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| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by safarigirl(op): 3:49pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Plead:Please, post where I wrote ALL NIGERIAN MEN. You see, you refused to read. Go back and read that post, I told you the first time, but because you are either a rapist, or you defend them, your body is scratching you. If you were never part of rapists, you would not be so defensive. Why Are you fighting for something you can not relate to? |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Ishilove: 3:50pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ariza:I am not saying a man cannot be stimulated to have coitus against his will. My point here is your story is gross exaggeration or an outright lie. Technically though, in the court of law a man cannot be raped, just molested. Let's not derail further. You can create a separate thread to treat the issue of male rape. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 3:51pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ariza:.@ bold,that is why we owe that duty to ourselves to train our kids right?denounce such despicable acts.Make laws that are tangible have a good security system, criminal justice system with trained personnels that can carry out investigations and most importantly denounce victim shaming,rape culture and stop being apologist or enablers of rape.Which we are currently failing at addressing. Walking with teaser is a protective measure, the world is what it is, you can't just create awareness or threads and Rant then stop thereNah you have a point but the victims nor be vigilante preventive measures does not stop rape because the victims being raped did not know or plan that they will be raped I should feel safe when I walk out these measures does not end rape we want measures that end rape not by carrying pepperspray.We need to change our orientation teach our men and more importantly take rapist to book this measures curb rape instead. Alright Madam. I'm not downplaying though, but I will keep my reasons to myself until y'all are sober. No vexOkay.However we choose or believe we should treat rape we should all say no to it and play our part. As family,friends,society and government. To curb this menance. It falls on the society to shame rapist and report suspects to relevant authorities and it falls on the state to deliver justice. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
safarigirl:If you weren’t referring to all Nigerian men then the title of your thread should’ve been this way “Some/most Nigerian men should call themselves to order”. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Ishilove: 3:53pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
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| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ishilove:Say no more. I'd be a fool to discuss this further with YOU, BTW I love your choice of words describing Male Rape.. very fine tuned without meaning much lol... Bye Madam |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 3:53pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Plead:Maybe because some men do it while others keep quiet and justify the act thereby making them enablers and apologist. So yeah don't fault her for saying all men. Although I think it is some but I see where she is coming from. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Nobody: 3:55pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ladyhippolyta88:Exactly. Train your male kids to be responsible just like you teach the female kids. Don’t leave them alone thinking their purpose in life is just to make money. Focus on other areas too. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Ishilove: 3:56pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Twoclans:My sister, it is not ordinary. It just shows the shocking mentality that many of these men have. My skin is crawling. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 3:56pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
safarigirl:I find it amusing that some of them commenting have not bashed or denounce the act but one started reminding us that men get raped like as if you denied that in the first play. They are not sticking to the topic but want to go defensive.Nawa |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by safarigirl(op): 3:58pm On Jun 01, 2020*. Modified: 8:13pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ariza:The root is not male rape I actually did not read your initial post. So, this was it? All the women that have been raped, how many have raped men? If the root is male rape, it must be men raping men then, so, the root is still men. Is it not? 1 in 4 girls have been sexually molested as children 1 in 10 boys have been sexually molested as girls. If it was women molesting boys, shouldn't there be more boys being molested, on the average? Considering, more women have been raped, according to statistics? You are still trying to shift blame. You cannot blame being molested, formolesting. This is the same line R-Kelly used, but he was not thee only child in his family that was molested. You cannot keep passing the blame. A person committed an atrocity, so, they must commit it with someone else. Should you not be more empathetic, to not do to others, what has been done to you? If someone steals from you, do you steal from others. What cycle are you promoting here? Turning aggressors to victims. So, whose fault is it? The person who molested the men was also molested, and the person who molested them, was also molested At what point is there accountability? |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by LedRock: 4:24pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ebenezer2O2O:They won't ban her, they only ban male accounts. Dominique is their cheerleader and she supports everything they do. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by LedRock: 4:27pm On Jun 01, 2020*. Modified: 10:48pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
safarigirl:Do you know why molested boys molest others? Because they never got justice, so they think the society accepts such a crime. All females need to repent from raping young boys, almost all young boys have been raped by adult women, too many paedophile women. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by safarigirl(op): 4:34pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
