Agboriotejoye:


I have not seen a picture of him on his knees begging those you mentioned above. If you have let me see it. That said, it's a true m rudimentary tactic in war to woo as many people to your side as possible. That's not called begging. That's called politicking and diplomacy.
What is not in doubt is that he's giving oshiomole a good fight, such that even if he loses, at least everyone knows how it all went down.
That's what I expect you as a youth to learn. There's no shame in losing. It's how you lose that makes the difference.
People like you might have even accused Mohammed lawal of blessed memory of being a fool for fighting late Saraki. I'm sure twelve years down the line, we can all see who lost more between him and Kwara state.

Let Obaseki stay in Edo and fight instead of turning himself into Christopher Columbus.

There is a very fine line between this diplomacy and begging. The man Is begging period.

Also if Obaseki has 99 percent of the assembly members against him like Ambode, he would have long gone to sleep.

Philistine:

Mr.Martins, So you also engage in all this Nairaland tribalistic tantrums? I actually thought you were matured. Goodluck.

As a matter of fact, I respect his opinion alot..... Seeing his comment made me realise I'm hugely mistaken after all. He isn't enlightened as much as I placed him

Junketing obaseki should know that it doesn't matter what he does he cannot retain his seat at Government House Benin City..

martineverest:
I'm not TRIBALISTIC

My dear brother, if you are being respected cos of huge contribution you make on issues, guard it well and take time b4 U comment on controversial topics, U could have passed ur message without making comments against anoda whichever form it is
Ur comment alone will go a long way 2 affect how you will be portrayed most especially by secret admirers of your wisdom.... Be guided

ddippset:
Let Obaseki stay in Edo and fight instead of turning himself into Christopher Columbus.

There is a very fine line between this diplomacy and begging. The man Is begging period.

Also if Obaseki has 99 percent of the assembly members against him like Ambode, he would have long gone to sleep.

I'm sure you're not the referee to decide the rules for him to use in fighting his personal battles. Just because he didn't lick oshiomole's boots as you would prefer does not mean he can't get others on his side. Reading igbokwe's piece on obaseki's visit to Tinubu, it's easy to see it was not a begging mission as you put it.
Maybe it shows Edo politicians are made of much sterner stuff than the herd mentality that exists in Lagos. You really can't blame obaseki if Lagos politicians decide to line up behind Tinubu. Everything is based on choice

bright007:
Obaseki is a man that wont go down easily. I like him for that.

He is unlike some ex governor that is now being used as a standard for cowardice.


Edo is not like Lagos

You sure say this your Obaseki is fighting anything? I just see him confusing himself up and down

Agboriotejoye:

I'm sure you're not the referee to decide the rules for him to use in fighting his personal battles. Just because he didn't lick oshiomole's boots as you would prefer does not mean he can't get others on his side. Reading igbokwe's piece on obaseki's visit to Tinubu, it's easy to see it was not a begging mission as you put it.
Maybe it shows Edo politicians are made of much sterner stuff than the herd mentality that exists in Lagos. You really can't blame obaseki if Lagos politicians decide to line up behind Tinubu. Everything is based on choice

Firstly the initial battle between Obaseki and Oshiomole was the battle for THE APC TICKET.

Obaseki's battle was to clinch the APC TICKET that is why he tried to remove Adams as APC chair.

Do you agree that Obaseki has lost the battle to Oshomole?

The issue of the PDP ticket is a different ball game entirely.

Obaseki has lost the first battle to Oshiomole.

DO YOU AGREE?


Obaseki could never have acted like Ambode because as you always say;

Edo is not Lagos
Oshiomole is not Tinubu

Tinubu has held Lagos for 25 years.
Oshiomole held Edo for only 8 years.

If Obaseki was in Lagos and he was Ambode he wouldn't do better.

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Samjojo16:


My dear brother, if you are being respected cos of huge contribution you make on issues, guard it well and take time b4 U comment on controversial topics, U could have passed ur message without making comments against anoda whichever form it is
Ur comment alone will go a long way 2 affect how you will be portrayed most especially by secret admirers of your wisdom.... Be guided

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ddippset:
Firstly the initial battle between Obaseki and Oshiomole was the battle for THE APC TICKET.

Obaseki's battle was to clinch the APC TICKET that is why he tried to remove Adams as APC chair.

