Liposure:
At the end of the day, Women are like recycled products. They are used, dumped and used again by men

We understand this. But you know you won't continue to use and dump them forever . That's the point we are trying to make here. Won't you want to settle down one day?

Except we want to have kids out of wedlock, no player will continue to be a player forever. That is the point we are driving at here. Of course, guys between the age of 20 to 30 definitely do play around.

But as you age further, a time will come when you will say, you will want to settle down. That's the time you will have to compromise on some of your games just to be a responsible husband and father to your kids.

When that time comes, you can't possibly be jumping from one pussy to the other due to your kids and the determination to bring your kids up well.

That is the time every one time player will have to drop his boots and be a responsible husband and father.

stanliwise:
Strange as it sounds you made alot sense. I know many wouldn't try to understand what you mean especially the guys that has declare their pills red. or the ones who has been dealt with mercilessly by hoes and gold-diggers. Their line of thought has entered a defensive mode and they decide to hate women with all their might.

Red pills are for ladies who play games. There are ladies who don't play games and are genuine, but red-pill advise the boys to throw all of them into same basket thereby creating an occult of men who will regenerate the same event that led to the creation of our so called women protestant "The feminist". Red pills will not solve man-women problems, instead it will only lead to mutation of new kind of women resistant and strange feministic behaviors from women.

As for me I am out of this general opinion of people. "Style" From "The game" remains my mentor till date. I like his philosophy because he among all other PUA encourage people to treat hoes as hoes. and ladies as ladies. same with David Angelo. I don't think it is nice to place all gender into same basket and treat them in a particular manner all in the name of not been called a "SIMP". Doing this is nothing but turning the table around and becoming the male-versions of the hoes and gold diggers you complained about. You treat both the genuine and nicest people with bad omen and attitudes, play games with ordinary people, Bleep hoes and typical ladies.

At the end of the day you find it difficult to build trust and you later enter a mode of distrust for all women. Same women you will later pick a wife from, And until you are 50 you will keep changing women one after the other because they will all leave at a certain point due to your insecurities and constant unfaithfulness.

I think you and the guy you quoted are missing the OP's point.

This isn't about treating hoes as hoes and ladies as ladies. It isn't about not being nice to women because a certain lady somewhere said so.

It's something every male can relate to.





You've this lady you like, you're nice to her and you've done your best to make her understand that you love but she won't date you. She'd rather keep you as a friend so she can always get advice from you when her azzhole boyfriend fvcks her up.

And you are always there to give her a shoulder to cry on. If you no longer experience this, it means you no longer roll with ladies that are in this category. It means you date those that have passed through this phase but fact is, the phase exists.

In secondary school, the intelligent nice guy has the most female friends, but only the rough guys get the opportunity to press their breasts(sex was uncommon during our time)

What the poster is saying may not apply to all women but a lot of them are like that.

Mcslize:


We understand this. But you know you won't continue to use and dump them forever . That's the point we are trying to make here. Won't you want to settle down one day?

Except we want to have kids out of wedlock, no player will continue to be a player forever. That is the point we are driving at here. Of course, guys between the age of 20 to 30 definitely do play around.

But as you age further, a time will come when you will say, you will want to settle down. That's the time you will have to compromise on some of your games just to be a responsible husband and father to your kids.

When that time comes, you can't possibly be jumping from one pussy to the other due to your kids and the determination to bring your kids up well.

That is the time every one time player will have to drop his boots and be a responsible husband and father.

The big question is how do you pick a good woman for marriage? Most girls nowadays are not ready to make sacrifices through love. They also do not know what marriage is all about.

Mcslize:


You are right. There are still some few good girls out there. That was why I said in one of my previous posts that we can't continue like this into marriage.

If we carry this mindset of maltreating a woman into marriage, we won't have a blissful marriage. There will always be quarrel and that will affect the kids one will have.

A situation where a man is being an ass hole and maltreating the wife will definitely affect the kids such men will have with their partners.

