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Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by fuckboys: 10:22am On Jul 26, 2020
paulolee:
have said it countless times...we enjoy football the more without VAR than now that its introducced because the regular stops and the search for perfection do make football boring to watch especially for the non fans...
what about the suspense it creates, that few secs the game was stopped and referee goes up to consult the VAR keeping everyone else in suspense. Don't we enjoy that either?
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Jeffy1206(m): 10:39am On Jul 26, 2020
Manu and 5th position grin cheesy I'm sure they will vacate that 3rd for Chelsea and Leicester and go back to their normal position grin
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by zeestone99(m): 10:47am On Jul 26, 2020
paulolee:
have said it countless times...we enjoy football the more without VAR than now that its introducced because the regular stops and the search for perfection do make football boring to watch especially for the non fans...
we all know that LiVARpool and man.u were assited by var but am surprised seeing that wolves are one of the biggest losers to VAR..
am not surprised at city because i do tink that VAR maybe cursed by pep ex girlfriend because it never seems to favor city..
the biggest hit was that city vs Tottenham ucl knockout clash that pep was left heartbroken after his crazy celebration for that badly needed sterling goal, only for var to notice that aguero was a bit offside and the same var didnt see llorente handball goal....that's life...
***modified**
for liVARpool fans calling me a hater and saying VAR didnt assist them to win the league with such a wide margin..
here is my point, that wide margin is as a result of the nov fixture dt city lost to Anfield after VAR denied them a penalty in the 5th minute on a clear handball on Arnold and 5sec leta fabinho scored dt cracker..
city were broken and didnt see themselves catching up with that 8 points lead because of the that bias VAR in anfield..
Livarpool may still endup winning the league because they were more determined than city but i dont think it would be this easy with such a wide margin.. my opinion

Why do you say handball by Arnold. The ball hit the hand of a city player 1st and changed the direction the ball before hitting Arnold. Why are you guys blind to see that. Is it hatred that's clouding your vision.

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Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Tflex01: 10:51am On Jul 26, 2020
Minemrys:

fvck ur opini0n. A handball that had the ball bouncing off david silva's arm to Trent alexander's arm in the liverp0ol penalty box. Guy. No vex me oh. If city weren't favored by var, how many penalties have they been awarded? How many have liverpool been denied? U w0n't see the armpit offside against firmin0 at villa park or the goal that was cancelled by var against united at anfield fr0m an imagined foul on de gea or the foul on origi at old trafford that var ruled against. African expert. Get ur facts straight.

Lol... The guy is one nuisance trying to analyze football.

I'm sure he didn't watch 10 Liverpool matches this season.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by ntyce(m): 10:52am On Jul 26, 2020
Thank God Arsene Wenger is now in charge of VAR...
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Pharaohny: 10:55am On Jul 26, 2020
Balenciagaokey:
grin grin grin

Manchester United suppose dey relegation, when they check premier league table without penalties.

Up Liverpool.
Champions



God bless you for this
Don't mind them haters plenty but naa that hatred go frustrate and kill them

Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by EtteP(m): 11:03am On Jul 26, 2020
Up liverpool

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Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:03am On Jul 26, 2020
Angelfrost:
Dear Nigerian and African EPL fans... Give it a rest already!!! VAR is a foregone conclusion! It has come to stay!

VAR, with all its inconsistencies, is still far better than relying on human referee bias.

This is a teething phase. Such complaints are quite commonplace... By next season, a lot of these issues would have been straightened out.

Bottom line, every team has got to work hard and apprise themselves of the rules of the game... Let the beautiful game be fair to all!!!

VAR does not stop human bias when the referee decides to make wrong calls to favour another. Just as the Bruno Fernandes case.

After going to VAR, this was a penalty in favor of Manchester United.

Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:13am On Jul 26, 2020
zeestone99:


Why do you say handball by Arnold. The ball hit the hand of a city player 1st and changed the direction the ball before hitting Arnold. Why are you guys blind to see that. Is it hatred that's clouding your vision.

It was a clear penalty and if the officials wanted to overlook it, they shojld have cancelled fabinho's goal because Arnold's handball led to a goal.

