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| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by tempem: 7:26am On May 26, 2020 |
MrBrownJay1:Insightful. You seem not biased.. With points from that guy and you, I really have a complete story.... I think you should create a thread. You have valid points. It can help. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Nairalandmonika: 7:36am On May 26, 2020 |
JessetariahMD:Lol, u still think like this, how old are u. I use to think like this when I was in jss 1 . U use ur money to buy data from the network company, Watin concern record label. Even the website u downloaded the music from nor get any percent. The money u use to buy data ends with the network company and nothing more. The website get their money through advert they do on their website. The website may decide to sell the music or wat ever produce they have to u. In cases like iTunes, where they sell the music, they pay the produce according to the percentage of streaming the music have. But in cases like notjuskok, where the music bis free, the producers probably pay them to promote the music. When the music is popular, they get to go on occasions and concerts, this is were the producers make money. So your small 100naira 10 mb end with mtn n glo. Nobody get chichi from the money, not the website or the producers. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Born2conquer: 7:39am On May 26, 2020 |
JessetariahMD:Lmao� bruh! Nothing! Nobody gets paid |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by jaxxy(m): 7:44am On May 26, 2020 |
Top1gun:I think I left out sm details on Cynthia’s issues which u nicely brought in, Cynthia had a contract and reigned for about 3 years Bt I’m not sure if that was under jude exactly or b4. Let’s assume it was under jude then jude and Cynthia manger who made the contract have to explain if she never made back any money for them or the label. In any case we shud remember this gal had serious attitude problem that alone can spoil her progress, we learnt she wasn’t cooperating and even changing her name while under the label so I don’t know if all this affected her productivity under her label. We needs more clarification and figures. MayD was a nobody bt had talent, u were invested in by way of traveling, meeting people and doing collaborations, if u were partners then we can say ok u deserve Smtn here bt u were a trainee if I can use that word under probation infact. Yes he did nice collabos bt more of features, cos psquare was also part of the Akon collabo not just MayD. Collabos with one artists is usually shared so profits come over time, talkless of collabo with 2 artists and u are the unknown one. It just like how davido gives his young label artist chance to shine. The only difference is davido either doesn’t invest to much on them to blow or recoups his investment over time and not immediately so the artists enjoy his progress also. Most contracts with record labels like a said when Ure big and making no1 hits, the artist is still relatively broke it happened with many top artists until after the labels recouped their investment depending on how enormous it was to make u blow. The contract might be the flaw not the label perhaps. My blame on Cynthia’s contract wasn’t on incentives bt attitude, atleast we heard she got a car, land despite not fulfilling her contract terms and having a sharp fall in progress. MayD yes I support him on incentives bt what incentives is the question. He wanted house in lekki and car for doing what exactly A 3tri collabo?? Of which he didn’t deserve bt was given a chance as a trainee? It showed he had potential and shud have now gotten a contract that shows this potential not a trainee contract bt that doesn’t mean u demand house in lekki, I feel MayD shud have settled the issue with them rather than think he can do it on his own and run out of greed looking at the opportunity and platform they gave u.Artists are not patient to learn and grow they want to sing 2day and blow 2day. This is where tuface was smarter he stayed with Kenny and served them even when he had hits and still broke bt when he left he rose even higher and Kenny had nothing against him, infact they bless him. MayD shud have followed this path or Smtn close. Barca still recouped all their money and more from Messi that’s why he can’t leave to another club all his playing life. Lol Lastly I don’t like the tribal assumptions. It has nothing to do with Igbo’s or anything. I hated jude b4 that video because I had never heard his side of the story on many issues against him that’s all. I got the balance I was looking for. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by ajbf: 7:46am On May 26, 2020 |
fadar095:Then ask their father or their family to invest on them instead. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by ajbf: 7:49am On May 26, 2020 |
InvertedHammer:They have forgotten that it is part of promoting the guy, even though the guy was not having contract with the label. The guy was the highest beneficial of the Akon featuring without a contract. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by supercase1(m): 8:03am On May 26, 2020 |
gurunlocker:Upcoming trash songs about women ass ![]() |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by YINKS89(m): 8:09am On May 26, 2020 |
