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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Rick9(m): 10:55am On Jun 05, 2020
Nonxense
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by dayveed1(m): 10:55am On Jun 05, 2020
DIY
Any day anytime
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by MandalorianCree: 10:55am On Jun 05, 2020
Trusting a Nigerian now is suicidal, an average Nigerian has total disregard for the next person. Nigerians will commit crime and when not caught will call it smartness. Dude you're a criminal, nothing smart about about that, inventing something not seen before is smartness not taking advantage of someone trust in you.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Ramos16(m): 10:56am On Jun 05, 2020
There is literally only one picture of a wall.


Also, how much has she put into this project?

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by cooooooks(m): 10:56am On Jun 05, 2020
I advise people to set up an escrow account and to engage the building company directly. That way, you save yourself.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by obonujoker(m): 10:56am On Jun 05, 2020
Lol... Even you in one end of Nigeria to another end, people still scam you...

We have a few godly people in this country

Like it's said, "if you want something done right, do it yourself... Or use you direct son or daughter"... Applicable to businesses too...

Nigerians are too wicked

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Nobody: 10:56am On Jun 05, 2020
In law's can scam!! Worst thing is most times you'll have to let them off the hook because of marriage relationships.

To be safe, don't do business with in laws.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Goldenheart(m): 10:57am On Jun 05, 2020
angry Families
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by xynerise: 10:58am On Jun 05, 2020
An average Nigerian is dubious even your family members

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Chuknovski(m): 10:58am On Jun 05, 2020
this soo bad, but its also funny, grin I just feel sorry for the poor woman
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by abumeinben(m): 10:58am On Jun 05, 2020
This is inhuman.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by mechanics(m): 10:59am On Jun 05, 2020
Hmmmm, she should have used a trusted person other than are relations.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by SILVERLINES: 10:59am On Jun 05, 2020
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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by ediko5(m): 11:01am On Jun 05, 2020
mufutau55:
Thank you very much for the thread. Many diasporan have fallen victim of dubious people like this in Nigeria and most of them are family members.
In this mordern days, there is no reason not to receive daily pictures of your project from your contractors.
Also you are right, why not engage in a professional person to do your project and travel home un-announced to see what is happening with your project.
May God help us all.

Hajji M.

One can still be scammed with pictures evidence. Cos the person may go to an ongoing project to take the picture or even do Photoshop.

Timely visit, or engaging a company and external supervisor like family or friend is the solution cos both parties are from different background hence fraudulent collaboration will not be easy.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by tydi(m): 11:01am On Jun 05, 2020
grin

She didn't send enough money, that building you see there is the measures of the money she has been trying to build overseas grin grin

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Oluwahelpme(m): 11:01am On Jun 05, 2020
When we tell them to give us the project. They won't listen. See what happened now.
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by risos(m): 11:02am On Jun 05, 2020
This the plague that has infected this part of the globe responsible for all kind of problems in Nigeria.

The act of using in-laws, relations, girlfriends, godfathers, etc to substitute for qualified persons.

It is her type that would come to Nigeria assume one government position and start sharing contracts to her relatives.

Serves her right, let her go ahead and prosecute the in-law, nonsense absolutely.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Elmander1983(m): 11:03am On Jun 05, 2020
She is lucky she got something done on her space. I had a bitter experience and after much spending, nothing to show for it. The dude I call a mistake rather than my uncle claimed he was swindled. Nice post though, hope people learn from it.
Josnac:
Good day Nairalanders.

To start, something happened some days ago, but before I go into it, let me say something most of us might have heard, like me.

Well, growing up in a typical Nigerian city (Aba) back in the days..I was privileged to listen to discussions or conversations about how someone based abroad (Ala-bekee) used to send in money for a building project in the village/city as the case may be; then after some years or over the duration of some months, would return to meet a practically empty plot of land. in some cases, the so-called land would even be nonexistent.

The type of wahala issues like this cause eh, to those who can bear it, they can simply let go since the culprits in most cases are always blood relatives/siblings/uncle's/in-laws etc.

In my line of work I've equally bumped into a couple of such projects..the most recent one being the reason for this thread.

So, some days ago, I was contacted to evaluate a building project; a supposed one storey building comprising of 4x3-bedroom flats. However, only the front flat had been done up to "their" supposed deck beam level.
The owner of this project is based in Philadelphia, U.S.A and is a woman well over the late 60's.
The project supervisor/executioner is an in-law (I think he married one of the woman's daughters based on the information I received)..

Now, the instruction was simple: "Build this house while I send in the funds, at completion you and your family would take one flat and stay as caretakers of the property".