The var officials were bias and clearly aiding Liverpool all season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRyBGuJHzjs
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Angelfrost(m): 11:15am On Jul 26, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


VAR does not stop human bias when the referee decides to make wrong calls to favour another. Just as the Bruno Fernandes case.

After going to VAR, this was a penalty jn favor of Manchester United.

I have analyzed that with a professional pundit... That goes two ways sir.

It is actually a penalty cos a goal scoring or tactical move within the box was interfered with by the defending player. However, it is a soft one cos in the process, the attacking player equally stepped on the foot of the defender, but it can be read that Bruno was all about scoring.

In all, it shouldn't have been given as a penalty. These things will improve as time goes on.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:16am On Jul 26, 2020
Minemrys:

fvck ur opini0n. A handball that had the ball bouncing off david silva's arm to Trent alexander's arm in the liverp0ol penalty box. Guy. No vex me oh. If city weren't favored by var, how many penalties have they been awarded? How many have liverpool been denied? U w0n't see the armpit offside against firmin0 at villa park or the goal that was cancelled by var against united at anfield fr0m an imagined foul on de gea or the foul on origi at old trafford that var ruled against. African expert. Get ur facts straight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRyBGuJHzjs
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Angelfrost(m): 11:19am On Jul 26, 2020
Pharaohny:



God bless you for this
Don't mind them haters plenty but naa that hatred go frustrate and kill them

What part are you thanking him for exactly??! The congrats to Liverpool (Well deserved Champions), or the part where he said United should be in relegation (Seriously, how idiotic can one sound?)... grin grin grin

If United should be in relegation, then Spurs, Arsenal, Everton, etc, should be where??! League 2??! grin
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:19am On Jul 26, 2020
Angelfrost:


I have analyzed that with a professional pundit... That goes two ways sir.

It is actually a penalty cos a goal scoring or tactical move within the box was interfered with by the defending player. However, it is a soft one cos in the process, the attacking player equally stepped on the foot of the defender, but it can be read that Bruno was all about scoring.

In all, it shouldn't have been given as a penalty. These things will improve as time goes on.

The officials behind the cameras and the referee on the pitch knew it was not a penalty and gave it because of their premeditated plans. There is no way to coat it.

It only improves when the corrupt elements behind English football are dropped.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Angelfrost(m): 11:25am On Jul 26, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


The officials behind the cameras and the referee on the pitch knew it was not a penalty and gave it because of their premeditated plans. There is no way to coat it.

It only improves when the corrupt elements behind English football are dropped.

VAR doesn't have the final say in such calls or perceived errors... The central referee is supposed to review it with them using a Pitch side TV.

This is the right way, and exactly how it's done in Serie A, and La Liga.

VAR is simply meant to assist the referee in cases where he gets or makes the wrong calls... I believe these things will improve in EPL as time goes on.

Generally, VAR will make refereeing far better, and make the game fairer... You don't just kill a project within its infancy because of isolated discrepancies.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by zeestone99(m): 11:26am On Jul 26, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


It was a clear penalty and if the officials wanted to overlook it, they shojld have cancelled fabinho's goal because Arnold's handball led to a goal.

The var officials were bias and clearly aiding Liverpool all season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRyBGuJHzjs

I have just one question. Did it hit Silva's hand before Arnold?
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:28am On Jul 26, 2020
Angelfrost:


VAR doesn't have the final say in such calls or perceived errors... The central referee is supposed to review it with them using a Pitch side TV.

This is the right way, and exactly how it's done in Serie A, and La Liga.

VAR is simply meant to assist the referee in cases where he gets or makes the wrong calls... I believe these things will improve in EPL as time goes on.

Generally, VAR will make refereeing far better, and make the game fairer... You don't just kill a project within its infancy because of isolated discrepancies.

You think it is a mistake that all referees, (except one I remember in a particular game) chose not to go to the screens to make decisions? It was preplanned to maintain their rigging officiating.

The only good thing var has done is to prove how rigged the epl is. Even when they go to var, they clearly make bias calls. At least they can not blame error due to the speed of the game.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:29am On Jul 26, 2020
zeestone99:


I have just one question. Did it hit Silva's hand before Arnold?

