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Xmuslim:
Your observations are some of the reasons why I do support atheist most of the times even though I'm agnostic.

Now to the main issue. Those religious people will always find excuse for their gods, so don't bother about them. See below

Muslims go to mekkah to worship their God. But the God do not care about their lives

Stampede
July 2, 1990: A stampede inside a pedestrian tunnel (Al-Ma'aisim tunnel) which led to the deaths of 1,426

May 23, 1994: A stampede killed at least 270 pilgrims at the stoning of the Devil ritual.

April 9, 1998: at least 118 pilgrims were trampled to death and 180 injured in an incident on Jamaraat Bridge.

March 5, 2001: 35 pilgrims were trampled to death in a stampede during the stoning of the Devil ritual.

February 11, 2003: The stoning of the Devil ritual claimed 14 pilgrims' lives.

February 1, 2004: 251 pilgrims were killed and another 244 injured in a stampede during the stoning ritual in Mina.

January 22, 2005: A stampede through the stoning ritual in Mina led to the killing of three pilgrims

January 12, 2006: A stampede during the stoning of the Devil on the last day of the Hajj in Mina killed at least 346 pilgrims and injured at least 289 more.

September 24, 2015: At least 2,236[9] pilgrims were killed during a stampede.

Fires

December 1975: An exploding gas cylinder caused a fire in a tent colony and resulted in the deaths of 200 pilgrims.

April 15, 1997: 343 pilgrims were killed and 1,500 injured in a tent fire.

February 13, 2002: Forty Hajj pilgrims from the UAE died when the bus they were traveling in collided head-on with a truck in Saudi Arabia's Al Ihsa province.

November 1, 2011: Two pilgrims, a wife, and husband, died in a coach fire

Above are just few incidents. But did Muslims stop going to Makkah. Infact, I have been there too before I apostated.

So it's indoctrination. Only few people will be able to break the chain of indoctrination

No reason am, even their mohammed raped his dead cousin.
Married a 7yrs old girl, ordered rape and murder of women and children

Op your display of ignorance is out of this world.
Lemmi run before I get infected.

God is God and God is Good.....

Starz825:
Bros....God is good...how he works you don't understand...I have been quaking for the past 1hour now...as in I can't stop shaking.... seeing this pretty damsel killed...
Don't let out ur anger on God..
..Uwa is resting in the bossom of God


Let me tell you one thing about life...
Ain't judging Uwa or her family but then listen....
Imagine those rapists and killers...go Scot free and later have families of their own....
And one of them is killed mercilessly...people around that time will also say God Is wicked and doesn't exist....(wetin God no go see for human beings hand)
One need to be very prayerful..not be victims of evil circumstances...

Let me tell you a story Abt my uncle who lost his daughter through abortion in 2009...
Before she died she was pregnant nobody knew she didn't tell anyone...she was planning to abort nobody knew in the house..we were living together at that time
..When she died we were still looking for her ... eventually it came out that she lost a lot of blood during the abortion and she died and the nurse that did the shit deposited her dead body in mortuary...mehn...all family members came around we were all crying cursing the nigga that impregnated her and denied it and the nurse who carried out the evil operation after she persuaded her that she can do the job and her close friend shola that initially convinced her that she would survive it that she has been there too(bad friends are evil).....mehn every body dey cry for house...
Months after something came to my mind....
There was a time in the house before the above incidents that myself and one of my elder brother were trying to clean up a wardrobe formerly used by my uncle....we bumped into his old time diary (you know all this diary wey old men and women dey use during their youth days, they write everything that happens to them every single day in that diary)...we saw that he had already instructed Abt two girls in the past during his time in the polytechnic to abort the pregnancy they had for him....
Jeezz...my body come down say what!!...which kind thing be this....that's karma...
So sometimes we don't just understand aw things work...we just go about blaming God but then he is on a revenge mission.....
Let's pray not to be a victim of evil circumstances of the sin that our fore father's might have committed in time past..

Note- ain't judging Uwa and her family members...
God will give her eternal rest in his bossom of which is great peace...
And for the perpetrators, nemesis will surely catch up with them...I am very sure of that...

