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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by awgumayor: 8:01am On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


Don't flatter yourselves.

Notice that southern Cameroonian tribes were the ones championing this ambazonia movement, yet the referendum would include parts of Nigeria, why do you think it's so?

It's simple. Because the colonial powers only deal with colonial maps, and the colonial map of German Cameroon that was shared by Britain and France after Germany lost the WW2, is what is being used to create this new country.
Hence Nigeria is being forced to vomit parts of Cameroon German it swallowed While Cameroon itself is forced to do the same.

IPOB believe that the colonial masters would only recognize Eastern region as a colonial entity and not Igboland.
That's why they are trying to woo the minorities, because it would be impossible to get an independent Igbo republic without first getting independent Eastern region approved.

Alternatively, because of our Anioma brothers that using Eastern region map would leave trapped in Nigeria, IPOB is considering the 1906 colonial Southern Nigeria map, that includes all southern Nigeria minus Yorubaland. It also include Igala and Idoma lands in Benue.


That's another colonial map that could be used, and that's why you feel like they are wooing those groups in that map. Igbo nationalists like myself know this. But we don't think it's worth the insults coming from those non Igbo groups.

The idea is to use those tribes to gain independence from Nigeria. And thereafter dump you all to form our Igbo republic. Whatever you do with yourselves thereafter. Is none of our business.

Don't think you are special or that Ndiigbo want anything from you. It's the colonial maps that is leaving us with no option but to negotiate with you lots.

Even the Loyal Niger Congress, mostly championed by Niger deltans also adopted the 1906 colonial map.
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Tripoli(m): 8:01am On Jun 06, 2020
Goodmarlian:


Mumu grin grin ijaw is the largest of all minor ethnic groups in Nigeria over 18 million they will clear urhobos if they is a war in less than a month. tongue

Forget about those statistics.
Ijaw are 6 million people and don't think that an okrika or adoni etc in the riverine is answerable as an ijaw
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Tripoli(m): 8:04am On Jun 06, 2020
9jaunite:
wink Say what you know
Do you know how many urobo, isoko that are militants

Lol

Ijaw can't war the rest tribe

War is not by popularity or you should Google about the 6th October..

Ijaw have the power in their territory not others
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Tripoli(m): 8:05am On Jun 06, 2020
Goodmarlian:


mumu wey no know geography do your research well you think ijaws are only in bayelsa and rivers ABI e go shock you. grin grin


You think all the riverine ethnic groups are ijaw?
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Tripoli(m): 8:07am On Jun 06, 2020
Binikingdowm:
the ijaws in Delta, ondo, Edo, akwa ibom and Lagos aren't up to 2 million in population.

The ones in river and bayelsa are barely 2 million in total

Educate the motherfucker

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Tripoli(m): 8:09am On Jun 06, 2020
kingzizzy:




Its got nothing to do with Biafra. If the minorities feel that they want a separate country called Niger Delta Republic or any other name, they had better organise themselves and start pushing for that. The reason is that of all those who are currently seeking separate country, Niger Delta Republic will be the most difficult to actualise.

If Igbos go for Biafra, it will be easier because they are one tribe, one language and one culture

If Yorubas go for Oduduwa Republic, it will be easier because it is one tribe, one language and one culture

If Hausa/Fulani go for Arewa, it will be easier for them for the same reason.

But if the Niger Delta goes for Niger Delta Republic, it will be very difficult to achieve because you have over 30 tribes, different languages and cultures. To unify all of them will be almost impossible.

So if Nigeria breaks up, and their is no movement that is championing the cause of Niger Delta Republic, what is most likely to happen is that each of the tribes in the Niger Delta will have no choice but to choose which they want to go with, Oduduwa Republic, Arewa Republic or Biafra.

Israel was created with surprised.
If you think that the igbo will first get an independent before the Deltan people you're in a long thing

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Tripoli(m): 8:15am On Jun 06, 2020
Goodmarlian:


Guy you are wise unlike the sentimental op .BiAfra with all the struggle and sacrifice Is still looking impossible talkless of Nigerdelta grin grin. Imagine unifying 30 tribes all producing oil nobody will even want to share it resources las las Niger delta will the shared between oodua and BiAfra.

How ethnic groups are in Nigeria?

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Tripoli(m): 8:17am On Jun 06, 2020
Deebwebb:
as far as anioma,opobo,bonny and other igbo territories are not included,I wish you good luck...we need to go our separate ways...
Project Nigeria failed....

Is Anioma igbo territory?

