Maximus69:
Attention everyone on the thread!
Please help me ask who typed this o!

can't you spot the difference between person and being? cc Rozz

DappaD:

Pastor DrLiveLogic,

When Jesus' disciples asked him for the sign of his presence and when the end would come at Matthew 24, are you saying Jesus was lying to his disciples? Please tell me let me know!

Matthew 24:36

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.”

Since in your narrative, Jesus and God are the same person, then that means Jesus was lying to his disciples?

This one shock me

DappaD:


Another load of garbage that I won't bother to read.

Bwahahaha! DappaD who denied that God is Omnipresent has spoken again. It's becoming obvious to everyone that all the JWs here will avoid the three simple questions.
Then they will divert to when Jesus became a man and less than the Father.
The simple way to know if Jesus and the Father are equally God is to go back to the beginning and also go to end. Leave out what he did in created existence and go to before and after existence, First and Last.
I have taken you to the end in Apocalypse and you're all running away.

Come back and answer these questions. It's for your own good. Lol.



*** I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it





Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, DappaD, Peacefullove

solite3:
can't you spot the difference between person and being? cc Rozz

I have told him by persons can be meant different individual states/aspects of one Being (substance).
But Maximus69 is desperately looking for how he can divert the thread from three innocent questions I asked him. LMAO

Rozz:
lol

Are you interested in Answers or just arguments?
Rozz truth matters because you soul depends on it, Jesus said you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

DrLiveLogic:



Bwahahaha! DappaD who denied that God is Omnipresent has spoken again. It's becoming obvious to everyone that all the JWs here will avoid the three simple questions.
Then they will divert to when Jesus became a man and less than the Father.
The simple way to know if Jesus and the Father are equally God is to go back to the beginning and also go to end. Leave out what he did in created existence and go to before and after existence, First and Last.
I have taken you to the end in Apocalypse and you're all running away.

Come back and answer these questions. It's for your own good. Lol.



*** I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it





Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, DappaD, Peacefullove

You've not answered my own question, which is straight and direct.

Was Jesus lying to his disciples at Matthew 24:36?

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” ?

Was Jesus also lying when he said God is greater than he is? John 14:28 ?

And please stop copying and pasting these scriptures like you even understand any of them. Thank you.

DrLiveLogic:



Bwahahaha! DappaD who denied that God is Omnipresent has spoken again. It's becoming obvious to everyone that all the JWs here will avoid the three simple questions.
Then they will divert to when Jesus became a man and less than the Father.
The simple way to know if Jesus and the Father are equally God is to go back to the beginning and also go to end. Leave out what he did in created existence and go to before and after existence, First and Last.
I have taken you to the end in Apocalypse and you're all running away.

Come back and answer these questions. It's for your own good. Lol.



*** I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it





Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, DappaD, Peacefullove

Answer me YES or NO. Everyone on this thread that can bear me witness that it is a very simple question.

DrLiveLogic:

I have told him by persons you mean individual states of one Being (substance).
But Maximus69 is desperately looking for how he can divert the thread from three innocent questions I asked him. LMAO

they know what they are doing, they are not ready to hear the truth but just to mislead others.

There's actually no difference between DrLiveLogic and johnw47
Both misinformed churchgoers and self-acclaimed “Bible scholars”
Always recycling scriptures that don't agree with their line of thought.

DrLiveLogic:



Bwahahaha! DappaD who denied that God is Omnipresent has spoken again. It's becoming obvious to everyone that all the JWs here will avoid the three simple questions.
Then they will divert to when Jesus became a man and less than the Father.
The simple way to know if Jesus and the Father are equally God is to go back to the beginning and also go to end. Leave out what he did in created existence and go to before and after existence, First and Last.
I have taken you to the end in Apocalypse and you're all running away.

Come back and answer these questions. It's for your own good. Lol.



*** I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it





Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, DappaD, Peacefullove

did they just deny the omnipresence of God

Psalms 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?

now this is Jesus disciples saying that Jesus is omniscience, Jesus knows all things,

John 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.


Peter again said the same thing,


John 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

DappaD:


Answer me YES or NO. Everyone on this thread that can bear me witness that it is a very simple question.

LMAO. Bwahahaha! A defeated for running from the battlefield is trying to save face and look in charge. How lame!
Aiit. Let's make a simple deal. I'll answer you directly and then you'll answer my three innocent questions directly too, okay! Deal!