They will still end up being products of a broken home because the man chose to be an ass hole and not being able to control his home order than applying games and tactics on the wife.

People like that might end up divorcing in the end if the man is not able to be a responsible husband and father to his own family. That's why every man should apply wisdom when it comes to applying the redpill. If a man who truly wants to have a family of his own take the redpill too extreme, it can break his home and not enjoy a blissful marriage life.

As a guy, in as much as I don't take nonsense from the oppisite sex, I won't want to be an ass hole type of father or husband in the future to my partner. I should be able to earn the respect of my partner without applying tactics and games.

Having the knowledge of the redpill is good but aspiring husbands shouldn't take that into marriage as it has the possibility of shattering a marriage if not applied with wisdom to prevent one from having a broken marriage in the future.

well said.
IMO I even advise most guys not to join the redpill bus. You may never know when you have gotten to your bustop.
People should read social intelligence books.
I recommend Neil strauss.
He wrote "The game" which talk about being a game player.
He wrote "The truth", the aftermath of a player life and the dead end of such road and how to keep important people you.

etrange:

If you're not nice, you're not. If you're nice, you won't think about it before being nice to your lover. If your being nice sends her away, thank your stars and look for someone receptive of your nice nature. And if you're not nice, someone who likes un-nice guys will gladly take you. Just don't claim you're doing it for the ladies, you are who you are.

Pls believe this, the HOE phase is real.
Every woman has that hoe phase deep down, if she hasn't shown it yet, she hasn't seen temptation or hardship

Tallesty1:
I think you and the guy you quoted are missing the OP's point.

This isn't about treating hoes as hoes and ladies as ladies. It isn't about not being nice to women because a certain lady somewhere said so.

It's something every male can relate to.





You've this lady you like, you're nice to her and you've done your best to make her understand that you love but she won't date you. She'd rather keep you as a friend so she can always get advice from you when her azzhole boyfriend fvcks her up.

And you are always there to give her a shoulder to cry on. If you no longer experience this, it means you no longer roll with ladies that are in this category. It means you date those that have passed through this phase but fact is, the phase exists.

In secondary school, the intelligent nice guy has the most female friends, but only the rough guys get the opportunity to press their breasts(sex was uncommon during our time)

What the poster is saying may not apply to all women but a lot of them are like that.

Read "The truth" by Neil strauss.
He talked about how being a rough guy who gets every girl latter ends up been the guy who never settles for any girl. The tales of every player.
The OP above is painting a picture of typical life style of ladies who are game players. But we have 7 billion people in the world. There are many ladies who aren't anything like that but the redpiller has this saying...
"Every woman is hoe" and also goes "they just need the right man to bring it out".
A view of a typical pímp man and women manipulator.

I have played a lot of games and at the end of the day I realized it just nothing but an extreme view. Yes it has some truth but it is also a facade for a a cult of people against women.

southniyikaye:
Pls believe this, the HOE phase is real.
Every woman has that hoe phase deep down, if she hasn't shown it yet, she hasn't seen temptation or hardship

That's very true. And it's usually between 16-22.

Na so

Crownstar01:
The big question is how do you pick a good woman for marriage? Most girls nowadays are not ready to make sacrifices through love. They also do not know what marriage is all about.

You can tell if a lady wants to build a future with you. If you are dating any girl who doesn't support you or have genuine interest in you order than what you are offering her, simply leave her. She is not the right one for you.

You just need to be observant to tell if a girl truly loves you or just merely feeding on you. Waste no time to leave such a lady. When the time comes for you to chose a partner, just be yourself and be closely observant of any female you come across, you will definitely find one that will have genuine interest in you even without spending any dime on her.

When you see such a lady, get to know her and ask questions. Always ask questions so as to know about her past. And if she suits your conscience, go for her and make provision to settle down.

Mcslize:


You can tell if a lady wants to build a future with you. If you are dating any girl who doesn't support you or have genuine interest in you order than what you are offering her, simply leave her. She is not the right one for you.

