Torture2020:
Fuckeduppedness

Brilliant response. It clearly displays your IQ level.

JaceBlaze:


We are entitled miscreants for not wanting to mingle with drug dealers from West Africa who skipped 52 African countries and brought their criminality to SA?...you don't say

Who is telling you to mingle with any drug dealers or Nigerians in general for that matter. You don't do that with any other set of peoples outside your 11 language groups and that is even a rarity.

Are you saying you can't go about your business without encountering them. Aren't there South African criminal elements and rapists amongst you. How do you survive them on a daily basis. Do you mingle with them on the regular or are they acceptable to you because they are South Africans. Hmmm?

You are miscreants because your liberation movement government in power has promised you heaven on earth and now that you are not getting it anyone outside of your entitled group who is seen as even taking advantage of any opportunities that are abound is seen as an enemy. PS I am not talking about criminals in this case.

JaceBlaze:

They are aware and still choose to come? so in conclusion we are the lesser of the two devils,right?...staying back in Nigeria and living amongst xenophobes that is.

You are not the lesser of any evils because there are a multiplicity of evils that await in other countries in which these same Nigerians are willing to risk.

morpheus24:


Who is telling you to mingle with any drug dealers or Nigerians in general for that matter. You don't do that with any other set of peoples outside your 11 language groups and that is even a rarity.

Are you saying you can't go about your business without encountering them. Aren't there South African criminal elements and rapists amongst you. How do you survive them on a daily basis. Do you mingle with them on the regular or are they acceptable to you because they are South Africans. Hmmm?

You are miscreants because your liberation movement government in power has promised you heaven on earth and now that you are not getting it anyone outside of your entitled group who is seen as even taking advantage of any opportunities that are abound is seen as an enemy. PS I am not talking about criminals in this case.



You are not the lesser of any evils because there are a multiplicity of evils that await in other countries in which these same Nigerians are willing to risk.

So if there's South African criminal elements then that gives foreign ones a green light to add up on that? all we want is to deal with our own that we already have here.

By heaven & earth you mean all the basic services that every sane country provides for its citizens? electricity,water,roads,free health care? those? If you can't hold the people you voted for accountable for the lack of basic services then that's your choice but don't vilify those whom their democracy allows them to.


Like Malaysia where many Nigerians are on death row?

morpheus24:


How it enters the body is irrelevant. Ha.! Keep telling yourselves that lie they are feeding you to make you feel good about or justify the "behaviors" that spread the virus.

Riddle me this:
Can you prevent yourself from getting cancer?
Can you prevent yourself from developing diabetes?
Can you prevent an HIV infection?




1. Not to be discriminatory but you do know that HIV contraction rates are highest in the gay community no?
2. Your rate of transmission is highest amongst sexually promisuous people who have unprotected sex with multiple partners,no?

This is pointless

morpheus24:

We are not running around in circle. You are running away from the truth

What you are insinuating is that some how stigmatization of this disease has a link to its prevalence rates. So because people who contact HIV in Nigeria are silent about their status they are spreading the disease at a faster rate.

Take the challenge and go sleep with 50 Nigerian women and then do the same in your country. Let's see what happens.

Ok guy

IronGalaxy:
This is pointless

of course it is.

JaceBlaze:


So if there's South African criminal elements then that gives foreign ones a green light to add up on that? all we want is to deal with our own that we already have here.

Stop talking like a village boy. What own are you talking about? Stop with the xenophobia.

Who is stopping you from dealing with our own peoples issues?
What support does the government give to Nigerian drug dealers or Nigerian citizens as an allocation from your budget?
What resource do Nigerians own in South Africa that are impeding you from upward mobility?
What industry do they compete in that impedes your growth?
What seaports, imports, exports do they control?
What is stopping your government from deporting drug dealers, gangsta and likes?
What benefits are being bestowed on these drug dealers. Are they exempt from taxes. Don't they pay rent, utitilities etc.



Are you dealing with other foreign criminal elements that reside in your country. Is it because Nigerians who are loud by nature create a target for themselves and are easy prey that makes you believe they are the true threat in South Africa.? Hogwash.

Visit Camps bay and go and see your real enemy relaxing on your beaches, buying up land in your backyard and taking over industries that impede your participation.

JaceBlaze:

By heaven & earth you mean all the basic services that every sane country provides for its citizens? electricity,water,roads,free health care? those? If you can't hold the people you voted for accountable for the lack of basic services then that's your choice but don't vilify those whom their democracy allows them to.


Like Malaysia where many Nigerians are on death row?

