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Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Nobody: 10:55am On Jul 19, 2020 |
my friend is christian but stopped tithing when he found out that a junior pastor stole tithes worth N15 million in the space of 9 months by collecting cheques and opening an account in the name of the church in another bank using church documents and fake signatories. God did nothing and he left the church to form his own. - no repercussions My friend is wealthy without tithing 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by seguno2: 10:56am On Jul 19, 2020 |
emrain: Christians are not required to pay tithes. EOD! 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Enoch07: 11:04am On Jul 19, 2020 |
seguno2:even the least 50cent omo these men no pay sef 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by adetunjioludami(m): 11:14am On Jul 19, 2020 |
Errm a quick one, All y'all that doesn't pay tithe, Since you have not been paying, what has happened to the church of God ![]() At least IV seen almost 100 comments on nairaland from non tithers, millions of people don't pay tithe and still the Church of God is waxing stronger!!!! LEAVE TITHERS ALONE AND FACE YOUR LIFE. We are mumu,we are foolish ehn leave us oh ye wise ones!!!!! If you and your generation doesn't pay tithe forever, nothing will happen. God would still be God and his servants would still be flying jets!!!! |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by donmarshia(m): 11:16am On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf: Did Jesus talk about tithing? I really would like to learn. All I have heard about tithing is from the old testament before Christ came and died for us. There are several laws in the old testament which are completely ignored but tithing is always the focus. I addition to learning which I am very open to, my opinion is that the bible teaches giving as an attitude. A willingness to always help as opposed to hoarding. |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by awoluyi(m): 11:16am On Jul 19, 2020 |
It appears tithing is the only issue in the entire Holy Bible that needs to be discussed regularly. The Arabs will soon land on Mars while we dissipate energy on a matter that can easily be understood if one reads the scriptures. Despite the so-called prosperity the payment of tithes has brought to us, Nigeria is now regarded as the poverty capital of the whole wild world. Ironically Nigeria produces the richest preacher of material prosperity. Discussing how to bring back qualitative and functional education, better Medicare services, equitable distribution of our resources and justice to the nation should be our preoccupation in the 21st century. We should wake up to the reality, Nigeria is lagging and out of phase with the rest of the civilised world. 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by DarkJeddi(m): 11:17am On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf:Shame of not paying tithe? ![]() Nigga ain't no shame in how I decide to spend my hard earned money.. I should give 10% of my money to someone that is already a billionaire? ![]() God punish Devil.. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by DarkJeddi(m): 11:22am On Jul 19, 2020 |
petra1:Story for the gods.. Givers with pot bellies.. 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by chigoziri2403(m): 11:25am On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf:where did God ask you to give him 10% 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Abiodunstephen(m): 11:25am On Jul 19, 2020 |
gospelpen: I will say this, I am a tithe payer, but I have told my pastor several times that they should change the name, because from what the Bible says in Leviticus, tithe should not be paid in cash but in food, secondly tithe is not weekly basis but every three years, so if you pay it in monetary way and weekly it means you are going against the commandment. in Malachi we are using is says "bring ye tithe to my house so that there will be food", not money. even in Leviticus it warned Israelites that if you are leaving far from Jerusalem and you want to pay your tithe, first convert in to money that is if you can carry the food because of the distance, and when you get to Jerusalem, go and buy what pleases you and set it down with the levite and destitute and your house hold, eat it with them. which means tithe is not only for pastor but even for poor and even you must eat from it. 4 Likes |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Samysearch(m): 11:25am On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf:Are u being sarcastic? |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by DarkJeddi(m): 11:28am On Jul 19, 2020 |
emrain:Who Christianity help? What is the positive impact of Christianity on Africa and Nigeria in particular? Japan,China,India,Russia, Saudi Arabia and most other advanced nations with low number of Christians.. How are we better than them with the Christianity we carry for head? These people want to keep Africans perpetually subjugated with religion,by threats of fire and brimstone if you don't do what their interpretation of the Bible says.. Well,furck them!! ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by KingRollins01(m): 11:33am On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf:Do you or ur pastor obey tithing according to Deut 14:22-29? 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Flyingngel(m): 11:33am On Jul 19, 2020 |
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Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by BackllGodNaija: 11:36am On Jul 19, 2020 |
StubbornGENIUS:Why not show just one that disputes it. Many verses spoke of how much he helped the poor, but none of tithes. 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Burstbrain(m): 11:45am On Jul 19, 2020 |