Whenever I remember the bolded above I will laff and my body go come Down small.. because I have been shaking since

You gave a very useless example bros. What happened to "the sins of the father shall not be meted on his son/daughter"? Don't you know you're invariably calling God a liar? So you actually thought it just, that his daughter died because of her father's past sins? You're mention karma nonsense, when it's not the man that was directly affected. You religious folks can make the most outrageous statements

JastSiryin:
You gave a very useless example bros. What happened to "the sins of the father shall not be meted on his son/daughter"? Don't you know you're invariably calling God a liar? So you actually thought it just, that his daughter died because of her father's past sins? You're mention karma nonsense, when it's not the man that was directly affected. You religious folks can make the most outrageous statements

So who is calling God a liar...

The Lord...visits the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation. (Exodus 34:6-7 = Deuteronomy 5:8-10)

And i have already said it earlier that i don't have it in mind to judge Uwa's family...
A lot of the things happening around us are mysteries only God can explain....
So let's leave it that way...
May God continue to give her family the fortitude to bear her loss...
It's crazy ... infact I dey get headache... because I just deleted her post from my WhatsApp status...

Will you shut up! if you dont have anything meaning to say.dont erode the blessed memory of the poor soul with your bitterness, frustuation and hatred for God.God is sovereign and knows better than we do. hate God all you want. but the foolishness of it all. is that you cant fight God.only a fool says theres no God.

OloshoMan:
You really mean to tell me that there’s a God somewhere watching all of this happen? Watching as one of his daughters was raped in his house? Watching as a 12 year old baby was gang-raped by eleven men? Watching as the whole world burns?

Are you kidding me right now?

There are times when I desperately wish God actually exists. Like, sir, can’t you just do something? Intercede for once. People didn’t dedicate their whole lives to you only for you to fail them this way. Must you always be deadbeat?

Why can't God just do something instead of I'll punish you later. I would've done something to prevent this if I claim to be all powerful and good. God is very useless and incompetent. This is just sad. Very sad and Mad right now.

Nobody deserves to go this way.
Don't come here to say stupid things like God will punish the culprits.
Why didn't he stop it in the first place? Why is God and religion very useless ehh? Why?
If it was up to me I wouldn't exist in the first place. Even as an only son with a lot of inheritance, I'm not even thinking about bringing a child in this world.

This girl was raped and murdered in church

In the house you people built for God

She cried for God to save her while she was being raped, and begged God to intervene while she was being murdered

Don't remove your face! Look at her!

Look at the proof of your Almighty God �

Sorry to say, you be mumu. If I be God I for don slap you on top all this nonsense

RIP to her. And desist from posting her pic over intriguing post like this.

OloshoMan:
You really mean to tell me that there’s a God somewhere watching all of this happen? Watching as one of his daughters was raped in his house? Watching as a 12 year old baby was gang-raped by eleven men? Watching as the whole world burns?

Are you kidding me right now?

There are times when I desperately wish God actually exists. Like, sir, can’t you just do something? Intercede for once. People didn’t dedicate their whole lives to you only for you to fail them this way. Must you always be deadbeat?

Why can't God just do something instead of I'll punish you later. I would've done something to prevent this if I claim to be all powerful and good. God is very useless and incompetent. This is just sad. Very sad and Mad right now.

Nobody deserves to go this way.
Don't come here to say stupid things like God will punish the culprits.
Why didn't he stop it in the first place? Why is God and religion very useless ehh? Why?
If it was up to me I wouldn't exist in the first place. Even as an only son with a lot of inheritance, I'm not even thinking about bringing a child in this world.

This girl was raped and murdered in church

In the house you people built for God

She cried for God to save her while she was being raped, and begged God to intervene while she was being murdered

Don't remove your face! Look at her!

Look at the proof of your Almighty God �

What if what if?


We are saying the rapist generation will suffer for it?

Who know if the deceased father or grand father also raped and killed someone too.. So maybe they have been cursed that their family of the rapist will suffer same fate and now, it fell on their beautiful daughters.


The evil that men do live after then.. Who knows if it is karma at work?


God is great, mighthy... He probably knows better....


Some people are suffering from what their fathers did in the past.... The rapist dt dis will suffer same faith but when it happens, we will feel compassionate for them, unknowningly, the father was the one that raped n killed this recent one..

Life is a mystery


Rest in peace to the deceased..