You just need to be observant to tell if a girl truly loves you or just merely feeding on you. Waste no time to leave such a lady. When the time comes for you to chose a partner, just be yourself and be closely observant of any female you come across, you will definitely find one that will have genuine interest in you even without spending any dime on her.

When you see such a lady, get to know her and ask questions. Always ask questions so as to know about her past. And if she suits your conscience, go for her and make provision to settle down.

True but the truth of the matter is you can't date a Nigerian girl without spending a dime. Otherwise she would be call you "stingy."

Crownstar01:
That's very true. And it's usually between 16-22.

22 and 30 actually

25 to 40 for the married ones

southniyikaye:
22 and 30 actually

No. When a woman is above 25 years old, she starts to get worried about her ability to get married.

Crownstar01:
The problem here is most Nigerian girls always behave awkward whenever you are good to them whereas if you act the other way round, they intend to care more about you.

The way you handle a woman, that's what she will be to you. When you are dating a girl, have the wisdom to be able to figure out when you are being used and when not being used.

Be the man but don't be a dictator. Know when to draw the line.

There is no girl I will be with that will misbehave. That is because I apply wisdom in any relationship I am in. I am not saying you should be a simp type of guy that every lady will prey on.

Command respect with your action and attitude when dating any lady. She will value you.

The present girl I am dating knows I don't take nonsens and the respect is there. I just be myself. I don't grant all her wishes. I know when to say yes and when to say no. And that's how you earn the respect of your partner.

You need to tell her what you like and what you hate and point it out to her if she misbehave, you won't mind walking away (Let me not use the word dump).

When your partner knows what you like and hate, she will behave well.

While I won't advice any guy to be a simp, definitely know when to draw the line and apply wisdom in your dealings with someone you chose to be your partner.

Crownstar01:
No. When a woman is above 25 years old, she starts to get worried about her ability to get married.

bro, talking from experience and have seen alot

Mcslize:


The way you handle a woman, that's what she will be to you. When you are dating a girl, have the wisdom to be able to figure out when you are being used and when not being used.

Be the man but don't be a dictator. Know when to draw the line.

There is no girl I will be with that will misbehave. That is because I apply wisdom in any relationship I am in. I am not saying you should be a simp type of guy that every lady will prey on.

Command respect with your action and attitude when dating any lady. She will value you.

The present girl I am dating knows I don't take nonsens and the respect is there. I just be myself. I don't grant all her wishes. I know when to say yes and when to say no. And that's how you earn the respect of your partner.

You need to tell her what you like and what you hate and point it out to her if she misbehave, you won't mind walking away (Let me not use the word dump).

When your partner knows what you like and hate, she will behave well.

While I won't advice any guy to be a simp, definitely know when to draw the line and apply wisdom in your dealings with someone you chose to be your partner.

Have you scored yet?

stanliwise:
well said.
IMO I even advise most guys not to join the redpill bus. You may never know when you have gotten to your bustop.
People should read social intelligence books.
I recommend Neil strauss.
He wrote "The game" which talk about being a game player.
He wrote "The truth", the aftermath of a player life and the dead end of such road and how to keep important people you.

Exactly. Every guy will definitely have a final bus stop except fort those that have made up their mind not to raise a responsible family or whomsimply wants to be baby fathers.

It's a personal choice.

Crownstar01:
Have you scored yet?

Haba why not? That one no be question na. She is even scared to lose me. That's how it should be. So she don't misbehave.

That how to earn a girl's respect. I don't even spend on her except I chose to on my own preference not because she wants me to.

This thread further highlights why parents should train their kids to have high self esteem and place a premium on themselves.

How can a guy who has high self esteem, place a premium on time and emotions be friend zoned?

If I am not good enough to be your boyfriend /lover or if you have one, go meet him when you need an errand boy. How can a guy under the guise of 'nice guy' invest his emotions in someone not reciprocating?

How can a girl claim to be naive and stay with a guy that treats her like trash? Where is her instinct of self preservation to say 'I feel disrespected by X, Y and Z? And address the concerns she has?

