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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by folake4u(f): 6:12pm On Jun 05, 2020
I don't know why some family people like defrauding their members of their hard earned money. Smh.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Kaysalas(m): 6:17pm On Jun 05, 2020
Officialgarri:
Same thing is happening to a guy. He keeps sending money to his family to build a house for him but the project was so slow compared to the amount he has been sending.
His siblings kept squandering the money.
He sent home a bus full of clothes, his eldest brother dissapeared with it.

Now, he met a lady online with the promise of marriage. He started sending money via this girlfriend because he doesn't trust his family.
Not knowing the girl is only subtle demon too.

For everything he wants to buy, this girlfriend will double the price and till now, he's still sending money till now.
The lady's family are also aware and encouraging her to drain the guy.

This is not an hearsay, the lady is my friend grin


I've never spoken to the guy. I only see him on video calls when he's talking with her cheesy . And it's not my business neither is it my duty to ruin their relationship.

Recently, he asked the lady to get a shop close to the guy's family house. This lady informed her sister and mother. They advised this lady to convince him to rent the shop in her own state. Stating that, if she gets a shop close the guy's family house, the business will be in the guy's brother's name. So, she was advised to convince him to get the shop in her own family state so the business would be in her name. Also, she should tell him the shop is 5million naira cheesy cheesy


She has convinced the guy, but I haven't heard about the money though cheesy
You not informing the guy is not because you can't, but rather because you don't want to get involved. He is someone's brother for God's sake and could be your brother too. U know if you want to, you can go out of your way to inform this guy. U don't need to tell you how. Pls

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Kaysalas(m): 6:19pm On Jun 05, 2020
feldido:
grin

More like this
Haba! Bros I swear you nor well grin grin grin

Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by megapro(m): 7:15pm On Jun 05, 2020
Its unfortunate

Well
Its still redeemable if they can get over the size of the rooms

They should chain again on top what has been built
Meaning the lintel is at 2350 which is the 11 coarse of block work

An electric cutter should be used to remove the former lintel regions crossing the new French windows

The reinforcement has to be improved
12mm was used but the stirrup spacing should be reduced to 300
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Skilfu(m): 7:18pm On Jun 05, 2020
Now, you don't have to fall for those scam. I discovered this company that assist Africans in Diaspora to actually see there project on real time in the devices anywhere in the world. As an independent party to your building project, you can see live at what stage your project is.

No sending of another site pictures to clients.

Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Nobody: 7:58pm On Jun 05, 2020
Officialgarri:
Same thing is happening to a guy. He keeps sending money to his family to build a house for him but the project was so slow compared to the amount he has been sending.
His siblings kept squandering the money.
He sent home a bus full of clothes, his eldest brother dissapeared with it.

Now, he met a lady online with the promise of marriage. He started sending money via this girlfriend because he doesn't trust his family.
Not knowing the girl is only subtle demon too.

For everything he wants to buy, this girlfriend will double the price and till now, he's still sending money till now.
The lady's family are also aware and encouraging her to drain the guy.

This is not an hearsay, the lady is my friend grin


I've never spoken to the guy. I only see him on video calls when he's talking with her cheesy . And it's not my business neither is it my duty to ruin their relationship.

Recently, he asked the lady to get a shop close to the guy's family house. This lady informed her sister and mother. They advised this lady to convince him to rent the shop in her own state. Stating that, if she gets a shop close the guy's family house, the business will be in the guy's brother's name. So, she was advised to convince him to get the shop in her own family state so the business would be in her name. Also, she should tell him the shop is 5million naira cheesy cheesy

She has convinced the guy, but I haven't heard about the money though cheesy

Humans are wicked, reason I don't trust anyone except my immediate family.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by OVB123: 8:11pm On Jun 05, 2020
Josnac:
mufutau55, thanks for your contribution.

It's painful though, to see the extent people can go to rip another of their hard earned money.
My brother, it is normal thing here in benin city, where this story is rampant; infact those our brothers and sisters living in oversea are always reluctant to send money home for project(s) because there know that they are every possibilities that d money will not be used 4 what it was meant for.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by cooltola(m): 8:33pm On Jun 05, 2020
There is no family in business
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by OVB123: 8:33pm On Jun 05, 2020
Gigac1:
Interesting
In this mordern days, there is no reason not to receive daily pictures of your project from your contractors.
Also you are right, why not engage in a professional person to do your project and travel home un-announced to see what is happening with your project.
May God help us all.
May we reap the fruit of our labours
Just as i responded b4 i'm saying it again, even with pictures, these family members will still dupe u of ur hard earn money in oversea. it's a con scene in Benin city where these are are very rampant and as 4 contractor(s) pray u don't send money to the one that will play u mugu.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Adegunle4(m): 9:04pm On Jun 05, 2020
Well...things like this happen...I can remember handling a project for a lady who resides in the U.S...everything had gone fine...from the foundation to blockworks, roofing and plastering..
Only for her brother to show up on site and started passing comments..I had to hands off the project and allow him take over which I learnt they later spent over 8m on the project and the client couldn’t still pass a night in the house when she visited Nigeria...but at least I allowed them satisfy their conscience.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by mikeybrainy: 9:25pm On Jun 05, 2020
embarassed So much wickedness on this thread
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Hullabaloon: 10:09pm On Jun 05, 2020
Abaman001:
People from potopoto republic and miscreants known as Igbos are so wicked and heartless evil landlocked region republic of Biafra*d

What do u guys gain from comments like this?