Nah we are talking about radical economic transformation not service delivery. Even if they give you light, cheap housing, and welfare money how is that transforming your upward mobility eh?

morpheus24:


Stop talking like a village boy. What own are you talking about? Stop with the xenophobia.

Who is stopping you from dealing with our own peoples issues?
What support does the government give to Nigerian drug dealers or Nigerian citizens as an allocation from your budget?
What resource do Nigerians own in South Africa that are impeding you from upward mobility?
What industry do they compete in that impedes your growth?
What seaports, imports, exports do they control?
What is stopping your government from deporting drug dealers, gangsta and likes?
What benefits are being bestowed on these drug dealers. Are they exempt from taxes. Don't they pay rent, utitilities etc.



Are you dealing with other foreign criminal elements that reside in your country. Is it because Nigerians who are loud by nature create a target for themselves and are easy prey that makes you believe they are the true threat in South Africa.? Hogwash.

Visit Camps bay and go and see your real enemy relaxing on your beaches, buying up land in your backyard and taking over industries that impede your participation.



Nah we are talking about radical economic transformation not service delivery. Even if they give you light, cheap housing, and welfare money how is that transforming your upward mobility eh?

Bro! what the fùck are you talking about? Please explain the first part of your write up in layman's terms.


What does Camps Bay got to do with everything?


So demanding radical transformation is being entitled? demanding economic participation in our country is the heaven and earth you're talking about?


Your whole post doesn't even make sense,I just had to connect the bits to make something out of the gibberish.

JaceBlaze:



Bro! what the fùck are you talking about? Please explain the first part of your write up in layman's terms.

Its in plain english, You are just slow.

Let me sum up in one sentence though since you seem to be dyslexic. What is stopping your government from rounding up drug dealing foreign criminals and deporting them with immediate effect so you can concentrate on your own criminals. Don't they control treasury, police, army, task forces, immigration, legislation, judiciary?

JaceBlaze:

What does Camps Bay got to do with everything?

Its has everything to do with it.. Let me clue you in.
You yap about wanting to focus on your own criminals, meanwhile the biggest heists and criminal elements are amongst you there. You just don't see them. Camps bay is just an example so don't focus too much on the location.

You have hedge funds, criminal underworld syndicates, international Jewish syndicates buying up everything that is deservedly your peoples to claim. Land, resources, industry, etc, locking your people out of industry, economic opportunities, wealth creating avenues pretty much in every province and here you are yapping about a couple of thousand of riff raff drug dealers and street hustlers occupying a small space in Hillbrow. Why are you not up in arms about these criminals, o yes they are criminals of the same kind.

Did I make the above clear enough or would you like me to elaborate a lot more.

JaceBlaze:

So demanding radical transformation is being entitled? demanding economic participation in our country is the heaven and earth you're talking about?


Your whole post doesn't even make sense,I just had to connect the bits to make something out of the gibberish.

I am with people who are demanding radical economic transformation including the likes of Julius and the EFF party. I see nothing entitling about their demands. I dig their rhetoric. I agree with much of what they speak about. This is not your rhetoric by the way.

morpheus24:


Its in plain english, You are just slow.

Let me sum up in one sentence though since you seem to be dyslexic. What is stopping your government from rounding up drug dealing foreign criminals and deporting them with immediate effect so you can concentrate on your own criminals. Don't they control treasury, police, army, task forces, immigration, legislation, judiciary?



Its has everything to do with it.. Let me clue you in.
You yap about wanting to focus on your own criminals, meanwhile the biggest heists and criminal elements are amongst you there. You just don't see them. Camps bay is just an example so don't focus too much on the location.

You have hedge funds, criminal underworld syndicates, international Jewish syndicates buying up everything that is deservedly your peoples to claim. Land, resources, industry, etc, locking your people out of industry, economic opportunities, wealth creating avenues pretty much in every province and here you are yapping about a couple of thousand of riff raff drug dealers and street hustlers occupying a small space in Hillbrow. Why are you not up in arms about these criminals, o yes they are criminals of the same kind.

Did I make the above clear enough or would you like me to elaborate a lot more.



I am with people who are demanding radical economic transformation including the likes of Julius and the EFF party. I see nothing entitling about their demands. I dig their rhetoric. I agree with much of what they speak about. This is not your rhetoric by the way.

The floor is yours.Elaborate more cause it seems you got the scoop.

JaceBlaze:


The floor is yours.Elaborate more cause it seems you got the scoop.

Why don't you ask a question or comment as far as what you understand that has been written so far and I will expand upon my statements.

