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Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Kobojunkie: 11:18am On Jun 07, 2020
malvisguy212:
they say action speak louder than voice, if the act don by Jesus when He compare Himself with Solomon cannot convince you that Solomon repent, who am I to convince you? Thank you for your time. Have a blessed weekend.
Jesus spoke of the wisdom which Solomon was given by God. He never told you that Solomon was a man without sin. So scratch that thought out of your head. The same Jesus compared sinful fathers on earth in a way to the Father in Heaven, that does not then mean the fathers on earth were absolved of their sins as a result of that comparison.

Please go back and read the book of 1 Kings 11, 12, and maybe 13, so you can learn what really happened to Solomon and his kingship. God did not lie in sentencing and carried out his sentence against Solomon for the sins he committed against God. God does not lie!
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by kelmicheal: 11:24am On Jun 07, 2020
Inpossible, Naija kings fortified themselves with charms and concoctions including politicians too dnt tell me pastor osinbajo do not have any
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Sheriman(m): 11:25am On Jun 07, 2020
In this NIGERIA, even a Pastor can't be a Good Christian.

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Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Mikat: 11:28am On Jun 07, 2020
Go and read about Oba Akinyele of Ibadan who also was a King that refused to compromise Faith. He remained a Faithful Christian until He was called Home.

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Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by badoh(m): 11:33am On Jun 07, 2020
DammyLucy:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SEUN AND OTHER MODS

If this was a topic related to Islam, ppl would be required to make a declaration that allah is the greatest on their profile page.

So anybody can comment on a christian topic but not on an islamic topic, we can't even felicitate with them..

An explaination is needed
.
That's another way of dividing people on religious line and we say we are educated. Why protect or promote the interest of a religion over the other. Let people comment on any religion but should be devoid of insult and attack.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Ayodele92: 11:38am On Jun 07, 2020
It is possible. A clear example is the the former Olubadan of IBADAN Oba Isaac Akinyele, the first president of CAC Worldwide. You can read more about him on Google.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by nairaman66(m): 11:38am On Jun 07, 2020
malvisguy212:
Paul answer this question. Romans 6:2 , “God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin,
live any longer therein?”

This brings us back to the original question- Can a king, governor or senator be a true Christian??
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by banhammy: 11:47am On Jun 07, 2020
Not only politicians, even some of our modern day pastors are not good Christians.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Emusan(m): 11:48am On Jun 07, 2020
Kobojunkie:

Because of Solomons sins against God, and His unrepentance, God raised 3 enemies to aid in taking the land from Solomon's sons

You're the one who added UNREPENTANCE

People go astray many time from God's commandments and God did punish them as sinners won't go without punishment.

But the major points is, did Solomon repent?


This is the plan that God put in place and it came to pass.

Nobody denied this because that was the punishment for his disobedient.

I guess God did not get the memo when Solomon supposedly repented from his sins. And when did Solomon do this, right before or after he decided to go after and kill Jeroboam, one of the men God raised against him? undecided

The fact is that, he wrote the book of Ecclesiastes which is toward the end of his life.

Even the same chapter you're referencing makes it clear in verse 41 that "And the rest of the ACTS of Solomon, and all that he did and His wisdom, are they not written in the book of acts of Solomon?

Which means, many things happen after the narration of Solomon disobedient to God and the book of Ecclesiastes made that plain.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by oloripeter(m): 11:49am On Jun 07, 2020
[color=#000099][/color] it's possible but his rear. Any disciple of Christ which is Christian must know Jesus Christ very well with the help of Holy Spirit not miner saying with mouth
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by miketayo(m): 11:51am On Jun 07, 2020
These days, we have to ask can a pastor be a Christian
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Kobojunkie: 11:51am On Jun 07, 2020
Emusan:

You're the one who added UNREPENTANCE
People go astray many time from God's commandments and God did punish them as sinners won't go without punishment.
But the major points is, did Solomon repent?
Nobody denied this because that was the punishment for his disobedient.
The fact is that, he wrote the book of Ecclesiastes which is toward the end of his life.
Even the same chapter you're referencing makes it clear in verse 41 that "And the rest of the ACTS of Solomon, and all that he did and His wisdom, are they not written in the book of acts of Solomon?
Which means, many things happen after the narration of Solomon disobedient to God and the book of Ecclesiastes made that plain.
I am not playing "guess what happened" with you.

