing for your own pleasure anyway.

and sell your CDs yourself in traffic and filling stations grin cheesy

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by azpekuliar: 4:54am On May 26, 2020
Slynation:
Asin ehh, the way they came for that young mans head called Jude was overwhelming coupled with the fact the admins made mistake of putting $40m instead of #40m....

But anyways welcome to Nigeria where you can become a celebrity/millionaire overnight just by attracting public sympathy...

Everyone has now had the benefit of listening to the 3 sides of the story (Cynthia’s, Joy’s & Jude’s) and my conclusion is that apart from being unprofessional, Cynthia is an ingrate who should not be touched with a 10 feet pole!

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by summerflame(m): 4:56am On May 26, 2020
Beverlyjean:


Investing in an artiste is a huge risk...the artiste could b a one hit wonder, so they try to recoup their money on time incase the artiste fades faster that a shadow nearing nightfall

E.g KOREDE BELLO

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by azpekuliar: 5:01am On May 26, 2020
Michaelsureodds:
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Una don start this nonsense again
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by MilesLamar(m): 6:13am On May 26, 2020
Thank you very much poster for this insightful post, Now we know better

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Exmilitant(m): 6:18am On May 26, 2020
aguizm:
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Senior man your comment don mk me laugh tire. I b ph city based too.
you are welcome
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Angelfrost(m): 6:19am On May 26, 2020
Heistman:
Record label go spend 5# on u .. hoping to realize 5 million....

At some point den go don make 500k over your head but still continue to dey pay u d 2kobo u signed in the deal from day 1 cos of your naivety and desperacy...

If u con para scatter all..


Record label go rush to media say u dey owe Dem 4.5 m....ever wonder why all d hell den dey promise artist wey vex Comot bfr d end of hin contract no dey happen laslas and most times den go settle outside of court

True... Classic Case in point: Brymo and Chocolate City!!!

Tuface should teach these young ones how he outsmarted Kennis Music, and left them early enough without ruffling too many feathers... Then again, he won't!!! He has become part of the 'rot'!!! grin

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Nobody: 6:37am On May 26, 2020
it just like football club, what affect most of the artidte is that thry dont read Terms and condtion, some just sign the deal because they have to and end up blaming the RL if they go broke.

Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Nitric(m): 6:46am On May 26, 2020
gurunlocker:
grin

The thing is most upcoming artists are overly excited when they see a record label is trying to sign them.

They won't even read the contract they are signing thoroughly or use a lawyer which can put them through... They are always too eager because they see it as an avenue to reach the top. It is after they sign the contract they will know the soup they are in.


I just hope the upcoming artists won't be desperate in getting signed and at least go through the contract they are signing so they won't be a Modern slave shocked shocked shocked

Even if an upcoming artist reads the contract 100 times there is no way he's going to decline signing it cos he knows how long he's been walking the streets looking for a sponsor!

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Ishaquine(m): 6:49am On May 26, 2020
Top1gun:
You are not making sense.
Skales might not have blown but Banky should come out n tell us Skales never made enough sales n show for him to recoup his investment.

The same video you complimented Jude about is the one that I discovered he was a wolf in sheep clothing. Here is why, Cynthia Morgan n her manager begged you for a contract, you claimed was produced by her manager. Good, everyone signed you have Cynthia cars n other incentives, while is also had lots of hit for you to recoup your money though with her excesses.

MayD got no contract even after the hit with Akon n you blindly chose to ignore the fact that MayD was raking in millions in sales only for Jude to then come up with a contract. Now, is that a fair deal ? Who earn all the money from the colabo with Akon was there not suppose to be a deal outlining that in place ? Does that not expose the fraudulent intent of Jude to milk his artist n then possibly enslave them ?

MayD was smart enough to ask for incentives after a colabo that was topping the chat with Akon n our uncle Jude found that condescending after already using him na wa O.

Did Barca test Messi before investing in his health talkless of gifting him a contract with all his health challenges ?! Your Jude exposed himself as a cunning n selfish businessman who isn't ready to gamble on an act unless he the act is already raking in millions into his pocket.

The question now is if that is a good thing n even by my own flawed judgement I will say no but demonizing the act n painting himself 'Jude' a saint is not acceptable. How do we ascertain Cynthia didn't sell enough for Jude to rake his investment ? We all know how many years she was the queen of the dance hall n she reigned for close to 3 years or more.

How much did Jude invest on her that her record sales n airplay alone couldn't foot his investment. Also why blame Cynthia Morgan for being foolish in regards to the contract with Jude n still blame MayD for being smart regarding same contract.

This only exposed your sentiment, I put it to you that you are Igbo n only supporting Jude based on that reason. If this incident occurred with an Igbo at the receiving end like Cynthia Morgan your sentiment will be completely different.