In all honesty, what I saw at the site left me bewildered and I was just wondering the "version" of wickedness at work in the so-called in-law.. seriously!!

By the building regulation standards, a standard building height ought to be at least 3metres. To achieve this during construction (block work stage), we do what I called "4-5-1-3" for bungalow buildings and "4-5-1-2" for lower levels of multi-storey buildings above the D.P.C.
Breakdown:
Above the DPC.
4: the first 4-courses of block work leading up to the window sill.
5: the next 5courses of block works above the window sill leading up to the lintel.
1: the lintel, always having a depth of 225mm (9inches) which is the depth of all block sizes.
3: the final 3-course of block work above the lintel use to level up in readiness for roof work. In multi-storey buildings, this last 3-courses is replaced by 2-courses with the final block removed and a deck beam introduced in its stead.

For the structure under review, what I met was more like a "3-4-1-3" (as shown in the picture) kind of formation following the same format as explained above. Now me sef wey dey think say I short, I still dey bend to enter one of the rooms because the door opening will always hit my forehead, yes, that's how bad it was!
And this is supposed to be a storey building!!

Next, I equally noticed that the plinth beams (mostly referred to as "chaining" at the DPC level), were without stirrups; yes, more like the 3-12mm used were just laid round the areas they thought necessary with over-site concrete (German floor) laid directly on them. Wow! we too Sabi for this country!!!

Well, luckily for this woman in question, she happened to have returned during one of the ceremonies the Igbere people of Abia State is known for, The Igbotonma ceremony, as she was a participant in the 2017 edition, thereafter she was taken to see her project; rooms were too small, kitchen was too small, etc..the house just looked so unplanned. She was heartbroken thus ordered the job to be stopped.

Please our brothers/sisters in the obodo oyibo (abroad) try as much as possible to engage professionals to do these things for you and while at it, endeavour to come in at least once to see the project by yourself and note any peculiar landmarks or something you can use to identify your site from a photograph, before them go begin send photos of Mr Okonkwo's site go give Mr Clinton. Insist on photo updates every 2-days, if not daily or at worst every 3-days..these stories are painful and they don't just touch the heart, the touch the spinal cord too.

Well, for this particular project, discussions are ongoing and a redesign is on the way..by God's grace a follow up thread will be available to show the updates and progress made when the job starts.

Have you experienced anything like this before??
Talk to us so that others can learn.

Best wishes,
Josnac.

cc: Lawyer

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by LexngtonSteele: 11:03am On Jun 05, 2020
grin
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by CapitalBank: 11:04am On Jun 05, 2020
mufutau55:
Thank you very much for the thread. Many diasporan have fallen victim of dubious people like this in Nigeria and most of them are family members.
In this mordern days, there is no reason not to receive daily pictures of your project from your contractors.
Also you are right, why not engage in a professional person to do your project and travel home un-announced to see what is happening with your project.
May God help us all.

Hajji M.

Hello sir, since I was a child, till my adulthood, I have never stopped hearing about this sort of ugly tales.

Now I am compelled to help solve this problem. So help me God.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by immaq8(f): 11:04am On Jun 05, 2020
they even try to lay foundation. my mom's was only having pictures, when she came back, she met nothing..
A guy that stays at Switzerland do send money to family-friend to build hotel at Asaba, when he came back last year December, he meant a complete building with good interior as proposed only to find out that the name on the documents was on the man's name (family friend).

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Burgerlomo: 11:04am On Jun 05, 2020
To work for obodo oyinbo to be able to send money home no be kids play, U work your ass off most especially in the harsh weather (winter) condition time. cool

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Zombiekiller010: 11:04am On Jun 05, 2020
I can't trust even my mom,blood bro and sis in handling my project for me on my behalf, deals involving closed people usually end in tears

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by BeStroNG(m): 11:05am On Jun 05, 2020
Quite a pity
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by styless(f): 11:05am On Jun 05, 2020
Do people still do this? What about coming homr and then buying a completed house

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by chuckstene: 11:05am On Jun 05, 2020
The Evil that Men do leaves with them and after them smiley
Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Nobody: 11:05am On Jun 05, 2020
Unless u are out of the country illegally and hiding, nothing stops you from going home. I will engage an outsider cum professional to build my house for me.

These days there is internet everywhere, I can face chat with everybody working there if I want to follow the progress of the house and show face unannounced, leave unannounced too.

We blame politicians everyday as if they are not the same Nigerians. U will know the real character of a Nigerian when he is handled money to execute a project or he sees avenue to make quick bucks. We holy pass now.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by 15ssDRIVE(m): 11:06am On Jun 05, 2020
Josnac:
Good day Nairalanders.