Do you agree that Obaseki has lost the battle to Oshomole?

The issue of the PDP ticket is a different ball game entirely.

Obaseki has lost the first battle to Oshiomole.

DO YOU AGREE?


Obaseki could never have acted like Ambode because as you always say;

Edo is not Lagos
Oshiomole is not Tinubu

Tinubu has held Lagos for 25 years.
Oshiomole held Edo for only 8 years.

If Obaseki was in Lagos and he was Ambode he wouldn't do better.

Seems you didn't read my first post. Of course he lost. There's no shame in losing. The shame is in abandoning your dignity and begging which would have still led to the same result anyway like Ambode's case showed. No godfather wants a godson to achieve like him. Go and check it. Tinubu never wanted Fashola to do a second term. I hope you know that. OBJ who played a major role in enthroning GEJ played a major role in his downfall in 2015. There's nothing a godson can do to be perfect in a godfather's eyes to warrant a second term.

Ambode couldn't stand up to Tinubu because he put all his eggs in Tinubu's basket. Heck even his deputy couldn't support him.
Edo not being Lagos is not Obaseki's fault. It's the fault of Lagos politicians who have chosen to feed from Tinubu's hands like a bunch of chickens. You can't decide what Obaseki's response would be if he were in Lagos. What we know from what we've seen is that he's putting up a fight which Ambode did not do.

P.S. Tinubu held Lagos for 8 years too except you mean the others he enthroned at which oshiomole's count will also go up to 12. Mind you, oshiomole fought bigger fishes to "take over" Edo state which Tinubu never had to do in wrapping Lagos inside moin moin leaves.

9jayes:


Sentiment apart, he has done nothing to deserve the second term.

Do you reside in edo.

Agboriotejoye:

Seems you didn't read my first post. Of course he lost. There's no shame in losing. The shame is in abandoning your dignity and begging which would have still led to the same result anyway like Ambode's case showed. No godfather wants a godson to achieve like him. Go and check it. Tinubu never wanted Fashola to do a second term. I hope you know that. OBJ who played a major role in enthroning GEJ played a major role in his downfall in 2015. There's nothing a godson can do to be perfect in a godfather's eyes to warrant a second term.

Ambode couldn't stand up to Tinubu because he put all his eggs in Tinubu's basket. Heck even his deputy couldn't support him.
Edo not being Lagos is not Obaseki's fault. It's the fault of Lagos politicians who have chosen to feed from Tinubu's hands like a bunch of chickens. You can't decide what Obaseki's response would be if he were in Lagos. What we know from what we've seen is that he's putting up a fight which Ambode did not do.

P.S. Tinubu held Lagos for 8 years too except you mean the others he enthroned at which oshiomole's count will also go up to 12. Mind you, oshiomole fought bigger fishes to "take over" Edo state which Tinubu never had to do in wrapping Lagos inside moin moin leaves.

Tinubu has been running Lagos since 1999.
That's 21 years my bad. So his influence is extra ordinary, it even transcends the whole of the South West.

In terms of political influence, Tinubu is almost to SW what Buhari Is to the North.

Comparing Oshiomole's Godfather rep to Tinubu's Godfather rep is like comparing Nigeria to America or comparing Giroud to Messi or comparing 1 million naira to 1 million dollars.

In terms of percentages I would say;

Obaseki to Oshimole is like 40 to 60.
Ambode to Tinubu is like 10 to 90.

Sensible People take on opponents they have a chance against. Only foolish people go up against an opponent they have no chance against; like Bash Ali challenging Mike Tyson to a heavy weight bout.

Obaseki going against Oshiomole is not close to standing up to a bully or having big balls.

There is not a gulf in power between them. Oshiomole was there for 8 and Obaseki for 4.

Besides Obaseki has always had the superiority complex that the Benin people of the Centre think that they have got over the Etsako people of the North.
I could imagine a number of Benin people telling him "how can you let a minority Etsako man control you"

In summary;

Edo is not Lagos
Adams is not Tinubu

Obaseki versus Oshiomole is like Neymar versus Messi
While;

Ambode versus Tinubu is like Tammy Abraham versus Messi.

They are not the same!

ddippset:
Tinubu has been running Lagos since 1999.
That's 21 years my bad. So his influence is extra ordinary, it even transcends the whole of the South West.