But the gate was against you through the bridge.
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by meavox: 8:19am On Jun 06, 2020
9jaunite:
Imagine a Niger Delta Republic Where

Akwai-ibom represents the states tourist attraction/ Recreational And sports center

Calabar - Returned to being the administrative center

Rivers- Business/ Industrial Capital

Bayelsa- oil and gas hub, and agriculture

Delta- Entertainment/industrial Hub And Agricultural Nerve center

Edo state- the historical side attraction center

Believe me one day our dream will come to past



YES it will happen if we DO it!

There is Constitutional Force Majeure ongoing to take down the Apartheid and forged 1999 Constitution.

Lower Niger Congress (LNC) with Oduduwa and Middle Belt organisations have started it. Google for information.

LNC link:
https://www.facebook.com/lowernigercongress/?ref=br_tf&epa=SEARCH_BOX&__m_async_page__=1&_rdc=1&_rdr


Make it known! Help make it happen. If we all DO instead of just pray, it will happen.

Not just Niger Delta but all South & MB will be free to be beautiful!
cheesy

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by BlackAdam55(m): 8:31am On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:


Forget about those statistics.
Ijaw are 6 million people and don't think that an okrika or adoni etc in the riverine is answerable as an ijaw

Lol Okrikas are 110% Ijaws they have never for once deny being ijaws

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Deebwebb: 9:23am On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:


Is Anioma igbo territory?

But the gate was against you through the bridge.
of course we are igbo,the Nigeria massacre in asaba is still fresh....

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 9:36am On Jun 06, 2020
Blackking98:
here you're wrong. Urhobos have militants, ogoni too, Efik too, ibibio too so ijaws don't have the Monopoly of violence so relax we'll sort ourselves out

Sentiments aside, nature blessed the Niger Delta with natural resources but ended up undermining it by making it a Babelian society.

To be honest with you, a Nigerian Delta Rep will sink into a civil war no sooner it gains independence. South Sudan is an example of how a heterogeneous and resource rich country will decend into chaos once left on their own. Ijaw will be the greatest undoing to any nation it is part of and I will give you reasons.

1. They have a topography that makes guerilla warfare easy and convenient to embark on.

2. They have oil resources that can sustain any warlord who wants to fight the government.

3. They don't believe in deplomacy rather they are aggressive and voilent when going for what they want, naturally lazy and are a band of disjointed ethnicity with many dissimilar subgroups.

I have studied the disparate ethnic groups in the Niger Delta and Ijaws are the ones that would destabilize any country that forms there. Already, they are fighting with virtually all its neighbors at the moment and the formation of a new country will cause the faultlines to deepen since there won't be external bigger enemies to fight.

Igbos will have a moderating influence if the whole region becomes one country but even at that it is still too risky for me compared to an only Igbo country that will have relative peace and stability.

Lastly, I don't think there is ever any state, least of all in Africa that has just one ethnic group so it may be difficult for the UN to grant an only Igbo country but even if we are to go together, I will always support a country where every region is autonomous to an extent.

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Blackking98(m): 9:41am On Jun 06, 2020
proeast:


Sentiments aside, nature blessed the Niger Delta with natural resources but ended up undermining it by making it a Babelian society.

To be honest with you, a Nigerian Delta Rep will sink into a civil war no sooner it gains independence. South Sudan is an example of how a heterogeneous and resource rich country will decend into chaos once left on their own. Ijaw will be the greatest undoing to any nation it is part of and I will give you reasons.

1. They have a topography that makes guerilla warfare easy and convenient to embark on.

2. They have oil resources that can sustain any warlord who wants to fight the government.

3. They don't believe in deplomacy rather they are aggressive and voilent when going for what they want, naturally lazy and are a band of disjointed ethnicity with many dissimilar subgroups.

I have studied the disparate ethnic groups in the Niger Delta and Ijaws are the ones that would destabilize any country that forms there. Already, they are fighting with virtually all its neighbors at the moment and the formation of a new country will cause the faultlines to deepen since there won't be external bigger enemies to fight.

Igbos will have a moderating influence if the whole region becomes one country but even at that it is still too risky for me compared to an only Igbo country that will have relative peace and stability.

Lastly, I don't think there is ever any state, least of all in Africa that has just one ethnic group so it may be difficult for the UN to grant an only Igbo country but even if we are to go together, I will always support a country where every region is autonomous to an extent.

