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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:41pm On Jun 05, 2020
komekn:


More prolific in the Bundesliga and playing in a particular type of system. Those attributes do not automatically transfer to Liverpool in a different system and league.

I remember Keita left RB Leipzig after 3/4 very consistent outstanding seasons in the Bundesliga and came to Liverpool with a transfer close to €60 million also with great expectations.

What was the result he is simply not up to scratch after two seasons. And they are looking to offload him.

It should be warning to players that after the big money comes the expectations of performances.

The requirements of each league and team is different as well as the style of play and system. Can the player adapt and thrive the big question.

U are totally wrong about Keita.. His problem isn't performance but injury. he has battles series of injury since he joined but has by no means been a flop..
He has picked up form this season..

I dunno where u get the story that we are looking to offload him,but it's 100% false..the only players we are looking to offload are Lallana,Lovren,Shaqiri and Clyne...

I'm very sure Werner would fit into the team because of his style of play...can't say the same for Chelsea though ...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:44pm On Jun 05, 2020
komekn:


More prolific in the Bundesliga and playing in a particular type of system. Those attributes do not automatically transfer to Liverpool in a different system and league.

I remember Keita left RB Leipzig after 3/4 very consistent outstanding seasons in the Bundesliga and came to Liverpool with a transfer close to €60 million also with great expectations.

What was the result he is simply not up to scratch after two seasons. And they are looking to offload him.

It should be warning to players that after the big money comes the expectations of performances.

The requirements of each league and team is different as well as the style of play and system. Can the player adapt and thrive the big question.


Naby keita is good , but i think he has not done so well for liverpool, but we wont see that easily because the liverpool team have been so good since he arrived

Keita has been playing below average since he joined liverpool, this is not a player bought for 20million but for 60 million, so i will gladly say he has been below average

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:50pm On Jun 05, 2020
komekn:


Why

He will join the que of Batshuayi, Giroud, Pulisic and others.

The Bundesliga is not the EPL being prolific in the Bundesliga does not automatically transfer.

He will have to adapt and prove himself and if not just like Batshuayi with his €50 million transfer of 4 years ago, he can join the bench warmers.

Batshuayi is an average player, i told a chelsea fan but he disagree with me

But he didnt flop at chelsea okay, he wasnt given enough game time and its clear
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 3:55pm On Jun 05, 2020
Joebie:
This is what I propose for Africa
1. Nations League
2. CHAN (players based in Africa. Up to 3 players who can be based outside Africa but have to be making their debut for their nations at the tournament)
3. AFCON every 4 years. (Host countries will have enough time to plan to host at a world standard). We should go back to the time when defending champions had an automatic slot.
4. WAFU can be strictly home based players.

Why should defending champions have an automatic slot? It was removed for a reason...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:03pm On Jun 05, 2020
Newsflash: None of them is Messi. Full stop.

Even Klopp once said, "Unless you are Messi or C.Ronaldo, you got to defend man... You gotta defend."

That should tell you something.


Danielnino00:


I can say it anywhere..
Werner is more prolific than Firmino and will fit very well into our system,but Klopp isn't willing to drop Firmino for him....that should tell u something....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:08pm On Jun 05, 2020
All that "how Klopp does his thing" talk changes at the mention of Messi. That's a fact.


To be frank, Werner would have fit in right at Liverpool 100% but him at Chelsea now. Well, I guess time will tell. But it's clear his presence may mean less game time for Tammy in a 4-3-3 unless Lamps plans to play Werner LW and Tammy CF or play Werner alongside Tammy like Nagelsmann did with him at Leipzig alongside Schick or Poulsen in a 4-2-2-2 (a high variant of 4-4-2).
Meanwhile una no dey tire to dey lose players in the transfer war to Chelsea? Lol... Anyway, despite losing these players to your rivals in the market, at least you guys have a UCL and now an EPL on the way to show for your decisions in the recent transfer windows. grin

Danielnino00:

If you understand how Klopp does his thing,I'm sure u will get what I'm driving at..