Don't mind the dummy. What about Peter Okoye that left ehn.
May D slept in the boys quarter in a single room with the driver and another worker while making hits and he's here saying rubbish. It is business for the record label too if not why would they have signed them.
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by RuddyFusion(m): 6:49am On May 26, 2020
We need a rebuttal...I don't believe this 100% ...you mean to tell me that record labels pay all those sites , streaming sites , radio stations etc ....where is the place of loyalties etc were?

Our music expects Biko rebute this
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Truthbites: 6:52am On May 26, 2020
BiafranBushBoy:


Lol...

It goes to just MTN.

Nobody except MTN, Glo, airtel, makes money from your mb.

I disagree Bruh. My common sense tells me there's a way it has been worked out that the telecoms company ain't the only one who benefit. I will break it down , to watch or download a music track on YouTube is so expensive. If u watch on low quality, high quality or basic. They grab all ur MB so that u buy again. YouTube pays millions to the artists. Where do u think they get the money from, definitely from us, through adverts shown to us and downloads.(our data or WiFi) .the profit formula has been worked out by YouTube, Vevo, Google, the powers that be, etc..the end user pays directly or indirectly my dear, nothing is free
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by thundafire: 6:59am On May 26, 2020
Ask4bigneyo:
Kenny's Music
this destroyed Tubaba
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by hedonistic: 7:00am On May 26, 2020
Heistman:
Record label go spend 5# on u .. hoping to realize 5 million....

At some point den go don make 500k over your head but still continue to dey pay u d 2kobo u signed in the deal from day 1 cos of your naivety and desperacy...

If u con para scatter all..


Record label go rush to media say u dey owe Dem 4.5 m....ever wonder why all d hell den dey promise artist wey vex Comot bfr d end of hin contract no dey happen laslas and most times den go settle outside of court

The way many of you Nigerians are so arrogantly and adamantly ignorant is disgusting. Despite the clear explanation provided by the OP, you still choose to display your foolishness.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by fadar095(m): 7:01am On May 26, 2020
Seriously I don't see any sense in this..... do you know how much does label realise in just a show??
Let's use Kiss Daniel as an example when in he was with G-world wide, his boss do pay him 30k per month
Just imagine someone like kiss Daniel with that kinda salary despite his shows and tours
I just think those record labels should be fair with their dealing and contract
That's one of the major reason I respect YBNL, he's helped some many young artiste
Why will you call yourself a record label boss living a sumptuous life at detriment of your employees...... we all have conscience

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by AK481(m): 7:02am On May 26, 2020
gurunlocker:
grin

The thing is most upcoming artists are overly excited when they see a record label is trying to sign them.

They won't even read the contract they are signing thoroughly or use a lawyer which can put them through... They are always too eager because they see it as an avenue to reach the top. It is after they sign the contract they will know the soup they are in.


I just hope the upcoming artists won't be desperate in getting signed and at least go through the contract they are signing so they won't be a Modern slave shocked shocked shocked

Wether they read or not.

In business you must offset capital before you chop or share gain.
And this record label have accountants who stores and record every receipt and bribe spent to promote an artiste

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Nobody: 7:03am On May 26, 2020
deltaprincess:


Then you don't sign any deal and wait till uour papa gie you money na.

Abi?

Is it Record Labels fault your family can't support your music career?

Or is it that yiu cannot afford a good Lawyer to negotiate a better deal for yourself?

The biggest problem here is greed of artists and ignorance.
lol u ehn,you just talking offpoint trying to form learned, greed and ignorance of artists right? So it's ok for record labels or any other organization to take advantage of your ignorance / cos your family can't afford to support your career ??

chillax ehn ,I hope one day you find yourself in a similar scenario..so u gon understand better cos u can't get what u not part of....
Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by onez: 7:04am On May 26, 2020
Top1gun:
You are not making sense.
Skales might not have blown but Banky should come out n tell us Skales never made enough sales n show for him to recoup his investment.

The same video you complimented Jude about is the one that I discovered he was a wolf in sheep clothing. Here is why, Cynthia Morgan n her manager begged you for a contract, you claimed was produced by her manager. Good, everyone signed you have Cynthia cars n other incentives, while is also had lots of hit for you to recoup your money though with her excesses.

MayD got no contract even after the hit with Akon n you blindly chose to ignore the fact that MayD was raking in millions in sales only for Jude to then come up with a contract. Now, is that a fair deal ? Who earn all the money from the colabo with Akon was there not suppose to be a deal outlining that in place ? Does that not expose the fraudulent intent of Jude to milk his artist n then possibly enslave them ?