It's only In Africa that you don't find one country with one or just a handful of ethnic groups, Rwanda that just has two see how they're prospering although after years of bloodbath. They know Africans are really divided along ethnic lines and hence always mix ethnic groups together, if a single ethnic group has its own country eg oodudwa for Yoruba and Biafra for igbos honestly this two countries will give the world powers a run for their money, but instead they'll add minorities to this countries thereby causing another mini Nigeria and we'll be busy fighting ourselves instead of thinking of how to catch up with them.
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 9:53am On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:


Israel was created with surprised.
If you think that the igbo will first get an independent before the Deltan people you're in a long thing

The funny thing is that most of you don't reason logically instead you allow emotions to override everything.

Let me inform you that UN cannot support the creation of a country they know will easily go into a civil war the very next minute.

Before you talk about presenting your case to the UN that you're seeking for independence, you will have to do the following:

Get the support of all the ethnicities that make up the Niger Delta. Now this is where you will encounter the first problem. Will the Itshekiri agree to be in the same country with the Ijaws knowing that they will be at their mercy and considering the Warri question? What about the Ikwerre, will they be comfortable to be in a country with the Ijaws knowing what that means to their current dominant position in P.H?

What about the Asa/Ndoki Igbos as well as the Egbema, do you think they will agree to go with Niger Delta when their immediate kiths and kin in Abia and Imo states respectively will be in another country?

Look at the map of SS, does that map seem realistic and logical? That map is shapeless and can't fly once it gets to the UN table.

Now contrast these challenges we the Igbos that are homogeneous and thus no need to start negotiating with others, already going for Biafra, has the global spread and unity of purpose to mount worldwide pressure etc. and yet you think you can easily get yours before Biafra??

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Hotice085: 10:08am On Jun 06, 2020
proeast:


The funny thing is that most of you don't reason logically instead you allow emotions to override everything.

Let me inform you that UN cannot support the creation of a country they know will easily go into a civil war the very next minute.

Before you talk about presenting your case to the UN that you're seeking for independence, you will have to do the following:

Get the support of all the ethnicities that make up the Niger Delta. Now this is where you will encounter the first problem. Will the Itshekiri agree to be in the same country with the Ijaws knowing that they will be at their mercy and considering the Warri question? What about the Ikwerre, will they be comfortable to be in a country with the Ijaws knowing what that means to their current dominant position in P.H?

What about the Asa/Ndoki Igbos as well as the Egbema, do you think they will agree to go with Niger Delta when their immediate kiths and kin in Abia and Imo states respectively will be in another country?

Look at the map of SS, does that map seem realistic and logical? That map is shapeless and can't fly once it gets to the UN table.

. Rants of a pained man from a country whose landmass same size of a football pitch in SS but with a population 1000times the landmass.

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 10:15am On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:


Igbo aren't in the Niger Delta but immigrants

This is so childish and full of ignorance. So the entire Delta North are migrants?

The Etche, Asa/Ndoki, Egbema, Ikwerre etc. are all migrants too?

Don't make it look like the money spent in educating you was a waste.

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 10:17am On Jun 06, 2020
Hotice085:
. Rants of a pained man from a country whose landmass same size of a football pitch in SS but with a population 1000times the landmass.

No sense! No logic!!

There are Igbos too in the so-called SS, so why not tell me your ethnic group or are they so insignificant that you must lump all others together for you to be noticeable??

I can wager a bet that there are more Igbos in the so-called SS than your little tribe you're too ashamed to mention.

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by sageb: 10:18am On Jun 06, 2020
proeast:


The funny thing is that most of you don't reason logically instead you allow emotions to override everything.

Let me inform you that UN cannot support the creation of a country they know will easily go into a civil war the very next minute.

Before you talk about presenting your case to the UN that you're seeking for independence, you will have to do the following:

Get the support of all the ethnicities that make up the Niger Delta. Now this is where you will encounter the first problem. Will the Itshekiri agree to be in the same country with the Ijaws knowing that they will be at their mercy and considering the Warri question? What about the Ikwerre, will they be comfortable to be in a country with the Ijaws knowing what that means to their current dominant position in P.H?

What about the Asa/Ndoki Igbos as well as the Egbema, do you think they will agree to go with Niger Delta when their immediate kiths and kin in Abia and Imo states respectively will be in another country?

Look at the map of SS, does that map seem realistic and logical? That map is shapeless and can't fly once it gets to the UN table.

