Wtf77:
To conclude with, I have proven the following:

1) Lagos belongs to Benin
2) macof, omoolofin, tao11 and their fellow Yoruba are a bunch of pathological liers seeking to rewrite history.



You have also seen that the yorubas like omoolofin are extremely bigoted and delusion with very visible traits of a psychopath.
Also I have read some of these précolonial books completely.

I will soon be proving an other key issue once and for all.

Gregyboy, Areafada, Samuk, Davidnazee.

Wtf77:
By this comment alone, I don't feel that responding you is even worth it. It is very clear by your own comments that you are delusional, ethnocentric and a psychopath.
Also it is clear you are a pathological liar.
Everybody reading this your comment can see this.
So you can only comfort your other ethnocentric and pathological lying Yoruba and play to the gallery for them ! Everybody else can completely see through you.

I see in you next cement that you are pretending to quite books which of course you did not post links to.
I guess you have perfected your art of telling lies, by quoting imaginary documents.

900winer:

Lagos does not belong to benin quote me anywhere my answer still remains thesame, like some state earlier Rui de Sequeira was the first European to visit Eko and he was the who named it Lago de Curamo which is already inhabitated by the Aworis before the Benin came in the 16th century, so where did you get the document that said Lagos was isolated?

Osagyefo98:



Case closed.

from the foregoing it once again established that Ikwerre are yorubas..



Lawani once said this..

macof:

Lmao OK. To answer your question..

One of the biggest streets, probably the biggest in Idumota quarters of Lagos is Ereko Street. There is also the Ọjà Ereko in Lagos.
Outside Lagos State, there is Ereko in Ijebu Ode and Ibafo

Please note that the term "Lagos" refers to
I. A state
II. A metropolitan city within the state that has kept expanding
III. A part of the city on the Island traditionally called Ereko.
All 3 are called Eko or Lagos

So when I say just "Lagos" I'm not talking about the state or modern metropolitan area.

See screenshot below of the districts within the initial boundary of the City in the 19th century before all this modern Lagos State expansion
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I can ask you same question.

If Èkó means Camp and was named by Bini, why are there no other places named by the Bini called Eko?
Don't forget that one of the European texts shared on this thread mentioned clearly that Bini do not call Lagos Eko but Kurame

lawani:
what I said was that the lingual francs of Benin was Yoruba and anybody coming from there would be Yoruba speaking originally like the ugbodu people in delta state who still speak a Yoruba dialect today.

Christistruth00:



https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portuguese-founded-lagos-but-did-not-discover-nigeria-diplomat/48420

Wtf77:


You the Yoruba whom I exposed as being a pathological liar. You are still talking ? And now you want to tell me who I am and what my traditions are ?
Wonders shall never cease !
There is something wrong in your brain.
It is you the Yoruba who keep attacking us Edo by claiming all sorts of nonsense.
And making up all sorts of lies.
When we reply with proof, you claim we are attacking Yoruba.
Laughable.

Wtf77:
Just to recap, here is the fake translation of macof coupled with foul language and all sorts of lies:



Here is the actual translation:

"Captain Horsley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow peace of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

Christistruth00:


In this video at 5.45 minutes the Oba of Lagos Akiolu uses his own mouth to say Bini are not the owners of Lagos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno

Wtf77:


1) it doesn't take rocket science to know that french schools are on summer hollydays. Hollydays, you might have heard of it, or perhaps not.

2) by "isolated", the document is only referring to the fact that that narrow piece of land which linked Lagos to its metropolis is occupied by ijo pirates and yebou. And as the document stated, that narrow piece of land linked Lagos to Lagos' metropolis (Benin) !
Basically the entire area is part of Benin except a narrow piece of Land.

3) I gave a dispassionate translation, no bias, just translating what is written, simple ! Contrary to you who made a fake translation and blatantly lied to suit your purpose. Also I didn't want to give any interpretations in order to let the reader get his own interpretation, but since you are hellbent on misleading people I have said it all here.

4) I also showed the précolonial maps which vindicate me and my interpretation and also vindicate the book which I quoted. The précolonial maps show the extent of Lagos and also show it to be part of Benin

You are just a liar and you know you are lying, your level of shameless lying is incredible, I had never witnessed this before.

5) there is nowhere in the document where Lagos is described as small or that the surrounding areas except a narrow piece of land linking Lagos to its metropolis is not part of Benin, the document actually states the opposite.

6) The actual translation of the text in full:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."



Some of the maps:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b846939

This following map was made between 1603 and 1612:
https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/64869/africae-tabula-nova-ortelius

Oba of Lagos about the relationship between Lagos and Benin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

Gregyboy, Areafada, Samuk, Davidnazee

lawani:
what I said was that the lingual francs of Benin was Yoruba and anybody coming from there would be Yoruba speaking originally like the ugbodu people in delta state who still speak a Yoruba dialect today.

Balogunodua:

Correct

That Edo boy funny sha Rui de Sequeira was the first European to visit Lagos in 1472 and it already has Aworis settlement and this Edo boy was posting a document he claimed date back to 17th century that Lagos was isolated, an isolated Island that belongs to Benin without settlement unless the writter mistook Aworis for Benin.

Wtf77:


1) even if it were from the Portuguese Embassy, it still wouldn't be a proof !
2) that is clearly a blog !
3) a proof would be a précolonial document, and you brought no such thing !

You are too retarded and mentally ill, enough !
Instead of proving your claims you guys keep running around looking for "authoritative figures" who tow your line !
In your minds if an authoritative figure says 2+2=5 then those whom are not in authority should believe it.
Talking to you guys make me feel like Gallileo in front of the inquisition trying to speak sense into a bunch of retarded and brainless people.