I wish Werner all the best at Chelsea...he won't be the first player we will loss to them anyway.. Pulisic and Willian Dy there ..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 4:51pm On Jun 05, 2020
TheGoodJoe:
I just knew Richarlison will not slack. The young man is too focused. See how trim and fit he looks.

What if he is a "science student" cheesy cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:03pm On Jun 05, 2020
Danielnino00:

U are totally wrong about Keita.. His problem isn't performance but injury. he has battles series of injury since he joined but has by no means been a flop..
He has picked up form this season..

I dunno where u get the story that we are looking to offload him,but it's 100% false..the only players we are looking to offload are Lallana,Lovren,Shaqiri and Clyne...

I'm very sure Werner would fit into the team because of his style of play...can't say the same for Chelsea though ...

You are being comedic even your use of the word "WE"

And l am totally wrong that's interesting.

All l will say you are entitled to your opinion and l all l will say is, know what l know.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:11pm On Jun 05, 2020
Joebie:
Why Alampasu?
Doesnt he worth a mention? Okay.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:12pm On Jun 05, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Batshuayi is an average player, i told a chelsea fan but he disagree with me

But he didnt flop at chelsea okay, he wasnt given enough game time and its clear

There is something l have said so many times.

Once you are dealing with top teams in the EPL, TIME is a very scarce commodity.

Particularly as a striker, you absolutely must hit the ground running. NO DELAY or you sit on the bench. He has never been able to get close to the numbers he got when he was in Marseille and Standard Liege.

If he was in a smaller club like Leicester, Everton, Crystal Palace he probably be thier number one or two striker. Because he would have been given time.

He is still a very good player, don't forget if l remember correctly he went Borussia Dortmund and in 10 games scored 7 goals that is not easy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:18pm On Jun 05, 2020
andrewbaba44:
After una go say Na only guardiola dey waste money

Just negodu man united for this list

I won’t speak of psg as I am pointing out the Epl clubs

Las las chelsea Na disgrace ,kepa wey be say na 30 million Madrid wan pay for am but as dem see Chelsea price from no where enter 80 million

Oblak ,Allison and ter Stegen are the only keeper worth such money for now


That Maguire Price still dey shock me. Lol. Lemme not even start calling defenders that cost less but have fulll trophy cabinets.

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:20pm On Jun 05, 2020
tongue
Edopesin:
Nigeria Private club owners led by Ifeanyi Ubah and Kunle Soname want to form a separate league, aside the Nigeria Professional Football League due to the an unfair treatment from the league board, however the winner of the league will get a N100million, twice the winner of the Nigeria Professional Football League.



I don't know how true this is

Its true. Gaining fast recog. But continental qualifications is the crux now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:24pm On Jun 05, 2020
Joebie:
See yeye talk

Six foreign coaches battle for Super Falcons’ job

An NFF official told The Guardian yesterday that two female and four male foreign coaches are currently jostling for the Super Falcons job. The official refused to name the nationalities of the job-seeking foreign coaches.


Another official of the NFF who spoke with The Guardian yesterday hinted that the federation had decided to engage a foreigner for the Super Falcons job, thereby ending speculations that the NFF was considering the duo of Florence Omagbemi and Mercy Akide for the job.

“We are going for a foreign coach for the Super Falcons’ job,” the official said. “We want to avoid a situation whereby a local coach will be holding us to ransom after getting the job. They always have that attitude of showing off their bad characters after getting the job. We don’t have time for that any longer.”



They should give a female biko. Let Mercy Akide assist her. Anyhow.


Imagine the jostling.


That France Cheating is as fresh in my head like yesterday.