That seems a fair enough approach thereby giving the discussion more qualitative direction don't you think?, otherwise I could go as far back as the British South Africa company run by Cecil Rhodes to the Jewish Oppenheimer Syndicates and end up with what percentage of Nigerians are in your prison systems as a reflection of who are the greater perpetrators of drug offences in South Africa as a whole.

morpheus24:


Why don't you ask a question or comment as far as what you understand that has been written so far and I will expand upon my statements.

That seems a fair enough approach thereby giving the discussion more qualitative direction don't you think?, otherwise I could start with Oppenheimer and ownership of resources and end up with what percentage of Nigerians are in your prison systems as a reflection of who are the greater perpetrators of drug offences in South Africa as a whole.

Judging from the sneak preview I can already tell that I'm in for a good treat.

I didn't know where to begin as far as questions are concerned because your sermon was too long.But indulge me on the Jewish heists in Camp's bay,and tell what is it that you think South Africans haven't already heard about the Oppenheimers


Over to you.

JaceBlaze:


But indulge me on the Jewish heists in Camp's bay,and tell what is it that you think South Africans haven't already heard about the Oppenheimers

Over to you.

Let us establish that the ownership of a majority Land, real estate, stores, industry, farms etc are owned by the Jews in cape town. This community has historically and continues to take advantage of your "peoples" in that region of South Africa. You own no majority of anything in any of those regions. You are subjected to slave labor and serfdom in most of their companies who do not even have 10% representation of black people on their staff save for BBE quotas. A large amount of foreigners from Europe and the Americas are hired over your people to take on jobs e.t.c under cutting you in that region.

No uproar. NO discussions on social media addressing this issues, no boycotts, no Herman Mashaba DA party or Musi Maimane fights for people in that region.

You have the largest gangs, ganstas and gang related activity in that province of "your" people kiling each other in record numbers. No uproar from anyone of you hear. Never heard a peep about such things.

You have the largest amount of drug activity, drug addicts and drug sales that occur in this region of the country with the most violent gang retaliations and murders that occur. Who brings these drugs to the cape, how does it get into that region. Who is it being sold to. Do colored people travel abroad and procure these products. Again No noise not uproar nothing I have ever read here.


You have the largest amount of international real estate transfers of the most prime property/real estate that occurs in the western cape to these "foreigners" with money excluding and ex-communicating your likes from ever having the opportunity to build generational wealth. No uproar, no noise from anyone of you.

Instead you are soooo! ready to Xenophobe against a couple of thousand street running drug majorly in Joburg and much less in other provinces as the bane and eyesore to your society. Now we are not saying these are not issues but hey BRAVO! your eyes are really wide open no?

morpheus24:


Let us establish that the ownership of a majority Land, real estate, stores, industry, farms etc are owned by the Jews in cape town. This community has historically and continues to take advantage of your "peoples" in that region of South Africa. You own no majority of anything in any of those regions. You are subjected to slave labor and serfdom in most of their companies who do not even have 10% representation of black people on their staff save for BBE quotas. A large amount of foreigners from Europe and the Americas are hired over your people to take on jobs e.t.c under cutting you in that region.

No uproar. NO discussions on social media addressing this issues, no boycotts, no Herman Mashaba DA party or Musi Maimane fights for people in that region.

You have the largest gangs, ganstas and gang related activity in that province of "your" people kiling each other in record numbers. No uproar from anyone of you hear. Never heard a peep about such things.

You have the largest amount of drug activity, drug addicts and drug sales that occur in this region of the country with the most violent gang retaliations and murders that occur. Who brings these drugs to the cape, how does it get into that region. Who is it being sold to. Do colored people travel abroad and procure these products. Again No noise not uproar nothing I have ever read here.


You have the largest amount of international real estate transfers of the most prime property/real estate that occurs in the western cape to these "foreigners" with money excluding and ex-commnicating your likes from ever having the opportunity to build generational wealth. No uproar, no noise from anyone of you.

Instead you are ready to Xenophobe against a couple of thousand street running drug majorly in joburg and much less in other provinces as the bane and eyesore to your society.

BRAVO! your eyes are really wide open no?

So this is the BIG revelation that I was waiting for? things that have been discussed over and over in our parliament,and even the army was deployed to diffuse the gang activities in Cape Town?


The irony of regurgitating sentiments South Africans have been expressing for years and claim that we are not aware.


You looking like a fool right now..damn.

JaceBlaze:



So this is the BIG revelation that I was waiting for? things that have been discussed over and over in our parliament ,and even the army was deployed to diffuse the gang activities in Cape Town?

