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Xposed2020:
But Jesus pbuh wanted to kill Moses pbuh before prophet Muhammad was born.
Slavery (Galatians 4:1- & Racism got its offshoot from the Bible (Romans 9:6-8; 2Kings 17:15).

You can't claim to read & know the Glorious Qur'an and yet not know how to spell Muhammad pbuh correctly.

fortran12:
Judge by the founders. Did Jesus own slaves did Mohammed own slaves? The followers of Jesus shld behave like Jesus followers of Mohammed shld behave like him. If Mohammed was peaceful his ppl shld be, but was mohammed a peaceful man?

fortran12:
Judge by the founders. Did Jesus own slaves did Mohammed own slaves? The followers of Jesus shld behave like Jesus followers of Mohammed shld behave like him. If Mohammed was peaceful his ppl shld be, but was mohammed a peaceful man?

Xposed2020:
Then I guess Christians should hold the following dearly :-
Leviticus 20:10; [put to death]
Matt 10:34 [came not for peace]
Luke 22:36 [get a sword]
Matt 15:9 [worship in vain]
Luke 2:21-39 [Circumcision of Christ]
2 Chronicles 15:6 [Christ causing trouble]
Exodus 6:20 [Jesus asked Christians to marry their aunt]
Deut 19:32-36 [Daughters sleeping and conceiving for their Fathers was sanctioned by Jesus]
Call you mother "woman" as your lord did.

fortran12:
All you are doing is cherry picking. Whn i quote an Islamic source i put the whole verse. I don't just pick a sentence and claim that is the subject of the text. Always be truthful.
Pls tell me where Jesus was mentioned in the old Testament.
You asked if Jesus was God i said no. So tell me where the name Jesus was mentioned. When quoting say the whole story or summarise.

fortran12:
Let me prove it. God's people were the Jews and Christians, and mohammed claims this same God asked him to wage jihad and enslave these people. Its either Mohammed is lying about God or God is lying. We all know the answer to that.
Mohammed's family were idol worshipers, his father's name was Abdullah - slave of allah. If mohammed revealed allah to the world how come his father's name means slave of Allah? The only possible explanation is that the mohammed's family worshipped allah who was a god in mecca.

fortran12:
That is not the purpose of the jizyah. The pact of umar says otherwise

fortran12:
List the 50 denominations. Anyone can make a claim. Muslims are only there to copy and claim Jesus. I asked a question why is Mohammed trying to reweite Jewish history?

fortran12:
Here is your response

The Revised Standard Version of the Bible, first published on 30 September 1952, ... The purpose of this article is to demonstrate that the ESV is a light revision of the RSV and that, because of the textual basis and translational errors carried over from the RSV, it is not a trustworthy translation of the Bible.
The version that is most popular is the KJV, that is what I use. But if in doubt the text in their original languages still exist. You can check them out. Translations can have mistakes, but the original cannot.

Xposed2020:
Hope it is not the same Umar RA that is been referred to below.

Xposed2020:
You can as well check pg 10 of the publishers note (Dr Collins) of the NRV in the book shop, Church library or from a friend. Because you know Muslims can make a claim as they are there to copy and claim Jesus.



I was only answering your question of providing proof.

fortran12:
I sent you quotes from your book. You're sending me Britannica. Which carries more weight? The pact of Umar was to subjugate the Christians and I have shown you proof from your books

Xposed2020:
If this ain't the origin of racism, then what is it?
God for us All, Everyman for himself.

fortran12:
Well, the general consensus among Christians is that the ESV has errors. So their opinion carries no weight.

fortran12:
So cos God choose to use a group of people to send the messiah means he started racism? Really? Pls prove

Xposed2020:
Tafsir (Preaching).
But they did a more robust research and they are Christians.

Xposed2020:
Jesus!
You mean the words of "God" carries errors.
Damn it!

Xposed2020:
Define Racism.

fortran12:
The trinity all work together and act as one although they are different in nature

fortran12:
God is Trinity. He is made up of his word spirit and him.
Jesus introduced God as father and promised his spirit and Jesus the word all things were created by him - he is the word that came in human flesh

fortran12:
In the beginning.was the word and the word was with God. And the word was God. Means Jesus is the word of God whom through all.things were created.

fortran12:
All you are doing is cherry picking. Whn i quote an Islamic source i put the whole verse. I don't just pick a sentence and claim that is the subject of the text. Always be truthful.
Pls tell me where Jesus was mentioned in the old Testament.
You asked if Jesus was God i said no. So tell me where the name Jesus was mentioned. When quoting say the whole story or summarise.