Your answer is No. Jesus was not lying. He was telling the truth. Having gave up His Godhead privileges of Omnipotence which he had in the beginning to become a servant. Thus, he became less than the Father and had limitations. Kapish!


Now, your turn. Don't be scared, this will only do you good.

Let's go back to Beginning and Ending. Follow to me Apocalypse and answer these three questions altogether. They must have unanimous answer, don't forget.
Now people watch another diversionary tactics loading. LMAO.

****I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

***If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it

solite3:
Are you interested in Answers or just arguments?
Rozz truth matters because you soul depends on it, Jesus said you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Yes solite3, I'm wondering that Rozz doesn't seem interested in this answer. I've even asked Rozz to answer my question on the 3 states of water, but she doesn't. Only keeps looking around the thread. Is Rozz somebody's mole

DappaD:
There's actually no difference between DrLiveLogic and johnw47
Both misinformed churchgoers and self-acclaimed “Bible scholars”
Always recycling scriptures that don't agree with their line of thought.

Diversionary tactics won't work here sister. No time for chit-chat. Only weapons of knowledge work on this battlefield. Now go back and answer my three questions.




Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, Peacefullove, DappaD

DrLiveLogic:

LMAO. Bwahahaha! A defeated for running from the battlefield is trying to save face. How lame!
Aiit. Let's make a simple deal. I'll answer you directly and then you'll answer my three innocent questions directly too, okay! Good.

Jesus was not lying. He was telling the truth. Having abandoned His Godhead he had in the beginning, he became less than the Father and had limitations. Kapish!


Now, your turn. Don't be scared, this will only do you good.

Let's go back to Beginning and Ending. Follow to me Apocalypse and answer these three questions altogether. They must have unanimous answer, don't forget.
Now people watch another diversionary tactics loading. LMAO.

****I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it

Yes solite3, I'm suspecting that Rozz is not interested in this answer. I've even asked Rozz to answer my question on the 3 states of water, but she doesn't. Only keeps looking around the thread. Is Rozz somebody's mole


Diversionary tactics won't work here sister. No time for chit-chat. Only weapons of knowledge work on this battlefield. Now go back and answer my three questions.




Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, Peacefullove, DappaD

Jesus didn't abandon his God head but rather he took up the human nature
in addition, Hence he was 100% God and 100% man.

Jesus possesses the qualities of Almighty God and the qualities of man.

The union of the two natures is called the hypostatic union.

Jesus was both less than God and equal to God.
He was less than God because of his human nature but equal to God in his divine nature.

DrLiveLogic:

LMAO. Bwahahaha! A defeated for running from the battlefield is trying to save face. How lame!
Aiit. Let's make a simple deal. I'll answer you directly and then you'll answer my three innocent questions directly too, okay! Good.

Jesus was not lying. He was telling the truth.
[s]Having abandoned His Godhead he had in the beginning, he became less than the Father and had limitations.[/s] Kapish!


Now, your turn. Don't be scared, this will only do you good.

Let's go back to Beginning and Ending. Follow to me Apocalypse and answer these three questions altogether. They must have unanimous answer, don't forget.
Now people watch another diversionary tactics loading. LMAO.

****I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it

Yes solite3, I'm suspecting that Rozz is not interested in this answer. I've even asked Rozz to answer my question on the 3 states of water, but she doesn't. Only keeps looking around the thread. Is Rozz somebody's mole


Diversionary tactics won't work here sister. No time for chit-chat. Only weapons of knowledge work on this battlefield. Now go back and answer my three questions.




Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, Peacefullove, DappaD

Thank you for admitting that.
So since you said Jesus is God, and that he is omnipresent, why will he be limited on earth? Does that make sense to you?

You're the one that said he's the same everywhere oo and now you're the same person saying he's limited.

Young man stop acting childish, if you can't articulate your argument properly then there shouldn't even be a hearing to your supposed claims.

solite3:
Jesus didn't abandon his God head but rather he took up the human nature
in addition, Hence he was 100% God and 100% man.

Jesus possesses the qualities of Almighty God and the qualities of man.

The union of the two natures is called the hypostatic union.

Yes he didn't. Let me clarify that. He gave up his privileges of Omnipotence is what I mean while retaining His nature/character as God.
Thnx.

solite3:
Jesus didn't abandon his God head but rather he took up the human nature
in addition, Hence he was 100% God and 100% man.

Jesus possesses the qualities of Almighty God and the qualities of man.

The union of the two natures is called the hypostatic union.

[s]Jesus was both less than God and equal to God.[/s]
He was less than God because of his human nature but equal to God in his divine nature.