To start, something happened some days ago, but before I go into it, let me say something most of us might have heard, like me.

Well, growing up in a typical Nigerian city (Aba) back in the days..I was privileged to listen to discussions or conversations about how someone based abroad (Ala-bekee) used to send in money for a building project in the village/city as the case may be; then after some years or over the duration of some months, would return to meet a practically empty plot of land. in some cases, the so-called land would even be nonexistent.

The type of wahala issues like this cause eh, to those who can bear it, they can simply let go since the culprits in most cases are always blood relatives/siblings/uncle's/in-laws etc.

In my line of work I've equally bumped into a couple of such projects..the most recent one being the reason for this thread.

So, some days ago, I was contacted to evaluate a building project; a supposed one storey building comprising of 4x3-bedroom flats. However, only the front flat had been done up to "their" supposed deck beam level.
The owner of this project is based in Philadelphia, U.S.A and is a woman well over the late 60's.
The project supervisor/executioner is an in-law (I think he married one of the woman's daughters based on the information I received)..

Now, the instruction was simple: "Build this house while I send in the funds, at completion you and your family would take one flat and stay as caretakers of the property".

In all honesty, what I saw at the site left me bewildered and I was just wondering the "version" of wickedness at work in the so-called in-law.. seriously!!

By the building regulation standards, a standard building height ought to be at least 3metres. To achieve this during construction (block work stage), we do what I called "4-5-1-3" for bungalow buildings and "4-5-1-2" for lower levels of multi-storey buildings above the D.P.C.
Breakdown:
Above the DPC.
4: the first 4-courses of block work leading up to the window sill.
5: the next 5courses of block works above the window sill leading up to the lintel.
1: the lintel, always having a depth of 225mm (9inches) which is the depth of all block sizes.
3: the final 3-course of block work above the lintel use to level up in readiness for roof work. In multi-storey buildings, this last 3-courses is replaced by 2-courses with the final block removed and a deck beam introduced in its stead.

For the structure under review, what I met was more like a "3-4-1-3" (as shown in the picture) kind of formation following the same format as explained above. Now me sef wey dey think say I short, I still dey bend to enter one of the rooms because the door opening will always hit my forehead, yes, that's how bad it was!
And this is supposed to be a storey building!!

Next, I equally noticed that the plinth beams (mostly referred to as "chaining" at the DPC level), were without stirrups; yes, more like the 3-12mm used were just laid round the areas they thought necessary with over-site concrete (German floor) laid directly on them. Wow! we too Sabi for this country!!!

Well, luckily for this woman in question, she happened to have returned during one of the ceremonies the Igbere people of Abia State is known for, The Igbotonma ceremony, as she was a participant in the 2017 edition, thereafter she was taken to see her project; rooms were too small, kitchen was too small, etc..the house just looked so unplanned. She was heartbroken thus ordered the job to be stopped.

Please our brothers/sisters in the obodo oyibo (abroad) try as much as possible to engage professionals to do these things for you and while at it, endeavour to come in at least once to see the project by yourself and note any peculiar landmarks or something you can use to identify your site from a photograph, before them go begin send photos of Mr Okonkwo's site go give Mr Clinton. Insist on photo updates every 2-days, if not daily or at worst every 3-days..these stories are painful and they don't just touch the heart, the touch the spinal cord too.

Well, for this particular project, discussions are ongoing and a redesign is on the way..by God's grace a follow up thread will be available to show the updates and progress made when the job starts.

Have you experienced anything like this before??
Talk to us so that others can learn.

Best wishes,
Josnac.

cc: Lawyer


Me I yaf made a decision. Only when am home .... our people no get feelings.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by BlackDuke(m): 11:06am On Jun 05, 2020
They built her the Wailing Wall; really pathetic.

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by Aboguede(m): 11:08am On Jun 05, 2020
Pictures or we don't believe u

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Re: Sending Money Back Home For A Project: What Has Been Your Experience? by smeag0l(m): 11:09am On Jun 05, 2020
Please look for a way to inform that guy ASAP. You can save a life by doing this!
Officialgarri:
Same thing is happening to a guy. He keeps sending money to his family to build a house for him but the project was so slow compared to the amount he has been sending.
His siblings kept squandering the money.
He sent home a bus full of clothes, his eldest brother dissapeared with it.

Now, he met a lady online with the promise of marriage. He started sending money via this girlfriend because he doesn't trust his family.
Not knowing the girl is only subtle demon too.

For everything he wants to buy, this girlfriend will double the price and till now, he's still sending money till now.
The lady's family are also aware and encouraging her to drain the guy.

This is not an hearsay, the lady is my friend grin

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