Like, I'll just click on the reply button only to type something like this that has no value at all. Una get time o
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by mank1234(m): 10:15pm On Jun 05, 2020
There is one that they were sending pictures of another person's building only for him to return unannounced to meet undeveloped half plot.

Gigac1:
Interesting
In this mordern days, there is no reason not to receive daily pictures of your project from your contractors.
Also you are right, why not engage in a professional person to do your project and travel home un-announced to see what is happening with your project.
May God help us all.
May we reap the fruit of our labours
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by vioment: 10:28pm On Jun 05, 2020
This is an all side need to be heard story; because it has many angles.

I don't condone idiotic and selfish moves.
A life cursing self inflicted move.


One of my question to the sender is:

Did you sort out transportation, information flow, and some money for a reasonable keep up.

Did you show conscience for the time, the health, the new family (if one), and the potential to be self reliant from somewhere else.


The thieves here are very guilty as charged because they didn't factor in their concerns to the sender when they were planing.


This is a typical Nigerian issue, no plan no vision. Just begging, apprico-ing, and stealing from all.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Volunteer29(m): 10:36pm On Jun 05, 2020
Good day Nairalanders! Please i"m sorry to bring this here, please bear with me. I am a graduate of Education/Guidance & Counselling ( Bsc/B.Ed) . I'm open to any job offer in Lagos and Ibadan, not necessarily a white collar job cos I believe we (job seekers) should all start from somewhere and experience is also important.. I need your assistance please.Thanks �
Josnac:
Good day Nairalanders.

To start, something happened some days ago, but before I go into it, let me say something most of us might have heard, like me.

Well, growing up in a typical Nigerian city (Aba) back in the days..I was privileged to listen to discussions or conversations about how someone based abroad (Ala-bekee) used to send in money for a building project in the village/city as the case may be; then after some years or over the duration of some months, would return to meet a practically empty plot of land. in some cases, the so-called land would even be nonexistent.

The type of wahala issues like this cause eh, to those who can bear it, they can simply let go since the culprits in most cases are always blood relatives/siblings/uncle's/in-laws etc.

In my line of work I've equally bumped into a couple of such projects..the most recent one being the reason for this thread.

So, some days ago, I was contacted to evaluate a building project; a supposed one storey building comprising of 4x3-bedroom flats. However, only the front flat had been done up to "their" supposed deck beam level.
The owner of this project is based in Philadelphia, U.S.A and is a woman well over the late 60's.
The project supervisor/executioner is an in-law (I think he married one of the woman's daughters based on the information I received)..

Now, the instruction was simple: "Build this house while I send in the funds, at completion you and your family would take one flat and stay as caretakers of the property".

In all honesty, what I saw at the site left me bewildered and I was just wondering the "version" of wickedness at work in the so-called in-law.. seriously!!

By the building regulation standards, a standard building height ought to be at least 3metres. To achieve this during construction (block work stage), we do what I called "4-5-1-3" for bungalow buildings and "4-5-1-2" for lower levels of multi-storey buildings above the D.P.C.
Breakdown:
Above the DPC.
4: the first 4-courses of block work leading up to the window sill.
5: the next 5courses of block works above the window sill leading up to the lintel.
1: the lintel, always having a depth of 225mm (9inches) which is the depth of all block sizes.
3: the final 3-course of block work above the lintel use to level up in readiness for roof work. In multi-storey buildings, this last 3-courses is replaced by 2-courses with the final block removed and a deck beam introduced in its stead.

For the structure under review, what I met was more like a "3-4-1-3" (as shown in the picture) kind of formation following the same format as explained above. Now me sef wey dey think say I short, I still dey bend to enter one of the rooms because the door opening will always hit my forehead, yes, that's how bad it was!
And this is supposed to be a storey building!!

Next, I equally noticed that the plinth beams (mostly referred to as "chaining" at the DPC level), were without stirrups; yes, more like the 3-12mm used were just laid round the areas they thought necessary with over-site concrete (German floor) laid directly on them. Wow! we too Sabi for this country!!!