Let me check how many Chinese pay there tithe that made them so successful 3 Likes
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Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Globad(f): 11:49am On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf: God doesn't need a dime of your income. Was God not surviving before the coming of christianity? If you must give, give directly to the needy and not through any intermediary/pastor. Na there corruption dey start 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by llade(m): 11:51am On Jul 19, 2020 |
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Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Abdogood(m): 11:58am On Jul 19, 2020 |
Anyone who believe in tithing should continue.. And if you don't, then let it be.... Tithing is not a gateway to paradise. There more important teachings in the bible which requires an adjustment in our behavioral attitude towards our daily living in accord to the teachings of Christ. I believe God does not need your 10cent to bless you. The beauty of the gospel for me is that Christ didn't collect any tithe. He didnt bring any church too. He brought the good news. The law above all laws is to love God and ur neighbor as urself. For years now. I don't pay tithe. Yet i dont go broke which I am contented with. I pay my parents tithe monthly. And they prayers works wonders. If only Africans obey God's laws the way they obey tithing. African will be a better place today. If truly religion is what they say it, Nigeria will have been the best country in the world. We have more churches/Mosques then schools and businesses. Yet we deeps in corruption, wickedness, selfishness all kind of nothing good. Even the Pastors are not helping the matter all. The Bible said you couldn't differentiate Christ from his disciples. One day one day una eyes go open to the truth. Just as Covid19 has open the eyes of few to the idealogy of religion. We will be alright las las... 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by igboamakaaa: 12:03pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf:You are not Giving God any freaking 10% you are enriching one con man somewhere who decieves and swindles you off your money. If you want to Give back to God, go to the hospitals and pay bills of people who cant afford to, Go and pay for the bail release of unlawfully conscripted prisoners, go and support orphanages, sponsor poor families to get small buisness that will break them out of poverty line, and send the wards which are wasting away to school. You will see the bountiful blessings of Good health and unending happiness that will flow in your life afterwards. It is written in the bible, "in as much as you do these to the least of the brethren, you do these also to me". Are these not the kind of things Jesus would have done? Elohim is not a human that has accounts littered here and there. He does not wear gold, does not eat human food and does not live in human made houses, Even his Son Jesus whim he sent as a messiah to liberate us from the shackles of sin and everlasting death didn't ride horses and chariots when he was on earth, he didnt wear long flowing purple robes nor did he or his followers rob the rich or poor of their belongings in the name of 10%. Whenever a follower of Christ sold a piece of land, got a lot of profits from a buisness or wanted to donate funds, HE BROUGHT IT TO THE CONGREGATION OF BELIEVERS and it WAS SHARED EQUALLY AMONG ALL so that there was no rich nor poor among them. This was one of the reasons they were called 'Christians' in Antioch. The people of antioch said to themselves, "see how they love one another". STOP FUNDING THESE CON MEN'S FLAMBOYANT LIFESTYLE. They are only after your money, that's all. When they get enough, they use these same funds to open multiple buisness centres (churches) that bring forth more revenue to them. They do not serve YHWH Elohim nor are they followers of his Son Yeshua ha mansiach (Jesus Christ). They are wolves milking the poor dry and promising them paradise in heaven (which they are not going to enter). Use your heads people!!! Church is the most lucrative buisness in Nigeria atm, you dont need much capital, just N1000 bible will do. You just have to learn how to deceive people and tell them what they want to hear and in the long run.....obtain fetish powers from magicians, that's all. You'd be a billionaire (and you wont even have to pay tax on the massive profit returns). True followers of God ought not to be fed with milk, you all should start eating solid food by now. GO AND READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!! Pray to God for Wisdom and insights before doing so and he would unravel the mysteries that lie therein. Go and research on the books that were taken out of the bible, read them and you will see why the europeans (who destroyed Israel, carted away all the holy scrolls and modelled God, his Son and all his servants on earth to be 'white, european looking people) did what they did just to be called the 'supreme race'. After doing all these, you will see that there is a huge difference between the followers of God in the Bible and the "Buisness men, their slave controllers and the slaves who have refused to reason" kind of religion being practiced today. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Queen500: 12:06pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