LedRock:You are still not being sensible. I told you that over a thousand rape cases gave occurred in Nigeria since 1973, and only 65 have been convicted. 65. I am not counting the thousands more that never got reported. Did the molested girls get justice? Why are there not more boys being raped on the average, than the girls? If more girls are raped, then, more boys should have been raped as well. Why are girls more likely to be raped, even when there are less male victims of rape? The girls that never got justice, why didn't they go on to rape men? So, what is your point? You and Ariza, what points do you have with such a line? Why do you think we should have empathy for male perpetrators of rape, but not for their female victims? |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Victornezzar: 4:40pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
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| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by LedRock: 4:41pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
safarigirl:I never said we should not have empathy for the females, Abeg I no fit argue again before you call me rapist ![]() When you're calmer we will discuss, right now you are high. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by safarigirl(op): 4:50pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
LedRock:I'm not high, never been and never will be. We won't discuss, until you educate yourself better. I see a lot of excuses, and not enough accountability. You are passing blame, making assumptions that all the men who rape were raped. Men who rape, do so, because they want to rape. They rape because they can rape and get away with it. That is why most people rape, not because there is an underlying condition. Thank you. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by LedRock: 4:55pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
safarigirl:Ok, madam. You will still rant about the same thing next year, until when emotional cry babies women open their ears to listen, rape will not stop. Keep on acting like you know it all ![]() |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Nobody: 5:12pm On Jun 01, 2020*. Modified: 5:34pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
safarigirl:I ignored your comment earlier because first you didn't read my initial post but you went haywire on it. I thought to myself that engaging you will have no effect but would rather be a lost cause, second reason I allowed you have your opinion/ thread. However I will like to correct a notion you are trying to impose on my submissions so far, which is : presenting the aggressors as victims or having sympathy for perpetrators and not victims. Ma,if you read my posts so far with an open mind, you will realize I never imposed or promote any of the notions above. You simply thought that's what I was doing because you are tensed and kind of sentimental here. But rather I only suggested a sentiment free logical 'possible' explanations for the discourse. I'm not shifting blames or vindicate Rapists, I never did and never will . Rather I presented them as lab rats that can be used to find solutions for the societal problem. If you see this thread as a conference meeting where a group of diplomats are discussing an issue facing them or their community, perhaps it will help you to see things from a clear perspective. Now to your question,which I may only respond to once because I hate repetitions, I'm loosing interest in this thread and I am trying to obey your "open a thread on Male Rape and leave this" request, I will make it brief as well. The two are interwoven. First a molested male child has been psychologically shaped to see sex as a 'do or die thing' and that there is nothing like Consent . It will be only logical if one says such child grow up with such mental frame and acts accordingly. Most times we see things happening and react but we don't realize the factors that contributed to such happening. Most times Rapists are made, they are influenced by on thing or the other. And one of such influence comes from what they were exposed to as children. If the first sexual encounter a Child gets is through Molestation or manipulation then how do you expect such child who grew through it with no one knowing relate to sexual matters.? This goes for Nympos and some women with absurd sexual festish. One is left to wonder how a child whose "No" was shut down will respect anyone's "No when he grows. Two : while some grow with it has a norm, some grow with it has a difilation . These set seek vengeance and result into taking laws into there hands. Some Men still remember the evil done to them while young , evil that can't be shared but they must find a way to let out. October 1st comes to mind. You will agree with me,the effect talking to someone has on people suffering from one difficulty or the other but in situations where problems like rape can't be shared among Males folks,then don't be surprised if it lingers in the heart and bring forth fruits. Lastly,A molested child has been exposed to abusive use of power. Remember when they were young, the Aunties and Maids were older and they used this and their authority it on them. Now when such child grows into a hefty guy with muscles and sees a petite lady, what do you think will be an hinderance? Pity? Lol was he shown pity?Was he taught? Your guess is as good as mine .Thing is, the society is a circleAnd what goes around comes around.Those things we never paid attention to are coming back to hurt us. My opinion on this and I hope this time you will see where I'm coming from. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Mstick: 5:16pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Safarigirl threads like this don't go anywhere on this forum and you should know this by now. the one asking women to go along with pepper spray and try not to get raped I ask you madam what about the babies? Even baby girls in diapers are not even safe, so where do we keep their own pepper spray? Girls being raped by their OWN father's have you seen a story of a boy child raped by their mothers?! I've a son and also a daughter, I am very protective of them both and I've never ever had a live in nanny because I fear for their safety.. Do you know that they're private schools they do NOT hire male teachers? So if you like confront the truth,if you like deflect but you and I know you will feel safer if your daughter and son is in a crowd filled with women than men. Not all men are rapists but it's time for all men to speak against rape. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by safarigirl(op): 5:22pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Mstick:Thank you for reading and understanding. A lot of people that have come on this thread have tried to deflect from the topic, and remove blame from the perpetrators. Thank you for your words of wisdom. As parents, we sub consciously assume our kids are safer with women, and it is for a reason, many would rather ignore. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by safarigirl(op): 5:23pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