In terms of political influence, Tinubu is almost to SW what Buhari Is to the North.

Comparing Oshiomole's Godfather rep to Tinubu's Godfather rep is like comparing Nigeria to America or comparing Giroud to Messi or comparing 1 million naira to 1 million dollars.

In terms of percentages I would say;

Obaseki to Oshimole is like 40 to 60.
Ambode to Tinubu is like 10 to 90.

Sensible People take on opponents they have a chance against. Only foolish people go up against an opponent they have no chance against; like Bash Ali challenging Mike Tyson to a heavy weight bout.

Obaseki going against Oshiomole is not close to standing up to a bully or having big balls.

There is not a gulf in power between them. Oshiomole was there for 8 and Obaseki for 4.

Besides Obaseki has always had the superiority complex that the Benin people of the Centre think that they have got over the Etsako people of the North.
I could imagine a number of Benin people telling him "how can you let a minority Etsako man control you"

In summary;

Edo is not Lagos
Adams is not Tinubu

Obaseki versus Oshiomole is like Neymar versus Messi
While;

Ambode versus Tinubu is like Tammy Abraham versus Messi.

They are not the same!

You seem to now agree that Obaseki was right to take up a fight against Oshiomole. One wonders why you've been mocking him for taking that position previously, though it's good you've arrived at where you are now no matter how long it took you.

Now let's look at the Ambode vs Tinubu scenario. First of, let it be known that Tinubu holds massive influence in Lagos especially and only a modicum or should I say tidbit influence in the rest of the SW. Let's look at the facts

Ogun APC. Dapo Abiodun's victory can be given to Tinubu but not that of his predecessor Amosun who has always been popular in Ogun and served as a senator under ANPP
Oyo. PDP. Definitely no Tinubu here. His predecessor Ajimobi chose to align with Tinubu but was never a Tinubu boy being of the ANPP stock. He was senator 2003-7 under ANPP
Osun. APC. Tinubu might be said to be very influential here but that is due to Aregbesola's influence not himself. As Aregbe's influence wittles, so will Tinubu's too.
Ondo APC. Of course everyone knows Aketi has no business with Tinubu. He is his own man anyday anytime. PDP even won the presidential in that state.
Ekiti. APC. JKF used to be aligned to Tinubu from their NADECO days but has since parted ways when Tinubu overreached himself.

Note that Akeredolu is SW governors' forum chairman while JKF is NGF chairman. Both are not answerable to Tinubu so you can see that while Tinubu has influence in the SW, it's not almost equal with Buhari's in the north. It's very far from it.

Now to the Ambode matter. While it's no secret that Tinubu installed Ambode governor in 2015, it's also obvious that Ambode never had a base of his own neither did he sought to have one. He was simply banking on being a good boy and getting the blessing of Baba to do his 8 years. Note that in all the sins he was reputed to have committed, going against Tinubu was never part of it. Which begs the question why Tinubu did not support him for a second term. The answer is simple. Forget all the ramblings around. Tinubu has a lot of interests to satisfy to keep his house intact. So it will be hard for him to just seat by for 8 years for someone to be governor. He must make sure all his troops are in steady state. If Ambode had warmed himself into the minds of some of those interests before 2019, believe me, Tinubu won't have been able to stop him. Same happened with Fashola but Tinubu had to slow down when it was obvious other blocs under him were all for Fashola's continuance. That's where Ambode failed. He believed too much in Tinubu and same failed him at the critical moment as godfathers are wont to do.
That's why I said Ambode is the harbinger of his own downfall by putting all his eggs in Tinubu's basket.

Besides that, it beggars belief why a politically enlightened fellow like you will be in support of godfatherism. Let me ask. Do you really think godfatherism can bring the kind of positive development we all hope for in this country? If so, can you show an example of godfatherism that benefitted the state in the long run?

9jayes:


Sentiment apart, he has done nothing to deserve the second term.

That is because osho over loot edo funds,then used obaseki to cover up is mess.

Agboriotejoye:


You seem to now agree that Obaseki was right to take up a fight against Oshiomole. One wonders why you've been mocking him for taking that position previously, though it's good you've arrived at where you are now no matter how long it took you.

