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Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by gbami(m): 8:32am On Jun 06, 2020
Ephesians 6:5
Colossians 3:22
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Tell me how? How is it possible?
To sincerely obey someone that's Enslaving you ...that believes you are a shit in the site of human, that you are a second class human...

Many things just don't sit well...

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by TheSourcerer: 8:34am On Jun 06, 2020
Good job ,
Oh and woman should not speak openly in churches ,



And wives submits wholesomely to your men , no questions asked
I love the bible


How can you be a woman and be a Christain , lol it makes absolutely no sense.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 8:48am On Jun 06, 2020
You are not supposed to believe everything you read in the Bible. I'd even say you are not meant to believe anything in the Bible unless your intention is to tremble like a demon.

Try understanding the Bible instead, in its context and its time. I assure you you'd evolve.


Disbelieve and Know!

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by LordReed(m): 8:58am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:
You are not supposed to believe everything you read in the Bible. I'd even say you are not meant to believe anything in the Bible unless your intention is to tremble like a demon.

Try understanding the Bible instead, in its context and its time. I assure you you'd evolve.


Disbelieve and Know!

Bodhisattva, I greet you.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 8:59am On Jun 06, 2020
LordReed:


Bodhisattva, I greet you.
Greetings my Lord. Long time!
How and where you been?
Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by OnPointMan(m): 9:00am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:
You are not supposed to believe everything you read in the Bible. I'd even say you are not meant to believe anything in the Bible unless your intention is to tremble like a demon.

Try understanding the Bible instead, in its context and its time. I assure you you'd evolve.


Disbelieve and Know!

Gbam!
Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by gbami(m): 9:07am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:
You are not supposed to believe everything you read in the Bible. I'd even say you are not meant to believe anything in the Bible unless your intention is to tremble like a demon.

Try understanding the Bible instead, in its context and its time. I assure you you'd evolve.


Disbelieve and Know!
Make me understand the meaning of the passage...
Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 9:25am On Jun 06, 2020
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I can understand why some Bible readers think it is a good thing to emulate demons. After all, "believe" was the word used for learning in its time, and it is repeated many times in the Bible that believing will get one into heaven, and the Nigerian education system hardly teaches understanding, which is why one can regurgitate what one crammed to pass an exam. Tell them to use their learning however, and you'd find empty trembling heads that are unemployable.

Funny thing is many would rather believe a book than the evidence before their own eyes! Or when did a belief put food on your table? And that, despite reading that Jesus was a healer of the senses, and that "thou shalt not bow down and worship idols", which is what the Bible becomes when it is elevated to godhood.

We are young I guess, and think like children. But a time will surely come when childhood beliefs will be put away and we shall see face to face and understand instead and grow in wisdom.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 9:39am On Jun 06, 2020
gbami:

Make me understand the meaning of the passage...
Its not about "understand the meaning of any single passage"! As Christ said, "do not live by bread alone or you will be malnourished"!

You must read the entire book in order to understand that as the wrathful God evolved into the loving Jesus Christ, so too do the ideas in the Bible evolve over time.

A clear example of the evolution of Biblical ideas is [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A38-48&version=NIV]the following[/url]:

"You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth."

Jesus evolved it to:

"But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you".

If you evolve the passages in the same way Jesus taught us to do, I'm certain you'd know how to treat your wife and your slaves.

Please accept this free book to assist your evolution.

budaatum:
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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by malvisguy212: 9:42am On Jun 06, 2020
gbami:
Ephesians 6:5
Colossians 3:22
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Tell me how? How is it possible?
To sincerely obey someone that's Enslaving you ...that believes you are a shit in the site of human, that you are a second class human...

Many things just don't sit well...

what is wrong in that verses? A servant should not attempt to deceive a master, but rather
genuinely work hard to do his or her best. Does it mean this verse encourage slaves? Now read verse 9 of Ephesians 6. Paul address those who own slaves, in
verse 9. There, he will remind them that they are no better than those they (the slaves) .

Your Argument would have been better if Paul had not address both the master and the slaves. Paul message is clearly understand,slaves (servant) obey your master. Master, do not man handling your slaves. But your corrupted mind sees only the negatives side . Can any good comes out from your heart?

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by hoopernikao: 9:46am On Jun 06, 2020
gbami:
Ephesians 6:5
Colossians 3:22
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Tell me how? How is it possible?
To sincerely obey someone that's Enslaving you ...that believes you are a shit in the site of human, that you are a second class human...

Many things just don't sit well...