Is it lack of love at home or dysfunctionality that lets someone choose emotional pain instead of pleasure?

The problem is not the' niceness of the guy': the problem is his lack of assertion and not knowing his worth.

That's why I will always be a fan of relatively young relationships. Mr. Nice Guy and Ms. Nice girl meet young and stay with themselves.

Parents, train your kids well emotionally.

southniyikaye:
bro, talking from experience and have seen alot

You don't have to. You've got to start moving. You've got to force yourself to move, even if initially at first you don't feel like moving. Your emotions, your state, follows your physical motion. Because remember the other rule of state. That resistance is going to weigh on you at first.

stanliwise:
well said.
IMO I even advise most guys not to join the redpill bus. You may never know when you have gotten to your bustop.
People should read social intelligence books.
I recommend Neil strauss.
He wrote "The game" which talk about being a game player.
He wrote "The truth", the aftermath of a player life and the dead end of such road and how to keep important people you.

Even time I read red pill, I laugh because it is not sustainable.

It is in stages: the Alpha Bleep of today is the Beta Bucks in the next ten years.

In the Alpha Bleep years, the guy might have lost the woman who truly loves and believes in him. At that stage, all he has are his visions and how to achieve them. He laughs at the Beta Buck until he realizes 20 years later, he has done same thing:

Hustled hard do he will get a wife that will 'respect' him aka Beta Bucks

Everything in this life has principles: any deviation most likely ends in tears.

stanliwise:
Read "The truth" by Neil strauss.
He talked about how being a rough guy who gets every girl latter ends up been the guy who never settles for any girl

Does this change what the lady is saying?

Tallesty1:
Does this change what the lady is saying?

why did you cut off the rest of my mention?

bukatyne:


Even time I read red pill, I laugh because it is not sustainable.

It is in stages: the Alpha Bleep of today is the Beta Bucks in the next ten years.

In the Alpha Bleep years, the guy might have lost the woman who truly loves and believes in him. At that stage, all he has are his visions and how to achieve them. He laughs at the Beta Buck until he realizes 20 years later, he has done same thing:

Hustled hard do he will get a wife that will 'respect' him aka Beta Bucks

Everything in this life has principles: any deviation most likely ends in tears.

I am glad someone else understands the complexity. Well said

Mcslize:


Haba why not? That one no be question na. She is even scared to lose me. That's how it should be. So she don't misbehave.

That how to earn a girl's respect. I don't even spend on her except I chose to on my own preference not because she wants me to.

She's only waiting for you to propose or marry her before she starts to demand things from you. Women can be controversial at times. Saying something like when we were dating, didn't you spend money on me or didn't I ask you for anything? LOL!

Anyway, it seems you guys are having a good relationship. But bear in mind that women always say the opposite of what they mean...you should know that.

Stop dashing Good guy's hope Jo!

Crownstar01:
You don't have to. You've got to start moving. You've got to force yourself to move, even if initially at first you don't feel like moving. Your emotions, your state, follows your physical motion. Because remember the other rule of state. That resistance is going to weigh on you at first.

lol, I Don move tey tey but it will always still be "speaking from experience"
That's why it is called experience

Mcslize:
Of course, there is the hoe phase in every lady. That's why if you look very well, ladies between the age of 18 to 24yrs always live in fantasy.

They hardly have a realistic view of what they want in life. They want to get all the attentions so much that it makes them think irrationally.

They don't have clear cut of what life entails in general that's why they waste away their youthful age jumping from one dick to another.

Now, we hardly have virgins. If we should hold all of them accountable for how they hoed around during their youthful age, all men won't want to settle down.

But procreation must continue. At a time, you just have to fulfill nature call by settling down with the one that is not completely damaged.

As it is now, virgins are rare to find. You will hardly come across virgin girls these days.

And as a guy, you will not continue to toy around with all those girls so u must still in one day want to settle down except for those that just want to be baby Fathers.

And when that time comes to settle down, you won't actually put up your player's mode with the girl u want to have as a partner.