Now let's look at the Ambode vs Tinubu scenario. First of, let it be known that Tinubu holds massive influence in Lagos especially and only a modicum or should I say tidbit influence in the rest of the SW. Let's look at the facts

Ogun APC. Dapo Abiodun's victory can be given to Tinubu but not that of his predecessor Amosun who has always been popular in Ogun and served as a senator under ANPP
Oyo. PDP. Definitely no Tinubu here. His predecessor Ajimobi chose to align with Tinubu but was never a Tinubu boy being of the ANPP stock. He was senator 2003-7 under ANPP
Osun. APC. Tinubu might be said to be very influential here but that is due to Aregbesola's influence not himself. As Aregbe's influence wittles, so will Tinubu's too.
Ondo APC. Of course everyone knows Aketi has no business with Tinubu. He is his own man anyday anytime. PDP even won the presidential in that state.
Ekiti. APC. JKF used to be aligned to Tinubu from their NADECO days but has since parted ways when Tinubu overreached himself.

Note that Akeredolu is SW governors' forum chairman while JKF is NGF chairman. Both are not answerable to Tinubu so you can see that while Tinubu has influence in the SW, it's not almost equal with Buhari's in the north. It's very far from it.

Now to the Ambode matter. While it's no secret that Tinubu installed Ambode governor in 2015, it's also obvious that Ambode never had a base of his own neither did he sought to have one. He was simply banking on being a good boy and getting the blessing of Baba to do his 8 years. Note that in all the sins he was reputed to have committed, going against Tinubu was never part of it. Which begs the question why Tinubu did not support him for a second term. The answer is simple. Forget all the ramblings around. Tinubu has a lot of interests to satisfy to keep his house intact. So it will be hard for him to just seat by for 8 years for someone to be governor. He must make sure all his troops are in steady state. If Ambode had warmed himself into the minds of some of those interests before 2019, believe me, Tinubu won't have been able to stop him. Same happened with Fashola but Tinubu had to slow down when it was obvious other blocs under him were all for Fashola's continuance. That's where Ambode failed. He believed too much in Tinubu and same failed him at the critical moment as godfathers are wont to do.
That's why I said Ambode is the harbinger of his own downfall by putting all his eggs in Tinubu's basket.

Besides that, it beggars belief why a politically enlightened fellow like you will be in support of godfatherism. Let me ask. Do you really think godfatherism can bring the kind of positive development we all hope for in this country? If so, can you show an example of godfatherism that benefitted the state in the long run?

Just to pick on a few points.

Ambode didn't have a base because he had an extremely powerful Godfather.

The more powerful the godfather the less powerful the godson.

Also the less powerful the godfather the more powerful the godson.

It is most definitely an inverse relationship.


I am definitely not in support of Godfatherism.

What I am against is spiting the godfather and celebrating the godson.

Like I've always maintained there would be godfathers if people are not willing to be Godsons.

We have Godfathers in the system because they cut corners and do illegal things to install their Godsons and the Godsons enjoy it all.

And make no mistakes about it;
You hear Obaseki telling us that his quarrel with Oshiomole is because Oshiomole wants him to share Edo money with him but he wants to use Edo money to develop Edo date.

Take it from me that is nonsense!

Obaseki is refusing to share money to Oshiomole, very true.
But Obaseki himself has definitely formed another group of people that he is sharing Edo money to.

He has started forming his own political dynasty and grooming Godsons.

Don't let any governor or politician tell you that "they told me to share money and I refused."

Trust me He is sharing it somewhere else!

ddippset:
Just to pick on a few points.

Ambode didn't have a base because he had an extremely powerful Godfather.

The more powerful the godfather the less powerful the godson.

Also the less powerful the godfather the more powerful the godson.

It is most definitely an inverse relationship.


I am definitely not in support of Godfatherism.

What I am against is spiting the godfather and celebrating the godson.

Like I've always maintained there would be godfathers if people are not willing to be Godsons.

We have Godfathers in the system because they cut corners and do illegal things to install their Godsons and the Godsons enjoy it all.

And make no mistakes about it;
You hear Obaseki telling us that his quarrel with Oshiomole is because Oshiomole wants him to share Edo money with him but he wants to use Edo money to develop Edo date.

Take it from me that is nonsense!

Obaseki is refusing to share money to Oshiomole, very true.
But Obaseki himself has definitely formed another group of people that he is sharing Edo money to.

He has started forming his own political dynasty and grooming Godsons.

Don't let any governor or politician tell you that "they told me to share money and I refused."