Now contrast these challenges we the Igbos that are homogeneous and thus no need to start negotiating with others, already going for Biafra, has the global spread and unity of purpose to mount worldwide pressure etc. and yet you think you can easily get yours before Biafra??

face your nnamdi kanu and abia state. Charity begins at home. Look at abia state, when you cross the rivers state boundary to abia state, from azumini to aba to ukwa west and it's environs all you see is dirts and deathtrap roads. You will wonder if abia have a governor at all. The person that called abia state "God's own state" must be high on ogogoro, how can God dwell in a dirty and deathtrap state. Niger deltans have nothing to do with Igbos
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 10:23am On Jun 06, 2020
sageb:
[s]face your nnamdi kanu and abia state. Charity begins at home. Look at abia state, when you cross the rivers state boundary to abia state, from azumini to aba to ukwa west and it's environs all you see is dirts and deathtrap roads. You will wonder if abia have a governor at all. The person that called abia state "God's own state" must be high on ogogoro, how can God dwell in a dirty and deathtrap state. Niger deltans have nothing to do with Igbos [/s]

Sorry, no sense found. So I can't engage you when you're not making sense.

Say something reasonable please.

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by sageb: 10:35am On Jun 06, 2020
proeast:


Sorry, no sense found. So I can't engage you when you're not making sense.

Say something reasonable please.
the truth is a bitter pill to swallow. Niger deltans have nothing to do with Igbos.
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by 7lives: 10:43am On Jun 06, 2020
9jaunite:



Trash

How come you just conclude we are not united

The better biafra start seeing us as another territory the better for them

grin grin grin na war o.
So so drama.
Niger Deltans don wise up, opari.
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by sageb: 10:45am On Jun 06, 2020
Hotice085:
. Rants of a pained man from a country whose landmass same size of a football pitch in SS but with a population 1000times the landmass.
that is why they are obsess with Niger deltans. If you merge enugu, abia and imo together it is not up to cross river state- 20,156kmsq. If you merge the other two anambra and ebonyi together it is not up to delta state- 17,698kmsq. That is why these Igbos are not content with their SE rather they are looking for minorities land to grab. These Igbos are bunch of delusional ignoramus.

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by AniOmaa: 10:45am On Jun 06, 2020
sageb:
the truth is a bitter pill to swallow. Niger deltans have nothing to do with Igbos.
Just make sure not an inch of Anioma is included in your useless cut and join ND republic, as long as that much is established, then there won't be a problem.

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Nobody: 10:51am On Jun 06, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
You're a fool? How many times have they raid South East compare to the ones in South West and South South


See u r losing the battle.. U Don change ur talk now.. Shebi u say dem never raid SE...

Now it's how many times gringringringrin

Oya show me how many times they have raided SW and SS then I will open an archive on how many time they have raided SE

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Kuruptnigga: 10:55am On Jun 06, 2020

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Kuruptnigga: 11:01am On Jun 06, 2020
timekeeper1:



See u r losing the battle.. U Don change ur talk now.. Shebi u say dem never raid SE...

Now it's how many times gringringringrin

Oya show me how many times they have raided SW and SS then I will open an archive on how many time they have raided SE
Google is your friend. Try and make Google your friend. It will help you

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Nobody: 11:04am On Jun 06, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
South east own is even better? At least this is old news. But recently in South South and South West they're still killing more people in there grin grin


Imagine SE.. Killing ur people is even better?

Such a dull guy... I have u 4 links to killings in SE..

Pls kindly post SW and SS if u no dt u r confident..


If u can't argue with fact, den shattap..

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Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by 7lives: 11:04am On Jun 06, 2020
9jaunite:


My dad once said it is more cool to stay under illiterate north than the literate igbo



Lobatan cheesy grin grin opari.
Like seriously?, o gidi gan o.
I remembered watching the movie about Chinese invasion and colonization of Tibet.
The Tibetans have lost their homeland to the Chinese Invaders, and are now roaming the most despicable places in South East Asia.
Dalai Lama the ruler of Tibet, that was a little boy at that time is over 60 years now, he lives like a commoner in India, he had the Buddhists Sanskrits, but the Chinese rule Tibet.
The UN has not been able to help the Tibetans till tomorrow.
It is not easy to repair what is broken, neither is it easy to recover what got stolen.
Your father is a man with foresight, when a hand shake becomes an embrace, na wrestle.
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by Nobody: 11:05am On Jun 06, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
Google is your friend. Try and make Google your friend. It will help you

Better go home and stop selling gala in lagos gringringrin..

Go and help ur brothers defend SE before Fulani take over SE finally
Re: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by 7lives: 11:16am On Jun 06, 2020
9jaunite:


More reason biafra can not come to past

Yes you guys are seeking freedom


undecided Planing to annex another region

grin grin grin They need to perish the toughts, else as it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end.

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