MayD was smart enough to ask for incentives after a colabo that was topping the chat with Akon n our uncle Jude found that condescending after already using him na wa O.

Did Barca test Messi before investing in his health talkless of gifting him a contract with all his health challenges ?! Your Jude exposed himself as a cunning n selfish businessman who isn't ready to gamble on an act unless he the act is already raking in millions into his pocket.

The question now is if that is a good thing n even by my own flawed judgement I will say no but demonizing the act n painting himself 'Jude' a saint is not acceptable. How do we ascertain Cynthia didn't sell enough for Jude to rake his investment ? We all know how many years she was the queen of the dance hall n she reigned for close to 3 years or more.

How much did Jude invest on her that her record sales n airplay alone couldn't foot his investment. Also why blame Cynthia Morgan for being foolish in regards to the contract with Jude n still blame MayD for being smart regarding same contract.

This only exposed your sentiment, I put it to you that you are Igbo n only supporting Jude based on that reason. If this incident occurred with an Igbo at the receiving end like Cynthia Morgan your sentiment will be completely different.


Who got that collabo with Akon for May D?. Somebody did.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by InvertedHammer: 7:07am On May 26, 2020
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The money given to the artistes are advance loans. Some will go on spending spree to buy cars and jewelries. Record label must recover the money before the artistes get paid. The problem is that the artistes are looking at numbers without considering the process that gave out such numbers. It is an industry. It is a business. It is worse in USA where there is a litany of one hit wonders.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by InvertedHammer: 7:09am On May 26, 2020
onez:
Who got that collabo with Akon for May D?. Somebody did.
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They thought Akon just showed up and did collabo with May D free of charge. A verse in a song can go up to $50k depending on the artiste.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Emmerlee(m): 7:10am On May 26, 2020
Shaprara:
.

Alot of record label owners are frauds, they find upcoming artiste, give them a contract with no counsel involved, with heaven and earth promises, they naive ones sign, then the record label owners take them around to take money in from investors, the record label owners cashes out and live the artiste hanging with no promotion, the artiste is left to fend for him or herself.

You people and your emotions.. It's hard to deal with people who are never factual. How can you say the record label give them contract and then say they leave them hanging again? What then is in the contract that was signed? Do you guys even understand what a contract is? Have you asked if the artists are even consulting a legal counsel before appending their signatures? Are they made to sign at gun point?

You people should please remove your heads from your arses. angry.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Nobody: 7:12am On May 26, 2020
hedonistic:


The way many of you Nigerians are so arrogantly and adamantly ignorant is disgusting. Despite the clear explanation provided by the OP, you still choose to display your foolishness.
you're the foolish one here mister and your kind of foolishness is hereditary,I'm sure u got it from papa cool, u came from nowhere barking like a starved homeless dog... So cos someone pen down their opinions about something and u think it's right means everyone should agree as well ?
Get off my mention ,Fucking nitwit

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Truthbites: 7:12am On May 26, 2020
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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Karlifate: 7:14am On May 26, 2020
Lawyer, your article is well explained.

Business is not run based on sentiment. kiss

Before any up-and-coming artist sign any contract, they should involve their lawyer or their manager.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Nobody: 7:16am On May 26, 2020
Nigerian artists should go and learn humility from South Korean musicians.

They are signed in early, trained for years, introduced to the entertainment world and they may become popular with their first hit but they don't normally have a say until their contract expires. They may wish to continue or leave. It's like boy boy in igboland.


When I see our music industry, I shake my head because both the artist and label want to recoup in nano second that's why they produce these things they call music out there. No voice training at all. They don't even learn how to play instruments. Geez. Record companies continue recycling beats. No new innovation. Showing boobs and nyansh, guys puffing off weeds on camera and we call that entertainment cos we want to be like America or follow fella style. This is why they never make it. They are talentless.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Obidiugwu: 7:18am On May 26, 2020
You really made a nice point,nowadays talent is no longer enough but finance but advice to upcoming artiste please next time when signing that contract with any record label involve your lawyer so he can put you through what you are signing for.

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Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by bkool7(m): 7:21am On May 26, 2020
abobote:
While music label have a major role to play in packaging and marketing an artist, if you are good, nothing can bring you down, not even the force of gravity

Lemme add this, if you are that good, and have push yourself to an extent. In this age of social media, record labels will fall over each other to sign you. And the contract won't be a slave one because they know they need you more.

Check the story of how Justin Bieber was signed by Usher Raymond. It was a struggle between Justin Timberlake and Usher to sign Bieber before he later choose Usher.
Bieber had pushed himself, with his mother's effort to an extent on Youtube.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1621324/usher-and-justin-timberlake-battled-it-out-for-justin-bieber/

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