Discussions eh!

JaceBlaze:

The irony of regurgitating sentiments South Africans have been expressing for years and claim that we are not aware.

Can we now juxtapose these "sentiments" you have been expressing in the corridors of your parliament against these Nigerian drug dealing eye sores that inhabit the streets of Joburg that there are uproars , toi toi's, protests, lootings, harassments, Killings, etc and say where is the equal treatment of phobia and outrage!

JaceBlaze:

You looking like a fool right now..damn.

Sarcasm will get you no where with me Mfethu!

morpheus24:


Discussions eh!


Can we now juxtapose these "sentiments" you have been expressing in the corridors of your parliament against these Nigerian drug dealing eye sores that inhabit the streets of Joburg that there are uproars , toi toi's, protests, lootings, harassments, Killings, etc and say where is the equal treatment of phobia and outrage!



Sarcasm will get you no where with me Mfethu!

You not even aware that the land issue and economic reform have been central issues for discussion in parliament for ages?...there goes Morpheus the late bloomer.


Show me where people organised protests against Nigerian drug dealers - not the few riff raffs that were looking for an opportunity to steal,which by the way don't even amount to 2%.And mind you,even South African shop owners are not spared in these incidents.I want to see what's there for us to compare.


Sarcasm? is that what your tiny brain made out of that?

@Morpheus24...what's the hold up?

Where for art thou? My patience is wearing a bit thin now.I want to see what's there for juxtapose.

JaceBlaze:

Show me where people organised protests against Nigerian drug dealers - not the few riff raffs that were looking for an opportunity to steal,which by the way don't even amount to 2%.And mind you,even South African shop owners are not spared in these incidents.I want to see what's there for us to compare.

A few riff raffs you say

I don't see a few of these riff raffs marching against the hurds of "foreigners' your sea points, green points, long streets or your camps bay where they are taking over your streets, sniffing all kinds of illicit drugs and indulging in all kinds of nastiness with your girls, yes your precious South African girls!, is it because you are far removed from it. Where is the outrage?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is6HAnSdJZ4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvSWjAfbBhU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvlrKvigLY8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AgV5tayhls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeZ0Tl_L3og

JaceBlaze:
@Morpheus24...what's the hold up?

Where for art thou? My patience is wearing a bit thin now.I want to see what's there for juxtapose.

No patience ne!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Th-HIFblY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0zB9NPfDeA

My nigga Julius throwing that fire !


VIVA EFF! VIVA!

VIVA AFRICA!

VIVA!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u01febXb4VY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Fe0gaaIjw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_mq1grn0Sk

morpheus24:





A few riff raffs you say

I don't see a few of these riff raffs marching against the hurds of "foreigners' your sea points, green points, long streets or your camps bay where they are taking over your streets, sniffing all kinds of illicit drugs and indulging in all kinds of nastiness with your girls, yes your precious South African girls!, is it because you are far removed from it. Where is the outrage?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is6HAnSdJZ4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvSWjAfbBhU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvlrKvigLY8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AgV5tayhls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeZ0Tl_L3og

The moment you pulled a disappearing act for more than half-hour on me I knew you were devising a stratagem to widen up the goal posts.Ain't gonna work pal

Nice try but I don't know what your YouTube videos are supposed to be proving (didn't watch by the way) but I must admit that your diversion tactics are quite impressive.

* You said we don't seem concerned about our misfits as we are with foreign ones.I debunked your camp fire riddles by showing you that SANDF was deployed to diffuse the gang situation in CPT,and as per usual,you diverted like only Morpheus can.

* You said South Africans seem more preoccupied with Nigerian drug dealers in Hillbrow more than issues such as radical economic transformation.I proved that to be one of your pathetic lies as well,and you moved the goal posts yet again.



Why don't you also post pictures and videos of thousands of South Africans protesting against xenophobia as well?...oh wait..that might blow your one-sided narrative out of the water and leave you looking like a complete idiot.

morpheus24:


No patience ne!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Th-HIFblY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0zB9NPfDeA

I'm not wasting my data & time on these videos bro.I don't even know what the angle is LoL

JaceBlaze:






The moment you pulled a disappearing act for more than half-hour on me I knew you were devising a stratagem to widen up the goal posts.Ain't gonna work pal

"Whoever is patient has great understanding". You must learn to be patient. This is not a sprint, its a marathon.

JaceBlaze:

Nice try but I don't know what your YouTube videos are supposed to be proving (didn't watch by the way) but I must admit that your diversion tactics are quite impressive.