But once again, the downgrading of locals.....lets be blunt, its true but also shows the way the system doesnt respect locals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:30pm On Jun 05, 2020
daveP:



That Maguire Price still dey shock me. Lol. Lemme not even start calling defenders that cost less but have fulll trophy cabinets.

grin

lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:31pm On Jun 05, 2020
BascoVanVeli:
Taiwo Awoniyi talking about Liverpool. It gives u confidence in his future



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1i8iT6tCXQ



He is a very straightforward and down to earth young man.

I don't think he will play for Liverpool but he still will have a good career in football.

Last season in the summer when l spoke to him and he told me about the injury. Someone called me essentially a liar at that time, when l mentioned the injury.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:34pm On Jun 05, 2020
komekn:


There is something l have said so many times.

Once you are dealing with top teams in the EPL, TIME is a very scarce commodity.

Particularly as a striker, you absolutely must hit the ground running. NO DELAY or you sit on the bench. He has never been able to get close to the numbers he got when he was in Marseille and Standard Liege.

If he was in a smaller club like Leicester, Everton, Crystal Palace he probably be thier number one or two striker. Because he would have been given time.

He is still a very good player, don't forget if l remember correctly he went Borussia Dortmund and in 10 games scored 7 goals that is not easy.

But he has also scored 5 in 11 games in the epl playing for crystal palace so that should tell you that he is a good player and thats just a little different from his BVB stats, he only did badly at valencia

You dont expect batshuayi to bench diego costa nah, you think if costa is at chelsea tammy will get any game time ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 5:39pm On Jun 05, 2020
komekn:


More prolific in the Bundesliga and playing in a particular type of system. Those attributes do not automatically transfer to Liverpool in a different system and league.

I remember Keita left RB Leipzig after [b]3/4 [/b]very consistent outstanding seasons in the Bundesliga and came to Liverpool with a transfer close to €60 million also with great expectations.

What was the result he is simply not up to scratch after two seasons. And they are looking to offload him.

It should be warning to players that after the big money comes the expectations of performances.

The requirements of each league and team is different as well as the style of play and system. Can the player adapt and thrive the big question.


Two years rather
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:39pm On Jun 05, 2020
Danielnino00:


I can say it anywhere..
Werner is more prolific than Firmino and will fit very well into our system,but Klopp isn't willing to drop Firmino for him....that should tell u something....

Na you be klopp nah

Make werner do well weda firmino no go go bench, being prolific as a striker matters alot
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 5:41pm On Jun 05, 2020
komekn:


Why

He will join the que of Batshuayi, Giroud, Pulisic and others.

The Bundesliga is not the EPL being prolific in the Bundesliga does not automatically transfer.

He will have to adapt and prove himself and if not just like Batshuayi with his €50 million transfer of 4 years ago, he can join the bench warmers.

Werner will not sit on bench for Abraham. He's been tested and proven to be trusted!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:54pm On Jun 05, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Newsflash: None of them is Messi. Full stop.

Even Klopp once said, "Unless you are Messi or C.Ronaldo, you got to defend man... You gotta defend."

That should tell you something.



Leave danny make e continue him joke
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:54pm On Jun 05, 2020
komekn:


You are being comedic even your use of the word "WE"

And l am totally wrong that's interesting.

All l will say you are entitled to your opinion and l all l will say is, know what l know.

Being a long time Liverpool fan,I believe I'm perfectly entitled to use the term "we"...

And you are totally wrong like 100%. Keita problem is injury. Injury has limited his game time,but he has picked form this season. .
And nobody has put him up for sale.. You can call your friend Micheal Edwards to confirm ..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:55pm On Jun 05, 2020
Utonwanne:


Werner will not sit on bench for Abraham. He's been tested and proven to be trusted!