Lightangel65:
Stop saying it like its the church members(christains) who raped her. This rape and murder case was a revenge, and the person who did it wasn't from the church, she must have hurt him very deeply, cause this isnt a normal rape case, so stop blaming the church mambers

He is not blaming church members, he is blaming God for watching Group Intimacy with his children in his sacred place and most importantly in his face but what he does is that he sat down enjoying and doing nothing about it.

It takes alot of empathy to break free and question an alleged good God.

you want God to intervene yet look at ur moniker name (Oloshoboy).
You are one of the problem of this nation... if you are angry and mad, think of the things u av done and asked ur self if u did be alive till today if God wanted to deal with u...... just like u said, God will take control man.

Xmuslim:
Your observations are some of the reasons why I do support atheist most of the times even though I'm agnostic.

Now to the main issue. Those religious people will always find excuse for their gods, so don't bother about them. See below

Muslims go to mekkah to worship their God. But the God do not care about their lives

Stampede
July 2, 1990: A stampede inside a pedestrian tunnel (Al-Ma'aisim tunnel) which led to the deaths of 1,426

May 23, 1994: A stampede killed at least 270 pilgrims at the stoning of the Devil ritual.

April 9, 1998: at least 118 pilgrims were trampled to death and 180 injured in an incident on Jamaraat Bridge.

March 5, 2001: 35 pilgrims were trampled to death in a stampede during the stoning of the Devil ritual.

February 11, 2003: The stoning of the Devil ritual claimed 14 pilgrims' lives.

February 1, 2004: 251 pilgrims were killed and another 244 injured in a stampede during the stoning ritual in Mina.

January 22, 2005: A stampede through the stoning ritual in Mina led to the killing of three pilgrims

January 12, 2006: A stampede during the stoning of the Devil on the last day of the Hajj in Mina killed at least 346 pilgrims and injured at least 289 more.

September 24, 2015: At least 2,236[9] pilgrims were killed during a stampede.

Fires

December 1975: An exploding gas cylinder caused a fire in a tent colony and resulted in the deaths of 200 pilgrims.

April 15, 1997: 343 pilgrims were killed and 1,500 injured in a tent fire.

February 13, 2002: Forty Hajj pilgrims from the UAE died when the bus they were traveling in collided head-on with a truck in Saudi Arabia's Al Ihsa province.

November 1, 2011: Two pilgrims, a wife, and husband, died in a coach fire

Above are just few incidents. But did Muslims stop going to Makkah. Infact, I have been there too before I apostated.

So it's indoctrination. Only few people will be able to break the chain of indoctrination

Steez69 come and answer this. Why did Allah refuse to save people that visited his house.

Perhaps, it is a good thing for the dead because they will be resurrected with their ihram. They are shaeed. Allah know best. Bla.. Bla.. Bla.

I'm waiting for your reasonable explanation

Starz825:
So who is calling God a liar...

The Lord...visits the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation. (Exodus 34:6-7 = Deuteronomy 5:8-10)

And i have already said it earlier that i don't have it in mind to judge Uwa's family...
A lot of the things happening around us are mysteries only God can explain....
So let's leave it that way...
May God continue to give her family the fortitude to bear her loss...
It's crazy ... infact I dey get headache... because I just deleted her post from my WhatsApp status...

Oga there's nothing mysterious about the reimbursement of sin. Whatever a man sows that shall he reap. Read Job 21:19,and Jer 31:27-29 and tell me if God wasn't alluding to something else.

If u like say there is no God....believe it or not,there is God ooo...


God has really helped me in so many ways.....

Mywd:
If u like say there is no God....believe it or not,there is God ooo...


God has really helped me in so many ways.....

how can you prove it is Good that help you not your proactive thinking,hustle and luck

we have choices whether good or bad to make. those doing bad things know themselves that what they are doing is not good.

if you said there is no God, that is your own palava. There is God and he is the Master and Ruler of the world.

animals won't be punished if they do bad things because they dont have the kind of responsibility given to humans.

because there is prevalence of evil doesn't mean that God does not exist oooo. it means that bad people are becoming more and good people are reducing.

when you die, you will be judged by your actions and will face judgement. those who don't believe, will say death is the final. no it isn't, we will account for all what we do on this earth.

if you like believe in God, if you like don't believe, but you will surely die, or have you seen someone who won't die?

ehen that's the real deal, when you die, you will see the reality!!!