Go back to your Bible and read the book of 1 Kings Chapters 11, 12, and 13. Then come back and tell us that God goofed since God is the one who punished Solomon and his sons for the sins which you pretend that Solomon repented of. In fact, don't tell me -- Tell God that Solomon repented!
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by miketayo(m): 11:59am On Jun 07, 2020
malvisguy212:
the reason is that David hand is stain with blood, he fought war, even God did not choose him to build the temple. Solomon although he is a sinner like his father, but he repented, David repented also. But who am I to choose David when God had chosen Solomon.

God chose David too
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Spectaclesawe25: 12:02pm On Jun 07, 2020
Yes, am a governor of a state and by the grace of God, I am a candidate of heaven.

Am the executive governor of my state in the south western part of the country.

For security reasons, I won't be disclosing which state in particular... But u can all guess the most productive state in the southwest.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by gbengadada2004(m): 12:09pm On Jun 07, 2020
Here is a prominent example of a king who stood for Christ.
OBA AKINYELE
Once upon a time,  a king lived in Nigeria, the Southwestern part,  Ibadan, to be precise. This King stood for Christ and shut the mouth of the devil. 
Oba Sir Isaac Babalola Akinyele, KBE (18 April 1882 – 30 May 1964) was the first educated Olubadan (non-hereditary traditional ruler) of Ibadan, and the second Christian to ascend the throne.
I read about Oba Akinyele, the first CAC (Christ Apostolic Church) President, the king who stopped using his cap.
In those days, no one dared to confront satan or his institutions in the kingdom of Ibadan, the tradition in those days could not outrightly be separated from satanism.
Human sacrifice and other occult practices were very predominant.
The king after accepting Jesus, ordered the abolition of many of the occultic practices.
He stood his ground despite the opposition from almost the whole Ibadan land. He stood for Jesus, believing Him without an iota of doubt.
One day after settling disputes brought to the palace in the presence of the chiefs, unknown to him that charms have been sprinkled on his seat before he came in;
He couldn't stand up from the seat as he was glued to the chair. The chiefs began to mock him. 'Where is your God? but you claimed that He has all powers. Let Him come and rescue you now'
The King looked at them and he started reciting Psalm 24 and at the end, he said "I rise up in the name of Jesus", and moved his body, and immediately the charm was nullified. The chiefs went home ashamed, some of them later gave their lives to Jesus.
Another one was a year that a horse was to convey him to a ceremony, unknown to him, the occults in the city had placed a charm on the horse. They employed drummers who beat the drum with charms to make the horse die while carrying the King.
Actually the standing order was that horse must not fall nor die while conveying the king, else the king would be rejected. The whole city was watching as the horse began to misbehave and started crying with water gushing out of its eyes.
Fear gripped the whole city, the occult men were already jubilating that the king's end has come.
Baba David Babajide and other young evangelists at the scene began to sing...

*"�agbara Re ga ju ti ota lo oooo, imo Re ga  ju tesu lo, Olorun ko seun ti ni o, oso aiye kan kole di o lona ise Re, agbara Re ga ju ti ota lo.�"*

(Meaning ...... "your power is greater than the enemy, your knowledge is higher than the devil. You're the God of all possibilities, no sorcerer can stop you. Your power is greater than the enemy"wink
The crowd chorused the song started by Baba Babajide, dew began to fall during mid day, the horse began to walk majestically, crying like a baby.
When Baba, Oba Akinyele was conveyed to the end and the horse neither fell nor died, the charmers had no choice than to surrender to the Kingship of Jesus and since that day, they stopped attacking Oba Akinyele.
RAW faith provoke RAW miracles.
May we return to this era of tearing down the kingdom of the devil with RAW faith like our fathers of old.

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Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Aystarz: 12:10pm On Jun 07, 2020
ebenhazard:
Impossible but God knows everyone heart



The kingdom of God isn't about Economics, it is about character.