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Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by fairheart(m): 12:11pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf: It is Christians like you that distort the tenet of God! May I tell you that in Nigeria, even thiefy politicians pay tithe. I mean, there are politicians who pays 10% on their shady deals to the pastor they look up to, yet the money the tithe was taken was meant for, let us say, healthcare development, or road infrastructure. Is this acceptable to God? I have realised that most Nigerians are ignorant and too weak for the truth. When you tell them the truth, they take it as a lie. If tithing is so important as you and other pastors emphasize on it, God Himself would have used His own Hand to include it in the 10 commandment. But it is not there. God doesn't curse or deject His children because they don't give Him money that He doesn't spend. He only command us to love Him and others. The money you give to the Church goes toward its works and the needy. You don't have to pay tithe to Love God. God bless you 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by fairheart(m): 12:15pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf:I have been reading your comment. First, you need to see the conflict in your views. You don't seem to know how to harmonise your thought. You said if someone doesn't pay tithe then they cannot obey God, then the guy ask: if they pay tithe, can they fully obey God, you said no. Check the meaning of logic and rational thinking. You are conflicting yourself abeg. Small kids coming on Nairaland to say things they don't understand. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
So only tithing is the law of God you should obey, sins and all types of iniquities are multiplying in many folds and taking over Nigeria and you are more concerned with paying tithe, pay tithe by giving God your heart, God is interested in the purity of your heart than the sacrifice of giving money to your church. delkuf: 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by fairheart(m): 12:17pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
The only commandment that is still valid is the only set of commandment God Himself wrote with His own Hand. THE 10 commandment. [img][/img]
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Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by AnanseK(m): 12:19pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
Ask Dangote. Ignorance is your problem. You don’t even have to be a Christian to be rich 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by fairheart(m): 12:21pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
The infallible rule of wealth? 1. Work hard and smart. 2. Create value or service that meets need or provide wants (people's desire) 3.Stay on a single purpose 4. Become an expert and very skilled in what you do 5. Manage your time and finance 6. Give to the less privilege 7. Pray to God 8. If you go to Church, give offering as your heart desire; don't be forced 9. Avoid friends and family that wants to run down your business Always repeat item one to the last. God will prosper you Tithing does not promise and give wealth. This is the truth! 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Amumaigwe: 12:23pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf: Invariably, if you can obey God in tithing, it confirms that you can fully obey God? 1 Like |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by promisedeco(m): 12:27pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
Stallion93:So, all the people who lost there money's to MMM don't pay tithe shebi? ![]() |
Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by sowilli: 12:30pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
chijokz:many of you miss the mystery of tithing. There are somethings that don’t answer to Gods prayer but God has given nature the power to make them available as long as humans obey the laws. For instance, Imagine if man decides to destroy and kill all the plants in the whole world, will he have oxygen to breathe, even if he prays for a hundred years will he? It’s same with prosperity. It only answers to giving and one of the giving is tithing. If you are opportune with 100 non Christian billionaires, you will find out they all tithe. I have heard Alhaijis bringing millions of into the church. Do you think Dangote visited that pastor when his wife died because of just visit.They have a relationship and many of this rich Muslims tithe. It’s not only Christians that tithe. Don’t bother about what a pastor makes, do your part of the law. The problem is there are fake prophets who are just out for tithes and this abuse. There will always be fake prophets btw. Remember the case of Eli’s sons. Tithing is a law everyone who aspire to be wealthy must obey! Please google Rhonda Byrne ... she is not a pastor
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Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Dotng: 12:31pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
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Re: Can There Be Prosperity Without The Tithe? - John Avanzini by Nobody: 12:32pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
delkuf: God didn't command you as a Christian to pay tithes. It's part of the old law given to the ISRAELITES. The situation with some Christians is exactly what was happening in Apostle Paul's time concerning circumcision. The Jews that became Christians were trying to force it on the gentile Christians and Paul was kicking against it as a burden that wasn't meant for Christians. It is not bad for one to decide to pay one-tenth (or any percentage) to God's work. But all these "curses, cankerworm punishment" talk is big time manipulation. When a Christian starts saying that it's a command for Christians to pay tithes it's either he is ignorant or downright dubious. 1 Like |
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