fortran12:
The word of God is not ESV. ESV is a translation. The original sources still exist. Unlike the Qur'an that claims Allah created the world in 4 days then again he created in less than 4 days.

fortran12:
Let me prove it. God's people were the Jews and Christians, and mohammed claims this same God asked him to wage jihad and enslave these people. Its either Mohammed is lying about God or God is lying. We all know the answer to that.
Mohammed's family were idol worshipers, his father's name was Abdullah - slave of allah. If mohammed revealed allah to the world how come his father's name means slave of Allah? The only possible explanation is that the mohammed's family worshipped allah who was a god in mecca.

fortran12:
So cos God choose to use a group of people to send the messiah means he started racism? Really? Pls prove

fortran12:
Its discrimination against a people. So tell me how this is racism. Jesus was sent to the world. Anyone can be Christian.

fortran12:
Gal 4 vs 1-8 ? Talking about slavery? Pls quote and high light the parts pls. Cos i did not read that in my bible. Pls am waiting. All these you quoted have nothin to do with slavery. No mention of slavery in these parts.i hope you read them.
Mohammed had lots of slaves even took some as sex slaves. The slave he refused to free that he used for the Adhan was an African -Bilal . the same man Mohammed refered to his head that it looks like a resin. Isn't that racism and slavery all rolled in one?

fortran12:
The word of God is not ESV. ESV is a translation. The original sources still exist. Unlike the Qur'an that claims Allah created the world in 4 days then again he created in less than 4 days.

fortran12:
All you are doing is cherry picking. Whn i quote an Islamic source i put the whole verse. I don't just pick a sentence and claim that is the subject of the text. Always be truthful.
Pls tell me where Jesus was mentioned in the old Testament.
You asked if Jesus was God i said no. So tell me where the name Jesus was mentioned. When quoting say the whole story or summarise.

fortran12:
Gal 4 vs 1-8 ? Talking about slavery? Pls quote and high light the parts pls. Cos i did not read that in my bible. Pls am waiting. All these you quoted have nothin to do with slavery. No mention of slavery in these parts.i hope you read them.
Mohammed had lots of slaves even took some as sex slaves. The slave he refused to free that he used for the Adhan was an African -Bilal . the same man Mohammed refered to his head that it looks like a resin. Isn't that racism and slavery all rolled in one?

fortran12:
Gal 4 vs 1-8 ? Talking about slavery? Pls quote and high light the parts pls. Cos i did not read that in my bible. Pls am waiting. All these you quoted have nothin to do with slavery. No mention of slavery in these parts.i hope you read them.
Mohammed had lots of slaves even took some as sex slaves. The slave he refused to free that he used for the Adhan was an African -Bilal . the same man Mohammed refered to his head that it looks like a resin. Isn't that racism and slavery all rolled in one?

fortran12:
The crusades were wrong, but it was a response to the jihad undertaken by the muslims. The muslims conquered spain, turkey, italy until the crusades pushed them back. All these countries did nothing, muslims just fought them to expand their religion, Also the pope does not speak for Christians

fortran12:
But i know Muhammad pbuh asked his guys to kill, he even promised them heaven with sex and wine, just to ginger them

fortran12:
So part of it was to enslave the people and choose the girls as sex slaves (mohammed did these by the way). Also the muslims initieated these wars, just cos the other peoples did not embrace islam. What kind of evangelism is that?

Xposed2020:
Jesus did promote sex slaves.

Xposed2020:
Provide proof.

fortran12:
So what of the part that tells to attack the Jews and Christians?
Mohammed was gentle at the start of his religion, he wanted followers and he even said everyone will goto heaven, when they asked him for a sign or miracle he did not have any to show. Later he turned violent, attacking his city and then attacking his neighbors

fortran12:
All you are doing is cherry picking. Whn i quote an Islamic source i put the whole verse. I don't just pick a sentence and claim that is the subject of the text. Always be truthful.
Pls tell me where Jesus was mentioned in the old Testament.
You asked if Jesus was God i said no. So tell me where the name Jesus was mentioned. When quoting say the whole story or summarise.

fortran12:
But i know Muhammad pbuh asked his guys to kill, he even promised them heaven with sex and wine, just to ginger them

fortran12:
Battle of Tabuk, he said to him: “O Abu Wahb, would you not like to have SCORES OF BYZANTINE WOMEN AND MEN AS CONCUBINES AND SERVANTS?” He said: “O Messenger of Allah, my people know that I am very fond of women and, if I see the women of the Byzantines, I fear I will not be able to hold back. SO DO NOT TEMPT ME BY THEM, and allow me not to join and, instead, I will assist you with my wealth”
Am sure u know where this is from