The answer is in the first few minutes of the video. Watch and elucidate yourself on why the call of the referee was clearly biased in favour of Liverpool. Note, Crouch in the studio is a former Liverpool player.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Tamel(m): 11:30am On Jul 26, 2020
zeestone99:


Why do you say handball by Arnold. The ball hit the hand of a city player 1st and changed the direction the ball before hitting Arnold. Why are you guys blind to see that. Is it hatred that's clouding your vision.

Lol I'm always baffled when they miss that part , even analyst miss that part. The ball clearly hit Bernardo Silva's arm which made it change direction and hit Trent's arm. But they keep going it's a penalty , it's penalty . Always tryna take the shine from my dearest Liverpool in a match we totally bossed. grin . Liverpool have been better this season accept it .

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Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:33am On Jul 26, 2020
Tamel:


Lol I'm always baffled when they miss that part , even analyst miss that part. The ball clearly hit Bernardo Silva's arm which made it change direction and hit Trent's arm. But they keep going it's a penalty , it's penalty . Always tryna take the shine from my dearest Liverpool in match we totally bossed. grin . Liverpool have been better this season accept it .
Educate yourself on the debate. No one missed the ball bouncing off Bernardo's arm.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRyBGuJHzjs
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Tamel(m): 11:36am On Jul 26, 2020
TheGoodJoe:

Educate yourself on the debate. No one missed the ball bouncing off Bernardo's arm.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRyBGuJHzjs

So what have you been crying about all season? grin if you knew it hit Bernardo's arm as well.

You need the Education more.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Angelfrost(m): 11:37am On Jul 26, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


You think it is a mistake that all referees, (except one I remember in a particular game) chose not to go to the screens to make decisions? It was preplanned to maintain their rigging officiating.

The only good thing var has done is to prove how rigged the epl is. Even when they go to var, they clearly make bias calls. At least they can not blame error due to the speed of the game.

So, it's a start then... Things must get better from here. At least they all acknowledged some of these glaring errors like the Man United-Aston Villa game.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:40am On Jul 26, 2020
Tamel:


Lol I'm always baffled when they miss that part , even analyst miss that part. The ball clearly hit Bernardo Silva's arm which made it change direction and hit Trent's arm. But they keep going it's a penalty , it's penalty . Always tryna take the shine from my dearest Liverpool in match we totally bossed. grin . Liverpool have been better this season accept it .

Man City should have had a penalty for Trent Alexander-Arnold handball and the error illustrates VAR is not working

In my opinion it is exactly the sort of clear and obvious error that VAR was introduced to deal with, and City should have had a spot kick. The error was made particularly painful by the fact Liverpool had gone straight up the other end and scored, and so it is not hard to see why Guardiola was so irate.

I felt that Alexander-Arnold’s arm was away from his body, and his intervention prevented the ball from reaching a City player at the back post - making it a clear handball. In contrast, the penalty shout at the end against the same player was correctly not given because Alexander-Arnold’s arm was by his side and he had no time to react as it was hit straight at him from close range.

I have seen suggestions that because the ball hit Bernardo Silva’s hand before striking Alexander-Arnold the officials would not have been able to award City a penalty. Crucially, the Premier League insisted a spot kick was not awarded because Alexander-Arnold’s hand was not in an unnatural position, rather than because of Silva’s role in the incident. Taking them at face value I believe they have made the wrong call,



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/10/manchester-city-should-have-had-penalty-fortrent-alexander-arnold/amp/

Even if they say it was not a penalty, why allow fabinho's goal stand?
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:44am On Jul 26, 2020
Tamel:


So what have you been crying about all season? grin if you knew it hit Bernardo's arm as well.

You need the Education more.

The var officials clearly said the deflected ball to Trent's arn was not the reason thdy did not give a penalty but because Arnold's arm was not in an unnatural position which is a bloody lie.

In the rule, Bernardo made no move to gain advantage with his arm, so it was not in the picture.

That is why watching the video is important and proves var officials bias to help Liverpool.

If they didn't want to give a penalty but agree an obvious handball, why let the goal of fabinho stand?
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Tamel(m): 11:48am On Jul 26, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Man City should have had a penalty for Trent Alexander-Arnold handball and the error illustrates VAR is not working

In my opinion it is exactly the sort of clear and obvious error that VAR was introduced to deal with, and City should have had a spot kick. The error was made particularly painful by the fact Liverpool had gone straight up the other end and scored, and so it is not hard to see why Guardiola was so irate.