Trust me He is sharing it somewhere else!

I don't agree with that relationship. Ambode had no base because he chose not to. Have you asked yourself why Ambode failed where Fashola succeeded? Do you realize the present Dep gov in Lagos is from not from Tinubu's camp? Having a base does not necessarily mean you dislodge your godfather. It means you have your own men who can swim or sink with you. I tell you, Ambode banked his ambition on Tinubu. He fought, maligned and alienated everyone thinking that at the appropriate time, Tinubu will give him a go ahead for being a good boy regardless of how he's treated others. That's why Tinubu made the statement that "no more Baba s'ope". If Ambode had Fashola or Muiz Banire's group by his side at least, he would have something to bank on when Tinubu turned against him. Go and check his moves when it became obvious Tinubu was not going to endorse him flatly. He started doing what he ought to have started his govt with.

You seem to blame godsons for the existence of godfathers. Again, that's wrong. I think you should agree there's nothing basically wrong in approaching a superior mortal for help in achieving a goal. We all do it in life to get ahead. More sweeter if the mortal chooses you by himself as his favourite. Where it turns sour is after you get there and the fellow wants you to become his puppet whereby you can do nothing without his consent. Only a dummy will allow that. That's what godfatherism entails. No one can call Buhari a godfather in the north because while most of the govs ascended by virtue of his popularity in 2015, he did not go about petering them since then. Instead he left them to do as they deem fit and answer to the electorates. I hope you can then see the difference between a Tinubu and a Buhari who is even more influential.

If Obaseki chooses to share Edo money, he should answer to the electorates and not to Oshiomole. If Oshiomole gets rid of him, it's obvious then that whoever replaces him has no choice but to share Edo money to Oshiomole. In that scenario, I think it is preferable to have Obaseki share the money elsewhere than to keep feeding Oshiomole who has already fed himself for eight years. If it's chop I chop politics we want then let it go round. No one should have monopoly of the cake!!

Agboriotejoye:

I don't agree with that relationship. Ambode had no base because he chose not to. Have you asked yourself why Ambode failed where Fashola succeeded? Do you realize the present Dep gov in Lagos is from not from Tinubu's camp? Having a base does not necessarily mean you dislodge your godfather. It means you have your own men who can swim or sink with you. I tell you, Ambode banked his ambition on Tinubu. He fought, maligned and alienated everyone thinking that at the appropriate time, Tinubu will give him a go ahead for being a good boy regardless of how he's treated others. That's why Tinubu made the statement that "no more Baba s'ope". If Ambode had Fashola or Muiz Banire's group by his side at least, he would have something to bank on when Tinubu turned against him. Go and check his moves when it became obvious Tinubu was not going to endorse him flatly. He started doing what he ought to have started his govt with.

You seem to blame godsons for the existence of godfathers. Again, that's wrong. I think you should agree there's nothing basically wrong in approaching a superior mortal for help in achieving a goal. We all do it in life to get ahead. More sweeter if the mortal chooses you by himself as his favourite. Where it turns sour is after you get there and the fellow wants you to become his puppet whereby you can do nothing without his consent. Only a dummy will allow that. That's what godfatherism entails. No one can call Buhari a godfather in the north because while most of the govs ascended by virtue of his popularity in 2015, he did not go about petering them since then. Instead he left them to do as they deem fit and answer to the electorates. I hope you can then see the difference between a Tinubu and a Buhari who is even more influential.

If Obaseki chooses to share Edo money, he should answer to the electorates and not to Oshiomole. If Oshiomole gets rid of him, it's obvious then that whoever replaces him has no choice but to share Edo money to Oshiomole. In that scenario, I think it is preferable to have Obaseki share the money elsewhere than to keep feeding Oshiomole who has already fed himself for eight years. If it's chop I chop politics we want then let it go round. No one should have monopoly of the cake!!

This is getting into a cyclic conversation.

Lastly;

When I say Obaseki is sharing money I am not talking about the masses who don't have jobs and can't feed.

I am talking about cronies, family and friends who are already worth billions.

Obaseki is a typical example of politicians who will be chopping at the same time screaming and playing victim.
I'm not falling for it.

ddippset:
This is getting into a cyclic conversation.

Lastly;

When I say Obaseki is sharing money I am not talking about the masses who don't have jobs and can't feed.

