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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:55am On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


Is God's Kingdom that John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and his Apostles preached here or were still expecting it? smiley

now to the question that so duh false jw tatime of course lied again and said i wouldn't answer
and that fearfully anxious mad max pestering me to answer while i'm replying to their other moronic posts







oh duh dimwit false jw's,

the Kingdom is here now, and the Kingdom is coming in it's fullness
oh know nothing mad max and siamese twin paranoid tatime

Luk_17:21  Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Mat 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 
Mat 6:10  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:55am On Jun 18, 2020
johnw47:


cheesy oh fearrful false jw's mad max and tatime, truly when i get to the post i will reply

do you mob seriously think this christian won't reply to you and run away like you do

funny

So what's your answer?

John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and the first century Christians preached that God's Kingdom is NEAR, has the kingdom come or we're still expecting it? smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:56am On Jun 18, 2020
How difficult is it to write a religious book.

All you need is a God give him a unique name (Zeus, Yahweh, Odin), then an evil (Satan, devil, Hades) this God can destroy easily but because of plot, if the evil is defeated the story end, no villain no story.

A protagonist (Jesus, Hercule, Perseus) every one can relate to, preferably half man, half God, he is born of a woman but from God, he will have a lot of struggle and challenge just like humans, but at the end will awake as a God and save his people.

Make your religion feel special, do this by insulting other religion, and any one not believing in the story names if ridicule, or names that shows lack of intelligence, fool, sinners, infidel, get creative you can even make a new word.


The promise of a better life on earth and after death, you can call it heaven, paradise, afterlife, and reincarnation, any one who refuse to join this religion will be going to Hell, Hades, die and turn to dust, or faces karma.

That's just some basic point, I'm sure you get it.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:56am On Jun 18, 2020
2 more pages and I'm out of here.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 10:01am On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


So what's your answer?

John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and the first century Christians preached that God's Kingdom is NEAR, has the kingdom come or we're still expecting it? smiley

laughing, i'm nothing like you run run run run runaway scardy cat mad max
you can truly believe that i will reply to you even without me telliing you i will

hard for you to believe isn't it fearful one:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:07am On Jun 18, 2020
johnw47:


now to the question that so duh false jw tatime of course lied again and said i wouldn't answer
and that fearfully anxious mad max pestering me to answer while i'm replying to their other moronic posts







oh duh dimwit false jw's,

the Kingdom is here now, and the Kingdom is coming in it's fullness
oh know nothing mad max and siamese twin paranoid tatime

Luk_17:21  Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Mat 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 
Mat 6:10  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

OK so God's Kingdom is here now, so the will of God is what is happening on earth today just as it's happening in heaven shey? undecided

Paul mentioned so many characters that we'll not be experiencing when God's kingdom is hear {Galatians 5:19-21} just as David prophesied that the wicked will be no more and we won't see them again with their evil deeds {Psalms 37:7-11} are you now saying that the
©Pandemics {Psalms 67:6-7}
©Rapings {Proverbs 2:20-22}
©Killings {Isaiah 11:9}
©Bad government {Daniel 2:44}
©Deaths {Isaiah 25:8}
Happening now are all part of God's will that's also taking place in heaven? Matthew 6:10 undecided

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:11am On Jun 18, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
2 more pages and I'm out of here.

Don't run away yet, your friend also claims to believe in God, why not cure his so called delusion before going to help others?
After all you've both become friends because of Maximus69! Luke 23:12

So don't run away, try to distinguish between the deluded and those having a focus Sir! wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 10:16am On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


OK so God's Kingdom is here now, so the will of God is what is happening on earth today just as it's happening in heaven shey? undecided

Paul mentioned so many characters that we'll not be experiencing when God's kingdom is hear {Galatians 5:19-21} just as David prophesied that the wicked will be no more and we won't see them again with their evil deeds {Psalms 37:7-11} are you now saying that the
©Pandemics {Psalms 67:6-7}
©Rapings {Proverbs 2:20-22}
©Killings {Isaiah 11:9}
©Bad government {Daniel 2:44}
©Deaths {Isaiah 25:8}
Happening now are all part of God's will that's also taking place in heaven? Matthew 6:10 undecided
oh duh confused know nothing mad max

the Kingdom is here residing in believers

the Kingdom in it's full is coming

of course you don't believe the verses i posted oh heap big antichristian
read it again mumu:

johnw47:


now to the question that so duh false jw tatime of course lied again and said i wouldn't answer
and that fearfully anxious mad max pestering me to answer while i'm replying to their other moronic posts







oh duh dimwit false jw's,

the Kingdom is here now, and the Kingdom is coming in it's fullness
oh know nothing mad max and siamese twin paranoid tatime

Luk_17:21  Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Mat 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 
Mat 6:10  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 10:26am On Jun 18, 2020
where is maxine and tatine, somewhere holding hands i guess smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:36am On Jun 18, 2020
johnw47:

oh duh confused know nothing mad max

the Kingdom is here residing in believers

the Kingdom in it's full is coming

of course you don't believe the verses i posted oh heap big antichristian
read it again mumu:




Jesus said "the kingdom of God is IN YOUR MIDST" indicating that whoever wants to enter must accept his teachings.