Good morning.
That scripture you quoted has verse 7,8,9 in same context. Read it properly. Then go back again and read from verse 1 for better understanding.

Scriptures are meant to be read together not in isolation. That is how meaning is derived from all literature.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by gbami(m): 9:49am On Jun 06, 2020
malvisguy212:
what is wrong in that verses? A servant should not attempt to deceive a master, but rather
genuinely work hard to do his or her best. Does it mean this verse encourage slaves? Now read verse 9 of Ephesians 6. Paul address those who own slaves, in
verse 9. There, he will remind them that they are no better than those they (the slaves) .

Your Argument would have been better if Paul had not address both the master and the slaves. Paul message is clearly understand,slaves (servant) obey your master. Master, do not man handling your slaves. But your corrupted mind sees only the negatives side . Can any good comes out from your heart?
Idiot Continue to be deceived ...I know when you pray you imagine a white man coming to save you, because they are your "master". And a man that looks like you is evil or the devil....
Idiot

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by malvisguy212: 9:54am On Jun 06, 2020
gbami:

Idiot Continue to be deceived ...I know when you pray you imagine a white man coming to save you, because they are your "master". And a man that looks like you is evil or the devil....
Idiot
and the devil has revealed himself. You start as a genuine seeker. You ask polite, but when I give you the answer, the demon in you reveal himself .
Why did you skeep verse 9? Well, I cannot exchange word with you on a faceless forum. That's immature.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by gbami(m): 10:03am On Jun 06, 2020
malvisguy212:
and the devil has revealed himself. You start as a genuine seeker. You ask polite, but when I give you the answer, the demon in you reveal himself .
Why did you skeep verse 9? Well, I cannot exchange word with you on a faceless forum. That's immature.
Now I am a demon...
Because I chosed to ask questions...
Religious Fanatic ... Don't ask questions, just swallow everything you are told ,you read or else you are evil or demonic....

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by malvisguy212: 10:04am On Jun 06, 2020
hoopernikao:


Good morning.
That scripture you quoted has verse 7,8,9 in same context. Read it properly. Then go back again and read from verse 1 for better understanding.

Scriptures are meant to be read together not in isolation. That is how meaning is derived from all literature.
don't mind them. Is just like a man wrote exam, score 80% out of 100%, would it be fair if the teacher ignore the ones he got right, and failed him? Just because he got 20% wrong? .

Likewise, they interpret the bible base on ONE SINGLE verse. and the answer to the op is in verse 9.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by malvisguy212: 10:06am On Jun 06, 2020
gbami:
Now I am a demon...
Because I chosed to ask questions...
Religious Fanatic ... Don't ask questions, just swallow everything you are told ,you read or else you are evil or demonic....
you ask questions, did I condemned your questions? If you can read verse 6, are you too lazy to read up to verse 9?
Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by LordReed(m): 10:12am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:

Greetings my Lord. Long time!
How and where you been?

I am well my dear buda and been preoccupied by many things. Hope you are going ok.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 10:39am On Jun 06, 2020
malvisguy212:

Can any good comes out from your heart?
Forgive me for answering, but yes, good can come out of their hearts.

However, one must watch ones own heart and forgive them because they are only doing as they have been taught to believe they should.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 10:40am On Jun 06, 2020
LordReed:


I am well my dear buda and been preoccupied by many things. Hope you are going ok.
Yeah, I'm good. Thanks.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by malvisguy212: 10:45am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:

Forgive me for answering, but yes, good can come out of their hearts.

However, one must watch ones own heart and forgive them because they are only doing as they have been taught to believe they should.
well, budaatum. That question was a rhetorical questions. Good can come out from our heart , but most people surpass the truth, which the op is doing.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by delkuf(m): 10:45am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:
You are not supposed to believe everything you read in the Bible. I'd even say you are not meant to believe anything in the Bible unless your intention is to tremble like a demon.

Try understanding the Bible instead, in its context and its time. I assure you you'd evolve.


Disbelieve and Know!
You see what this guy is saying. if u can't believe everything in the Bible, then don't believe in the Bible

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 10:55am On Jun 06, 2020
delkuf:
You see what this guy is saying. if u can't believe everything in the Bible, then don't believe in the Bible
If I can't believe God created heaven and earth in six days and rested on the seventh, I should steal and murder and not love my neighbour?