I am talking about cronies, family and friends who are already worth billions.

Obaseki is a typical example of politicians who will be chopping at the same time screaming and playing victim.
I'm not falling for it.

And Oshiomole? Is he any better?
Did he not also do same when he was there? Does it not amount to barefaced hypocrisy to praise Oshiomole for ending the Anenih and Ogbemudia dynasties and starting his with Kabaka and Co while flogging Obaseki for trying to do same? Does Oshiomole have a license to loot that Obaseki does not have?
Note that I have chosen not to contest your accusations against Obaseki but showed you that you can't denounce Obaseki while supporting Oshiomole using your logic. It amounts to barefaced, lily-livered hypocrisy.
Oshiomole in 2010 and 2014 praised then President Jonathan for not interfering in Edo state by supporting Anenih &co with federal might. It's that same federal might that he is intending to use against Obaseki now.

Battle line is drawn

Agboriotejoye:

And Oshiomole? Is he any better?
Did he not also do same when he was there? Does it not amount to barefaced hypocrisy to praise Oshiomole for ending the Anenih and Ogbemudia dynasties and starting his with Kabaka and Co while flogging Obaseki for trying to do same? Does Oshiomole have a license to loot that Obaseki does not have?
Note that I have chosen not to contest your accusations against Obaseki but showed you that you can't denounce Obaseki while supporting Oshiomole using your logic. It amounts to barefaced, lily-livered hypocrisy.
Oshiomole in 2010 and 2014 praised then President Jonathan for not interfering in Edo state by supporting Anenih &co with federal might. It's that same federal might that he is intending to use against Obaseki now.

lol

I really don't see why you getting a bit edgy and insultive.

Point out the place where I supported Oshiomole?

Where in all my posts did I support Oshiomole's Godfatherism?
I didn't not say anything about Adams, I am only against demonizing Adams to pamper Obaseki in one fell swoop.

Relax man, they don't know us both. No one is paying us.

Relax!!

amidel:
Obaseki will win the election.
He'll decamp and All southern governors will back him and the will of the Edo people will prevail.
Case closed .

All southern GovernorsThe way you guys reason !!!

ddippset:
lol

I really don't see why you getting a bit edgy and insultive.

Point out the place where I supported Oshiomole?

Where in all my posts did I support Oshiomole's Godfatherism?
I didn't not say anything about Adams, I am only against demonizing Adams to pamper Obaseki in one fell swoop.

Relax man, they don't know us both. No one is paying us.

Relax!!

Bros i'm relaxed. But there's no middle ground here. You can't castigate Obaseki and claim not to support Oshiomole. That's the hypocrisy i'm talking about in full glare again.
I'm sorry if I sound insulting but I am most peeved when I see enlightened youths support an oppressor against the oppressed. Why don't you think about it this way. If an Oshiomole/Tinubu exists in every state and at the national, that means that you, sir, have to be in their good books to ever stand a chance of having a shot at your state's governorship for example. In other words, you have to have a chance to meet him to ever be able to dream of becoming governor in your state. If he ever meets you and just doesn't like your face, it means your dream is dead before it even had a chance to live. In other words, your chance of becoming governor is not based on your capability or the superiority of your ideas. Your fight should be for a just and egalitarian society not a feudal one. But antagonizing Obaseki is antagonizing yourself too bro. Except you're in the inner circle already.
Don't give me that excuse of Obaseki is already grooming a godson to become a godfather either. There's no evidence to that. Let's deal with what we have on ground first before we start thinking of what comes next. Democracy gives a chance of a change every four years. So Obaseki too can succeed if he tries that anytime he wants to if we the people let him. If we let Oshiomole however, then the door becomes shut. We have to make sure we keep that door open for anyone. Just like in the US that has produced the Kennedys, Carters, Clintons, Obamas and now Trump.

tipscogreen:

Good steps in the right direction. Benue state governor suppose to be your next point of call.

Oyo,sokoto, zamfara, bayelsa governor, fashola and ex-president obasanjo.