Well, luckily for this woman in question, she happened to have returned during one of the ceremonies the Igbere people of Abia State is known for, The Igbotonma ceremony, as she was a participant in the 2017 edition, thereafter she was taken to see her project; rooms were too small, kitchen was too small, etc..the house just looked so unplanned. She was heartbroken thus ordered the job to be stopped.

Please our brothers/sisters in the obodo oyibo (abroad) try as much as possible to engage professionals to do these things for you and while at it, endeavour to come in at least once to see the project by yourself and note any peculiar landmarks or something you can use to identify your site from a photograph, before them go begin send photos of Mr Okonkwo's site go give Mr Clinton. Insist on photo updates every 2-days, if not daily or at worst every 3-days..these stories are painful and they don't just touch the heart, the touch the spinal cord too.

Well, for this particular project, discussions are ongoing and a redesign is on the way..by God's grace a follow up thread will be available to show the updates and progress made when the job starts.

Have you experienced anything like this before??
Talk to us so that others can learn.

Best wishes,
Josnac.

cc: Lawyer
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by OreMI22: 10:52pm On Jun 05, 2020
Josnac:
Good day Nairalanders.

To start, something happened some days ago, but before I go into it, let me say something most of us might have heard, like me.

Well, growing up in a typical Nigerian city (Aba) back in the days..I was privileged to listen to discussions or conversations about how someone based abroad (Ala-bekee) used to send in money for a building project in the village/city as the case may be; then after some years or over the duration of some months, would return to meet a practically empty plot of land. in some cases, the so-called land would even be nonexistent.

The type of wahala issues like this cause eh, to those who can bear it, they can simply let go since the culprits in most cases are always blood relatives/siblings/uncle's/in-laws etc.

In my line of work I've equally bumped into a couple of such projects..the most recent one being the reason for this thread.

So, some days ago, I was contacted to evaluate a building project; a supposed one storey building comprising of 4x3-bedroom flats. However, only the front flat had been done up to "their" supposed deck beam level.
The owner of this project is based in Philadelphia, U.S.A and is a woman well over the late 60's.
The project supervisor/executioner is an in-law (I think he married one of the woman's daughters based on the information I received)..

Now, the instruction was simple: "Build this house while I send in the funds, at completion you and your family would take one flat and stay as caretakers of the property".

In all honesty, what I saw at the site left me bewildered and I was just wondering the "version" of wickedness at work in the so-called in-law.. seriously!!

By the building regulation standards, a standard building height ought to be at least 3metres. To achieve this during construction (block work stage), we do what I called "4-5-1-3" for bungalow buildings and "4-5-1-2" for lower levels of multi-storey buildings above the D.P.C.
Breakdown:
Above the DPC.
4: the first 4-courses of block work leading up to the window sill.
5: the next 5courses of block works above the window sill leading up to the lintel.
1: the lintel, always having a depth of 225mm (9inches) which is the depth of all block sizes.
3: the final 3-course of block work above the lintel use to level up in readiness for roof work. In multi-storey buildings, this last 3-courses is replaced by 2-courses with the final block removed and a deck beam introduced in its stead.

For the structure under review, what I met was more like a "3-4-1-3" (as shown in the picture) kind of formation following the same format as explained above. Now me sef wey dey think say I short, I still dey bend to enter one of the rooms because the door opening will always hit my forehead, yes, that's how bad it was!
And this is supposed to be a storey building!!

Next, I equally noticed that the plinth beams (mostly referred to as "chaining" at the DPC level), were without stirrups; yes, more like the 3-12mm used were just laid round the areas they thought necessary with over-site concrete (German floor) laid directly on them. Wow! we too Sabi for this country!!!

Well, luckily for this woman in question, she happened to have returned during one of the ceremonies the Igbere people of Abia State is known for, The Igbotonma ceremony, as she was a participant in the 2017 edition, thereafter she was taken to see her project; rooms were too small, kitchen was too small, etc..the house just looked so unplanned. She was heartbroken thus ordered the job to be stopped.

Please our brothers/sisters in the obodo oyibo (abroad) try as much as possible to engage professionals to do these things for you and while at it, endeavour to come in at least once to see the project by yourself and note any peculiar landmarks or something you can use to identify your site from a photograph, before them go begin send photos of Mr Okonkwo's site go give Mr Clinton. Insist on photo updates every 2-days, if not daily or at worst every 3-days..these stories are painful and they don't just touch the heart, the touch the spinal cord too.

Well, for this particular project, discussions are ongoing and a redesign is on the way..by God's grace a follow up thread will be available to show the updates and progress made when the job starts.

Have you experienced anything like this before??
Talk to us so that others can learn.

Best wishes,
Josnac.

cc: Lawyer

The fleecing of relatives abroad is such a wicked phenomenon among our people. If they buy land for N2 million, they will charge you N8 million naira for it.
If you send them money to build a house for you, they will use your money to build their own house.