That's why lots of guy still get married today. If you are between the age of 30 to 40 as a guy, a time will come when u will want to have your own family and when the time comes, you will not because that a lot of ladies hoed around at their primes won't let you want to settle down and fulfil nature mandate of procreation.

For those that will want to have a family of their own will still marry irrespective of the fact that so many girls hoed around in their youthful age. That doesn't mean, you will be a simp. You merely just have to fulfil nature call.

You keep repeating yourself

Same point in different paragraphs

stanliwise:
Same for you too, I know you are the author of the so-called red-pills on nairaland. As much as your opinion seem effective against some set of women. It is very dangerous when used against genuine people in ones life. I rest my case.

Download and read,The Rational Male; Positive Masculinity by Rollo Tomassi
You'd truly understand what ubanja said about a woman being 2 different things to 2 different men.
I also understand what you mean by genuine women.

bukatyne:


@bold:

Words on Marble.

@OP:

People should know their worth and NOT settle for less. If you are a nice guy that stayed focus while younger, look for a wholesome woman that can appreciate the niceness to the table. Not the one broken or gone through the 'hoe' phrase aka explorers.

If as a young girl you stayed focus and kept your self sexually or had has minimal partners as possible, watch out for a nice guy that appreciate and deserve the wholesomeness you bring to the table.

Let the hoes and other garden tools enjoy themselves.

Bukatyne on the beat
Your advice is sweet o

Mcslize:
Of course, there is the hoe phase in every lady. That's why if you look very well, ladies between the age of 18 to 24yrs always live in fantasy.

They hardly have a realistic view of what they want in life. They want to get all the attentions so much that it makes them think irrationally.

They don't have clear cut of what life entails in general that's why they waste away their youthful age jumping from one dick to another.

Now, we hardly have virgins. If we should hold all of them accountable for how they hoed around during their youthful age, all men won't want to settle down.

But procreation must continue. At a time, you just have to fulfill nature call by settling down with the one that is not completely damaged.

As it is now, virgins are rare to find. You will hardly come across virgin girls these days.

And as a guy, you will not continue to toy around with all those girls so u must still in one day want to settle down except for those that just want to be baby Fathers.

And when that time comes to settle down, you won't actually put up your player's mode with the girl u want to have as a partner.


That's why lots of guy still get married today. If you are between the age of 30 to 40 as a guy, a time will come when u will want to have your own family and when the time comes, you will not because that a lot of ladies hoed around at their primes won't let you want to settle down and fulfil nature mandate of procreation.

For those that will want to have a family of their own will still marry irrespective of the fact that so many girls hoed around in their youthful age. That doesn't mean, you will be a simp. You merely just have to fulfil nature call.

You're very wrong virgins aren't hard to find. They're many. Too many in fact.

Crownstar01:
She's only waiting for you to propose or marry her before she starts to demand things from you. Women can be controversial at times. Saying something like when we were dating, didn't you spend money on me or didn't I ask you for anything? LOL!

Anyway, it seems you guys are having a good relationship. But bear in mind that women always say the opposite of what they mean...you should know that.

Of course, I am still watching her. I am still doing my own underground verification to be sure she is who she claimed to be.

Although, she seems kinda genuine. For now, I have not seen any underground skeleton in her cupboard.

I always tell her she is free to misbehave if she deemed fit but she knows the repercursion of such.

In essence, simply know how to handle a woman and know when to draw the line. I have been playing around for too long. There was a time I decided to stay off babes for 6 months before I met her. Focusing more on my hustle.

she never believed I was single cuz she always says she don't believe a guy like me will be single that girls should be rushing me.

I simply told her I chose not to be rushed and I am just giving her a try if she mess up I won't get walked up at all.

ubunja:
guess you don't know a woman can be two different things to two different men. A woman is a mirror. She becomes what you expect women to be. Keep up please

The Red Pill is eternal.
Death to simps.

I can't believe my eyes......ubunja is back....lol

They don't understand women's dual mating strategy. So, let the simps keep on wailing.

Simps giving advices........o my goodness