And what if I understand the Bible instead of just believing and trembling like a demon?
Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 10:57am On Jun 06, 2020
malvisguy212:
well, budaatum. That question was a rhetorical questions. Good can come out from our heart , but most people surpass the truth, which the op is doing.
It is godly to seek answers. Give op the benefit of the doubt that he wants to learn.
Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by delkuf(m): 11:00am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:

If I can't believe God created heaven and earth in six days and rested on the seventh, I should steal and murder and not love my neighbour?

And what if I understand the Bible instead of just believing and trembling like a demon?
You cannot understand the Bible without believing in it

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by malvisguy212: 11:01am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:

It is godly to seek answers. Give op the benefit of the doubt that he wants to learn.
yep, that's why I reply him. Questions are allowed.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 11:10am On Jun 06, 2020
delkuf:
You cannot understand the Bible without believing in it
You are wrong, delkuf.

It would in fact have made more sense if you had said, "one cannot believe the Bible unless one understands it". But if you did understand the Bible, you would not merely believe it because you would know what was meant in it and be more able to live it.

Here's a thread that might help you understand what I mean.

Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by delkuf(m): 11:25am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:

You are wrong, delkuf.

It would in fact have made more sense if you had said, "one cannot believe the Bible unless one understands it". But if you did understand the Bible, you would not merely believe it because you would know what was meant in it and be more able to live it.

Here's a thread that might help you understand what I mean.
Didn't you read what you wrote. Let me rephrase it. You said and what if I understand the Bible instead of just believing and trembling like demon. So I said you cannot understand the Bible without believing in it. let me ask you a question. As an atheist what do you believe. You believe that nobody created the heavens and the earth. That we evolve as a human being. So did you come to understand this without believing in it. You understand from what a scientist told and you believe in it. If I tell God created the heavens and earth, you will say you don't believe in it. Because you have to believe what you understand. So I repeat you cannot understand the Bible without believing in it.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 11:35am On Jun 06, 2020
delkuf:
Didn't you read what you wrote. Let me rephrase it. You said and what if I understand the Bible instead of just believing and trembling like demon. So I said you cannot understand the Bible without believing in it. let me ask you a question. As an atheist what do you believe.
Who told you buda is an atheist? And why would you think buda believes when buda has clearly stated that believing is the emulation of demons?

People who believe things tend to not have bothered to check any evidence and usually believe crap that they make up inside their heads.

Or don't you think so?
Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by budaatum: 11:38am On Jun 06, 2020
delkuf:
Because you have to believe what you understand. So I repeat you cannot understand the Bible without believing in it.
No delkuf, you are wrong.

I have to understand what I believe or I might ignorantly be believing what I do not understand.

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by delkuf(m): 11:38am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:

Who told you buda is an atheist? And why would you think buda believes when buda has clearly stated that believing is the emulation of demons?

People who believe things tend to not have bothered to check any evidence and usually believe crap that they make up inside their heads.

Or don't you think so?
yeah, but not with the Bible. You cannot understand the Bible without believing in it. you must believe then understand.


And sorry for tagging you as an atheist

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Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by Gaggii: 11:39am On Jun 06, 2020
budaatum:
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I can understand why some Bible readers think it is a good thing to emulate demons. After all, "believe" was the word used for learning in its time, and it is repeated many times in the Bible that believing will get one into heaven, and the Nigerian education system hardly teaches understanding, which is why one can regurgitate what one crammed to pass an exam. Tell them to use their learning however, and you'd find empty trembling heads that are unemployable.

Funny thing is many would rather believe a book than the evidence before their own eyes! Or when did a belief put food on your table? And that, despite reading that Jesus was a healer of the senses, and that "thou shalt not bow down and worship idols", which is what the Bible becomes when it is elevated to godhood.

We are young I guess, and think like children. But a time will surely come when childhood beliefs will be put away and we shall see face to face and understand instead and grow in wisdom.



What is he talking
Re: Why I Don't Believe Everything I Read In The Bible. by Gaggii: 11:41am On Jun 06, 2020
malvisguy212:
what is wrong in that verses? A servant should not attempt to deceive a master, but rather
genuinely work hard to do his or her best. Does it mean this verse encourage slaves? Now read verse 9 of Ephesians 6. Paul address those who own slaves, in
verse 9. There, he will remind them that they are no better than those they (the slaves) .

Your Argument would have been better if Paul had not address both the master and the slaves. Paul message is clearly understand,slaves (servant) obey your master. Master, do not man handling your slaves. But your corrupted mind sees only the negatives side . Can any good comes out from your heart?

The point remains Bible did not condemn slavery...even quran

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