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Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Kobojunkie: 12:11pm On Jun 07, 2020
Spectaclesawe25:
Yes, am a governor of a state and by the grace of God, I am a candidate of heaven.
Am the executive governor of my state in the south western part of the country.
For security reasons, I won't be disclosing which state in particular... But u can all guess the most productive state in the southwest.
The grace of God is not what gets you into heaven though. It is only those who are born again and are righteous that will inherit the kingdom of God. You do not need to wait till after you are dead to know this.
The disciples knew even before Jesus left this earth that they were bound for the Kingdom of Heaven. Even the thief on the cross got the good news. Paul knew long before his death that he was headed there. None of these men were dependent on grace to get them there.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by phemmyfour: 12:13pm On Jun 07, 2020
Kingseex1:
Do you believe any of them can be a true christian and also can a christian attain such position? Using Nigeria as a case study....HAPPY SUNDAY NAIRALANDERS
yes, but he ll surely resign last last ni. We have worthy Kings and politicians in the Bible
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Kingseex1(m): 12:16pm On Jun 07, 2020
SeniorGee:
Absolutely very possible...
My late Pastor was the King in his community before he passed on. When he was approached he gave them the condition that he would rule with the Bible as he was already a pastor then. They agreed and he did rule them. He ruled for 18 yrs and pastored 40yrs before his transition.

name of village and state pls
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by SIRKAY98(m): 12:31pm On Jun 07, 2020
Zchi1052:
A big NO
Take Osibanjo for instance
He's has been silent on what matters most in the country simply because of political interest
He's covering lies and evil act of the demon party "APC"
No dont Judge so that you may not be Judge
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by fmc1(m): 12:34pm On Jun 07, 2020
Very possible, I know a king in ekiti, elesure of esure-ekiti, he is a prophet of God.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by SeniorGee(m): 12:35pm On Jun 07, 2020
Kingseex1:

name of village and state pls

Umunama Autonomous Community, Ezinnihite, IMO State. Passed on 2013
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by kenez2009: 12:41pm On Jun 07, 2020
Mr Obi my Governor is a good example
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Ayt27(m): 12:47pm On Jun 07, 2020
Kobojunkie:

Nope, Solomon died an idol worshipper... sad

Nope he did not he repented in the end.

The ending of the book of Ecclesiastes confirms it as his conclusion. After his search for wisdom and enjoyment of life, he concluded To Fear God, keep his commandments...for it's the duty of a man and God will bring every work hidden or open to Judgement
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Kobojunkie: 12:50pm On Jun 07, 2020
Ayt27:
Nope he did not he repented in the end.

The ending of the book of Ecclesiastes confirms it as his conclusion. After his search for wisdom and enjoyment of life, he concluded To Fear God, keep his commandments...for it's the duty of a man and God will bring every work hidden or open to Judgement
The story of his life is not told in the book of Ecclesiastes which he wrote. Ecclesiastes is not Solomon's autobiography, so let's not make it what it is isn't.
it is instead told in the book of Kings and the book of Chronicles. In the book of 1 Kings 11, 12, and so on, you read of what he did and how God exerted the punishment for his sins on his sons, stripping them of kingship, after Solomon's death.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by farem: 12:56pm On Jun 07, 2020
ebenhazard:
Impossible but God knows everyone heart

Learn to consult dictionary before you use any word
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by redsun(m): 12:56pm On Jun 07, 2020
The same Bible says that you have to be like the little children to see the father. The only one that is heaven is the one that as happy as an innocent child. The pure in heart.

How many are truly pure in heart. And don't forget that the only thing that judges you is your conscience that can't be deceived

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Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Nobody: 12:57pm On Jun 07, 2020
DammyLucy:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SEUN AND OTHER MODS

If this was a topic related to Islam, ppl would be required to make a declaration that allah is the greatest on their profile page.

So anybody can comment on a christian topic but not on an islamic topic, we can't even felicitate with them..

An explaination is needed
.

That's an injustice from the moderators of Nairaland who have a preference for Islam over Christianity. And some Christians on Nairaland don't even care. Seun and Nairaland are biased.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by tosinjay(m): 12:57pm On Jun 07, 2020
Possible and we have an example in Senetor Bwacha of Holiness Revival Movement Worldwide, he has done his restitutions so as i have. He reported himself of the things he did while still in the world but a senator and was forgiven.
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Ezmans: 12:59pm On Jun 07, 2020
malvisguy212:
And he wrote, A man born of woman is of few days. Solomon show a penitent attitudes, he repented. How can you label him a bad character? Who had not sin before?
Any Christian that is into polititics is an enemy of God
Re: Can A King, Governor Or Senator Be A True Christian? by Nobody: 12:59pm On Jun 07, 2020
Kingseex1:
Do you believe any of them can be a true christian and also can a christian attain such position? Using Nigeria as a case study....HAPPY SUNDAY NAIRALANDERS

It's possible and I'm a good example of a true Christian politician.

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