DrLiveLogic and solite3 please agree on one thing let's take you both serious!

DrLiveLogic:

Yes he didn't. Let me clarify that. He gave up his privileges of Omnipotence is what I mean while retaining His nature/character as God.
Thnx.

yes of course, he limited himself to his human nature but his disciples and others could still see his divinity.

DrLiveLogic:

Yes he didn't. Let me clarify that. He gave up his privileges of Omnipotence is what I mean while retaining His nature/character as God.
Thnx.

yes of course, he limited himself to his human nature but his disciples and others could still see his divinity.

DappaD:


DrLiveLogic and solite3 please agree on one thing let's take you both serious!

Hopeless diversions. I ain't that dumb.

DrLiveLogic:

I have told him by persons can be meant different individual states/aspects of one Being (substance).
But Maximus69 is desperately looking for how he can divert the thread from three innocent questions I asked him. LMAO

solite3:
they know what they are doing, they are not ready to hear the truth but just to mislead others.

DrLiveLogic:

Yes he didn't. Let me clarify that. He gave up his privileges of Omnipotence is what I mean while retaining His nature/character as God.
Thnx.

solite3:
yes of course, he limited himself to his human nature but his disciples and others could still see his divinity.

Now go back and answer the three questions without further ado and distractions. LMAO

DrLiveLogic:

Yes he didn't. Let me clarify that. He gave up his privileges of Omnipotence is what I mean while retaining His nature/character as God.
Thnx.

No, stay in your lane and use your own narrative
Stop jumping here and there.
Do you know that even saying things like God and Jesus are the same person can get you into trouble?
For the Bible to clearly say that Jesus is the Son of God and then you come to say he's the same person means you're heading towards your own destruction!
(Matthew 16:16, John 20:31)
Accurate knowledge of who Jehovah God is and who Jesus Christ is, is very necessary for everlasting life (John 17:3)
You trinitarian lot keep condemning yourselves to destruction because you choose to hold on to useless church doctrines and traditions that have no basis in the Bible.

DappaD:


DrLiveLogic and solite3 please agree on one thing let's take you both serious!

Go and answer those question and stop the diversions

solite3:
yes of course, he limited himself to his human nature but his disciples and others could still see his divinity.

.
But the same Bible said no man has seen God at any time (John 1:18)
But people saw Jesus and said he was the Son of the true God (Matthew 16:16, John 20:31)

So should we believe what the Bible says is the truth or what you say is the truth?

DappaD:
.
But the sane Bible said no man has seen God at any time (John 1:18)
But people saw Jesus and said he was the Son of the true God (Matthew 16:16, John 20:31)

So should we believe what the Bible says is the truth or what you say is the truth?

Go and answer those questions first

DappaD:


No, stay in your lane and use your own narrative
Stop jumping here and there.
Do you know what even saying things like God and Jesus are the same person can get you into trouble?
For the Bible to clearly say that Jesus is the Son of God and then you come to say he's the same means you're heading towards your own destruction!
(Matthew 16:16, John 20:31)
Accurate knowledge of who Jehovah God is and who Jesus Christ is, is very necessary for everlasting life (John 17:3)
You trinitarian lot keep condemning yourselves to destruction because you choose to hold on to church doctrines and traditions that have no basis in the Bible.

Bwahahaha!
Oga, stop telling stories and diverting. Go back and answer my three questions. LMAO.

***I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

*** If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it

DrLiveLogic:


Bwahahaha!
Oga, stop telling stories and diverting. Go back and answer my three questions. LMAO.

***I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

*** If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it

I already said I'm not answering your stupid questions because you don't even know the scriptures you're quoting.

DappaD:

I already said I'm not answering your stupid questions because you don't even know the scriptures you're quoting.

Bwahahaha! LMAO. Another JW bows out. Next!

Someone else please come and answer these three questions o. They are only for your own good. LMAO.



***I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.


***If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it



Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, Peacefullove, DappaD

DappaD:
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But the same Bible said no man has seen God at any time (John 1:18)
But people saw Jesus and said he was the Son of the true God (Matthew 16:16, John 20:31)

So should we believe what the Bible says is the truth or what you say is the truth?

Are you still playing with those clowns?

Well i'm presently in my friend's Office for a deal so i can only respond, if they come up with something tangible regarding their TRINITY Dogheads!