It is so sad, but it has also deprived Nigeria A LOT of investment because our people rarely invest in Nigeria until they are able to supervise it.

Personally, I would advise people to simply save their money abroad until they are able to comeback and build. Going through relatives is just setting yourself up for heartbreak.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by mufutau55(m): 12:58am On Jun 06, 2020
tope3x:
Thank you...my projects are monitored via WhatsApp video call everyday....its just like I'm in Nigeria

One of the best way to do it. Good work. Make sure you always go home to see the actual work.

Hajji M.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by mufutau55(m): 1:00am On Jun 06, 2020
Empiree:
they complain of bad economy, bad govt and lack of opportunity. But when given one they loot you dry and still blame govt. I have said it many times and I will repeat it again. Nigerian govt is reflection of it's people and the people are the reflection of their govt.

Bad people will never stop o.

Hajji M.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by mufutau55(m): 1:01am On Jun 06, 2020
Spallanzani:

It's been a long time sir... How have you been

Still here and still helping those who might need it.
Thank you Sir.

Hajji M.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Nobody: 1:16am On Jun 06, 2020
her relatives scammed her cheesy
if u are overseas and u want to build a house back home then u should take ur time to monitor the building urself cheesy or hire a trusted proffesional to do it for you.All these irresponsible relatives that u will send the money back home to oversea a project and they will use the money for another thing cheesy.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Empiree: 2:39am On Jun 06, 2020
mufutau55:


Bad people will never stop o.

Hajji M.
It is sad. My brother completed my house for me without asking for a penny. As a reasonable man i knew what needed to be done to compensate him. He utilized funds sent to him wisely. This is why i dont understand why some family members betray their trust. It hurts.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by mufutau55(m): 2:48am On Jun 06, 2020
Empiree:
It is sad. My brother completed my house for me without asking for a penny. As a reasonable man i knew what needed to be done to compensate him. He utilized funds sent to him wisely. This is why i dont understand why some family members betray their trust. It hurts.

I understood exactly what you meant. I had a junior brother also completed a duplex for me from foundation to finish and I never saw it.. until opening day. Although I was monitoring it remotely thru Whatsapp.
There are some family members you can trust, but most of them cannot be trusted. Pray you have a good family member o.
It's sad when your own mother or father can even scam you. Very sad indeed.
God keep helping us o.

Hajji M.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by alexola20(m): 5:30am On Jun 06, 2020

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Spallanzani: 6:55am On Jun 06, 2020
mufutau55:


Still here and still helping those who might need it.
Thank you Sir.

Hajji M.
You remember me sir... I'll send you a DM
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by shhladyj(f): 10:14am On Jun 06, 2020
Even some engineers and contractors are not to be trusted. I know of a guy who sent his elder bro money to buy a land for him in owerri. And also money to get a car, though he bought the car in his own name and didn't buy the land na the matter we still dey settle. No land no money.
The man even didn't use the money to take care of himself, now this guy gave the money for the land to some other person who got him the land
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by maasoap(m): 10:50am On Jun 06, 2020
Officialgarri:
Same thing is happening to a guy. He keeps sending money to his family to build a house for him but the project was so slow compared to the amount he has been sending.
His siblings kept squandering the money.
He sent home a bus full of clothes, his eldest brother dissapeared with it.


She has convinced the guy, but I haven't heard about the money though cheesy

Save a life! That's not a relationship not to be destroyed
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by umurphy: 3:07pm On Jun 06, 2020
So sad for this act of wickedness. Pls do no use brothers or in laws for your building projects. Use professionals with registration number and practicing license
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by mufutau55(m): 6:12pm On Jun 06, 2020
Spallanzani:

You remember me sir... I'll send you a DM

Too many people to remember o. I have answered your DM. Thanks.

Hajji M.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by leksbore(m): 6:13pm On Jun 06, 2020
pls am Agent who is into clearing n forwarding of goods..both importation and exportations.pls i do contact me ..a trustworthy fellow...stay blessed ....07064225876....
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by tope3x(m): 12:38pm On Jun 07, 2020
Most times,they don't have Data,I won't mind subscribing 5000 naira on their phone just to be on video calls each time I send money for project,we must supervise it together grin grin ;Di don't want a story that touch grin grin grin...people are bad oo


mufutau55:


One of the best way to do it. Good work. Make sure you always go home to see the actual work.

Hajji M.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by EgunMogaji2: 6:21pm On Jun 07, 2020
Personally my experience of sending money home for construction was excellent.

My tact was making sure that the entity had meat on the bone.

It’s risky though but I made sure that I had video graphic evidence of each stage of work.

Good luck.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by boay(m): 11:37pm On Jun 11, 2020
We can help you monitor your building projects

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