Jesus was speaking to a crowd that very day, Pharisees Saddusees Scribes Priests and others religious teachers were present of course the Kingdom of God can't reside in the minds of those murderous religionists nah! embarassed

So i agreed with the interpretation of the NWT that says the kingdom of God is IN YOUR MIDST rather than KJV'S WITHIN YOU that doesn't make any practical sense! smiley

Therefore Mr johnw47 it's obvious you don't know the meaning of God's Kingdom Sir! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:08am On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


Jesus said "the kingdom of God is IN YOUR MIDST" indicating that whoever wants to enter must accept his teachings.

Jesus was speaking to a crowd that very day, Pharisees Saddusees Scribes Priests and others religious teachers were present of course the Kingdom of God can't reside in the minds of those murderous religionists nah! embarassed

So i agreed with the interpretation of the NWT that says the kingdom of God is IN YOUR MIDST rather than KJV'S WITHIN YOU that doesn't make any practical sense! smiley

Therefore Mr johnw47 it's obvious you don't know the meaning of God's Kingdom Sir! smiley

mad max it's obvious you know nothing

oh duh know nothing lying phrisee false jw mad max

truly the Kingdom is in believers

these verses show that Jesus is the Kingdom of God:

Luk 10:9  And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

Mat 12:28  But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.




and Jesus the Kingdom of God abodes in believers, not in you satans mob of course, but in christians
you know absolutely nothing about that, you are so duh mad max, aren't you
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:12am On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


He wish to be a Christian but lacks the guts, he can't discuss mildly without being radical.
Satan has blinded all of them with just one single word "Armageddon".
When John the baptist came he never told anyone Jesus is the name of the one coming after him, when Jesus came he never told anyone Apostles will succeed him, when Apostle John wrote the book of Revelations he never told anyone that Jehovah's Witnesses will be the name of the group that will continue the message in the last days.
So the word "Armageddon" is what is blurring their senses, had it been we say "Jesus is coming with his heavenly armies to destroy wicked people and those forcefully ruling the earth in a bad way" {Daniel 2:44} that will sound like what their Pastors too are saying. But just because God's word summarized Daniel 2:44 with the symbolic word "Armageddon" {Revelations 16:16} despite the fact that this is written in all Bible versions they're confused! undecided

My prayer to God for sincere ones amongst them is for their salvation, because i bear them witness that they have the zeal for God but not according to accurate knowledge! Romans 10:2-3 smiley
Your assumption skills is incredible, well, so is lying skill.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:21am On Jun 18, 2020
TATIME:


Good question Maximus69, please do not respond to his aggression, try to maintain focus.

It's time to test and see how sincere Johnny is with himself, he will not answer because that will expose him as an enemy of TRUTH! undecided undecided undecided
What do a shameless lair know about truth.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:29am On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


She wants to know the truth, now she can see how different set of groups are coming in here to discourage her due to the point she made with her post:
"I'm beginning to reason with Jehovah's Witnesses"

Rottennaija (ex JW)
Achorladey (disguised JW)
Myer (disguised Atheist)
GRIMMJOE (confused Atheist)
Johnw47 (Misinformed Churchgoer)
Freshboi88 (RCCG)
MuttleyLaff (Freethinker)
Somvayina (Freethinker)

And many others have been trying to tell her what she posted is bad yet all of you can't come together on one line of thought.
So i think the young lady can sense what i've been trying to tell her right from the onset, all of you are on the same side, only JWs are on the other side! smiley

From you alone this how you know me.