eLcastro:bro like u said it's business for them hence the reason why there is always a clause on every contract if as an upcoming artiste you signed with a label just like bank they gv you target and if you fail to also meet the target they cut u off.... Apart from DMW have u seen any record label that signed a upcoming artiste and within 2 years they still keep funding it? Let me tell you no coz like u said it's business for them... No time to wait for u to blow if u can't achieve it within a year. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by drLammy(m): 8:10am On May 26, 2020 |
Agreed! I always say this myself... What if at the end of it all the artist no gree blow... imagine all the losses this record label wud av accured over some artist we don't even know about till date.. But I doubt you follow the story cuz May D wasn't even given a contact at all The guy acted smart to negotiate a contract thinking he wud be a ble to stand better alone but Failed and now e dey rant |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by kramer: 8:15am On May 26, 2020 |
lawyer:I hope for your own sake you don't go into gambling otherwise you'll end up destitute. For someone who acts like they know it all you're very presumptuous. You forget that the key thing here is the contract. You don't know what they signed and you have no proof that Jude will win because you don't have sight of the contract, until you do so I would highly recommend you don't gamble your belongings bikonu. Also, just because the contract his tight doesn't mean Jude is a good person. An ethical label will ensure you know what you're signing up for and make the terms clear, and won't prey on your desperation. Whereas an unethical one won't give two shits about you which I suspect Jude falls into based on the blowback we're hearing. You will recall ma$e and pdiddy had a public falling out due over a contract the former signed while he was still very young. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by YemyTemmy: 8:15am On May 26, 2020 |
Jude!! Is that you? So you are on nairaland!!? You are doing well, keep defending yourself |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Mustiboy(m): 8:19am On May 26, 2020 |
JessetariahMD:Lol. You think you're paying them with your data? How dumb can some people be? |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by teezy001: 8:20am On May 26, 2020 |
lawyer:Good job done by you. Kudos, but I think you are citing Western Record Labels structure; may be South Africa. THERE IS NO SINGLE RECORD LABEL IN NIGERIA, no STRUCTURE to do that. Damn! Up and Coming Artistes even have record houses. Lol. I remember when D'banj and Ruggedman went to Abuja to propose how media houses should pay royalties and dues when they sample or play their songs. In Nigeria now, Artistes sign Artistes without proper structure, just junks of legal papers and nonsensical percentage. Those foolish hungry up and coming should read the agreement and terms and conditions attached to their contract before signing it for God sake, instead of shinning one yeye dirty teeth. Record labels are business minded people, no one will like to invest to lose. Let's appreciate internet for YouTube, Apple etc. where anyone can monetize their intellectual properties. Yahoo boys are even Label owners now, they are very extravagant in promoting their artistes and most times it work out but that's not the structure. No artiste should sign 360 contact binding, be creative, versatile, hardworking and flexible. Cynthia and MayD no get excuses for me, they just gave up at the wrong time. NO RECORD LABEL IN NIGERIA. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by kramer: 8:22am On May 26, 2020 |
Trailblazer1:But there's loads of reports of artists signing contracts out of hunger which is just as bad. How many of these artists pulled off the streets would really reject a contract deal? Unless you have several record labels chasing you you'll probably take what you can get. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Yomit71(m): 8:22am On May 26, 2020 |
you mean people like olamide, davido will have to pay all the radio station in Nigeria before they can play their song, it's a lie. some radio station may have to pay them sef for playing their music, that's music plagiarism ![]() |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Nobody: 8:28am On May 26, 2020 |
A lot of our artistes are not even educated so how am I to be surprised they don't understand the terms of their contracts or even bother to? |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Crownfitsme2019(m): 8:35am On May 26, 2020 |
If we put the blame on Cynthia Morgan Is Kiss Daniel at fault with G-Worldwide too? |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by JessetariahMD(m): 8:38am On May 26, 2020 |
Mustiboy:I'm thinking you'll have rights before putting someones song on a site for downloads you'll pay for the rights then me accesing your site you also get paid |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by AK481(m): 8:54am On May 26, 2020 |
PrinzCarter:Be wise ... See what it takes to make money on YouTube. It’s more of awareness to make more money else where See what 360 deal means ..