If you had the patience to watch them you would see that each and everyone of those videos mentions "protests" against "Nigerian drug dealers". Something you say does not happen or is perpertrated by a few riff raffs. The videos are for everyone on this platform and not specifically for you. You can choose to watch them or not, doesn't bother me if you choose to remain ignorant or paint a certain narrative.[/quote]

JaceBlaze:

* You said we don't seem concerned about our misfits as we are with foreign ones.I debunked your camp fire riddles by showing you that SANDF was deployed to diffuse the gang situation in CPT,and as per usual,you diverted like only Morpheus can.

No no no my dear sir, you chose to extract the only parts of my whole write up that fit your response so no debunking was done. If you listened to some of Julius's videos that I posted, he makes clear mention of how 'you" seem to not deploy this same force of officers to quail drug activity specific to Nigerians in Hillbrow and the likes.
Why do you not set up task forces and round up these Nigerian and out they go.
Why do you not find out who are the primary sources of these drug
Who brings them in, who manufactures them?
How do they get into the hands of the Nigerians?
Do you not control your borders?
Why are your police force implicated with these drug dealers, are they not indirectly killing your own people when they let these Nigerians go?

We can go on and on.

JaceBlaze:

* You said South Africans seem more preoccupied with Nigerian drug dealers in Hillbrow more than issues such as radical economic transformation.I proved that to be one of your pathetic lies as well,and you moved the goal posts yet again.

Please do not misconstrue my words,, very disingenious. My point was you seem to put much effort and coverage on these "drug dealers" yet this same effort is not deployed to your "foreigners" on the end color spectrum who are practically doing the same things in your camps bay and the likes.

JaceBlaze:

Why don't you also post pictures and videos of thousands of South Africans protesting against xenophobia as well?...oh wait..that might blow your one-sided narrative out of the water and leave you looking like a complete idiot.

Only fools "generalize" a whole group of people which is what you are alluding to here. I have no quams with people who are against xenophobia. You see I did post videos of the EFF, aren't they South Africans too. Hmmmm??

I have an issue with uninformed ,entitled,myopic miscreants like yourself and a whole bunch of other IDIOTS! on this platform who live in their bubbles and cannot articulate any arguments outside of those bubbles they live in









[/quote]

morpheus24:


"Whoever is patient has great understanding". You must learn to be patient. This is not a sprint, its a marathon.


If you had the patience to watch them you would see that each and everyone of those videos mentions "protests" against "Nigerian drug dealers". Something you say does not happen or is perpertrated by a few riff raffs. The videos are for everyone on this platform and not specifically for you. You can choose to watch them or not, doesn't bother me if you choose to remain ignorant or paint a certain narrative.


No no no my dear sir, you chose to extract the only parts of my whole write up that fit your response so no debunking was done. If you listened to some of Julius's videos that I posted, he makes clear mention of how 'you" seem to not deploy this same force of officers to quail drug activity specific to Nigerians in Hillbrow and the likes.
Why do you not set up task forces and round up these Nigerian and out they go.
Why do you not find out who are the primary sources of these drug
Who brings them in, who manufactures them?
How do they get into the hands of the Nigerians?
Do you not control your borders?
Why are your police force implicated with these drug dealers, are they not indirectly killing your own people when they let these Nigerians go?

We can go on and on.



Please do not misconstrue my words,, very disingenious. My point was you seem to put much effort and coverage on these "drug dealers" yet this same effort is not deployed to your "foreigners" on the end color spectrum who are practically doing the same things in your camps bay and the likes.



Only fools "generalize" a whole group of people which is what you are alluding to here. I have no quams with people who are against xenophobia. You see I did post videos of the EFF, aren't they South Africans too. Hmmmm??

I have an issue with uninformed ,entitled,myopic miscreants like yourself and a whole bunch of other IDIOTS! on this platform who live in their bubbles and cannot articulate any arguments outside of those bubbles they live in

Who's said it does not happen? I said Nigerian drug dealers are not as discussed as many other problems we have in this country after you lied about us not investing as much energy on the real issues like economy and land reform as we do with drugs,and I also dismantled your irony of regurgitating land issue that has been tackled over and over again when you said we are not even aware of the Oppenheimers Hahaa.


I never really take Malema seriously.Is he blaming the South African authorities for the uncouth behaviour and criminality of Nigerians? how can they send drug units to curtail the problem when they are called xenophobic whenever they do it?South African authorities have been trying to round up illegal immigrants for years but it's not easy rounding up 5 million people overnight and while being called xenophobic while doing what's necessary.Isn't Herman Mashaba called xenophobic for doing exactly what Malema is talking about?...see the hypocritical world we live in?