I felt that Alexander-Arnold’s arm was away from his body, and his intervention prevented the ball from reaching a City player at the back post - making it a clear handball. In contrast, the penalty shout at the end against the same player was correctly not given because Alexander-Arnold’s arm was by his side and he had no time to react as it was hit straight at him from close range.

I have seen suggestions that because the ball hit Bernardo Silva’s hand before striking Alexander-Arnold the officials would not have been able to award City a penalty. Crucially, the Premier League insisted a spot kick was not awarded because Alexander-Arnold’s hand was not in an unnatural position, rather than because of Silva’s role in the incident. Taking them at face value I believe they have made the wrong call,



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/10/manchester-city-should-have-had-penalty-fortrent-alexander-arnold/amp/

Even if they say it was not a penalty, why allow fabinho's goal stand?

That is exactly what baffles me with them analyst... So let's assume the ball didn't hit Trent's arm , and instead got to aguero right and he ends up sticking it in the back of the goalpost, would the goal have stood? Knowing clearly the ball hit Silva's arm and changed the direction of the ball.

I think the referee allowed the match to go on since he didn't see anything wrong and besides city had a good chance to clear their lines before the Fabinho goal.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by mrLhanray(m): 11:52am On Jul 26, 2020
paulolee:
have said it countless times...we enjoy football the more without VAR than now that its introducced because the regular stops and the search for perfection do make football boring to watch especially for the non fans...
we all know that LiVARpool and man.u were assited by var but am surprised seeing that wolves are one of the biggest losers to VAR..
am not surprised at city because i do tink that VAR maybe cursed by pep ex girlfriend because it never seems to favor city..
the biggest hit was that city vs Tottenham ucl knockout clash that pep was left heartbroken after his crazy celebration for that badly needed sterling goal, only for var to notice that aguero was a bit offside and the same var didnt see llorente handball goal....that's life...
***modified**
for liVARpool fans calling me a hater and saying VAR didnt assist them to win the league with such a wide margin..
here is my point, that wide margin is as a result of the nov fixture dt city lost to Anfield after VAR denied them a penalty in the 5th minute on a clear handball on Arnold and 5sec leta fabinho scored dt cracker..
city were broken and didnt see themselves catching up with that 8 points lead because of the that bias VAR in anfield..
Livarpool may still endup winning the league because they were more determined than city but i dont think it would be this easy with such a wide margin.. my opinion

trash, Liverpool won the league on merit...
Lovren blocked the ball which deflected of City players arms, before meeting Arnold's arm in a natural position.
did you watch the match?
Var is Justice, City would not have won the FA cup couple of seasons ago, when they robbed Swansea with a clear offside goal and an unworthy penalty.
it's now VAR is biased
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:57am On Jul 26, 2020
Tamel:


That is exactly what baffles me with them analyst... So let's assume the ball didn't hit Trent's arm , and instead got to aguero right and he ends up sticking it in the back of the goalpost, would the goal have stood? Knowing clearly the ball hit Silva's arm and changed the direction of the ball.

I think the referee allowed the match to go on since he didn't see anything wrong and besides city had a good chance to clear their lines before the Fabinho goal.

The handball led to the goal. Why let Fabinho's goal stand? The EPL and Var said Bernardo's handball was not the reason for them not given the penalty. Within the rules, Bernardo did not do wrong.

If Arnold did not stop the ball, and Sterling scored, the goal would have stood if thdh went to var fairly.

Yet, Trent reached for the ball, the officials lied his hand was in a natural position.

The handball by Trent led to a goal by Fabinho. Should have been ruled out.