I don't really blame you dumb trinitarians! Really I don't!
I blame your churches and religious groups that have chosen to adhere to ancient Babylonian doctrines and practices that started right after the construction of the Tower of Babel.
Check you'll see, all the beliefs and traditions you guys hold dear today all have roots in the false and pagan traditions of ancient Babylon.

1. Trinity - the people of ancient Babylon believed in a triune/triad of gods while Jehovah's people believed and worshiped only ONE TRUE GOD (Deuteronomy 6:4)

2. Immortality of the soul - the people of ancient Babylon believed that the human soul survives death. People carried such teachings to go and establish their own religions in other parts of the world, meanwhile the Bible clearly teaches that man is mortal and when he dies, he returns to dust (Genesis 3:19, Ecclesiastes 9:5,6,10 , Ezekiel 18:4)

3. Spiritism which includes communicating with the dead, casting of spells etc
Among other practises in ancient Babylon, divination and sorcery were prominent facets. Today you can see people who claim to serve God consulting “Babalawo” to heal them after they claim they “prayed to God”.
Likely even, since the churches claim to have power to heal the sick and perform miracles and we know such power is not from God since the gifts of the holy spirit were done away with in the first century (1Corinthians 13:8 ) . Then it is very possible that so called pastors and healers consult other means to heal and perform miracles for their members, which will include spiritism.

The Bible clearly stated at Deuteronomy 18:9-11,

“When you have entered into the land that Jehovah your God is giving you, you must not learn to imitate the detestable practices of those nations.  There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, anyone practicing magic, anyone who looks for omens, a sorcerer, anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who consults a spirit medium or a fortune-teller, or anyone who inquires of the dead.”
So what will a supposed Christian be doing consulting native doctors and still say it's God that healed him?

4. Use of images in worship
The people of ancient Babylon did use images in worship as is confirmed at Daniel 3:1-3.
Today, we see people making images of crosses and of their “Mary the mother of God” and using such in worship. In other churches and religious groups too, you find people using stickers and pictures of their religious fathers in worship as well and hoping that such will protect them from harm.


While God's true worshipers will know that we worship Jehovah God alone and no one else.(Exodus 20:4-5, Deuteronomy 6:13-15)

There are several other false beliefs but I've named just a few

My point is, you and all the rest of your trinity cohorts have this conditioned mind. So it doesn't surprise true worshipers of God when you lot keep defending worthless beliefs and traditions.

Maximus69:


Are you still playing with those clowns?

Well i'm presently in my friend's Office for a deal so i can only respond, if they come up with something tangible regarding their TRINITY Dogheads!

Actually I'm tired of all of them.

DappaD:


Actually I'm tired of all of them.

God's Kingdom is fast approaching and only those who are united as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers will inherit God's promises not those who are arguing blindly when they can't even arrive at a conclusion on what they believe!

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DrLiveLogic:

Bwahahaha! LMAO. Another JW bows out. Next!

Someone else please come and answer these three questions o. They are only for your own good. LMAO.



***I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.


***If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it



Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, Peacefullove, DappaD

@Highlighted , YOU LIED !!! ... Nowhere is Jesus called Almighty. I think you finally roped yourself.

DrLiveLogic:

Bwahahaha! LMAO. Another JW bows out. Next!

Someone else please come and answer these three questions o. They are only for your own good. LMAO.



***I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.

Again you are been mischievous , after been cornered that two people sharing titles doesnt make them of equal power, you now make a U- turn and rant above.


Jesus use of First and Last is not close to that of his Father , Let me ask : Why is Jesus and Adam called " Son of God " ??

A Son of God is a created being!!!! If a created being says He is First and last . Does that not tell a thinking human that he didnt meant Uncreated ??


I challenge you to show me where the Father is called Son of anyone.

Peacefullove:

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@Highlighted , YOU LIED !!! ... Nowhere is Jesus called Almighty. I think you finally roped yourself.

OK you're just detecting his lies shey?

What of saying Jesus is Jehovah yet saying what Solite3 typed that Jesus and Jehovah aren't the same person true?

Peacefullove:



Again you are been mischievous , after been cornered that two people sharing titles doesnt make them of equal power, you now make a U- turn and rant above.


Jesus use of First and Last is not close to that of his Father , Let me ask : Why is Jesus and Adam called " Son of God " ??

A Son of God is a created being!!!! If a created being says He is First and last . Does that not tell a thinking human that he didnt meant Uncreated ??


I challenge you to show me where the Father is called Son of anyone.

Jesus was called the last Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} does that makes Jehovah Adam?