Wtf77:
All I have claimed has been substantiated.
When I quote a book, I caption the exact sentences which I am quoting and I post a link to the entire book so that it is open to everybody's scrutiny.
I have nothing to hide.
Compare this with what the pathological lying Yoruba on this forum are doing.
Look at this guy omoolofin supposedly quoting a book of which he posts no links to the books and no caption of the sentences. He hides the books and makes claims about the books.
This way, nobody can scrutinize the books, check the date of edition, or see if the books actually exist or if anything he says about the books is even real.

Yoruba, you guys need to stop being crooks.

Also macof and omoolofin or tao11, stop copying my expressions. Stop trying to fraudulently sound like me. You can't copy authenticity. I seek the truth and prove all I claim. You seek to pass a lie as truth while trying to look legitimate.

Wtf77:



Once again I have already dealt with this which you are talking about:



You yoruba on this forum do not listen to logics nor to common sense. You can't debate a thing which has already been proven or disproven. It is no longer open for debate. But you guys don't seem to comprehend this simple fact.
I am glad every reader will be able to see all that is here, the yorubas have managed to portray their newly made tribe in the worse light possible.
These behaviours will be studied one day.

Balogunodua:

What stupid logic are talking about? The Portuguese were the first to visit Lagos in 1472 and they met the Awori there and you came posting a document saying the Island was isolated in 17th century and you are telling me logic, ok so the Aworis must have chased the Benin and collected the land they already occupied at 14th century right the Portuguese must be lieing because they hate Benin ko? the likes of Robert smith must also be lieing right? you are joking

Moneywomen17:
trash trash trash e pain u well ur lies have been busted by urs truly repeatedly here and u are still grasping at straw I see and how is Benin more “logical” than oke-ora liargreg here is the account of the British governor again try not to cry too much ok

Balogunodua:
Wtf77 the funny guy

Robert Smith Kingdom of South book of the 16th century must come after the 18th century of your calender I still stand lagos don't belong to Benin. Quote me anywhere.

Christistruth00:


(The Awori Yoruba are the traditional Land owners of Lagos.)

In 1903 the British colonial Governor of Lagos (Sir William Macgregor) requested the Ooni travel to Lagos and rule among the Lagos Chiefs who was entitled to wear a beaded crown in Yorubaland.


Kingdoms of the Yoruba page 13.
By Robert Sydney Smith

Also Chief Oluwa Land case of 1921 which was won at the Privy Council in London which was the Supreme Court of the British Empire.

Lagos belongs to the Awori.


https://face2faceafrica.com/article/this-nigerian-chief-reclaimed-stolen-lagos-lands-from-the-british-in-1921-after-suing-them-in-london

Wtf77:

The book was published in 1976, and to you that is the 16th century ?
How old are you ?

Wtf77:

The book was published in 1976, and to you that is the 16th century ?
How old are you ?

Christistruth00:


Give up Wtf77 on this one you have been soundly beaten with evidence.

Even the Oba of Lagos interview. you were not brave enough to post all of it because the Oba clearly declared Lagos doesn't belong to Benin in it.

Even you own 1845 documents stated the Ijebu had taken over and the Benin had been pushed to an Isolated place at the tip of the Island.

Osagyefo98:



No doubt,on that...by deductions Ikwerres are Yorubas.

Etinosa1234:
I've seen a lot of Yorubas on this thread trying to distort history abt Lagos with claims upon claims and still not being able to back it up

Well I want to say mine... and I'm going to back with the proofs I have

First of all... I want to make it clear to both foes and friends that Lagos does not belong to the Benin. It belongs to the Awori. But even at that, it should be noted that Lagos was made a vassal of Benin kingdom for over 300 years i.e they were under Benin and were paying tributes.

Secondly I want to also say that the origin of the first Oba of Lagos is unknown therefore why it is disputed. Lagos claim that he was a isheri person while Benin claim he was a commander in the army..In as much as this is unknown, it should be duly noted that the monarchy of Lagos was started by the Benin

This is shown when the Olofin dynasty was deposed by the Benin and a new dynasty of Obas was started (This is the cause of Tao's frustration).
Also the naming of Eko is also being argued saying that it's not from Benin.The Yorubas claim it originally meant oko that is was a corrupted word..Eko in Benin means war camp..And given the situation by which Benin took Lagos.. there is a high chance that Eko was the one who named Lagos

Pic 1 is a book by Robert Smith titled "The Lagos Consulate"

Pic 2 is also a book by Robert Smith named "Kingdom of the South"

Pic 3 is a letter written by Oba Akitoye to the British Govt for help..where he stated that the Benin had the undisputed right to choose the new oba

Mentions without proof will not be replied
Mentions with books of Yoruba historians will also not be regarded
Thanks

cc lawani 900winer and all Yoruba folks

Christistruth00:


Since you have admitted to the following " Lagos does not belong to the Benin. It belongs to the Awori " there is nothing left to argue over.

As to being a vassal State of Benin , the Ga of Accra in Ghana , Dahomey and Ewe of Togo paid tribute to the Alaafin of Oyo.

Even Benin paid tribute to Oyo starting with Alaafin Oranmiyan.

Etinosa1234:


prove that Benin paid tributes to Oyo

like I did mine...

eyewitness reports

Christistruth00:





[s]
Go and ask the Oba of Benin if Benin didn't pay tribute to Alaafin Oranmiyan of Oyo and report the answer back here after.[/s]