Achorladey.......Disguised JW

Achorladey....... APOSTATE

Achorladey........ ATHEIST

Achorladey.........ASINWIN

Achorladey......... Mentally diseased

Achorladey..........Brain dead

Achorladey..........My neighbor

Achorladey..........My friend

Achorladey.......... Mad

Loading the next Achorladey............
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:37am On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


Don't run away yet, your friend also claims to believe in God, why not cure his so called delusion before going to help others?
After all you've both become friends because of Maximus69! Luke 23:12

So don't run away, try to distinguish between the deluded and those having a focus Sir! wink
When this page get to 50 I'm out, you lose brain cell the more you associate with unintelligent people.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:43am On Jun 18, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
When this page get to 50 I'm out, you lose brain cell the more you associate with unintelligent people.
not more 45 again but 50 lol
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:44am On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


BEHOLD THE SHEEP AND THE GOATS
Matthew 25:31-46

The concept of a Supreme Being is really something very tough and deep.

All these people coming up with criticism are actually on the same page but the truth is if not for the intervention of God's holy spirit you can't know this.

Note the description i gave each one of them and watch their attitude NOT where they thought they belong!

When Paul said "Satan has blinded their minds so that the illumination of Christ who is the image of God may not shine through" {2Corinthians 4:4} it simply means they will be agitating over what is right but due to their rebelliousness they will not be able to sustain righteosness.

Now take a closer look at each of them but this time with keen interest as to what each STAND for? Don't forget that what each claims he/she is standing for supposed to be his/her STANDard, please watch carefully perhaps the description i gave each one was wrong.

Ex JW; Disguised JW; Disguised Atheist, Confused Atheist, Misinformed Churchgoer and Freethinker.

Jesus compared the features of those following him to that of a domestic pet known as "SHEEP", this animal finds it really hard to do anything on it's own so a shepherd must be there to guide it, at the same time the shepherd will train some of the sheep to lead others, so when you see a flock of sheep, their movement is orderly, even in the absence of their Shepherd.

WHY?

Because they've been trained to recognize headship {1Corinthians 11:3} even when they're eating and the lead sheep trained to lead them moves, trust the sheep fold, all of them will move at once as if they're all satisfied.

The direct opposite is the goat (another domestic pet), this one doesn't recognize headship even the smallest of them could turn against it's own mother so there is no order, each goat moves in the direction that soothes it, goats eat with all kinds of animals so they easily get in trouble.

So in the same manner true followers of Jesus will be recognized by their orderly movement and the way they're well organized, they know whom to follow when it's time to feed {Psalms 23:2-3} in the absence of the group a sheep will not eat alone because they're scared of poison.

After a thorough meditation on this illustration i found everything complete in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses just as Jesus said it would be! John 10 3-5,27

JWs believe in one single source of divine guidance so they don't eat anywhere (take in spiritual food indiscriminately) they recognize headship so they're orderly and well organized, they follow the same instructions as if someone invisible is leading all of them to the same place, they will not carry weapons for any reason whatsoever so like the sheep they're harmless, they don't mingle easily so you'll feel offended by their strictness but when they see their fellow JWs they do things like blood relations.

The group leading them is called the Governing Body, these old men are like the central unit of control over the Organization just as Jesus had the same arrangement back then in the first century! Act 2:42

So watch and see if all those criticizing this faithful spiritual family knows who is leading them or what they stand for or better still if they have any STANDard? smiley

Concept of SHEEP and GOAT indeed. This post is grin grin grin grin cool shocked shocked shocked

After citing Matthew 25: 31-46 I thought you are giving us a COMMENTARY on it. The whole thing just Veered into SOMETHING ELSE.

It's not a bad thing to be MEEK MEEK MEEK.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:47am On Jun 18, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Your assumption skills is incredible, well, so is lying skill.

That's if he EVEN knows that he is MAKING ASSUMPTIONS or LYING.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:58am On Jun 18, 2020
johnw47:
where is maxine and tatine, somewhere holding hands i guess smiley
Probably expanding their rectum.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jun 18, 2020
Rozz:
not more 45 again but 50 lol

Do you notice how all of them are getting along, even when GRIMMJOE keeps disputing the existence of God?

That's why we are fittingly called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

None of them can stand up to defend God's word, isn't it now clear enough that they are all on the same page? smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:03pm On Jun 18, 2020
johnw47:


mad max it's obvious you know nothing

oh duh know nothing lying phrisee false jw mad max

truly the Kingdom is in believers

these verses show that Jesus is the Kingdom of God:

Luk 10:9  And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

Mat 12:28  But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.




and Jesus the Kingdom of God abodes in believers, not in you satans mob of course, but in christians
you know absolutely nothing about that, you are so duh mad max, aren't you

Johnw47 see the below and the image attached. as it lines well with your post.

Sometimes these guys read but don't get to understand what they read and there EYES only see what they want to see.