Didn't misconstrue anything.You just seem lost in this convo - jumping from one straw to another like you always do.


The bolded is kind like you looking in the mirror,right? I mean you described yourself so perfectly.




Stay on point my guy.

JaceBlaze:


I never really take Malema seriously.Is he blaming the South African authorities for the uncouth behaviour and criminality of Nigerians? how can they send drug units to curtail the problem when they are called xenophobic whenever they do it?South African authorities have been trying to round up illegal immigrants for years but it's not easy rounding up 5 million people overnight and while being called xenophobic while doing what's necessary.Isn't Herman Mashaba called xenophobic for doing exactly what Malema is talking about?...see the hypocritical world we live in?

Stay on point my guy.

MASHABA 4 PRESIDENT!

Malema will just bring us more drug dealers and probably collect rent from them like he does with VBS.

JaceBlaze:



Who's said it does not happen? I said Nigerian drug dealers are not as discussed as many other problems we have in this country

This is your quote below.

JaceBlaze:

Show me where people organised protests against Nigerian drug dealers

JaceBlaze:

after you lied about us not investing as much energy on the real issues like economy and land reform as we do with drugs,and I also dismantled your irony of regurgitating land issue that has been tackled over and over again when you said we are not even aware of the Oppenheimers Hahaa.

Putting words into my mouth again eh! JaceBlaze. The point was not to show that you do not address land reform issues or you do not know who the or what the Oppenheimers are about. I know bantu education was bad but I would expect your History classes would make some mention of this, no?

The objective was to point you to the direction of your own HYPOCRISY in how you dealt with perceived threats in your society aka your Nigerian"foreign" criminal element against "criminals" who are also "foreign" and pale skinned for that matter whom you seem to take no notice off who are busy perpertrating far more worse atrocities behind your back while you debate your land reform in your parliament, but you skip over those observations every single time they are enumerated and claim victory over "debunking" my premise. Very infantile, I must say.

JaceBlaze:

I never really take Malema seriously.Is he blaming the South African authorities for the uncouth behaviour and criminality of Nigerians? how can they send drug units to curtail the problem when they are called xenophobic whenever they do it?South African authorities have been trying to round up illegal immigrants for years but it's not easy rounding up 5 million people overnight and while being called xenophobic while doing what's necessary.Isn't Herman Mashaba called xenophobic for doing exactly what Malema is talking about?...see the hypocritical world we live in?

Excuses excuses!. Who's plan is it to round up 5 million illegals. Why not start first with the few thousands deviant drug dealers eh!. That is a sensible plan. You can come to the illegals later on can't you. Start with criminals. Send them packing. Who is stopping you for god's sake. I don't see any backlash if a known group of Nigerian hustlers and dealers are paraded and deported wit immediate effect. Do it! Do it !..... You can't do it can you.

Julius is right. The man speaks fire on this issue. Every speech he has made concerning Xenophobia, Nigerian drug dealers, illegal migrants, on point. Your Herman Mashaba who is a wanna be leader, under cover xenphobe, who made millions off burning black South African women's hair and torching his own factory for insurance money is here playing to the gallery. I can see through the Hogwash my friend. If he articulated the idea of cleaining up the streets of Joburg with any sense I would be in full support as an outsider and a Nigerian as well but the man is down right s.Tupid and semi literate if you ask my opinion.

JaceBlaze:

Didn't misconstrue anything.You just seem lost in this convo - jumping from one straw to another like you always do.

Everything I mentioned is tied to the very notion I initiated which is, "Nigerian drug dealers and the perceptions and hypocrisy of the average South African citizen". (You like that thesis statement no? HAHAHAHAHA!)

I can tie in any other matter I enumerated here to this premise but its too much for you I get it.

YEBOmadiba:


MASHABA 4 PRESIDENT!

Malema will just bring us more drug dealers and probably collect rent from them like he does with VBS.

If that's the best comeback you can give for Mashaba you should just exit this forum with expediency.

The bumbling speech, google eyed semi literate Mashaba who can't construct a meaningful sentence when he is interviewed in Queen's English and ws systematically kicked out of the DA (please don't say he resigned!). He should stick to speaking his local language so he makes more sense for real.

***shame*** in SOmizi's voice.

morpheus24:


If that's the best comeback you can give for Mashaba you should just exit this forum with expediency.