LedRock:I may not know everything, but on this topic, I know more than you. Thank you. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by safarigirl(op): 5:24pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ariza:Ok. Whatever you believe, is fine. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by LedRock: 5:36pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
safarigirl:Ok ma'am. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Mstick: 5:42pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
So that means Nigerian women are meant to be the number 1 rapists in the world going by this logic of yours because almost every Nigerian woman who grew up here, lived here and still lives here have been sexually abused. Heck even a Nigerian baby girl isn't safe from her own father,brother and uncles so how come we've not been "pyscologically shaped to see sex as a do or die affair"?! Why are women not taking out their rape experiences out on men?! What you're doing right now it's exactly what white people do when they say all lives matter, no body is saying women don't rape men but check the statistics compared to men. This is just Monday and so far I read over 3 stories of rape committed against young girls, what about the ones being covered up so shame will not be "brought to the family" meanwhile the victims mental health isn't considered still she doesn't go about raping men. If a man is raped as a child how about speaking out and making sure the rapist is jailed or even shamed. Why take it out on a woman that has no part in it? Your post is totally disgusting seriously. This isn't even a thread gender war. No matter what you say after not it's 100% clear you're a rape apologist. Ariza: |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Nobody: 5:59pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Mstick:It is just so draining trying to reason with you lots! See the possible cause and fix it but No you will rather play the victim card and wail online. Until you all stand against rape across all genders you may never achieve a sane society, that's the bitter reality. Look at India, the number of rape cases has been contained, though they have so many of it than Nigerians. The Women stood up and fought against it! They protest and have Women communities that handle Rapists.They either beat up rapists caught themselves or hand them over to the police with close follow. But Nigerian women will rather hide behind keypads and rant! Take action! Stop ranting! Same Nigerian women that will concede with their husbands to cover Rape cases, they will rather shut their mouths up than rise to fight,The only place their voices are heard is on the internet where they aren't known Almost all Nigerian Women have been raped? Lol Interesting! Which statistics did you use to arrive at that? Madam, to me your reasoning is far beyond disgusting! You are illogical and this will be my first any only response to you on this. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by mira4u: 6:10pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ebenezer2O2O: see person. One that's very careful with his words this time courtesy of mira4u. Good I made you you have sense las las ![]() I can see you are very careful this time. Or are you tired of opening Accounts after I made your numerous accounts be banned? Well still watching to see how long twill last because what is in the blood is hard to change. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Mstick: 6:12pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Says the person trying to undermine the rape culture of women in Nigeria. Rape in India has been contained?! I guess the rape statistics in India that says a woman in India is raped every 15 minutes even in 2020 is false because you said so. You come online parroting nonsense, meanwhile the reality on ground is what I would tell you and everyone who say and believe the truth will know. Almost every Nigerian WOMAN has been sexually assaulted thats what I said and truth is it's only an illogical human being like you that would throw tantrums when you couldn't even get the point. NIGERIAN women should fix society? Nigerian Women cover up their husbands? Can you please hide you face madam. In the world over women cover up for their spouses so it's not a Nigerian "women" thing. How do you expect Nigerian women to fix society when we've women like you in that same society?! And it will be fallacy for you to think we only talk online go to court and police station then come back and hang your head in shame. You are so disgusting woman so disgusting, you claim men a raping women because they were raped and I asked you why aren't women who were raped also raping men?! The kids in diapers being raped tell me oh sensible on where they're meant to keep their pepper spray you suggested. Ariza: |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Nobody: 6:12pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Ariza:Be blessed jaree..... You get too much sense..... Your second sentence is a small research I did and it surmounted to what you said ..... Some of these men were raped by older females and they think it's normal to do so....... It's a circle...... I would have told you a small story but I would leave it out .. |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by safarigirl(op): 6:16pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Nigerian Men have sense, don't allow these dense ones on Nairaland, give you a different view.
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| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Nemie: 6:18pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
Everything you have said is brilliant, and for the religious ones who need proof from scripture, in Matthew 5 Vs 28, Jesus says whoever looks at a woman lustfully has committed adultery in his heart. See how the responsibility is on the man to control himself, regardless of what the woman is wearing, or where she is, or what she has done. Men should be responsible! Say no to rape safarigirl: |
| Re: Nigerian Men, Call Yourselves To Order! by Nobody: 6:19pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
BigJoe19:You see, to deal with a problem, start from the root.... Just like a tree...if you like cut it anyhow, if you don't cut it off from the root then you're wasting your time This rape is a cycle |
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very fine tuned without meaning much lol... Bye Madam
see person. One that's very careful with his words this time courtesy of mira4u.