A clear case of the var officials working in favour of Liverpool.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by BabaIbo: 11:58am On Jul 26, 2020
paulolee:
have said it countless times...we enjoy football the more without VAR than now that its introducced because the regular stops and the search for perfection do make football boring to watch especially for the non fans...
we all know that LiVARpool and man.u were assited by var but am surprised seeing that wolves are one of the biggest losers to VAR..
am not surprised at city because i do tink that VAR maybe cursed by pep ex girlfriend because it never seems to favor city..
the biggest hit was that city vs Tottenham ucl knockout clash that pep was left heartbroken after his crazy celebration for that badly needed sterling goal, only for var to notice that aguero was a bit offside and the same var didnt see llorente handball goal....that's life...
***modified**
for liVARpool fans calling me a hater and saying VAR didnt assist them to win the league with such a wide margin..
here is my point, that wide margin is as a result of the nov fixture dt city lost to Anfield after VAR denied them a penalty in the 5th minute on a clear handball on Arnold and 5sec leta fabinho scored dt cracker..
city were broken and didnt see themselves catching up with that 8 points lead because of the that bias VAR in anfield..
Livarpool may still endup winning the league because they were more determined than city but i dont think it would be this easy with such a wide margin.. my opinion


Cry Liverpool a river biko.
That's the only point you saw or have, there was a season Liverpool led the 2nd team by a 7 points gap and still lost the league. What about the season Mane got a red for an offence that should have been a yellow card at most, that was the same or even worse offence another player committed but got yellow that same season or season after that, but you are here complaining of a season which Liverpool led by 8 points in November.
There was a foul by B. Silva before the ball touched Trent's hand, moreover it was the natural position for Trent's hand, the ball only touched his hand because of the bounce on B. Silva's hand ball.

Congratulate Liverpool and stop hating.

YNWA!

Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:59am On Jul 26, 2020
mrLhanray:


trash, Liverpool won the league on merit...
Lovren blocked the ball which deflected of City players arms, before meeting Arnold's arm in a natural position.
did you watch the match?
Var is Justice, City would not have won the FA cup couple of seasons ago, when they robbed Swansea with a clear offside goal and an unworthy penalty.
it's now VAR is biased

There was no vaf in the Swansea game. If not City would not get the advantage.

In Liverpool's case, there was far and used unfairly to favour Liverpool.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by BabaIbo: 12:02pm On Jul 26, 2020
mrLhanray:


trash, Liverpool won the league on merit...
Lovren blocked the ball which deflected of City players arms, before meeting Arnold's arm in a natural position.
did you watch the match?
Var is Justice, City would not have won the FA cup couple of seasons ago, when they robbed Swansea with a clear offside goal and an unworthy penalty.
it's now VAR is biased

Don't mind that guy, there has been some decisions VAR made that favored City and so on, but these ones are hear complaining that the match cost City the league, as if that is the only match City lost.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Slynation(m): 12:03pm On Jul 26, 2020
YoungLionken:
I don't know about others but,VAR is the best..

It shouldn't be limited to football only,it should be included as a machine for assessing government. For example, instead of questioning the of PMB and Jonathan's ministers through orals,pen and paper,VAR would go a long(better) way.

Gandollar comes to mind, the government should've known what to do to him,if not for corruption from nepotism ravaging the system.

We should not be surprised on the last day of judgement,as VAR would be simply used( to save time),by then, after seeing all the atrocities you committed while on earth, you won't bother to argue but to go where is truly due for you...
Lol... grin grin That VAR Angel Michael and Gabriel will use on that day will be very brutal... grin

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Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by BabaIbo: 12:05pm On Jul 26, 2020
[quote author=TheGoodJoe post=92122556]

There was no vaf in the Swansea game. If not City would not get the advantage.

In Liverpool's case, there was far and used unfairly to favour Liverpool. [/quote

Bad officiating is bad officiating, don't try to justify it.
Re: What The EPL Table Would Look Like Without VAR by Tamel(m): 12:06pm On Jul 26, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


The handball led to the goal. Why let Fabinho's goal stand? The EPL and Var said Bernardo's handball was not the reason for them not given the penalty. Within the rules, Bernardo did not do wrong.

If Arnold did not stop the ball, and Sterling scored, the goal would have stood if thdh went to var fairly.

Yet, Trent reached for the ball, the officials lied his hand was in a natural position.

The handball by Trent led to a goal by Fabinho. Should have been ruled out.

A clear case of the var officials working in favour of Liverpool.

Lol Bernardo's arm deflected the ball to aguero's path,so yea he did a lot wrong, the goal would have been chalked off if VAR was to take an unbiased look at it .
Take a look at mahrez fifth goal in city's 4-0 thrashing of Liverpool, chalked off for the same reason. Although I thought that was a bit soft and the goal should have stood Because it had little effect on the motion of the ball .

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