The bumbling speech, google eyed semi literate Mashaba who can't construct a meaningful sentence when he is interviewed in Queen's English and ws systematically kicked out of the DA (please don't say he resigned!). He should stick to speaking his local language so he makes more sense for real.

***shame*** in SOmizi's voice.

Your own well-spoken house niggers have failed dismissally to develop Nigeria that's why u are crowded in Hillbrow flats like sardines in a tinfish can. The one with the biggest English twang is now being hauled by his bowtie to face investigations for corruption at the AFDB. How typically Nigerian - CORRUPTION.

Mashaba is a self-made multimillionaire who by all indications ran a very successful administration in the City of Johannesburg, and he should replicate that as the President - starting of course with decontaminating and fumigating Hillbrow, Berea, Yeoville and Sunnyside - if u know what I mean

Also read all that in Somizi's voice.

YEBOmadiba:


Your own well-spoken house niggers have failed dismissally to develop Nigeria that's why u are crowded in Hillbrow flats like sardines in a tinfish can. The one with the biggest English twang is now being hauled by his bowtie to face investigations for corruption at the AFDB. How typically Nigerian - CORRUPTION.

Point 1: The write up above does not dimiss the fact that the bumbling speeched, google eyed Herman Masaba is a semi literate who is playing to the gallery. If he articulated a well meaning plan to "clean up" the streets of hilbrow so your kind can come back to the CBD and reclaim your streets that would be one thing. I wouldn't have any problems with that.

Point 2. How about your Camps bay, Hout bays, stellenbosh's and the likes, we have a hand full of "foreigners"...cough cough sorry "expats!" up there practically doing the same thing the Nigerians and illegals are doing in Hillbrow and yeoville, taking up space. Where is the outrage from your Herman Mashaba. Where is your Mmusi Maimanes!

YEBOmadiba:

Mashaba is a self-made multimillionaire who by all indications ran a very successful administration in the City of Johannesburg, and he should replicate that as the President - starting of course with decontaminating and fumigating Hillbrow, Berea, Yeoville and Sunnyside - if u know what I mean

Also read all that in Somizi's voice.

Self made millionaire my ass. You mean he hid behind some White people's names to make money from selling lye to burn the scalps of South African ladies hair, right. True capitalism at its finest don't you think.

I actually want those streets cleared out, those poor illegals are living a pipe dream. There is nothing in South Africa for them save to serve White monopoly capital. If they had any sense they would know they are being used as pawns in a vision-less government attempts at masking their owne inefficiencies and inability to deliver anything to the people instead of begging white monopoly capital to come rescue them.

Riddle me this:

How do these immigrants deter South Africans from creating jobs?
How do they hinder you from tapping into any resource in your communities or country as a whole?
What resources as a total of your budget is allocated to taking care of these "refugees", illegals e.t.c.
What jobs are they competing against the average citizen, car washing, serving in restuarants. Please tell me?

If these illegals are driven out of their small enclaves in Hilbrow and Yeoville, What is the government planning on doing with the newly acquired real estate. Will the average South Africanbe given opportunities to develop it or will it be sold to the highest bidder ? Will you be given the opportunity to buy real estate there and build wealth?

Has Mashaba outlined how you benefit short term and long term from the total removal of this eye sore in your down town area? Point me to the speech, write up, memo. I would very much like to see it.

If we isolate this issue of illegals occupying these areas and say for the sake of argument they are the cause of the majority of problems that you guys can't stand, where are the shinning examples of cities, towns etc that these immigrants are not in and what strides and developments have they made that can be used as an argument for the complete removal of these illegals form the city area?

morpheus24:


This is your quote below.





Putting words into my mouth again eh! JaceBlaze. The point was not to show that you do not address land reform issues or you do not know who the or what the Oppenheimers are about. I know bantu education was bad but I would expect your History classes would make some mention of this, no?

The objective was to point you to the direction of your own HYPOCRISY in how you dealt with perceived threats in your society aka your Nigerian"foreign" criminal element against "criminals" who are also "foreign" and pale skinned for that matter whom you seem to take no notice off who are busy perpertrating far more worse atrocities behind your back while you debate your land reform in your parliament, but you skip over those observations every single time they are enumerated and claim victory over "debunking" my premise. Very infantile, I must say.





Excuses excuses!. Who's plan is it to round up 5 million illegals. Why not start first with the few thousands deviant drug dealers eh!. That is a sensible plan. You can come to the illegals later on can't you. Start with criminals. Send them packing. Who is stopping you for god's sake. I don't see any backlash if a known group of Nigerian hustlers and dealers are paraded and deported wit immediate effect. Do it! Do it !..... You can't do it can you.