If werner go sit down for bench na for people wey their name be Aguero, lewandowski suarez aubameyang and few others and not players like abraham
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:57pm On Jun 05, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Na you be klopp nah

Make werner do well weda firmino no go go bench, being prolific as a striker matters alot


Firmino does more than scoring goals, and Klopp is totally pleased with him.. He won't bench him for Werner.
If Klopp wanted a goal scoring striker,he won't have sold Benteke...He won't give Salah and Mane that much freedom up front and definitely won't be using Origi as a winger..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:58pm On Jun 05, 2020
Danielnino00:


Firmino does more than scoring goals, and Klopp is totally pleased with him.. He won't bench him for Werner.
If Klopp wanted a goal scoring striker,he won't have sold Benteke...He won't give Salah and Mane that much freedom up front and definitely won't be using Origi as a winger..

Anyway liverpool are not getting him so no need of this arguement

Origi is not good enough to lead that front line as firmino is doing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:04pm On Jun 05, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Anyway liverpool are not getting him so no need of this arguement

Origi is not good enough to lead that front line as firmino is doing.

You just don't understand.. You were talking about Werner being more prolific and I gave you Origi as an example.. Check Origi's goal to game ratio and compare it with Firmino...
Sometimes when Origi plays,he is deployed on the wing...even Salah,Mane and Wijnaldum have been used as false9s ..

It's not just about scoring goals... If you remove Firmino from that lineup,Salah and Mane won't be at the level they are now,I can assure you that...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:17pm On Jun 05, 2020
Danielnino00:


You just don't understand.. You were talking about Werner being more prolific and I gave you Origi as an example.. Check Origi's goal to game ratio and compare it with Firmino...
Sometimes when Origi plays,he is deployed on the wing...even Salah,Mane and Wijnaldum have been used as false9s ..

It's not just about scoring goals... If you remove Firmino from that lineup,Salah and Mane won't be at the level they are now,I can assure you that...

Mane and Salah will still perform and score goals wether or not firminho plays besides most of their goals have come from the wings
He doesn't do anything special in that Liverpool team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:19pm On Jun 05, 2020
Well I had a max of 5 in each position. .
daveP:
Doesnt he worth a mention? Okay.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:31pm On Jun 05, 2020
white man no dey show bad character? that man who said it is a big frog. grin. He himself must have a very bad character

daveP:



They should give a female biko. Let Mercy Akide assist her. Anyhow.


Imagine the jostling.


That France Cheating is as fresh in my head like yesterday.


But once again, the downgrading of locals.....lets be blunt, its true but also shows the way the system doesnt respect locals.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:34pm On Jun 05, 2020
Edopesin:


Mane and Salah will still perform and score goals wether or not firminho plays besides most of their goals have come from the wings
He doesn't do anything special in that Liverpool team

Lol okay o.

We Sha thank God that we have him with us... A striker that drops deep to hustle for the ball... A striker that creates chances (48 big chances created in the premier league), a striker that creates space for the wingers grin ..A striker that can tackle(had over 90 tackles in one EPL campaign) grin

We thank God for giving us Roberto Firmino!
grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:49pm On Jun 05, 2020
Danielnino00:


You just don't understand.. You were talking about Werner being more prolific and I gave you Origi as an example.. Check Origi's goal to game ratio and compare it with Firmino...
Sometimes when Origi plays,he is deployed on the wing...even Salah,Mane and Wijnaldum have been used as false9s ..

It's not just about scoring goals... If you remove Firmino from that lineup,Salah and Mane won't be at the level they are now,I can assure you that...

Alright bro

Got ya
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:59pm On Jun 05, 2020
Danielnino00:


Lol okay o.

We Sha thank God that we have him with us... A striker that drops deep to hustle for the ball... A striker that creates chances (48 big chances created in the premier league), a striker that creates space for the wingers grin ..A striker that can tackle(had over 90 tackles in one EPL campaign) grin

We thank God for giving us Roberto Firmino!
grin

Obviously he his good but he won't start in any of the top 6 teams cheesy

Make una dey calm down with the hype grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:01pm On Jun 05, 2020
Edopesin:


Obviously he his good but he won't start in any of the top 6 teams cheesy

Make una dey calm down with the hype grin

Gabriel Jesus is starting at Man City..
Is he a prolific goal scorer?

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