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| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by sureteeboy(m): 8:56am On May 26, 2020 |
YINKS89:Yes Boss. My response is just based on the free downloads the guy talked about |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by janzguy: 8:57am On May 26, 2020 |
MrBrownJay1:. I could smell anger from your write-up.. I suspect you are an artiste or maybe you don't totally understand the working of record label and entertainment in Nigeria and you are judging it from the Western perspectives. Everything the op said might not be totally true but it resonates around the current realities in Nigerian entertainment. Entertainment is more complex and complicated here in Nigeria. Unlike in the West were radio stations pay you to play your songs, in Nigeria you actually pay radio stations for your songs to be played. The typical Nigeria artiste sees record deals as a getaway from Poverty. Least we forget record labels are bigger risks than even an average company cos artistes might be a one hit Wonder!! mind you not every talented is bound to stay too long in stardom. Secondly out of 5 artistes in a label only 1 might blow.. What happens to the other 4?? They feed and live under the labels income. Do you know why record labels always win?? It's because artistes are usually greedy and they don't care about what's in the contract, they only want that instant money the label has. They instantly hop on the big life, ride expensive cars, post fancy pics on social media and intimidate their old friends at the expenses of the label. They want all the big things immediately spend more more than they have generated. A record label is like a normal company; you don't earn extravagantly at the expenses of the company regardless of whatever contribution you are bringing into the table. The company has to make more profit for you to live that life. Or have you ever seen a company were the workers live larger at the expense of the company? not even the CEO is allowed to do that!!! |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Nobody: 9:02am On May 26, 2020 |
You make very little sense and your post is very very much unbalanced and one-sided this makes it a bullshit post. No head no tail just some exaggerated nonsense. And to respond to your nonsense, a record label should be blamed if an artist starts going down after signing them. An artist also share some blames here sometimes but most times it's the record label. If you sign an artist and do not release fund to market him/her, how can he/she sell? Now you're already concluding the record labels already done that. What if they didn't do that and that's what caused the problem? Secondly, it's their responsibility to take good care of their artists. They must not buy them expensive gifts when the money hasn't started coming but artistes signed to your label deserve to work under comfortable and conducive conditions and atmosphere. Your post is nonsense. At least, if you want to balance the blames, you should have done that without coming out to put all blames on artistes and completely exonerating the record labels |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Maobichek: 9:07am On May 26, 2020 |
dominique:I must tell you the truth, this post is an eye-opener because most people here in Nairaland are ignorant of this side of the music industry. I got a little understanding of this contract and agreement last week when I called the Barrister who is in charge of my apartment, I explained to him on the negative effect of Covid-19, he sympathize with me but told me that I signed a tenancy agreement and there is nothing he can do about it. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Maobichek: 9:15am On May 26, 2020 |
MajorOvakporaye:. Pls don't shift the goal post ok, no artist was forced to sign and bear in mind that Peter confirmed that he offered Cynthia Morgan opportunity but she rejected it. In music industry, all record labels are not equal, Cynthia Morgan knew that Jude's record label was better than what Peter has. This post will definitely clarify a lot of misconceptions and help upcoming artists, thank you. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Maliqcious: 9:16am On May 26, 2020 |
You too exaggerate 700 radio station what do You mean? How can you pay over a million just to get your song hired.. 1000000*700.. You see why it important not to talk than to talk brainless. If i put my song on 99.9 and people start requesting on raypower do you think raypower won't play it.. I know a lot of people that won't watch or listen to a certain station because they don't play some artist songs. You speak like a novice or someone paid you to talk. Do you know what kennis made off 2baba.. Do you think breachs the contracts at the end the artist or the record. Kizz daniel vs g wordwide. Believe it or not most of the recording companies are to be blamed. Apart from Mavin. Why do you think after an a-list artist leave, the record label is liking to die out? |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Netmuch(m): 9:20am On May 26, 2020 |
Nice illustration bro Mac2016: |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Maobichek: 9:22am On May 26, 2020 |
JessetariahMD:. I appreciate your level of understanding, God bless you. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Maobichek: 9:24am On May 26, 2020 |
Chimaautomobile:He is only being childish and immature. Read and comprehend, he can't. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Halo22: 9:27am On May 26, 2020 |
But wait oooo, so most of these artistes live their lives in shadow. The 70-30 thing, is it that the label will be taking the 70% of the whole money made, while u take 30%? If that is the case, no cause for alarm. I will just write my songs, arrange them and sing. Anytime you bring show as the record label owner, I will attend. There's no need stressing myself. But for Engees to give Mr May d a room in the BQ to share with the driver, nawaoooo. So the guy be no get house before? |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Maobichek: 9:30am On May 26, 2020 |
Shaprara:Do you think that Cynthia Morgan was naive? Peter even confirmed the he made an offer to her but she rejected. Most artists are carried away by the name, size, fame etc of the record label and would not do a thorough job on the contract they sign, God help our artists cos no record label will force you to sign, thank you. |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by Papichulostunne(m): 9:31am On May 26, 2020 |
lawyer:You said it all plus 1.. Deep respect for you mahn.! |
| Re: Why A Record Label Should Never Be Blamed For A Musician's Down Fall by bacilus(m): 9:51am On May 26, 2020 |
abobote:Have you not seen first class graduates with no jobs? |
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A 3tri collabo?? Of which he didn’t deserve bt was given a chance as a trainee? It showed he had potential and shud have now gotten a contract that shows this potential not a trainee contract bt that doesn’t mean u demand house in lekki, I feel MayD shud have settled the issue with them rather than think he can do it on his own and run out of greed looking at the opportunity and platform they gave u.