.........Hence, the Kingdom of God has indeed overtaken [/b]these opposers, because the [b]designated King of the Kingdom, Jesus, is right there performing these works.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 12:08pm On Jun 18, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
What do a shameless lair know about truth.

It's like you don't believe in the Bible, so can you quote any human law that makes lying a crime? undecided undecided undecided

Or are you now trying to sit on the fence between the two?

I'll suggest you remain consistent with your assertion so your words could be taken seriously.

Maximus69 said if you don't believe in God, you need to present a rule that says lying is a crime!

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:10pm On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


Do you notice how all of them are getting along, even when GRIMMJOE keeps disputing the existence of God?

That's why we are fittingly called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

None of them can stand up to defend God's word, isn't it now clear enough that they are all on the same page? smiley

What has Hoopernikao being doing in his discussion with GRIMMJOE?

Is this your first time of coming across GRIMMJOE?

You seek glory bask in your glory.

When GRIMMJOE is done playing with your MIND and HEAD and the THREAD gets to 50. This thread will veer into another DIRECTION. Be patient you will get to see it.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:12pm On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


Jesus said "the kingdom of God is IN YOUR MIDST" indicating that whoever wants to enter must accept his teachings.

Jesus was speaking to a crowd that very day, Pharisees Saddusees Scribes Priests and others religious teachers were present of course the Kingdom of God can't reside in the minds of those murderous religionists nah! embarassed

So i agreed with the interpretation of the NWT that says the kingdom of God is IN YOUR MIDST rather than KJV'S WITHIN YOU that doesn't make any practical sense! smiley

Therefore Mr johnw47 it's obvious you don't know the meaning of God's Kingdom Sir! smiley
The Bible is any illusion you want it to be.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jun 18, 2020
You should have seen how stupid he looks that day when he said "lying is a sin"
Please where is the written in the laws of men that GRIMMJOE is upholding against God's word? wink
TATIME:


It's like you don't believe in the Bible, so can you quote any human law that makes lying a crime? undecided undecided undecided

Or are you now trying to sit on the fence between the two?

I'll suggest you remain consistent with your assertion so your words could be taken seriously.

Maximus69 said if you don't believe in God, you need to present a rule that says lying is a crime!
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 12:13pm On Jun 18, 2020
achorladey:


What has Hoopernikao being doing in his discussion with GRIMMJOE?

Is this your first time of coming across GRIMMJOE?

You seek glory bask in your glory. When GRIMMJOE is done playing with your MIND and HEAD and the THREAD gets to 50. This thread will veer into another DIRECTION. Be patient you will get to see it.

I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain more. Any issue with GRIMMJOE?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jun 18, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
The Bible is any illusion you want it to be.

Tell your friends Sir, tell them to throw away their Bibles.
But as for Jehovah's Witnesses, our heritage will always be our heritage.
We wrote the Bible and we will continue to defend it anytime, anywhere, anyday and before anyone! 1Peter 3:15

Thanks Sir! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 12:19pm On Jun 18, 2020
Maximus69:


Do you notice how all of them are getting along, even when GRIMMJOE keeps disputing the existence of God?

That's why we are fittingly called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

None of them can stand up to defend God's word, isn't it now clear enough that they are all on the same page? smiley

Who are the "all of them" then Sir. Because as far as I can see only 5 persons is discussing currently with GRIMMJOE. One is your colleague, one has different view, Rozz, you and I. So who are the "all of them". Always be clear.

Also make clear the "getting along" too. Dont do behind the door whispering to Rozz in other to sell your views.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:20pm On Jun 18, 2020
hoopernikao:


I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain more. Any issue with GRIMMJOE?

That post was meant to address this part of Maximus69 post when he said......

Do you notice how all of them are getting along, even when GRIMMJOE keeps disputing the existence of God?

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 12:21pm On Jun 18, 2020
achorladey:


That post was meant to address this part of Maximus69 post when he said......

Do you notice how all of them are getting along, even when GRIMMJOE keeps disputing the existence of God?



Okay. Thanks.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:22pm On Jun 18, 2020
hoopernikao:


Who are the "all of them" then Sir. Because as far as I can see only 5 persons is discussing currently with GRIMMJOE. One is your colleague, one has different view, Rozz, you and I. So who are the "all of them". Always be clear.

Also make clear the "getting along" too. Dont do behind the door whispering to Rozz in other to sell your views.

Now you get where I am driving at on my post you responded to earlier.

Maximus69 is not selling views alone he wants GLORY.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:32pm On Jun 18, 2020
Rozz:
not more 45 again but 50 lol
I started counting from 45.

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