After they have been policing interstate border closures. Ok

Agboriotejoye:


Bros i'm relaxed. But there's no middle ground here. You can't castigate Obaseki and claim not to support Oshiomole. That's the hypocrisy i'm talking about in full glare again.
I'm sorry if I sound insulting but I am most peeved when I see enlightened youths support an oppressor against the oppressed. Why don't you think about it this way. If an Oshiomole/Tinubu exists in every state and at the national, that means that you, sir, have to be in their good books to ever stand a chance of having a shot at your state's governorship for example. In other words, you have to have a chance to meet him to ever be able to dream of becoming governor in your state. If he ever meets you and just doesn't like your face, it means your dream is dead before it even had a chance to live. In other words, your chance of becoming governor is not based on your capability or the superiority of your ideas. Your fight should be for a just and egalitarian society not a feudal one. But antagonizing Obaseki is antagonizing yourself too bro. Except you're in the inner circle already.
Don't give me that excuse of Obaseki is already grooming a godson to become a godfather either. There's no evidence to that. Let's deal with what we have on ground first before we start thinking of what comes next. Democracy gives a chance of a change every four years. So Obaseki too can succeed if he tries that anytime he wants to if we the people let him. If we let Oshiomole however, then the door becomes shut. We have to make sure we keep that door open for anyone. Just like in the US that has produced the Kennedys, Carters, Clintons, Obamas and now Trump.

You guys have been going in circle. The real kennel of the issue has not been highlighted. Lets look at different scenarios:

1. A performing Governor will eventually wriggle himself free of an overbearing godfather who does not mean well for the state. e.g Ngige fought the Mbas to a standstill. Fashola had to bring Tinubu to see reason. If Tinubu did not bend, he would have lost his popularity.

2. A non-performing governor creates a lot of noise in the system irrespective of the position of the godfather. If the, godfather even though corrupt, does not agree with him, he will be toasted. Ambode did not stand a change because he tried to uproot everything put in place by Tinubu/Fashola that got Lagos working. He was trying to create his own empire by sidelining the powerful forces in Lagos. He had the gut to boastfully promise to retire Tinubu from politics. The power Lagos kingmakers make things work but also fill their till in the process. He sidelined them and was also not clean himself. That is a very dangerous expedition cause they had their satellite on him. So a lot of stuffs were unearthed against him. You cannot block where powerful men dey chop, come create your chopping line. You block them and better plan to be as clean as a whistle yourself. Even then, you are not completely safe.

3. A non-performing Governor with weak godfather that is against him. that was the case of Othom and Akume. While Othom can easily be crowned as the worst governor 2015-2019, his godfather was too weak to remove him. No progressive force had the energy to take him out. He survived

4. A performing governor with a strong godfather that supports him: no need to discuss this, we will not hear any noise, and there will be progress. We may not even know there are godfathers. Many northern governors doing well fall into this bracket

In all, Obaseki faith is actually hinged on his performances and how he has related with the powerful forces in Edo state. The last I had, he had been working very hard to uproot almost all the powerful forces that brought him to power. Left for a godfather alone, many governors cannot just be shoved off easily. I think beyond Oshomole, the guy had done very badly and even tried many times to remove Oshomole from his position, asking that he be arrested. And that is how he also demolished and attacked well known Edo politicians destroying their properties and running many of them out of the state. I don't know if he was creating any powerful base while at it. So as far as I can see, Osho will not relent on his fight against him purely for revenge. But if he did well in every other areas, he has no fears even if he gets on the back of AA party.

Summary is that, we should stop demonising godfathers. They are acting naturally. If they influence you getting there, they will definitely fight back when maligned. This is absolutely natural. So you either kowtow to them or work very hard to win the mind of the people and secure a freedom. But if your ways are not pure, you can easily be dislodged and many will not come to your aid.

Arizonaguy:
Are you edo people?? speak for yourself
Btw your vote is inconsequential

lol i hope u and oshio have learnt ur lessons

fistonme:



So na shaba and Ebo boys come dey treat drivers and market women well? my bro, we are happy he should leave. By September we will collect the position back from pdp. Then he will know the real difference between politics calculation and political show/advert.

lol i hope u and oshio have learnt ur lessons

SirBunky85:
but u will surrender ur state treasury to the pdp godfathers abi?you think d pdp can give him ticket without collecting so much money from him abi?you guys are so gullible

lol i hope u and ur gullible oshio have learnt ur lessons

ybalogs:
we Sha like to dey deceive ourselves

lol i hope u and oshio have learnt ur lessons

romenna:
lol i hope u and ur gullible oshio have learnt ur lessons

self delusion is okay