Julius is right. The man speaks fire on this issue. Every speech he has made concerning Xenophobia, Nigerian drug dealers, illegal migrants, on point. Your Herman Mashaba who is a wanna be leader, under cover xenphobe, who made millions off burning black South African women's hair and torching his own factory for insurance money is here playing to the gallery. I can see through the Hogwash my friend. If he articulated the idea of cleaining up the streets of Joburg with any sense I would be in full support as an outsider and a Nigerian as well but the man is down right s.Tupid and semi literate if you ask my opinion.



Everything I mentioned is tied to the very notion I initiated which is, "Nigerian drug dealers and the perceptions and hypocrisy of the average South African citizen". (You like that thesis statement no? HAHAHAHAHA!)

I can tie in any other matter I enumerated here to this premise but its too much for you I get it.

Was that an organised protest March? That word "ORGANISED" is very important.Focus,Morphy!!!...focus!!!

Show me where South Africans were marching with placards calling for removal of illegal foreigners.Can you?


Your "objective" is very foolish then.I'm sorry

You said we can't seem to round up illegal criminals and few Nigerian drug dealers and the turn around say we treat them far worse that pale skinned foreigners? You end confusing yourself in the quest of faking intelligence...smart dumb Morpheus

PROXIMITY - xenophobia usually occurs in low income communities where locals and foreign nationals (Nigerians included) seem to be in a fierce battle for limited resources,and sometimes criminal elements take over and loot shops,and majority of us don't support this lootings and we demonstrated by marching against this.But you won't bring that up because it will break your one-sided narrative to tiny pieces.


There was a special operation for removal of drug dealers.You think them too weren't at the receiving end of nasty name calling? They were called "Afrophobic","xenophobic",etc while doing it,so what really is your point?


I don't know what the bolded got to do with everything,maybe rather I not intervene in your personal hatred for Herman but I think it's funny how he makes you uncomfortable? LoL

BTW can you point Mashaba's faults on how he handled the situation in Johannesberg?


The emboldened is very funny because Nigerian criminals are treated far worse in other countries.Did you not see how the FBI singled out only 6 Nigerian criminals amongst 70 criminals of other nationalities in the US? what does that tell you?

We are not the bogeyman you trying to make us to be LMAO





Come and collect your L.

morpheus24:

Point 1: The write up above does not dimiss the fact that the bumbling speeched, google eyed Herman Masaba is a semi literate who is playing to the gallery. If he articulated a well meaning plan to "clean up" the streets of hilbrow so your kind can come back to the CBD and reclaim your streets that would be one thing. I wouldn't have any problems with that.

Point 2. How about your Camps bay, Hout bays, stellenbosh's and the likes, we have a hand full of "foreigners"...cough cough sorry "expats!" up there practically doing the same thing the Nigerians and illegals are doing in Hillbrow and yeoville, taking up space. Where is the outrage from your Herman Mashaba. Where is your Mmusi Maimanes!



Self made millionaire my ass. You mean he hid behind some White people's names to make money from selling lye to burn the scalps of South African ladies hair, right. True capitalism at its finest don't you think.

I actually want those streets cleared out, those poor illegals are living a pipe dream. There is nothing in South Africa for them save to serve White monopoly capital. If they had any sense they would know they are being used as pawns in a vision-less government attempts at masking their owne inefficiencies and inability to deliver anything to the people instead of begging white monopoly capital to come rescue them.

Riddle me this:

How do these immigrants deter South Africans from creating jobs?
How do they hinder you from tapping into any resource in your communities or country as a whole?
What resources as a total of your budget is allocated to taking care of these "refugees", illegals e.t.c.
What jobs are they competing against the average citizen, car washing, serving in restuarants. Please tell me?

If these illegals are driven out of their small enclaves in Hilbrow and Yeoville, What is the government planning on doing with the newly acquired real estate. Will the average South Africanbe given opportunities to develop it or will it be sold to the highest bidder ? Will you be given the opportunity to buy real estate there and build wealth?

Has Mashaba outlined how you benefit short term and long term from the total removal of this eye sore in your down town area? Point me to the speech, write up, memo. I would very much like to see it.

If we isolate this issue of illegals occupying these areas and say for the sake of argument they are the cause of the majority of problems that you guys can't stand, where are the shinning examples of cities, towns etc that these immigrants are not in and what strides and developments have they made that can be used as an argument for the complete removal of these illegals form the city area?

Are u for real, I'm not reading all this. Leave SA politicians alone, u don't see us commenting on yours'. We don't even know who they are.