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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:33am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Goel: Most people don't understand what Christianity really means, Mohandas Gandhi said after reading the Bible "I love Jesus but i hate Christians" WHY? Because 99% of those claiming Christians don't understand what Christianity truly stand for. Do you know that a Christian must not carry any weapons not to talk of aiming at a fellowman? Do you know that a Christian must not think of ruling over his fellowman? Do you know that a Christian must accept all humans as equal beings? Do you know that a Christian must always think of how to make peace with his neighbours? Well there are so many things most people don't know about Christianity, what they are calling Christianity today was a fabrication by a Roman Emperor who wants to use the power of Religion to conquer the world. Of course it was successful for centuries but when other nations discovered that the Romans only used the Catholic Church to destroy their security system things began changing and ever since then most people started seeing Christianity as a menace in their society! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by SIONKPO1(m): 11:23am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:You can't correct something by staying outside |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:45am On Aug 12, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: We are Jesus' true followers! We learn through his words, thoughts and actions. He made the move to correct the religionsists of his day by going to meet them in their synagogue where they often gathers. Well they threw him out and even wanted to kill him {Luke 4:29} later they conspired in his presence how they are going to away with him, this were the Organization of religionsists of Jesus' day! So we've learnt a lot from all these, that's why we adopted Jesus' style of correcting them by going to meet each of them in their homes! Whoever will listen will surely listen! Matthew 10:11-13 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:46am On Aug 12, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: Bros, which political government did Jesus Christ correct? Which government did Jesus Christ support? Please answer with your Bible |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:49am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Maximus69: Please sound it louder, my brother. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by SIONKPO1(m): 4:41pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Janosky:For you to get them(reach) you have to behave like them Mind you some of your JW colleagues are praying for God's intervention whereas they abstained from Election Laslas,over Doctrine is killing christians |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:29pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: I think that's what Jesus asked us to pray for! God's Kingdom to come! Matthew 6:10 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by SIONKPO1(m): 8:18pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:The earth is of the Lord and its fullness thereof We are created in God's image and image |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:23pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
SIONKPO1:Please can you explain what transpired between Jesus and Satan @ Luke 4:5-6 because Jesus himself confirmed that the one ruling the entire inhabited earth is Satan the Devil! John 14:30 compare to 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:26pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
Their hearts are deceived-like you-maybe one day-the truth will be revealed: and everything you believed the Watchtower is-was-maybe one day you will know it was all just a lie.. And everything you are taught-everything you believed to be true-would make you vomit.. Maximus69:From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.. Christianity is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. Its adherents, known as Christians, believe that Jesus is the Christ, whose coming as the messiah was prophesied in the Hebrew Bible, called the Old Testament in Christianity, and chronicled in the New Testament.- Does not the Jw's claim to be Christian-or is this just a lie-and you thought it's time to reveal their hidden agenda.. That they are not Christians-but a cult deceiving and being deceived buy the Watchtower.. . Maximus69: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 3:44pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
brocab: I've told you several times without number, that it is OK, your God differs from mine so we can never agree on anything. Thanks for your time! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 9:38pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
But still you haven't answered the question-the Watchtower call themselves Christians-so how do you sit with them calling yourself a JW-and you hate them at the same time.. I suppose once a Muslim always a Muslim. Muslim's are known to hate all Christians.. So I suppose this will never leave you-it doesn't matter what side of the fence you may say you are on-you will always be a Muslim practicing the same faith against the Christians.. Maximus69: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 10:10pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
brocab: Thank you,Brocab for the BOLDED. "Christianity is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus" The Christianity of Jesus Christ is a monotheistic religion ... That is, ZERO Connection to the Triune pagan IDOLS WORSHIPPED by brocab and his friends- Triune (3) pagan IDOLS WORSHIPPERS and devotees branded as Christendom. Brocab's Evidence done DISGRACE him Triune pagan IDOLS. Him PROOF Trinity is not monotheistic. Isaiah 43:10-12, Acts3:13. 1 Cor3:23 , would Brocab allow his brain CONFESS the Bible truth that Jesus Christ is Jehovah's Servant? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:53pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
brocab: It's OK! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Goel: 5:44am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Maximus69:I don't need fear of God to live with ethics. The bad elements in Christianity and Islam are there because they are codified by Bible & Quran. There are many things to look at, no matter if Christians & Muslims do conversions violently or peacefully. Spreading beliefs and destroying scientific tempers of society is always wrong. And hence, they are often made fun of when their teachings are sometimes found scientifically incorrect. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:16am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Goel: I hear you Sir! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 8:46am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Goel: I don't dispute this, and am actually quite familiar with the history of India both modern and recent, from timur the Mongol to Akbar the great and to the last mughal emperor and the princely states plus all the issues with Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. So I know what religious differences and intolerance has caused. So we were also very discreet in doing it and not rubbing it in people faces, if you know the way we do preaching in other countries compared to the way it is done in India, you would know it is done discreetly, but am not saying people are not aware, am saying we respect their sensitivity and adjust to it |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 9:00am On Aug 14, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: No the issue most people have with us is that we come to their house and tell them things that are totally different from what their parents and pastors have been telling them for decades. In fact we are told to consider others to be superior to us. Philipians 2:3 Do nothing out of contentiousness+ or out of egotism,+ but with humility* consider others superior to you,+ 4 as you look out not only for your own interests,+ but also for the interests of others. Am sure many pastors don't teach people this, because they all want people to feel they are super and better and greater than the greatest. We believe we are sinners and have to make sure we endure to the end to be saved, many pastors teach that they are not sinners and are already saved. Many things many pastors condemn as sin such as alcohol, trousers for women, using jewelry etc, we don't condemn, so how is it that we are the ones with a holier than thou attitude? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 10:24am On Aug 14, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: We actually have no intention of correcting CAN...it's a voluntary organisation. Our aim is to preach to individuals of all beliefs and creeds. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by SIONKPO1(m): 11:42am On Aug 14, 2020 |
rabzy:I Love the zeal JW have but their doctrine is way too rigid *Blood Transfusion *Marriage(JW are not allowed to marry someone from other denomination |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:28pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
SIONKPO1:The Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes and other Jewish religionists all love Jesus, the problem they have with him is he doesn't compromise the standard he teaches as a teacher {Matthew 7:28-29} unlike other religious teachers of his time that always feel it's until when God comes that you can ascertain the right standard, Jesus tells everyone point blank "this is the standard that God will use to judge, in fact i'm the one God has appointed to judge the world" John 3:16-18 compare to John 14:6 and Luke 19:27 So think of what to expect from the group this same person is directing in the endtime, of course people will say "they're too rigid" others will say "they're Cultists", all simply because they refused to compromise the standard they know is from God! Matthew 10:22-25 *Blood TransfusionThe Creator knows best when talking about the makeup of our body system, he said "make sure you don't eat (take in) the blood for any reason whatsoever, because the secret regarding the formation of each creature is in it's blood" Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 17:14 So after the first century Christians have prayed fervently to God over what should be observed as laws in Christianity, the Apostles of Christ and the Holy Spirit came to a conclusion that Christians must not eat (take in) blood, in fact they added that this principles is vital regarding the sound health of mankind! Act 15:29 Today mankind is experiencing all sort of deadly diseases and it's fast increasing instead of finding solution it's becoming rampant and the so called Scientists are totally confused now. Jehovah's Witnesses believe (trust) in God's word so we find alternatives instead of taking in blood. And so far so good we're getting treatments that has nothing to do with the intake of blood. *Marriage(JW are not allowed to marry someone from other denominationThis is the culture of God's people right from inception! Jehovah's worshipers don't marry people who are not worshipers of their God {Genesis 24:2-3; Deuteronomy 7:3} So the first century Christians adopted the same tradition by marrying only within their circle! 1Corinthians 7:39 compare to 2Corinthians 6:14 This is right because it makes things easier when two persons who already have the same line of thought on issues to cope as a couple than people having totally contradicting opinions! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by SIONKPO1(m): 2:30pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Maximus69:Solomon married outside his tribes and I believe anything that has to do with marriage should be based on Love and not doctrine |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:40pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: God's standard ~ Deuteronomy 7:3, 17:17 Solomon's standard ~ 1Kings 11:1 The result of Solomon's standard~ 1Kings 11:4 We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we make sure of all things and we cling unto what is good! 1Thessalonians 5:21 compare to Philippians 4:8 God bless you! 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by SIONKPO1(m): 2:54pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Maximus69:God's standard? Do you people offer burnt sacrifices? What an saying is over-doctrine is affecting Christianity of today(JW and others) |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 3:06pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: Burnt offering means giving something to God completely, of course we practice burnt offering in the Christian congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses today! But you only need to know what burnt offering means (spiritually speaking) in order to offer it acceptably the Christian way! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 4:34pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: Very wrong example...lololol..he is even a perfect example for not marrying someone who don't share your beliefs 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 4:38pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: When the Israelites married people from other nations, their children could not speak the Hebrew tongue and could not worship God in the right way. Nehemiah asked them to send their unbelieving wives and children away...the families were totally broken up...do you know the amount of hurt and hardship that would cause? It was a hard decision but for true worship to be preserved, Nehemiah had to enforce it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:28pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
rabzy: When JWs tell them what we believe, they just feel it's like how their Pastors twist their thinking to make money from them. Until when they sit one on one with a witness that's when they'll start saying "JWs thinks they know all" "JWs practice the holier than thou stuff" "JWs judge other people" and so on. Instead of listening to learn! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:45pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
fake wealthy pastor johnw47 can not contribute anything again,he has crawled back into his shell.Wicked night crawler |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:27pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Zzor: Hi Zzor! GRIMMJOE is OK! His back on Nairaland, it's like i should start breakdancing! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:30pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Maximus69:oh really? that's good to know.lol 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:14pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Zzor: tormented lie lie rozz whenever you post to me, it's to post lies, and like false jw's you not only lie, but post the same much repeated and nonsenseical lies over and over again, such a duh unintelligent one you are you cannot stop lying just like your father the devil: Joh 8:44 You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. poor hateful fatty |
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