OloshoMan:
You really mean to tell me that there’s a God somewhere watching all of this happen? Watching as one of his daughters was raped in his house? Watching as a 12 year old baby was gang-raped by eleven men? Watching as the whole world burns?

Are you kidding me right now?

There are times when I desperately wish God actually exists. Like, sir, can’t you just do something? Intercede for once. People didn’t dedicate their whole lives to you only for you to fail them this way. Must you always be deadbeat?

Why can't God just do something instead of I'll punish you later. I would've done something to prevent this if I claim to be all powerful and good. God is very useless and incompetent. This is just sad. Very sad and Mad right now.

Nobody deserves to go this way.
Don't come here to say stupid things like God will punish the culprits.
Why didn't he stop it in the first place? Why is God and religion very useless ehh? Why?
If it was up to me I wouldn't exist in the first place. Even as an only son with a lot of inheritance, I'm not even thinking about bringing a child in this world.

This girl was raped and murdered in church

In the house you people built for God

She cried for God to save her while she was being raped, and begged God to intervene while she was being murdered

Don't remove your face! Look at her!

Look at the proof of your Almighty God �

if there are witches, devils and magics. Never doubt the existence of God. I have seen witches, humans turn cats, dogs, snakes but who is behind this activities is the man called the devil:

Read this
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
job1:6-12,19


John 10:10 The devil cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I(Jesus) am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
john10:10

Pls avoid blasphemy, God is love, the devil is the possessing people with lusts n demons to destroy.

The devil hate humans, and wish they are all destroyed...pls don't be a victim of schism.


No matter what FEAR THIS GOD, He destroys without remedy.

sesameq:
we have choices whether good or bad to make. those doing bad things know themselves that what they are doing is not good.

if you said there is no God, that is your own palava. There is God and he is the Master and Ruler of the world.

animals won't be punished if they do bad things because they dont have the kind of responsibility given to humans.

because there is prevalence of evil doesn't mean that God does not exist oooo. it means that bad people are becoming more and good people are reducing.

when you die, you will be judged by your actions and will face judgement. those who don't believe, will say death is the final. no it isn't, we will account for all what we do on this earth.

if you like believe in God, if you like don't believe, but you will surely die, or have you seen someone who won't die?

ehen that's the real deal, when you die, you will see the reality!!!

YOUR GOD ONLY EXISTS IN THE MINDS OF THE IGNORANT. NO RATIONAL HUMAN BEING TRUST IN ANY GOD ESPECIALLY ONE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN TO EXIST

Job 1-end(KJV) read and get understanding

jorion:
YOUR GOD ONLY EXISTS IN THE MINDS OF THE IGNORANT. NO RATIONAL HUMAN BEING TRUST IN ANY GOD ESPECIALLY ONE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN TO EXIST

Do you know why things happen the way it happens?

Bigmanpickin:
Do you know why things happen the way it happens?

Let me guess!! God!!!! Am I right? But you will still have to prove that God exist!! And after that, you have to also prove that the God is your God.

This is painful no doubt. But bro, God is not human u dont expect He act like one. His ways are mysterious.

Xmuslim:
Steez69 come and answer this. Why did Allah refuse to save people that visited his house.

Perhaps, it is a good thing for the dead because they will be resurrected with their ihram. They are shaeed. Allah know best. Bla.. Bla.. Bla.

I'm waiting for your reasonable explanation

Bro, you've already answered yourself"reasonably"

steez69:
Bro, you've already answered yourself"reasonably"

To be honest, one would accept those unrealistic excuses provided one hasn't seen the faults in the Qur'an.

This is my most honest answer to you. I never gave up on Islam despite all the criticism until I was able to see that Qur'an does not have any divine origin. Don't take my word for it though. Do your own research

By the way, I went for my hajj after the recent crane crash and stampede (2018). This is because I never noted any error in the Qur'an.

OloshoMan:
God can suck my dick and you too if you don't bite

I pray u don't regret this words later fam

Xmuslim:
We're tired of this theory. If we have our way, we'll overthrown your God. We will do better with the power he's wasting

Lol, wat I will just tell u that what is like a secret to man, God sees it and he knows how to Judge people according to their deeds...and pls watch ur mouth